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@bm33 said:
What if they couldn't get license for Jason but instead we get license for his mom as a killer? 😲
hmm 🧐 maybe.
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Backwater, specifically Grim Pantry.
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@Karao_Ke said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2262499#Comment_2262499
If we were basing it off of those two maps, then pretty much more than half the roster instantly goes to F tier lol
Billy goes E- Tier.
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@GeneralV said:
I have one to share.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/LEC5I20EVCY2/killer-tier-list-28fun-vs-29.png
Demo being next to Spirit is either a compliment to Spirit or a huge insult on Demo's side.
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@Karao_Ke said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/LLLKZ02AUPV5/my-image-285-29.png
I wouldn't say this tier list is 100% what I feel is right, but it pretty much captures the idea of how I feel about some killers.
Clown and Pig being higher than Billy is just a straight up lie dude. A few other nitpicks but that's the big one.
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Twins is in A just because of the really strong ability to be able to cover to spots on the map at once really efficiently. Plop Charlotte in a strong choke point and run Victor around a few contested gens and vice verse and you can pretty much cover a game if done well.
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Nea, Meg or Claudette's reworks are my favourite, least favourite is Feng or Dwight. Nea no longer looks as scary, Claudette's hair looks generally normal, and Meg just looks nicer. Dwight is... something and Feng looks like Lord Farquaad.
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@Northener1907 said:
Some killers are boring, when you play againts them. That tier list is not about powers. That is about facing with them is how much fun or boring.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/38UAWZ3DB0ZJ/my-image-284-29.png
freddy is debatable. he's not as ######### annoying anymore, but he's still not that great to be honest.
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yarr here be my tier list
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@GeneralV said:
Here is mine, if I may share:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/9KXKTXFGB0V9/killer-tier-list.png
Honestly pretty valid, although one small caveat: Billy is not A-Tier. He's my secondary main other than Demo, and he's really not an AMAZING killer, but he's still pretty good.
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@OniWantsYourMacaroni said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2260476#Comment_2260476
Best stealth killer is Deathslinger tbh
The amount of time's I've shat myself seeing a speargun fly past my head is too many to count.
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fire up and autodidact because i'm ######### at working until the last few minutes
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Which goofy goober voted nay
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@GannTM said:
How did PWYF end up in S+ tier?
fast
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@GeneralV said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2203416#Comment_2203416
As it should, my friend. We want the same thing, just different characters:
If we get old Freddy back I'm buying him. But give him Dream Pallets and Gen Teleport. That'd be fun.
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Punctured Muffler, Offbrand Motor Oil, Big Buckle, Leafy Mash, Black Grease, Tuned Carburettor, Pighouse Gloves ALL need a rework. Give him a few new charge addons or something and then remove the overheat. Give him a new mori and that's what I want.
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Hiwwbiwwy Aw Demowgawgawn
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@Aneurysm said:
Picture this: you play pig against a ttv. You make a note of their name in case you feel like watching it later, and it turns out you do feel like doing that. You've already forgotten the small things that occured throughout the match, and watching it back you almost piss yourself when the ######### pig appears out of nowhere, although this is, in fact, you.
It's sad there isn't an achievement for this
oh yeah i did this once. poor lad was expecting me to pop up behind him as i broke los in lery's. appeared out of nowhere and gave the man a heart attack lma
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@DwightFairfield said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2203194#Comment_2203194
It already is a bad perk on everyone except Blight
tough words mister dwight.
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@Pilot said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/6RKNL5SW9BTY/image.png
S Tier:
- Oni - Absolutely brutal. Fantastic use of the camera angle & everything.
- Pyramid head - Brutal. Shows you how much stronger he is than you as he approaches you while downed and picks you up with one hand. Love how the camera shakes when he first approaches you. Fantastic detail
- Deathslinger - Shoves his gun into you ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ? Then picks you up & shoots you trough the back and your mouth? Brutal
A tier:
- Demogorgon - Very well executed. Stabs you then eats your head while you hear the muffled screams of your victim? Brutal
- Ghostace - Not as brutal as it is Funny. You can make some pretty nice albums with this one
- Hag - Absolutely brutal. The survivor looks back and the hag instantly jumps at the neck and pulls and eats the survivors guts? Gordon Ramsey would be proud.
- Legion - Love how he's the same height as the survivor and there's clearly a struggle for survival from the survivor.
- Huntress - Powerful & bloody. Fantastic use of the weapon
- Trickster - Stylish and murderous
B Tier:
- Clown - Longest animation in the game. Love the crack sound when he stomps your head & then proceeds to cut and lick your finger whilst adding it to the collection. Clown will choose different fingers.
- Freddy - Very good use of the angle on that mori. Love the hand trough the chest and Freddy appears behind. More funny than brutal to me as in the end he proceeds to give you the Stink Eye
- Nurse - Probably the most unique animation in the game. Not much to say. Quite fitting of her lore
- Myers - Clearly shows how much stronger he is than the average survivor as he picks you up with one hand then proceeds to stab you with the other. Could be more tbh.
- Twins - Has 2 animations. One with and without Victor. Prefer the victor one. Not much to say.
C tier:
- Bubba - Good use of the weapons. Fitting for his movies.
- Doctor - Shocking, but not really. The smoke effects coming from the face seem off
- Pig - Could be better... Love how the survivor looks back and there's a little bit of struggle before the Pig slashes their neck.
- Plague - Whisper sweet strange words to me & cover me in your vomit, vommy mamm-.... hmmm, what?....A true DevianArt Fantasy right there... The mori seems weird to me, could be better. I guess, good use of the power?
- Blight - Stab me with syringe, pop balloons. I've seen some crackheads do this behind an alleyway which seemed more impressive.
- Spirit - Good use of angle I guess? Stab and scream at me. Hah... It does remind me of my ex....
D tier:
- Billy - step on someone and a scuffed chainsaw animation trough the back? Really? That's all? Why is it so long ??
- Trapper - Slash slash. That's it
- Wraith - Grabby grabby, stabby stabby. That's it. Hate the weapon sound effects.
here's mine
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@Friendly_Blendette said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/250803/killer-tier-list-but-im-rating-their-moris
Omfg the explanation are hilarious. One of the best posts I have seen on this forum. Have a potato.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/I1MZMQ61PE7T/download-281-29.jpg
bro tf is that
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double demo deathmatch
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@ryseterion said:
If the streamer is live and looks to be pretty wholesome then ill play normal. But if i see a ttv swf with flashlights saying how bad they will bully me oh boy its franklins time. No one expects a toxic demogorgon
nobody expects the demo inquisition
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I go onto stream, say hi, and then play more casually depending on if they are. I've made friends through this and it's nice for a change.
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Low B.
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@Onimain1996 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2193638#Comment_2193638
Yes, you are. She has a cooldown. Nurse has to wait 4 second if she mess her blink.
If Spirit mess her phasing, she has to wait 16s, which is very much in the current gen rush meta.
And how is a cooldown in the Genrush Meta? It doesn't make sense.
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@Onimain1996 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2193638#Comment_2193638
Yes, you are. She has a cooldown. Nurse has to wait 4 second if she mess her blink.
If Spirit mess her phasing, she has to wait 16s, which is very much in the current gen rush meta.
It's a power cooldown. It's not punishing in any way shape or form. That's a thing for every killer, so why is it a problem for Spirit? She gets no fatigue, no tell whether she's using her power if you're inside terror radius, it's stupid. Spirit does nothing when she's powered other than standing still, and Nurse inhales, which is audible from 20 or so metres away, she raises her hand, and lets out a mapwide scream telling that she's coming, with a 4 second downside for a miss. Spirit has no such thing other than her hissing, which is inaudible in chase, she's just way too easy and unpunishing. Nurse is the most punishing and painful killer to learn, and no other character is as good and easy to learn as Spirit. My 11 year old brother got Spirit and his first game was a 4k. That should tell you enough.
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Because you have to constantly lose over and over and spend ages learning to even begin to win with Nurse, especially at Red Ranks. Spirit can be learned really easily and has zero downsides to her power, other than not seeing people. It's stupid.
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@Friendly_Blendette said:
I mean if whenever I try to play a killer I want to learn or a joke build and getting 16 meta perks, lots of clicking and t bags, no downs before 3 gens pop and getting ######### by map rng. I might aswell just play ruin undying corrupt stridor spirit so I dont get ######### by map rng then tbagged at the gate.
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE! IT SAID THAT YOU WOULD DESTROY THE META-SLAVES NOT JOIN THEM! BRING BALANCE TO THE GAME, NOT LEAVE IT IN TOXICITY!
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So, if Demo is pretty versatile and can fill a few niches. But here are some overall tips.
Portal Use
You should either place portals in obscured spots behind generators so you can sneak up on people minding their business. Red moss is very good for this and can help you quite a lot. The other type is general transportation. Put these in hard to reach spots across the map and use them if you know there are people there. They are best if they are hard to find and cleanse, so put these in spots where nobody will look, like completed generators or behind walls at the edge of the map. If you don't have Rotten Pumpkin, have 4 spread across the map and 2 in your back pocket so you can place them down. If you have Rotten Pumpkin, you can place down 5 and one that is destroyed every time you use it. This can help if you have a Rat Tail as well so you can teleport as fast as possible.
Shred Use
I'll put these down as dot points, since they are quicker and easier tips.
-On TL walls, if you're going round a corner, and you know someone is going for a window, precharge shred and do it the second you're around the corner. It's a 50/50 chance whether they go for the window or not, but if they go for the window, they don't have time to fake or double back, giving you a free hit. This goes for shack as well.
-If someone is holding W heading for a pallet or window, and you're in a position so that you can't M1 Lunge them, charge a "Baby Shred", where you charge to the very minimum, so that it's essentially just a Coup lunge. You should, in most scenarios, hit them before they get to the window.
-Going against the previous tip, if you're in the open with no loops within arm's reach, they WILL expect a shred to close distance. Hold the shred for 1.5-2 seconds, and M1 if they attempt to juke. Don't spam charge as they will begin to expect it. So be unpredictable with your shreds.
-This is the most important tip, which is BE UNPREDICTABLE. Be cheeky with portals, ambush those who aren't expecting it, we confusing with your shred fakes. The most important knowledge is to know when to shred. I can't exactly tell you when is a good time, but you'll learn as you play.
Basic Builds
These are for perks ONLY. Addons are up to you, but that will be in another section.
Beginner Build
- Sloppy Butcher
- Enduring
- Surge
- Whispers
This build is for those who are new to Demogorgon and uses only Basic or Free Killer Perks.
Meta Build
- Pop Goes The Weasel
- STBFL
- BBQ And Chili
- Tinkerer
This is the general meta, and I would recommend these perks if you can't exactly figure out what to use.
Ruin Build
- Hex: Ruin
- Surge
- Tinkerer
- BBQ And Chili
If you like bringing up politics at the Thanksgiving table, this is for you.
Aggressive Build
- Enduring
- STBFL
- BBQ And Chili
- Infectious Fright
If you play a very chase-heavy playstyle, you'll like this.
Essential / Important Perks
These are perks to include in most of your personal builds that aren't listed here.
- BBQ And Chili
- Tinkerer
- Hex: Ruin
- Discordance
- STBFL
- Infectious Fright
- Corrupt Intervention
- Enduring
- Brutal Strength
- Thrilling Tremors
Addon Tier List
These are addons you should prioritise over others. 1= Highest Priority / Borderline Mandatory, 5= Never Use / Active Hinderance
1: Black Heart, Red Moss, Leprose Lichen, Barb's Glasses
2: Rotten Pumpkin, Rotten Green Tripe, Lifeguard Whistle
3: Mew's Guts, Viscous Webbing, Rat Liver, Rat Tail, Deer Lung, Eleven's Soda, Upside-Down Resin
4: Sticky Lining, Thorny Vines (2 If Used With Lifeguard Whistle), Violet Waxcap, Vermillion Webcap
5: Brass-Case Lighter, Unknown Egg
Hope all this helps!
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@Nathan13 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2193334#Comment_2193334
FYI totems now spawn in the corn not in the open.
But they're still just sitting in the open for all to see. They're entirely unreliable half the time and they need to fix it.
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I'll give you more tips in a bit, but as a template use 1 Gen Monitoring Perk (Tinkerer, Discordance, Surveillance), 1 Gen Regression Perk (Ruin, Pop, Surge, Oppression), 1 Utility Perk (BBQ, Corrupt), and STFBL. You can find different perks to suit your playstyle, but that's what I think suit Demo the best.
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they should just fix totems so they don't:
-Spawn in the open next to a tree.
-In the open in the cornfields.
-Inside shack in plain view.
-Directly next to generators.
-Or directly in the open in general.
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@Verconissp said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2181101#Comment_2181101
Also. Clown can technically Force early pallet drops and can get pallets out Waaay faster than bubba can, Demo is placed higher due to his shred potential, It's just too good to not Spam every pallet, He's severely is Underrated by the community, A good Demo is a Very Scary Demo...
so i'm... scary?
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@chargernick85 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/249196/final-4-7-0-tier-list
Can't believe I took a minute out of my life to look at this tier list. Just bogus.
Fred/bubba on the same level as Plague, Ghosty, and Mike is just dog food to me even if he is on the left of them.
Don't even get me fukin started on trick suck ahead of my piggy. Ball this list up and throw in trash.
I do like Demo's potential to be a-tier though. To be safe I say be but could def be A so I'm coo with that.
Also bro, chill out for a sec and lemme explain. Freddy's nerfed addons are absolute shite now. His spam ability of traps is limited, and he's just not as good. He's just kinda mediocre and his slowdown has been limited a whole lot. Plague is decent enough to be B-Tier, and if you can use Michael's addons to the best of his ability, it may take a while but that stuff has insane potential. Ghostface doesn't have a lot in chase but saying that he has quite decent ambush potential. Pig is a cool concept and has some decent slowdown, but if you can't bring yourself to play very dirty with her she can't do well. Playing Pig is like playing Nurse: if you can't do it right every game is a depip.
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@Reinami said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2183041#Comment_2183041
Freddy's power isn't as good as people make it out to be. Snares are good at anti-loop. But snares are just clown's bottles with extra steps. The trick to them is to drop the pallet, or leave the loop. The better trick is to find the clocks and/or constantly wake yourself and teammates up. The latest nerf to make clocks even stronger counters this. Remember, if you aren't dreaming, freddy is an m1 killer.
His other part of his power is good, which is his teleport. But the cooldown on it is quite long when you keep yourself awake. Most people don't realize that the cooldown for his teleport is extremely long, but for each survivor dreaming, he gets it 15% faster. This means if you are all asleep, yeah he is teleporting every 20 seconds. But if everyone stays awake, he has no snares, and his teleport takes a very long time to come back.
In short, you pre-drop pallets, and keep yourself awake, and he has no power. But, teleporting is still quite strong, and even though the cooldown can be made long, it is still a very powerful ability. Which is why he creeps up to high MMR viable IMO.
For huntress, she is good, but she is not able to zone out as well as deathslinger due to her hatchet windup, so it becomes a true mindgame at loops. Granted her snowball potential is far greater, she often can't use that if survivors are playing optimally (splitting up on 4 different gens).
Deathslinger on the other hand, gets to zone you by existing. A high MMR deathslinger is going to be able to aim and fire instantly and be able to pull of insane flick shots that you just can't do with huntress. On top of that, because he can aim nearly instantly, you can bait out survivors far more by just tapping the right mouse button which makes them lose distance. With huntress, as soon as you press that button, they can start juking and be assured that you can't catch up to them as well because she slows down. Deathslinger also slows down, but since his aiming is so quick it's nearly impossible to properly juke a good one.
freddy, at this point, is quite literally worse hag with mint rag
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/249409/i-did-it
I'm not sure if Im looking at a P3 demo flex. Or entering red rank flex. Either way congrats !
both, plus bbq after 40 levels
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@chargernick85 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/249196/final-4-7-0-tier-list
Can't believe I took a minute out of my life to look at this tier list. Just bogus.
Fred/bubba on the same level as Plague, Ghosty, and Mike is just dog food to me even if he is on the left of them.
Don't even get me fukin started on trick suck ahead of my piggy. Ball this list up and throw in trash.
I do like Demo's potential to be a-tier though. To be safe I say be but could def be A so I'm coo with that.
pig more like poo hahajshahahsha
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Update:
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2181047#Comment_2181047
Series X is not affected by most of the issues that the base Console are.
So no, it isn't present there.
Oh, well either way technical issues aren't really a factor in most balance aspects.
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GUYS NO MITHER IS IN SHRINE
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ARE YOU HAPPY CAUSE I AM
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2180993#Comment_2180993
His Shred freezes the game if you charge it, it's fairly well-known
it does? i'm on series x so is this not an issue there? never had it before.
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@Yords said:
Demo should be on C tier, he is meh at everything. He is just too average honestly. I have played quite a bit of demo, he has strengths and weaknesses, but nothing remarkable.
N O
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2180988#Comment_2180988
He belongs there, at least on Console.
i play him on console and i believe he's really good
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@AVoiceOfReason said:
I'm proud of you, Bro! Now go wreck some people with that beautiful creature!
(Edit: Said Beauty instead of beautiful XD)
I'm 2 pips off of Rank 4, so I'll have to!
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@Pulsar said:
Demo in C
NEVER
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If they do change her, make it so that she has a higher skill floor and ceiling like Nurse does so that they can utilise the strongest killers with more than caveman-level effort.
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@C3Tooth said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/DY5XAO2C2CV9/image.png
Im sure no word can explain this, so image.
(Red X) is trap / (Green I) is pallet
Thick line is wall, thin line is windows
oh, dope! i'll use this 100%
