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Nah, it's not bout stats. It's about everything is out of 5, 2/5 chance haunted ground 1/5 ruin to spawn in x place. 20% chance vs 40% chance, 20% is still big. Run thrill of the hunt with mother daughter ring and flute for pulls maybe?DeadByFlashlight said:@Milo said:
For now i wouldn't advise running Haunting Grounds. Atleast on Spirit. People will expect itSurvivors are able to distinguish between ruin totem and bait totems for some reason. In more than half of my games they destroy ruin first, statistically this should be impossible
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So rancor is subpar in aura reading, might as well run noed.Dabrownman1812 said:
Rancor isnt bad, it gives a notification like a doctor shock. Not live aura feed like bitter murmor. And since obsession doesn't see you, less stealth plays can be made against the killer.ShooterKnight said:@thesuicidefox said:
BBQ, Rancor, Bitter Murmur, Ruin.BBQ/BM to find survivors. Ruin for early game to get a lead, and Rancor for endgame to deal with DS users. It's made easier to use too by BM.
why would u use birrer murmur when rancor is a better version of this perk, i have the same perk constellation but only with stridor instead of bitter murmur
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Rancor isnt bad, it gives a notification like a doctor shock. Not live aura feed like bitter murmor. And since obsession doesn't see you, less stealth plays can be made against the killer.ShooterKnight said:@thesuicidefox said:
BBQ, Rancor, Bitter Murmur, Ruin.BBQ/BM to find survivors. Ruin for early game to get a lead, and Rancor for endgame to deal with DS users. It's made easier to use too by BM.
why would u use birrer murmur when rancor is a better version of this perk, i have the same perk constellation but only with stridor instead of bitter murmur
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Uh, he kept crawling to me. Another one goes to the entity.
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Idk bout 4k if they aren't in comms. Hatch is quite regular.JoannaVO said:@DeadByFlashlight said:
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I think, if you play her right with some of her perks, she currently already is a viable killer. She just requires practicing in mindgaming.I dont think so, especially when it comes to coordination via voice comms
But there is no other killer but nurse who can go up against organized SWF on comms. Let's just take a solo survivor queueing theme that gets in the game and does not know who the killer is yet. Then you would have a good chance of getting a 4k with the Spirit.
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Sounds aren't bad, was spooky when she just had the ethereal voices. Her voice now is fine. Peeps are just used to the ptb version.Morteth said:The way she babbles WAH WAH HAH HAAAH! all the time in the menu screen is so so so annoying
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Up to you, then you get teabaggedZFennecFox said:I wanted to ask what your rules are for your matches mine are.
1. Ten second rule on all unhooks, wait 10 seconds then hunt.
2. Never become focused on 1 target.
3. Two people dead and 4 generators I give them two generators before I hunt again.
3. Last random survivor I give them the win, unless their being a toxic little ball of sunshine then I give the gift of the Mori.
To me though the game seems more like a hunt instead of trying to kill 4 people as quickly as I can.
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Killers have a really big attack cone in front of them and visually that plus latency is annoying, also gives the hillbilly those hits since he chainsaws the air next to me.jacowwow said:Survivor is more frustrating than ever. 90 percent of the time I get hit after pallet stunning a killing, a killer teleporting to me when i throw a pallet on him, getting hit when Im already on the other side of a window or im falling out of a tractor and though the killers in the tractor and im close to the floor i get hit, or I get hit when Im behind the killer, when they arent facing me, they backup while swinging and still have time mid-swing to step forward so they smack a huge area and i go down after they took the steps forward at the end of the swing. Why are these swings so long? Wouldnt they have lost momentum? how powerful can a hit be when Im on the other side of a window? Why is the killer able to hit me when facing a different direction? These new pallets are not doing what pallets were meant to do and there are alot fewer so there is littke dependabke defense. Just alot of downs that shouldnt have happened. -
You're ok in my book guy. You're invited to the cookoutpowerbats said:@Dabrownman1812 On DS I totally agree and refuse to run it, I think it's fine to use when you're just learning the game and for the Adept which is a pain to get with her. But by say rank 10ish you shouldn't be running it anymore unless you're trying to be the bait for teh killer then it's understandable.
I also don't run SB on any character unless I've got nothing better to use other than their tier I or II base perks which some are meh.
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Yeh, I love the stuff but the clown ptb was better
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Rip guypowerbats said:@Dabrownman1812 said:
All depends on killer, rank, map, survivor perks.
True to an extent, during the summer event I'd never ever camped but had a Sabo jake when I was on huntress who I don't play much doing daily. He kept trying to sabo my event hooks with me on other side of the wall on Macmillan Estates.
I kept chasing him and losing him among walls P3 and the area was perfect for him but I finally downed him and camped his arse. I let everyone else farm because event hooks are a no no and I didn't go after him doing my regular hooks.
This David kept trying to rescue him and eventually the jerk kept going back to my same event hook even after being rescued and me going after the David. So at that point I hard camped him and after he got unhooked again I went after both and the Jake rage quit when he got downed a 3rd time.
The other survivors didn't know the Jake was doing that till I told them and they agreed with what I'd been doing and thought it was pretty jerkish of him.
For me personally I'll never try and sabo an event hook and as killer if you're saboing non event hooks i'll generally let it go unless you do it right in front of me. Then of course honor and practicality demand I go after you and try and hook you.
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Midchapter buffs confirmed, the 20 second charge time isn't worth 5 seconds so add on reliant. The white noise is too loud too.Bravo0413 said:If they want her to depend on her power which is what huntress, hag and nurse do she needs access to her power... she needs a much shorter cooldown and movement while charging even if it's a reduced speed.. even if she were able to see survivors while phasing she doesn't have enough time in phase to make any true difference imo.. that's another thing she needs more time phase walking -
Stridor is amazing, scratch marks a concern run predator. If you want to close the gap run bloody hair brooch for quick dashes and yakeyoke amulet the purple add on or dirty uwabakis to catch up. Yakeyoke amulet and uwabaki will get you around fast. Monitor and abuse is good on her, try using short bursts of phase walks to close a bit but doing this can best be done with bloody hair brooch. Father's glasses, amulet, sloppy butcher is a big help.
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All depends on killer, rank, map, survivor perks.powerbats said:@MegaWaffle said:
@Jack11803 said:
@Dabrownman1812 said:
Also, survivors won't help you get points, destroy the survivorsIsn’t every single thing killers get points from directly from or caused by a survivor?
That still doesn't mean they helped you get points. I can't tell you how many times I've chosen to let 1 or 2 survivors go simply because the game ended quickly due to DCing or survivor stupidity. Yet I could count the amount of times on one hand that a survivor had that same mercy for me and let me get a kill in a match where I got destroyed.
Play as you want be it merciful or brutal that is your own choice.
I've let myself get sac'd if I've done well and the killer got destroyed because I know how that feels and I try and play honorably so to speak. Something that seems to be anathema to many on here and in game as well.
I almost always let the last person get the hatch as a killer if they didn't teabag non stop and they aren't just afking in the entire match. I can't count how many times I've been told great killer etc for actually trying to let everyone have a good game.
On games where I've 3 or 4k'd I usually get a gg or something along those lines because I go for the unhooker not the freshly unhooked person. They're wounded and will be easy prey later plus that means 2 not on gens.
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Nah, it's just that so many people call them crutch. The only true crutch perk is d strike, very low risk high reward. Everything else is more on your personal feelings rather than mechanics and impact. Self care is powerful as anything that eliminates a need for a medkit and is permanent is strong. Due to game time, gen repair time, 4v1, it isn't crutch for tracking since it is easy to be stealthy, survivors have perks and 3rd person view which gives them a mechanical advantage. Killers are at a steep mechanical disadvatage and all of the snti stealth perks can be countered, but survivors can't be fully countered. Even with nurse, survivors can be diligent due to being in 3rd person. When discussing crutches, or something op or not, the advantages it gives has to be compared in order to gauge what it is.powerbats said:@Dabrownman1812 said:
This guy doesn't get the balancing, bbq crutch? Oh man.
Way to completely blow off what I said and try a Straw Man there.
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There's some ways that dead hard never fails, dh to a pallet is safe and bait proof always.
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This guy doesn't get the balancing, bbq crutch? Oh man.powerbats said:@Orion said:
I don't run Self Care, nor do I want it. I'd rather avoid a chase than need a crutch like that.I'm the same but BBQ, Whispers, Spies and some other things make it more difficult to play completely stealthy. Throw in Doctor who you still stand up and scream with Calm Spirit III (Doctor match at Rank 1 this am).
Then throw in the teammates that bring a killer to you either by accident or on purpose or the killer just magically comes to your location. (This despite the fact there's not a gen anywhere close to you and the gens are all blowing up on other side of map.
Take out Franklins Demise and killers lobby dodging the moment they see more than 1 or 2 medkits I'll stop running SC. I also tend to play mostly solo q but do play swf occasionally. But if I stop running SC then I bring something else and then some killers will complain about that.
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I don't run it, makes game too easy. I wanna be challenged
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I use windows because it's not about memorizing as pallets dont consistently spawn in the same spots, but also to know ahead of time if another player used the pallet. Going to where tou think a pallet is but ending up used gets many people down as I play killer I see people rush to that spot going out of their way to reach a pallet that isnt there. Windows is good tech.Eveline said:Thanks. Yeah, I always cringe when there is one or two gens left but everyone rushes to save me while I'm being camped by insiduous myers from the start. -
But they aren't the best killers
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Depends, pigs get looped so not without weakness. But other killers cant delay the game. Doc and freddy maybe.PigMainBigBrain said:@Dabrownman1812 said:
Stridor? Didn't try that on her yet, will try itStridor feels better than scratch marks to be 100% honest. The scratch marks are unreliable, and flawed, you can easily see them without the perk and it doesn't make them significantly easier to find. So its worth it to skip it and take stridor to find people that are bleeding for that second hit.
NoED is nice but doesn't actually work that great on her because she's slow as hell and her power takes forever to recharge so, good luck downing more than 1 before they hunt down the totem.
Whispers is nice on her cause again....she's slow as hell, so having to take time out to actually find people on her wastes way more time than other normal killers.
Her biggest problem is the same problem as all other normal killers, shes not pig....so she has 0 gen control. And near 0 gen pressure without some perk gimmick. So.... you're likely better off never taking off ruin+haunted ground as a base function, and you're likely going to have to pick up ranchor as your base tracking perk cause its the only one that functions while using haunt of any significance, and maybe pick up whispers or stridor based on preference obviously whispers speeding up your initial start of the fight.
And if you don't have ruin....well....you're stuck running some other sub optimal gen control perk to make up for the fact that normal killers are rushed....and rushed hard and fast. That gen rushing ######### is gonna be the death of this game I swear to god, I don't know how non pig, players deal with that #########.....
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Killed by light she is, I get blinded insanely quick. Reminds me of og instablinds. Ask if she gets blinded instead of why isn't she getting blinded lol.Dabrownman1812 said:
Bug, she's blinded damn there instantly but no blind scoring event pops up for the survivor. Yes, you blind at pallets too.kingreaps said:
Idk it might just be me then bc every spirit I vs it's just impossible for me to get a savexxaggieboyxx said:You can flashlight save people I have done it. Pallets however you can't blind I have noticed it as killer and survivor. She looks down so much when she breaks it the beam isn't hitting her eyes. Idk if it's a bug or intended. I hope it's intended because she already has some trouble chasing survivors and flashlight blinds don't help -
Bug, she's blinded damn there instantly but no blind scoring event pops up for the survivor. Yes, you blind at pallets too.kingreaps said:
Idk it might just be me then bc every spirit I vs it's just impossible for me to get a savexxaggieboyxx said:You can flashlight save people I have done it. Pallets however you can't blind I have noticed it as killer and survivor. She looks down so much when she breaks it the beam isn't hitting her eyes. Idk if it's a bug or intended. I hope it's intended because she already has some trouble chasing survivors and flashlight blinds don't help -
Yes but in terms of the double bp, many survivors still gen rush avoid boldness points and leave. Kill survivors without letting them do gens, and go get your points.Jack11803 said:@Dabrownman1812 said:
Also, survivors won't help you get points, destroy the survivorsIsn’t every single thing killers get points from directly from or caused by a survivor?
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With bloody brooch she can dash hit for the second strike for an ez down, check it outyeet said:and now that she's out of the PTB she has nothing
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Also, survivors won't help you get points, destroy the survivors
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There's an instablind thing that happens to the spirit, idk what you mean by being unable to be blinded. Have you played the spirit?kingreaps said:The spirit needs a fix bc she is unable to be blinded by flash lights for saves and at palletes -
The same affect minus one isn't good, seeing gen auras isnt bad, more original, stays true to gen aura reading. Might as well run bitter or rancor if it's rancor minus an effect.alivebydeadight said:This perk really does need a rework, it could be good, the concept is good but, its so bad, but your idea isn't that good idea it should be like a watered down rancor, every generator completed reveals survivors for a short time is a good rework for that perk
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Don't talk bout kate like that! Kate nooooo! LolChesterTheMolester said:
Since most survivors already know most pallets and windows you can have the whole cooldown removed and it'd still be #########.Dabrownman1812 said:While we're at it, buff windows of opportunity. Cooldown should be just 20 seconds or so. I haven't used premonition in a long time. -
Easier to avoid the killer in third person. If killer was third person the spirit would have insane mindgames. But in first person you are the killer, it's more intimate so interesting stuff to consider.Peasant said:What I want to see is a test match in which the killer is locked in the third person while the survivors are locked in first person.
I am all for the option to play in the first person as a survivor; as part of the reason killers aren't scary is due to the fact that we fail to accurately see them. Granted we can see the proportional size differences between killer and survivor in the third person but it's not the same. What's better:
Seeing Leatherface walk towards you with the saw raised right as you pop a generator, or . . .
. . . As the clatter of pistons reaches its climax a blinding light, a beacon, fills the night sky. But your hope and peace turn to dread when just to your left the hulking figure of a man comes out of the shadows. In what seems like seconds its muscled arms block out the full moon with a chainsaw whose revving engine drowns out all other noise. Your screams fall silent to the engine's roar as the beast lurches forward cutting your body and splitting your mind with raw agony.
Personally, I'm all for 1st person survivor. After all, I think there's a reason I don't see too many other horror games where the victim is in the 3rd person for a reason.
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While we're at it, buff windows of opportunity. Cooldown should be just 20 seconds or so. I haven't used premonition in a long time.
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Killers are harder in general, you don't have other player's help.
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I do believe that her white noise is too loud, hearing that over a gen almost done means she couldn't sneak on me. She came up to the gen and looked around, also spine chill works on her while she is phase walking so rip.
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She sparkles on and off I believe as mid chase a spirit sparkled to me without being still.Raven_Mercer said:I have noticed that the Spirit's husk will static and sparkle when she is phasing in the spirit world. I believe that this is extremely weakening to her potential as a killer. The Spirit seems like a good mind game killer, at least in theory, able to fake her phase and lure survivors into coming near her. She could, for example, stop moving at a pallet and trick the survivor into vaulting over it, thinking she is phasing. However, since her husk statics, it gives away her plan and any mind game potential is gone. The addition of the static greatly takes away from her strength as both a jump scare killer and a mind game killer, and when combines with the fact that grass will move from her, crows will fly away, and she cant see the survivors (which I do think is fair, just listing it) and she cant read aura in the spirit realm, it stacks up against her far too much.
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Lower recharge time, others idkLarcz said:
Wait i miss somthing? What bufs what kind?ShooterKnight said:with the little buffs that are coming in midchapter shes gonna be in the perfect spot, probably high mid tier.
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The huntress post spam, jesus they already said they are looking into it, addressed it on the stream lol
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Before raised, you could heads behind gens and clip people through wallsAStupidMonkeyy said:@Swiftblade131 said:
As long as I can throw over [BAD WORD] cars and pallets without hitting some poorly designed invisible hitbox then its fine!I agree. Raise the head hitbox so we can at least hit over dropped pallets without hitting the pallets by accident and so we can hit them slightly over constructs without them Urban Evasioning behind it and hitting the constructs instead. Otherwise, love it!
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Waiting over ten seconds by a hook is, That's someone not doing gens
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10% of games a week should do it, if I quit 7 games but played 40 a week, way below 80 but still scummy
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Yeh but if it's hard to slug multiple people killer will start hookingChi said:Even among the best survivors, not getting downed is not always viable.
I am not a good survivor btw, I am a decent one. -
Once again, this is stopped by good survivors. Survivors should be recovering asap, time is against killers when you take math and mechanics into play, about 80 seconds per gen if one person is on it, gotta consider that. If a killer goes into a long chase, he will probably have to hook, once someone gets hurt and another is on thr ground, on of the two healthy should try for a save. Coordination beats slugging, you don't need to be swf to handle slugs.pemberley said:
I wasn’t using ds. I was just trying to play the game. And the Spirit would camp downed bodies at a distance only to not only knock them back down, but get their rescuer too.Zarathos said:Here a quick fix to limit being slugged. Do not use ds. If you do and we killers know you have it we will slug your ass. At one point i ran knock out primarily only to deal with these kinds of people making sure you stayed on the floor. Whilst I'd hook and pick up the rest of the survivours. Nowadays i slug but bring rancour to properly punish people who use that perk.
Something of note a killer will often switch up their tactics if the game isn't going well. So if as a team you finish 3 gens and no ones dead expect the killer to start slugging/tunneling or camping to try and eliminate a player. This is mostly because it very easy to lose a game hard if all 4 survivours are still up.
I agree that slugging is fine and fair game IF the killer plans to hook, but being forced to eat dirt a good portion of the match is boring and worse than camping. At least you can use camping to your advantage, even if it hurts you personally: stick around and buy time for your teammates or bleed out fast and move on. I never intentionally dc because dcing just ruins the fun for everyone and it’s usually a result of being a brat who can’t handle being down. So permaslugging is unfair and unkind. -
Level 1s are supposed to be bad, only compare tier 3sUncannyLuck said:The problem with it right now is it's a net negative unless you get 5 healing checks, which means it'll usually be a detriment to your team.
1st check: -25% (-25% of a bar healed overall)
2nd check: -10% (-35% of a bar healed overall)
3rd check: +5% (-30% of a bar healed overall)
4th check: +20% (-10% of a bar healed overall)
5th check: +35% (+25% of a bar healed overall)This makes the level 1 version of the perk really bad, as it takes 8 healing skill checks total for it to not be a net negative. It should probably either be re-worked completely or the starting penalty shouldn't be as severe.
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Run stridor or predator. You do pretty good if you learn. Bloody hair brooch+dirty uwabakis/yakeyoke amulet/mother daughter ring gives you an easier to control psuedo blink.
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The only thing is you still get woosh soundMegaWaffle said:@Peasant said:
Personally, I just want a Wraith player to play a game with: Enduring, Brutal Strength, Fire Up, Spirit Fury, and Shadow Dance. Then record that nightmare.The best Wraith build is the ultra rare "No bell sound" add-on mixed with the new "ghost" add-on that gives 0 terror radius for 6 seconds after uncloak.
Every survivor interaction has been a pull off a generator for me while using this. He is the new jump-scare king. Sorry Myers but step aside.
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His name is scum-rrado, troll possiblythekiller490490 said:
My thoughts? This is the dumbest idea for dbd killers I've ever seen. When will it be enough for you survivors?scumrrado said:Most killers should not have a base speed over 100%. In what slasher movie was the killer naturally faster than the "survivors," without the use of supernatural abilities? Pretty much none.
Most slashers use stealth, strategic advantage (traps, location awareness), or supernatural abilities to confirm kills. Not base run speed. DBD should replicate this.
It feels like crap as a survivor to die to a killer because they're impossible to run away from. All the juking and stuns in the world can be caught up to. Maps are either way too open or way too closed. Scratch marks from running are too easy to follow, but how else do you get away? Being chased forever isn't scary. It's annoying.
On the flip side, it feels like crap to be stuck in a loop as a killer. Survivors shouldn't have to resort to stalling, ping, or bugs to get away. It should be rewarding as the killer to down a survivor, rather than easy. It should be terrifying to encounter the killer as a survivor, not damning.
Nerf killer base run speeds, remove loops, remove some more pallets, reduce terror radii, etc. Heck, even buff killer abilities. The point is, at the start of the match with zero perks, no killer should be able to outrun a survivor.
Thoughts, my killer mains?
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Maybe next time they will run the ptbs more efficiently and transparent like the clown ptb. They did great work with the chapter and getting it released on all consoles same day.WINTERS said:The things the devs are changing are exactly what a lot of players stated that she needed (of course not every change was mentioned) before release so no players would have to wait for the mid-chapter patch for something that the majority of players pleaded with the devs to change in the first place. I'm glad it's getting changed but still they could've had made the changes on the ptb so people could test that to see if it was OP or exactly what she needed. -
Nah, I know it's an idea, the name just is a troll name or a name a troll would use lol. Would be cool if the ultra rare was an essense of all the people that had their breaths taken.Twinkletits said:@Dabrownman1812 said:
I think people who don't play nurse call 5 blink nurse broken, you sound like a troll based on how you suggest but if you're serious then rip.Love how you keep calling me a troll lol. Also if you play nurse and you don't think 5 blinks are broken then uhm I don't think that's the add-ons at fault but whatever and also yeah guess what it's an "idea" a "suggestion" aka not something that's final which means it is subject to change so instead of calling me troll maybe come up with something more fun?
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I think people who don't play nurse call 5 blink nurse broken, you sound like a troll based on how you suggest but if you're serious then rip.
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That would be great, the 16 seconds is a joke, idk if devs thought it was broken but it's horrible, if that's your only perk running no perks is better.MegaWaffle said:@Dabrownman1812 said:
Surveillance just needs to have no time limit, the 16 seconds is bad. The skillcheck thing can be weird since everyone has skill check chance and skill check collideSomeone made a good point in regards to this perk. Have it have no time limit however to avoid the situation where you could potentially see every generator as white and get a sudo-BBQ effect make it have a range of X amount past your terror radius so that you won't instantly know where everyone is. If survivors were unfortunate enough to let 3 gens get to close by endgame then that's there own problem.
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Devs are aware and posts like these are just spam, there was unfair 1hko hatchet hits and now unfair misses, devs will find a middle ground which is needed with her ohko hatchets especially.jordirex said:Before talking about the ways to counter Huntress, I will argumment about the hitboxes used in an Esports game like Overwatch on which you can either see characters that are hitscan and other that use projectiles.
Hitscan means that where you shoot is where the "bullet" automatically goes, projectiles, as you can imagine, need some seconds to land on the objective.
Widowmaker is a hitscan sniper, this heroe shoots at hitboxes that are equal to the shape of the enemy character.
Hanzo is a slow/fast projectile héroe, depending on how much you charge your arrow, which uses hitboxes bigger than the shape of the character and does not need to reload. Both have the same rol on that game.Huntress is pretty much like Hanzo, you have 5 hatchets that you need to charge to shoot without crosshair at moving targets that are more difficult to hit depending on the distance and the survivor's ability to dodge them (which is not very difficult to adquire).
With the current crosshair Huntress is not viable. Mid range hatchets that are capital to be effective are now very easy to dodge, the survivor just needs to be looking behind. This killer is one of the more skilled required ones and now can be countered heavily by almost every new player even if the huntress is pretty good.Why Huntress doens't needed a nerf and actually needed a buff:
She has a directional distance Humming of 45 meters, that allows every survivor to get an alert if she is approaching to him. Huntress is a slow killer, so then if the survivor starts to run from her once she is pretty far away from him, the huntress would need to either try to shoot a mid range hatchet to hit the survivor which needs a lot of skill to be able to predict survivor's dodges at that distance (which most huntress are not allowed to do) or just get closer to be able to hit with success the survivor. Two situations on this escenario:
Situation 1:
The huntress has to get closer to be able to shoot the survivor at less than let's say 10 meters. but usually it's lower.
Since the chase starts before the actual chasing status begins the huntress doesn't charge bloodlust for the first maybe 10, 15, 20 seconds depending on the map, she loses a lot of time. Result, the huntress is countered and two gens are popped at least if she is able to actually down that survivor when she gets closer to him.Situation 2:
If we take in consideration the case on the huntress is very good and can hit with guarantees a mid range shoot, anyway she is going lose time to get closer to be able to have a clear view for the second hatchet and despite being skilled, in some maps, is just imposible to hit range hatchets because there are too many obstacles. So you are forced to procede as in situation 1. Survivors that are good dodgers complicate a lot this situation (in prepatch, now is not even considered).The current state of the hitbox completely disrupts situation 2, since mid range hatchets are now very easy to dodge, and the skill of the huntress is now not considered, just the capacity of the survivor to be able to look behind. It also complicates situation 1, since even if you get close it is pretty easy to miss hatchets, even if the survivor screw up at loops, or jumps at windows. Low charged hatchets are completely useless now, charged ones are still easy to Dodge.
And as you already may know, sometimes the hatchet even pass through the survivor's body without hitting.
In conclusion, she was a decent killer that had some flaws even in a case that the Huntress was skilled. Now she is pretty much not viable, not fun, she does not reward skill and hours put into her, because the success of the hatchets relay only if the survivor trys to Dodge them or not.In fact, most of the experienced part of the community was aware that huntress needed that humming distance to be reduced to at least 40 meters. After this nerf she is not viable anymore.
I'm a huntress main that has more than 1000 hours on her. I used to be effective, but anyway when survivors just took advantage of that humming distance and the map i was still very counterable. Now, Huntress is just awful. The hitboxes prepatch were the ones that a killer like Huntress with it's characteristics needed. Using only "the shape" of the survivor as the hitbox is an error, not balanced considering how she works.