CoH is nerfed, NOED is not
If anyone had any doubts, it shows perfectly which side the devs take in this "us vs them" argument. NOED has been the most unfair and hated perk in the game, turning occasional 0k into 2k, 1k into 3k, and 2k into 4k with no extra effort required. CoH wasn't that strong in the first place, if we don't touch the problematic subject of SWF, and they nerf it after a couple of months.
I guess "just to the bones" argument indeed works in only one direction, it's a title of some sort.
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You wonder why I haven’t been on here in a while. I’m done with this bs arguments & entitlement from both sides: here’s an idea: enjoy the game or go play civilization. Up to you guys.
Ah yes, the classic non-argument. The ole "I can only compare things to other things, while proceeding to make no relevant argument" argument.
Did you guys know that NOED isn't COH? Crazy right?
I feel like we would all finally have peace if NOED was nerfed
Nope. The lazy Survivors who got it nerfed would scream for the next perk to be nerfed. Remember; NoED is fine, it's just that some Survivors don't like ANYTHING that takes them off gens for even a second.
Both sides look to the next thing to get nerfed. Once DS was nerfed killers started crying about dead hard or whatever else.
The DS complaints got tiring and now I’m at the point with NOED.
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That's...not my quote, i said just leave tada, if they're hooked don't go for them, idk why it showed up as that
Y'all really melting down over 4 seconds?
Of course they are. They know it's a fake nerf, but NoED haters will ride this to demand changes to NoED. 😁
Only useful in a 4 man SWF? Bruh, CoH has united Solo gamers in a way that no other perk could have hoped to achieve. All you need to see is shiny blue thing, and survivors will either b-line/urban evade there immediately after unhook/whenever they feel threatened.
everybody knows shiny blue thing brings peace and comfort. If anything, co operative actions have increased thanks to CoH because people want to drown themselves in Pepsi Blue.
i think the nerf only gave an extra 2 seconds to self-heal, and NOED is only strong on certain maps where totem spawns are terrible for survivors e.g. midwich and lery's.
Half the game looking for totems that most ppl not brand new know where 90% spawns are at or the joke that kills the Noed point that you just said most totems will be broken so if ppl break totems that much guess noed isn’t an issue . I play 100% survivor anymore and even I know coh is way better than noed awd or solo.
Because you probably play at low MMR, learn to play and you will understand that NOED its trash perk at high MMR.
Yeah, just yesterday I've seen some tournament streamed by Tofu, and killer used NOED there. It was Frontier vs Odyssey, the latter was the killer, just at the end. So NOED is literally tournament tier perk. Or you want to tell me that Odyssey play at low MMR?
Especially RPD, if NOED goes off there i’m dipping.
I’m high mmr with 4.500 hours, and when I see a killer that only gets 2-3 hooks before 5 gens are done I know he has noed. Why do you think I play against him/her? Because noed gives them extra kills they don’t deserve.
Because noed gives them extra kills they don’t deserve
Oh look; the same lie Survivors always babble. 'They don't deserve the kills because we said so! Proof NoED is broken! 🤪'
Does NoED show the Killer where Survivors are? No. So the Killer still has to use other Perks, or just find them on his own.
Does NoED hurt Survivors on its own? No. So the Killer still has to chase Survivors and hit them.
Does noED hook Survivors on its own? No. So the Killer still has to be aware of flashlight saves, flashbangs, pallets, hook sabo, bodyblocking, DStrike...
The simple fact is that NoED is balanced. Because of this, Survivors vomit lies and fake flaws in order to pretend NoED has flaws to try getting it nerfed. Because they have nothing.
Three unalterable facts that take apart every Survivor whine-post about NoED:
You use noed, don’t you?
Let me guess; you're going to use my answer to dismiss all my points without actually countering them because you've got no counter arguments to solid facts and are seeking a way to ignore my very solid argument?
Yes, sometimes, I do. That does not mean my points are wrong.
No, I knew the answer
Still have not countered my comments. Because you can't.
NOED is staple in competitive because it's so hellishly difficult to even get a single kill there as most killers the main strategy is to camp out first survivor/use NOED to try and get 1 kill normally.
I Agree on this forum being ridiculous but look at the most recent updates and it's hard not to see the devs being survivor biased at least.
Like survs when get free second chance just thanks to DH, BT, DS, SG, Unbrekable, ecc... so if NOED need nerf even 10+ broken survs perks and add-ons need nerf.
the CoH nerf literally won't change anything
Just clean all totems, or remember Totem's spawns. That's all. Noed is low tier perk in my opinion dude
It's not about performance.
Do you think it's fair that a bubba facecamping a survivor right at the start gets a free 2 kill thanks to noed?
And that is because you can't rescue a survivor in front of a decent bubba and you have barely the time to smash 5 gens while someone is getting facecamped, so you can't do dull totems.
This is the best exemple I have to say noed sucks in its current state, and this kind of exemple is very commun, and it usually even turns into 4k when I go solo queue.
I believe several people have done the math and it adds a whole 2 seconds to a full heal. Given how ridiculously fast a normal COH heal is (not counting perks, medkits etc) it's not even a functional nerf!
it's not even a functional nerf
Yeah, I'm convinced that was the point; To try appeasing Killers while making sure Survivors lost nothing. There's no way no one ran the numbers on this nerf. They knew 25% sounded big while doing nothing.
thats not an issue with NOED, thats an issue with how facecamping works.
I think it’ll be like DS where no one will use it the first few weeks, but then it’ll start to be more common again.
They don't even need to memorize.....they have Maps and various perks to find Totems quickly. NOED only has become a hot topic because of Boons, because no one is breaking totems anymore because they don't want to lose a possible location. I had a match where I was running Inner Healing was breaking a totem and 2 survivors literally trolled me the entire match. They body blocked me helped the Killer find me by pointing in a closet I was in until I was dead. At the end game chat they harassed me for breaking 1 totem. I know there are others that think the same way as them with Boons and totems.
Killers: *get nerfed all year round*
Survivors: *get their 1 nerf per year*
SUrvivors: Unfair. Devs have clearly shown what side they favor. THey are so killer sided They just cater to the killers. Uninstalling
If NOED was nerfed the same way CoH was, they would just reduce the movement speed bonus by 1% and call it a day
1 nerf per year? Count all the survivor nerfs since 2016 and compare it to the amount of killer nerfs since 2016.
It’s a good start
??? Yes, removing busted things like literal infinites were good. When 2016 survivor was beyond absurdly overpowered, they needed way more things nerfed or removed. That is not an argument.
COH isnt a perk that does much in endgame, so you dont lose games TO it, moreso BECAUSE of it. Having someone injured is a form of pressure for the killer, and COH removes that because they just need to run to the totem and boom, back to full health. Killers cant drop chase anymore, killers cant slug anymore, killers are having pressure removed because of boons
yeah and they also nerfed the second blink of nurse. jesus lol...