to all people saying "nurse basekit is fine"
"nurse isnt OP, just her addons are and need a rework" -> well, youre all wrong :)
nurse is even OP af without any addons
mah boi zubat will show you easily <3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCsmXON53BIanother day another nurse thread ^-^ i wish you all a happy weekend
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Maybe that’s because nurse doesn’t auto down people and the depip squad knows how to play against her?
Holy cow, this thread is still going?
Haven't seen this since Entity's Hangout
(Nurse needs no nerfs, no killer needs nerfs. Most killers need buffs)
@Ember_Hunter idk man, I’ve learned how to properly apply pressure and I’m doing pretty good. I recently switched my main to clown and forcing survivors to medium vault and camp pallets is pretty good.
What happened to Bubba? (And tips on how to keep pressure doing killer games?)
@Ember_Hunter I wanted to try other killers and clown was just there, his beautiful body under the moonlight and we became one.
For keeping pressure:Cut chase if it last longer than (I do 30 seconds), slug people whenever you know where other survivors are, try to keep everyone wounded if possible(this tip is situational), if you know where everyone is then you should attempt to down them all, don’t tunnel people with self-care(they are feeding you pressure),sometimes you gotta hit and run,if you tunnel someone then slug them to find more prey,kick gens(obviously), find a killer that works for you and marry them and create the perfect build with them.
For clown I use Perks:Sloppy butcher,Deerstalker,pop goes the weasel and HexRuin(early game)
Add-ons: Reload speed and reload movement speed are his best in my experience.
Yeah, I always try to cut chases when I spy people sneaking gens, but then i begin to panic when I am chasing someone and 3 gens pop at the same time.
@Ember_Hunter try to not panic, even if they do every gen you have a chance to secure more kills,just remember not to chase too long(most important rule), you main Wraith so hitting and running is effective on him in my experience.
Yep, I wish RNG is better so I can get silent Wraith back on again, other builds don't help as much XD
If it's okay that unhooks are made impossible via the killer body blocking the hook prompt, then by that logic it would be okay that hooks are made impossible by survivors via permanent hook sabo. I'm not inventing any opinions for you; either you think permanent hook sabo is okay or you don't, and if you don't then you're a hypocrite. Those are your options here.
Again you don't speak for the devs, and you don't understand how game development works.
Fact is, permanent hook sabo is just unfair to the killer. They tested stuff and tried to come up with the right solution before they implement it, because implementing the WRONG solution means they just have to do the work over again.
It's pretty obvious at this point you are just killer baised and ANYTHING the devs do is only at the behest of survivors. It's just not true, you are living in a fantasy world. You are defending something about the game that is just flat out broken, nothing more nothing less. If you want to defend a hook, then you need to actively do it. You can't just stand there and make it impossible. Whether making the save is the right move or not is irrelevant.
It's because nurse desperately needs a rework/huge nerf
I have had my fair share of multi-minute nurse chases. Do you know what I say to myself when a nurse doesn't down me within 30 seconds? It isn't "wow! I guess I know how to play against nurse now!" or "wow! Juking against nurse isn't so tough! Why are so many people complaining?" No. I say "it's a good thing this nurse isn't playing well."
In my opinion, Dead hard is the most CONSISTENT (key word) way to waste a Nurse's time. None of the survivors in the de-pip games had exhaustion perks. Nothing they were doing was extraordinarily special (in chases) and yet it was taking minutes to down them for most chases. That means the nurse is either not good, or not playing well.
I love the comment a little bit below yours too. "hey, zubat has 2k hours in nurse so i think it is fine he does this well with nurse." while I know it isn't realistic, I wish the forums linked to your steam account so you could just scroll past players who have never played against a real nurse.
I love your first paragraph
Intresting idea my idea for a rework would be nurse's blink should be used to travel long distances like a 4 or 5 second hold of her power she could travel from one end of yamaoka estate and back again but she can't swing after blink then get the same or lessened fatigue after blink and her movement speed would have to be raised to 115% movement speed which means shes doesn't ignore pallets or windows anymore and isn't f tier anymore
I think the very good idea is when everyone play Nurse, yea ikr your friends want to play SWF screw this, just play Nurse, tell everyone "play Nurse", mayby if like huge majority be playing Nurse somethings happend.
Please tell me what hook-sabo and old face-camping have in common in terms of design principle or mechanical implementation? This just looks like you continuing to gish gallop and derail.
Then just uninstall?
You're as bad as those "DC vs Legion" brats.
You get one killer out of what, 14 and cant handle a single challenging game?
Maybe try something less challenging. Minecraft?
Because as they said in regards toBilly, they were made when the game was different, and was balanced differently. If they tried to release a Billy tier now, the forums would ######### and moan until he got released with a wiffle ball bat.
That being said, they also dont want to remove having 3 or 4 actual top tier killers.
Just as some can be purely for fun and no good, some can be extremely powerful.
So like freddy gen teleport but even less useful.
What about the survivor mains who think shes fine?
She ignores pallets. So do the same. She sees you going for a pallet, and KNOWS you're ######### up. But yall keep doing it and blaming nurses. Dont rely on ONE method of escape.
Use your brain.
Spoken like someone who can't stay in red ranks as killer unless they use nurse. I bet you loved abusing how broken legion was.
I play more survivor than killer, and dont TRY to keep red ranks because I'd rather enjoy my game. I actually DID hit red ranks. With wraith.
But yes, make baseless accusations toward someone you know nothing about.
Also if you look back at the ban threads for legion, I was advocating putting a message up so that users WOULD GET BANNED.
But please, tell me more tales about my life that are 100% wrong.
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Dont run straight at pallets. Act like it. Get her to commit. Learn how the nurse you're playing against uses her teleports, and play around them.
Dont get caught. Hide. Trust that you didnt get seen sometimes instead of freaking out and sprinting away trying to lose chase.
Use. Your. Brain.
I'm not gonna use mine for you every time you have an issue you cant figure out.
Ready other comments. I dont "tryhard".
The fact remains you have options, yet people these days all pigeonhole themselves into "one playstyle" and never learns anything else. Its proven with how many threads ######### about the constant looping. And guess what nurse counters?
So again. Think a little for yourself. Dont play stupid. Dont play it like it's just another round against a ######### freddy.
But yes, you trying the old "1v1 me" really makes your argument more valid than the points I've actually typed out.
Great strats. I'm sure it works well at whatever rank you are at.
Yep devotion 4 p3 on multiple killers and survivors but I reached red ranks by being mediocre. No it's called not worrying about a win every game. Not being "mediocre". Its not hard to do well. Random survivors however led me to the carefree playstyle.
I never said I had a pro SWF team. The fact that you assume and imply it says all I need to know. You're just an extremely biased and angry person. So goodbye. I posted points and responses and you only want to bash or berate.
Grow up.
People use a lot the argument that the fun in the game for players with experience is the chase and that Nurse can counter all the ways survivors have to run from a killer.
I personally think that playing vs a nurse is more frightening and even better than run from a normal killer. It's basically a chase but with a different game style. Not running to pallets or windows, but yes mindgaming her and force her to make mistakes. It's harder, but that's how killers should be, hard to counter.
You posted the same old things that people who actually have experience with have said is patently not effective against a good nurse. When what you say is completely against what the majority of people who know what they are talking about are saying, one has to wonder why you are insistent.
@ScottJund
I wrote in a previous Nurse discussion thread a lengthy post how I play against Nurse players. And I'm not relying on stealth. It's true that Nurse is not loopable like other killers. But that doesn't mean that every game mechanic is broken with her. It's just that she is a game changer, who relies on a different style of gameplay. It's about mindgames and prediction. And the last point is what I think is, what seems many survivors have problems to deal with. It's possible to judge during a blink where a nurse will land, and were she can hit you afterwards. And also how obstacles limit her blinkoptions slightly. I really don't want to write another huge post now. But really I really can keep a Nurse player busy for a good while like other killers.
Most survivors can measure her blink distance, it just doesn’t work on good nurses.
I dont think I have ever seen someone that says "jUSt ADapT aND stOp LoOpInG" accept a KYF invite to display these sick adaptations, ever. Very mysterious.
That means her skill is not meaningless. You can still waste her time but not for 5 gens. You can have a 1,000 hours in trapper but it goes straight to hell when you have survivors that know how to loop.
You say that like looping is OP, I’m a clown main and any good killer is not chasing someone for five gens. You’re saying that because she has skill she should be unbeatable in chase?That is flawed logic and frankly I’d like to meet your “stealth” in a kyf.
The nurse isn't getting nerfed and if you ask me, shouldn't have her kit touched AT ALL! I don't care who's mad.
To be fair that means we are allowing add-ons which means the Nurse can use Omegablink and down the guy with OoO in the first 20 seconds of the match so the Nurse still wins in that scenario too. Nothing in DBD is stronger than Omegablink which is why its slated to be nerfed along with multi blink add-ons.
Get a good nurse against 4 good survivors and make them play vanilla. Who’d win?
OoO helps me since I know where they are and can slug others while chasing the OoO user.
I play exclusively high ranks both killer and survivor. The number of good Nurses who destroy survivors and 4k far outweighs the number of 4-man SWF groups I encounter. Quite often these SWF groups have weaker players that are easy to exploit if you actually know how to play killer. The number of SWF groups that play like the de-pip squad are few and far between. So yeah, good Nurses are much more common (especially in the Asian region where the Japanese community are infamous for their love of playing Nurse).
its not about the fact nurse can get a 4k against rank 1 swf survivors .. its the fact how she can do that but not so experienced players like you wont understand.
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"Dont run straight at pallets. Act like it. Get her to commit. Learn how the nurse you're playing against uses her teleports, and play around them.
Dont get caught. Hide. Trust that you didnt get seen sometimes instead of freaking out and sprinting away trying to lose chase.
Use. Your. Brain."
@Carpemortum i really wanna see how you use your brain against a good nurse ;) do you would like to join my kyf? but be prepared i will ask you after the game why you didnt use your brain :) maybe you will find 3 other super stealth players who can finally show me how to play survivor and not die lol
I know not to chase too long with any killer, most killers do not and that is where they fall.
So, just like the others, you're neglecting to read everything I said. Gotchya.
There is a lot more to playing killer than that but that’s is a very important part.
"what are the absolute numbers?!"
And then "the numbers aren't important!"
Lol. Why are you asking for "God nurse" when you know, or at least should know, that you don't need to be a "God" to be too strong of a presence as nurse. You don't even have to be better than the survivors in the game. If you're pretty good as nurse, your chances of winning are extraordinarily high. That's the problem...
Dude go watch tru3. He 4k's people with leather face and legion and makes it look easy. I guess they need a bigger nerf too? 🤦♂️
@FredKrueger search Salgu on twitch, he isn’t cherry picking.
I didn't know Leatherface and Legion can teleport through walls, #########.
double comment
And here you see another guy who didnt even get the point of this thread. SIR !! We need a screenshot from you where you got a 4k as leatherface on rank 10 to verify your comment!
I always wonder if people are trolling or some just arent that smart.
Once you reach a certain skill point with nurse, survivor skill means little to nothing. They can be the most knowledge able survivor in the game. They can somehow be a robot with perfect reaction time playing as survivor. It doesn't matter. And yet that point is below "God nurse". All you saw in most of those de-pip squad videos was Nurses not close to that point, playing in games they didn't belong in. Those nurses being bad means nothing to good nurses. Note I didn't say 'God' nurse. 'God nurses' just rub salt in the wound.
I have read everything you said. What am I missing?
Here's leatherface
https://youtu.be/u5gP2-WjPIYHeres legion
https://youtu.be/RUAtZWXX0EYHeres him against nurse
https://youtu.be/ViP8O-fF8T0This is red rank by the way....