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@N8dog said:
Is it any different than the ######### on hook to let the last person try other than one less credited kill?
Yes, it is different. If I hook you, you have a in game way to let them get hatch.
If I'm slugging you, you do not have a way to let them have hatch, besides dc'ing.
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@TAG said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2938940#Comment_2938940
How? Intentions are allowed to change, are they not?
Sure, intentions can change, but that doesn't mean the change at the cost of said intention is always good.
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@TAG said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2938932#Comment_2938932
One is a matter of "How do we develop a character that tastefully tackles the issue?"
The other is a matter of "How do we tastefully tackle the issue through an already established character?"
Assuming it actually is done tastefully in both cases, what shows a lack of effort in one but not the other?
Simply the fact one wasn't originally intended for it while the other (unknown but still probably) wasn't.
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@TAG said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2938770#Comment_2938770
Effort can be done to roughly equal amounts in both cases, can they not?
That can be debatable, so can't say too much on that...but ehh maybe
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Legion with 6 perks. That's a fun time.
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@Laurie268 said:
Don't slug the 3rd survivor for 4 mins and they won't dc. Besides you can't see the hatch anymore so it's all luck who finds it first
Idk a out that one, they'd do it after 30 seconds too.
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@sizzlingmario4 said:
If my teammate dcs to try and help me get hatch I won't take it even if I find it first. It's lame.
Too bad for the dc'd survivor and their loss of points then.
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@xBlitzAce1989x said:
I don't do anything if I'm the last Survivor. I usually have a key and I trail the Killer to hatch, let them close it, and then I escape after they walk away.
The dream strat 😞
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I'm not one to care for any romantic subplots. Straight or gay.
Pre existing like RE7 with Ethan and his wife? Okay.
A subplot you can develop during game that can also seem forced to give the character a romantic interest, like a game released a few months earlier? Unnecessary.
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I've been on there once and it was really open. Like the whole street and stuff is just open. I barely even went into the houses.
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@TAG said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2938744#Comment_2938744
Is that really a meaningful difference, provided that the quality of the added lore is roughly the same in both cases? If the goal is the same, the reasoning behind it is the same, and the end product is the same, how does the difference in execution matter?
Shows effort. I do think the intention of something shows how serious it can be.
In the battle, I just think the new character would be superior in most cases and reasoning.
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@TAG said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2938562#Comment_2938562
Here's a question: Hypothetically, is it possible to create a new character in this regard that follows the same beats as David? Hard, gruff no-nonsense brawler dude who is actually in the closet? If so, how is that meaningfully different from taking an established hard, gruff no-nonsense brawler dude and establishing that they're actually in the closet? If not, why not?
Of course hypothetically speaking it would be possible. It'd be meaningfully different because we'd know 100% it was intended to be that way and not something they only decide after the fact. The fact being "we want to add in a LGBT character into the game."
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I agree. If they are downed right on the exit you should be able to pick them up.
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@Dito175 said:
If it was a new character it would feel like tokenism.
How isn't it?
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Those flashlights aren't gonna stop me from killing them 😐.
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Bruh
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@Seraphor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2938562#Comment_2938562
Yes lets lock the first LGBT+ character behind a paywall so it looks like you're only doing it for profit, and have them LGBT+ right off the bat so that defines their entire character...
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/1C23APP5POZ4/5lowwze-5b1-5d.png
This is why you converse with the community instead of just doing the first thing that pops into your head.
I read that the first day I found out David was gay. That response is not taken seriously by me.
I'll bring the taboo up again "free content".
I'd potentially buy the character anyway.
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@Seraphor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937900#Comment_2937900
Which community thinks that? Are you generalising?
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2938547#Comment_2938547
How would you go about implementing sincere representation in a way that doesn't seem like just PR then? You might start by discussing how to do so with a community of LGBT+ gamers. Funnily enough, that's what they did.
If anything about this seems "just PR" I can agree the tweet announcing it was out of the ordinary, as they don't typically announce lore details in that way. However it was a detail that the community in question would want to know about.
Maybe a less grating method would have been to announce it in a tweet a little while after it was available to read. Say, today for instance. "Btw guys, you might have noticed... blah blah, we worked with GaymerX to... etc.".
Make a new and unique character with their own personality and style. Something that feels more genuine and intentional from the start.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937900#Comment_2937900
Probably because it was, lmao
They most likely had a little roundtable and said "who do we make gay so the weirdos on the forums stop screeching at us" and picked a character.
I wouldn't be so harsh to call people weirdos, but yeah. Probably
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@t0007319 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937896#Comment_2937896
I feel like this is why the community thinks David Kings lore was changed just for PR then
Definitely a thought at the back of the mind.
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Sounds cool honestly, but also gimmicky to a degree.
Another way would spawn him with at least 1 trap then whenever he places that one another trap will begin to recharge in which he'd simply gain a other trap to place.
He can still pick them up manually and the such, but now they'll instantly be teleported into his hand as well when his power recharges.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937827#Comment_2937827
I don’t wanna be a hater but… why should they?
also, yeah still possible if the criticism was actually formulated respectfully and constructive and doesn’t boil down to ‚I am fine with all the heterosexual relationships but now you have crossed the line‘…
Whenever I saw the pinned post I'd hoped someone would make a follow up, but in criticism format. This is the closest thing right now as far as I've seen.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937817#Comment_2937817
great that you acknowledge that it’s in your opinion and don’t state it’s an objective fact.
sure you can look at it that way. IMO it would be just limiting themselves for future tome story’s if they couldn’t add new stuff to their characters. Also Wraith got that mention about him and Nurse being a thing and I am pretty sure he wasn’t inherently intended to be straight/into women during his creation process either.
I don't wanna sound like a hater, but do you think they'd pin a post where a LGBT member gave a heartfelt criticism like they did the other post and reply with meaningful comments?
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937808#Comment_2937808
There is no proof either way and just assuming it and then acting like it’s written in stone doesn’t help.
and he didn’t need to have been intended to be gay from the beginning - it’s part of his story now and the story isn’t contradicting itself at all
Him being intended to be gay from the start makes his story (and the companies attempt at representation) more genuine in my opinion and overall better.
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@KateMain86 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937772#Comment_2937772
I didn't see him as gay before is all I meant. I do recall reading his information page in game awhile back and never saw anything that implied he was or could have been.
It's as I've said, David being gay probably hadn't been intended originally.
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HOOOOOOOYAHHHHHHHH
Everyone gets one....
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Junk and Brig.
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@_AdamFrancis_ said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937689#Comment_2937689
We BOTH know that won't happen. As a matter of fact if they do, I will literally never post in general ever again.
We can always imagine a post from the opposite side getting some recognition, even if it isn't this one.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937733#Comment_2937733
I am pretty sure you are also assuming much here without actual attacks happening. Otherwise if you do get unjustly personally attacked, report those comments.
I could be assuming and exaggerating, but things can always happen.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937718#Comment_2937718
As I have said, calling out homophobic statements isn’t attacking the person. And some statements were at least on the edge (I don’t remember if you made such comments or have been called out yourself, but at least there were definitely such comments).
and as you probably will understand, this is a very subjective topic and people have diverse opinions on this. Sonetten if you don’t agree that a statement is homophobic you will agree that it’s okay if others have a different opinion than yours, right?
There is no issue with someone having a different opinion, but I still don't see the reason to on edge attack someone. I myself, have at least tried to keep it civil in replying to others.
But I have definitely seen some backhanded insults towards people who have criticism towards the announcement (and the other views of course), which is honestly unnecessary. I'm pretty sure someone even tried to get me at one point.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937705#Comment_2937705
I see almost all the posts and you are exaggerating and ignoring some actual homophobic statements. Calling out such a statement isn’t attacking anyone, people might make those statements without realizing they are being homophobic.
I haven't ignored anything. I've disagreed with people I've previously agreed with. Confronting and resorting to attacking them based on those statements will not add anything meaningful to the topic at hand.
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@Pulsar said:
Idc about David being gay, I hope it helps others feel included and recognized.
I really dislike how BHVR basically advertised it.
Very simple, yet powerful.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937667#Comment_2937667
You don’t see posts about balance/perks/etc? I still see plenty of them.
also this is a public forum and lore is part of the game so if people wanna discuss it, they are free to do so (sadly many people don’t want a discussion but state their homophobic statements without being called out on acting homophobic..)
Don't forget the good guys who have insulted, labelled, and off handedly attacked people's opinions they do not agree.
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I wonder if they'd pin a post where the poster criticizes bhvr's choice 🤔. Two sides of a coin after all.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937483#Comment_2937483
I don’t get why people go out their way to type this kind of stuff only when it’s related to LGBTQ+ topics when this could be said about literally anything about lore. Does it matter that David played rugby? Does it matter that Frank and Julie were banging eachother? Does it matter that Adam liked to travel around the world?
Frank and Julie was banging bro 😫 that's actually kinda lame ngl.
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I'd prefer them just to make new characters because as I've said before just making existing characters gay or the such makes me cringe a little.
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@Seraphor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2937036#Comment_2937036
Confirmed by the devs, via the lore in the game.
It's not all about the tweet.
David isn't gay because of the tweet, that would be the cheapest, laziest thing they could have possibly done. No, its written into his lore, which is now in the game itself. That's what makes his character.
I feel as if the tweet and lore is one of the same. I found out because someone made a post about it on the subreddit.
And the official release of the tome (if I'm right) was a day after the tweet. So this puts bhvr in the position of essentially making David gay via tweet before lore.
(Feel free to correct me if I did get those date wrong)
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@Dabrownman1812 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2936343#Comment_2936343
Either way is lazy, even if one is likes better, just slapping on lgbtq on a character that fans fantasize about is lazy. It's difficult with tokenism because it's always about virtue signalling, even if someone likes it. I have characters that are lgbtq, and the focus isn't on their sexuality. So to see dbd with all their resources take that out is irksome. I don't mind if david king was gay, but it seems very forced. Even if the situation was relatable to some members, the writing and broadcasting seems forced vs being organic.
Good to see more people who have similar thoughts.
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Well your right. The game is garbage
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Civ6 is a pretty neato game.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2936249#Comment_2936249
Considering how it turned out, that’s 2 years well spent.
A popular opinion.
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Well I for one, still hope Evil Dead is a lot better than DBD. Wouldn't be hard anyways.
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@Seraphor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2936073#Comment_2936073
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/1C23APP5POZ4/5lowwze-5b1-5d.png
Yes lets lock the first lgbt+ character behind a paywall, that definitely doesn't scream "pandering for profit".
Imagine spending 2 years researching, discussing with communities about the best way to implement lore, then you get called lazy.
The only thing lazy here is the argument you only put 2 seconds of thought into.
Being fair, they spent 2 years to use an already existing character.
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Fair
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Nothing wrong with what your saying Unknown Killer. I'm pretty sure I get what you mean.
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@deKlaw_04 said:
How is this thread still going lmao
I ask myself that same thing.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2935706#Comment_2935706
Random because.... You said so?
I can understand making an existing character gay or the similar. Full on trans is definitely something that should be given to a new character.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2935683#Comment_2935683
I am thankful that I am secure with my own sexuality (gay) that I don't need to know who is gay and who is not before purchasing a character.
You claim labeling you a "homophobe" is how think other people see you, when in fact you are the one who is making yourself look that way, with comments such as:
Idk man, them making one of the existing characters trans would definitely be random at that point.
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@KateMain86 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2935584#Comment_2935584
Sure why not I guess? I mean I think I'm pretty much considered a homophobe by a few people here by now so you can go ahead and throw another label on me. Its fine. You won't see me doing that to you or anyone else here though. Hatred isn't my thing.
Is it just me or are the ones who are the most accepting of David's coming out the ones who have insulted more people?
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@Kweh said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2935203#Comment_2935203
Corporate pandering and you idiots eat it up believing an entity that probably only cares about money and shareholders cares about you and representing you? If they actually cared it wouldn't be so lazy and half-arsed. This company doesn't care about its playerbase, much less as an extension, sub-groups in it's playerbase. It's more face saving business talk we've seen a thousand times before by companies.
Bit more harsh than I'd put it, but someone has to say it eventually