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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2066288#Comment_2066288
You actually think reversed controls are a good idea? there would be more disconnects against clown than Legion, Nurse and Freddy put together.
Honestly I haven't seen the video, so I'm going just off of what I've read here...
I like that idea. Saints Row 3 had a boss fight that pulled that gimmick, one of my favorites in the series. Would love to see it in pvp. So he hits you with the fart jar and suddenly down is up and up is down? That sounds like fun to play against and with.
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Needs more randomly capitalized words to really get across how serious you are.
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That was the first video of his I have ever seen. It was pretty good #########.
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@Tizzle said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2065779#Comment_2065779
The true value of DS was and still is guaranteeing an obsession in the match to deter tunneling someone straight out of the game.
Not sure how some people can't seem to comprehend this.
With the DS nerf there are now more games without an obsession and that's a problem.
I tried. He is completely incapable of that level of comprehension. He's firmly decided what he thinks, and no amount of logic or reason will ever make him second guess it.
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@valvarez4 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2065434#Comment_2065434
If I see someone being tunneled in mucho team I kill myself at first hook.
Then I sincerely hope we are never teamed together when I am playing Survivor. Can't abide selfish people who don't know the meaning of teamwork.
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@oh_salutations said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2063398#Comment_2063398
you have to keep in mind that killers proxy camp someone unhooks and the killer immediately goes after the survivor sometimes its not even 10 seconds of a hook. when a survivor is hooked that's 3 people on gens then someone has to save the survivor so its 2 people on a gen and some survivors are not in a team so there are times where multiple survivors stop what the are going to unhook so no-one is on a gen
That's why I bring Kindred. Most underrated perk in the game.
As for proxy camping? If he's watching the hook he's not patrolling gens. If you unhook someone and know the killer is there and don't have BT, the least you can do is take the protection hit so your teammates live.
And yes, I'm aware that sometimes you get crap teammates who will farm you, unfortunately there isn't a fix for that that doesn't punish everyone else.
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@spiritsLeftball said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2065269#Comment_2065269
Omg who’s the dramatic one here :D
please tell me what tactics and tools you use to stop tunnelling, I’m really interested.
We all have played killer here and know for a fact that if you are determined to remove a s specific player from the match ASAP a stub from DS won’t stop that.
If I see someone's on my team being tunneled, I run after them, try and take the protection hit, or pop gens to get their attention. If they are downed I try to save or delay the killer enough for them to wiggle free.
Don't you?
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@Kilmeran said:
@AsherFrost I have over 300 hours on Lucio right now. I used to main Mercy and Zen, but all the reworks and them not figuring out what do with her . . . I gave up.
Zen will always be my other main, though.
Lucio, D.Va and Torj are my favorite
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2065292#Comment_2065292
And I stand by what I said. Only difference is that unlike you, I understand that if a killer has every intention of TUNNELING, even if the survivor has began to ‘tap’ a gen, the intention is there and therefore it is guess what? Still tunneling.
So if DS is suppose to punish tunneling, then the timer should not deactivate. Unless the survivor has made progress on their objective, which is what has been pivoted as the only pre-requisite for it to work. Hiding and getting to a safe spot does not count as “progression”.
“Go ahead and tunnel” actually it’s more of a joke, but I can see that aside from not sharing the same views we don’t share the same humor. So I’ll leave you with this. You do you and I’ll keep doing me. Cuz at the end of the day we both know that this isn’t the end to this discussion. Tunneling is still being abused till this day, even with DS. So I’ll go ahead and have a conversation with non-biased players who understand both sides. Thanks
Ah yes, the classic "if you don't agree I'm right you must only play one side" argument. Fun stuff.
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@Kilmeran said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2065324#Comment_2065324
Same. I started as Support in beta and will always main support, though I am also beast on 76, Junkrat, and Zarya as well.
I took matters into my own hands, I flipped to Lucio and stick near the middle of the team due to his aura effect. Lucio not meta? Whatever, peeling for your healer has apparently never been meta. 🤣
I do love Lucio, remember Lucio ball? Good times.
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@Kilmeran said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2065269#Comment_2065269
As a Support main in Overwatch . . . oh Jesus H. Christ, yes we do indeed.
IKR? Support main since launch here (makes sense, my wow main was priest and resto druid). When I am tunneled in OW though, I just put up the standard "no protection no heal" sign, i.e. switch to damage boost. :)
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@Sluzzy said:
I knew it was going to be bad but not like this. Apparently killers don’t have the Trickster with overpowered meta perks yet so the amount of slugging and tunneling is now an epidemic with all the meta killers and meta perks. Have only seen one Trickster today. Decisive strike can now be exploited by killers and it is a major issue.
Can’t play with the new character because killers see no obsession and that means tunnel each one down. Slugging is running rampant in a majority of matches.
The killer objective is way too easy to do for majority of matches. DS now needs some desperate buffs to make it fun when using it. Survivor agency should be as important as killer agency.
I Missed you :)
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2065250#Comment_2065250
No one is talking about ‘potato their way” to a stun. But nice way to again change the argument that was actually being had.
Guess I’ll just potato to a tunnel since the devs just made it easier.
Here is what you said:
"The difference is that the killer’s next move is going to determine whether you can use DS or not. Or should the survivor just wait what 30-50 seconds just to make sure the killer isn’t going to play like scum? No thanks."
So to you, the difference (and clearly problem given the numerous complaints you have lodged here) is that you now have to pay attention to the killer's next move, which means prior to the nerf, you wouldn't do so, which is root vegetable thinking if I ever saw it.
Go ahead and tunnel. I don't care. It's a valid tactic as per the dev team, so have fun. If you can catch the Survivor 4 times, they deserve the sacrifice. Or, if they are smarter, they'll use their perks, surroundings and teammates to deny the sacrifice. Just that simple.
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@spiritsLeftball said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2065005#Comment_2065005
How can you compare looping to camping and tunnelling. Looping generates points for both players. It’s one of the most part of a trial.
Tunneling is depriving a player out of taking part in the match. It’s not fun to be tunnelled and it’ll more than likely leave the player earning little to no blood points.
Why should I have to completely stop playing survivor because rank 1 killers won’t stop tunneling.
You don't have to completely stop playing. Nobody is stopping you from playing unless they are at your house unplugging the controller or hacking you, being over dramatic isn't going to change the facts.
Tunneling has existed and will exist in every multiplayer game that isn't a 1 shot insta-kill scenario. I get tunneled all the time playing support in Overwatch, and playing Survivor here. I deal with both the same way, change tactics, use the tools provided in game, and work with my team. The new ds still works the same in instances where you are being tunneled.
Also in this game particularly being tunneled out means losing 4 chases. You say looping is one of the most fun parts of the game, well there's 4 opportunities to loop your heart out. Bring ds and you get 5.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064941#Comment_2064941
The difference is that the killer’s next move is going to determine whether you can use DS or not. Or should the survivor just wait what 30-50 seconds just to make sure the killer isn’t going to play like scum? No thanks.
At that specific point tunneling is what it is: tunneling.
You can keep twisting the story but it ain’t going to work. Especially when I was the one who tested it and I meant to tunnel the survivor out, I wasn’t trying to avoid them.
I'm not twisting anything. I can only go by what you type, not whatever thoughts you may have had at the moment.
I expect smart Survivors to pay attention to their surroundings and yes, pay attention to what the killer is doing, to determine whether or not it is a good idea to do something to remove ds. It'll take more thought now, rather than just always being there to use, you've got to plan out when you need it and when you can just hop on a gen/totem/heal a teammate. If your major complaint is about the thought required, I don't know what to tell you. I guess sorry you don't get to potato your way to a stun anymore.
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@NekoGamerX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2065081#Comment_2065081
so yea useless any nice talking to you I'm done.
If you aren't going to accept good advice when offered, then yeah, not much else to say.
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@Raccoon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2065003#Comment_2065003
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064992#Comment_2064992
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/SGDAICOZIMFZ/image.png
I play solo-queue mostly - Completely altruistic build (aside from Lithe).
I protect my teammates, heal them up (which also benefits me), and just have a good time, usually, regardless of how my teammates or the killer play.
Crazy, I know.
Random aside....been getting really good returns on Second Wind....even though it falls apart due to tunneling/bad saves - Guess I'm just lucky ;3
I was going to respond to cryptic, but your response is better than what I had, so let's go with that.
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@SleepyWillo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2065005#Comment_2065005
"tunneling and camping are legit strategies the same as looping"... big oof
He's literally quoting the dev team there. Do you have information that shows something different?
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@NekoGamerX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064930#Comment_2064930
your hopeless anyways
I don't bring DS because it really does not stop tunneling at all ds is useless because after dsing the killer he/she gets pissed off then tunnels you more and your lucky if he doesn't camp you that why I don't I don't bring it
but sometime when there Obsession killer play more fair may not tunnel that person fresh off the hook
but to me ds was never anti tunneling perk it was I'm going to piss the killer off perk so if I want fair game on both sides why run it.
Ds totally stops tunneling... When used correctly. The problem is people expect the perk to do all the work. You gotta manage the stun time, get to a teammate or good loop, or even just hide.
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@Nathan13 said:
if unbreakable shouldn't allow you to pick yourself up, than you may as well just delete it. Same with soul guard.
Seriously, leave UB and SG alone, OP is arguing for a heavier nerf than the DS one actually is, I don't get it. I thought he wanted to win as Survivor
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@Crypticghoul said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064960#Comment_2064960
Sure your argument works for coordinated SWFs but regardless of the match result the amount of people I see just get run down off hook and removed around 3-4 gens left just because they are the "weak link" in solo queue is just wrong. They barely get to play the game and survivor queues are so bad at night that they probably wait like 7-10 minutes for that experience.
Why aren't you helping them when you see them get tunneled? You don't have to be in any sort of swf to see a teammate getting chased and either try a save or at least to take the protection hit so they can make the next loop.
Survivor queues are long because there are less and less people willing to play killer. Balancing the game around the worst Survivors would be the best way to make sure that trend continues unabated.
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@SleepyWillo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064960#Comment_2064960
Have you actually played this game? Like, seriously? Have you not seen survivors teabbag eachother? Suicide on first hook? DC on first down? This isnt a 4v1. Its a (1v1v1v1)v1
Too bad there's no patch for human stupidity. I'm sorry you get ######### teammates, really I am, but I don't want a game balanced around the stupidest players.
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@Crypticghoul said:
Tunneling just needs to be looked at in general by BHVR. It's stupid that the only things deterring tunneling are good will and the fear of the survivor MAYBE having two perks (BT, DS) that extend chases off hook. There should really be a non-DS base kit tunnel deterrent.
There is. It's called teamwork and is available for free on all Survivors, doesn't even take a perk slot, just people willing to work as a team to win a game.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064889#Comment_2064889
No it doesn’t, but the one where (yet again repeating myself) the survivor manages to get to a safe spot and the killer tracks them down, ignoring the rest can and does.
As I said in an earlier post, I tried it and I didn’t even need to wonder if they still had DS because they had already been on a gen for at least a few seconds after I didn’t see them, when they were unhooked.
It is what it is. You can continue to say that it’s not that common, bottom line is DS was changed under the same circumstantial scenarios even tho many of us never even got to see DS as a stun, because it was that easy to counter. Now they have just made it even easier to go the scummy route should one choose to.
Ok. I agree, sometimes you can be rescued, get where you think you are safe, and get hit... So? What exactly makes that different from old ds? Y'all are acting like the sky is falling over nothing.
As for your example of actual game play. You hooked a survivor, they got free and managed to progress a gen, so you weren't tunneling, why should they still get the benefit of the anti-tunnel perk?
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@NekoGamerX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2063840#Comment_2063840
because then some killers don't tunnel sometime. I mean I never use a obsession perk I shouldn't have to what will it hurt if there be obsession in match even and there no obsession perks in play?
just admit it you and all killers like it when there no obsession so you can blindly hard tunnel and camp the first survivor you see when there 4 or 5 gen still left just so you can have an easy game.
I never camp, but I will totally tunnel in almost every match. I have no problem admitting it, hell check my post history and you'll see one of the only threads I ever started was specifically to point out that tunneling is good. Obsession or not, if I see a weak link, I'm going for it. Nothing personal, just 1v3 is a lot easier to win than 1v4 is.
As for the rest? I don't see why either side should get an advantage they aren't willing to bring a perk for. I don't expect gens to regress at ruin levels unless I bring ruin. I don't expect an obsession unless I bring an obsession perk. Just that simple.
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I've never had someone make a meme just to stawman an argument, it's a brand new day.
You claim ds is useless just because you can get an obsession using other perks. That appears to be your entire argument.
I never said ds was op, or to "git gud" I merely pointed out that the fact you can use DS solely for the obsession benefit means it is not useless, as you claimed. Is it going to proc in every single match? No, are you going to get Slugged in every single match? Also no, yet people still bring ub for the times they are. If you don't see the use, don't bring it. Won't affect me either way.
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@Chatkovski said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064097#Comment_2064097
I don't understand the usefulness of all these numbers since this is not the gen tapping trial here (which is probably legitimate, I read an interesting topic about normal VS Ruin regression speed). So I am repeating myself.
- You consider DS to be used to punish a killer who is tunneling.
- Quick interactions are perfectly achievable when faced with a killer who is tunneling. Knowing how to manage both is precisely what we call playing well, not playing stupid.
- Since the killer is tunneling, performing these interactions does not justify deactivating a perk serving to punish the killer who is tunneling.
And this is true no matter what you think of gen tapping, whatever its reality, whatever its usefulness. I'll say something absurd to be understandable: DS shouldn't punish gen tapping, even if gen tapping didn't exist.
DS is used to punish a killer who is tunneling, not to arbitrarily punish a Survivor playing correctly despite facing a killer who is tunneling. And a killer who is tunneling a survivor who gen tap, is still a killer who is tunneling a survivor. A killer who is tunneling a survivor who is unhooking another survivor is still a killer who is tunneling. A killer who is tunneling a survivor who heals another dying survivor for less than a second is still a killer who is tunneling, etc.
What you want, and what currently is, is that a Survivor that the Killer is tunneling can do nothing but... be tunneled. Now, so that DS is not unnecessary and even harmful, the survivor has an interest in the killer tunneling it. It is absurd, the objective is precisely the opposite: that the killer does not do that, and if he does, that he be punished. And I'm not even talking about the impact of that nerf when the killer is snowballing: a survivor with DS isn't allowed to help the team.
It's always that with the killers: heads or tails, you should always lose against them, and if you lose, it is necessarily that you are stupid.
This nerf is abusive, and it is certainly one of the worst in terms of game design. I stop here and will not answer any more. My opinion is pretty clear: DS may deserve a change, but definitely not this one. Gen tapping may deserve a response, but not by disabling a perk used to respond to tunneling.
Hit the ds stun first, tap the gen during the window after the killer has been stunned
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064497#Comment_2064497
And which situation according to you did I come up with? This is the first time I am interacting with you about scenarios, unless you are referring to the scenario which a previous poster could no longer respond to.
You call my argument weak, when you yourself have no argument. Other than pinning this to a rank 20 which I am not, nor are the people that I have played with that this happens to. Nice try tho.
The situation where someone gets rescued, and then runs to a gen with 0 progress and just taps it. That's not something that happens.
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@Mugombo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064587#Comment_2064587
But I’m still right that equipping DS does nothing in most games.
The benefits you mention can be gained without equipping it.
So in other words it’s pretty pointless to bring DS in most games.
So by your logic Inner Strength does nothing. After all you can use self heal or get healed by a teammate, so it's worthless, right?
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@EvanSnowWolf said:
BHVR should make it so that tapping a generator procs a Skill Check to stop regression.
That would work.
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@Mugombo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064487#Comment_2064487
No you didn’t, you benefited from there being an obsession in the game. It wouldn’t have made a difference if you equipped DS or not if someone else had an obsession perk
If.
Key word. If.
So I get the benefit myself by bringing the perk. Or I don't bring it and hope one of my teammates makes up for it.
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@gibblywibblywoo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064516#Comment_2064516
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064520#Comment_2064520
Yes, the knife effect wore off the screen and I randomly boosted to full HP from Injured.
That's just weird. Good to know to stay away from the new killer for a bit. Good thing the new Survivor looks fun.
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So he got you to injured and then you auto healed, or what?
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064183#Comment_2064183
It doesn’t matter how often it happens. I assume probably a lot, considering most survivors want to work on the objective once they feel it is safe to do so.
Also, nobody asked how many times DS was abused, because it wasn’t that common for some killers who knew how to counter it. But here we are now.
It does matter. If you are tapping, not working on, just tapping a 0% gen Ds or the lack thereof isn't the problem, your inability to understand the game mechanics is. I get you had to come up with a situation where you felt you had an argument, but the situation you did come up with can only be described as some newbie rank 20 nonsense that Survivors don't actually do in games they want to win. The fact that you had to come up with such a ridiculous example honestly just goes to show how weak your original argument is.
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@Mugombo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064457#Comment_2064457
And how often do you get to use the 5s stun with the new ds. Make an estimate as a %
No idea, but anytime the killer isn't tunneling as a result of seeing the obsession, I still benefitted from having it.
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Watch more horror movies.
One of the best horror movies I ever saw was Audition.
That's the killer... Just a pretty girl with a sick, sick mind. That's the most scary part, that a monster can live among us and nobody would be able to tell by looking at them.
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@Mugombo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064437#Comment_2064437
Yeah but this whole thing started with the effectiveness of equipping the perk DS. So you agree that equipping the perk DS is pointless in most games?
Not at all. It's a 5s stun against a killer who finds you right after you are unhooked. That alone makes it a good perk, the passive bonus of having an obsession to make the killer think twice about how he plays is just icing on the cake. The active ability is in fact, so good that it created the entire passive benefit of survivors running obsession perks. I can't think of a single other perk that has done the same. I run it every Survivor match.
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@Mugombo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064413#Comment_2064413
So you clearly agree that the passive benefit you are on about isn’t gained by just equipping DS. It’s gained by having an obsession in the game which can be done in many other ways.
I never claimed it was exclusive to ds, just that you received a benefit. There are multiple ways to get an obsession, which is why there is no need for BHVR to make an obsession default in every match. If Survivors want there to be an obsession, they have plenty of ways to make that happen, all thanks ultimately to the power of DS.
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@Mugombo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064388#Comment_2064388
You do realise you can get an obsession without equipping DS right? Or was you not aware of this
Of course. Doesn't change anything however.
Again, you equipped the perk, you got the benefit. Sure, you could have used a different one for nearly the same result, and you would have still benefitted, that doesn't mean you don't benefit if you equip ds, just that you have more ways to gain that passive benefit than just equipping ds.
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@Mugombo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2063876#Comment_2063876
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2063849#Comment_2063849
That’s not the same thing as getting value from equipping a perk. Blood pact makes an obsession.
How exactly isn't it? You equipped the perk, you benefitted. Had you not have equipped the perk, you would have not seen any benefit. That simple.
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@Raccoon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064183#Comment_2064183
*touches gen at 0% while injured with DS up, literally forfeiting DS in the most unoptimal use possible, getting downed shortly after*
CURSE YOU, KILLER!
No idea what they're actually trying to rationalize, either.
Right? Gotta be the strangest argument I've seen employed here, and I regularly read the posts of our most famous master baiter (conspicuous by his absence today, strangely)
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@foxsansbox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064268#Comment_2064268
I did go back and read it, look at my edit - which was made several seconds after I posted.
It is in australia
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@ShamelessPigMain said:
I understand that looking at a game's forums is probably asking to see the gates of hell but how true is it that this is the most vitriolic, spiteful, dogmatic, self-righteous, entitled, arrogant, etc, etc. community on Earth? Comments like:
"The game it’s broken from so many nerfs and it’s favorising the killers. Devs only listen to this killers. And I posted so many threads about how bad they camp, they tunnel, they use NOED so they can stay AFK all the game and get easy kills at the end, even if they are very bad as killers...so many things that I don’t like about this game...I don’t even have the time to write them. All my threads complaining about these things that make this game unplayable have been deleted in an abusive way. So enjoy a new game and let the killers play alone. They just want to play with some bots not survivors with human brains. They will complain always anyway. Btw this forum is 90% killers. So you will have spam from their salty comments"
It's like watching the Karen at the mall yell at the Macy's cashier and lecture her about respect and being humble and saying "You've lost a very important customer!" And that's pretty much the entire exchange. And it goes equally toxic for the killer side.
Honestly I think at least 50% of those posts are not made in earnest.
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@foxsansbox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2064222#Comment_2064222
Because he lost my attention with the near infantile level of crying.
Go read the last line of his post and get back to me.
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@golubushka08 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/238618/im-done-bye
You can play Home Sweet Home Survive instead of dbd. I left dbd 1 month ago too from the same reasons. The game it’s broken from so many nerfs and it’s favorising the killers. Devs only listen to this killers. And I posted so many threads about how bad they camp, they tunnel, they use NOED so they can stay AFK all the game and get easy kills at the end, even if they are very bad as killers...so many things that I don’t like about this game...I don’t even have the time to write them. All my threads complaining about these things that make this game unplayable have been deleted in an abusive way. So enjoy a new game and let the killers play alone. They just want to play with some bots not survivors with human brains. They will complain always anyway. Btw this forum is 90% killers. So you will have spam from their salty comments.
Actually it appears to be 90% people who can't read to the end of posts, but go off I guess.
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Never let the other team determine your loadout or playstyle, that doesn't happen in any other team based multiplayer game I've been in, I don't see why it should here. If you get insults, take it as a sign that you frustrated them. Run all the "2nd chance" perks you want, do the gens you want, do the totems you want. Play to win.
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@Kebek said:
"JAHJKHh ahi ugsd gag sagfgfhfgh April fools btw kgiopg gj aiopghi hghf" was my favourite part.
Good post, I give it 8/10 Sluzzy points.
It's gotta be at least 8-9, look at the response, lol.
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@foxsansbox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/238618/im-done-bye
Why do you require attention from the same community you claim you're leaving?
Why don't you read the bottom of posts?
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Agreed, we need a new map, not just reworks of existing ones.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2063943#Comment_2063943
ok so first off, you said tapping a gen is progressing the objective, did you not? So now all of a sudden it doesn’t matter if it’s at 0% that they began to tap, because it still somehow (again at 0%) progressing the game and helping the team?
Which one is it because I know damn well 0% is that... zero, nada.
I never said a killer shouldn’t be able to stop a survivor off a gen, I said DS shouldn’t deactivate if that killer intentionally sought them out. And I also specificed that im specifically talking about touching a gen, at 0%.
How often are you tapping gens at 0, and why?