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@FeminineSlime said:
It's pretty wild how they went ahead with Kate as she is when that was one of the most universal pieces of feedback on these forums I've ever seen. There were numerous topics about it and almost every single topic about the reworks mentioned how awful she was. I guess we ought to be happy that her in game animations aren't as demonic as they were on PTB at least but yeesh.
I just wanna know why they changed her from the preview. At first I thought it was just differences due to animations but when you look closer they did change her model's details.
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@MadLordJack said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388204#Comment_2388204
"Gay" is also a slur, one that I see used far more with negative connotations. If "queer" is so controversial, "gay" should set the forums on fire.
Gay is no where on the same level as qu**r
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@MadLordJack said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388204#Comment_2388204
"Gay" is also a slur, one that I see used far more with negative connotations. If "queer" is so controversial, "gay" should set the forums on fire.
Gay was never an actual slur and it was more of a light insult that hasn't been used wide spread outside of a few spots on the internet in years. Qu**r is used and always has been used as a slur for decades and is still incredibly offensive to a LOT of LGBT people. Myself and many friends included.
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@ProfoundEnding said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388082#Comment_2388082
I'm clearly in the minority here but I honestly hate that word. I've heard it used as a slur more often then not that I just want to erase it from my memory. I don't like hearing it, even when it isn't used as a slur, because it just reminds me of when it is. And yes unfortunately, it still is used that way these days.
Exactly. Just because the online LGBT community reclaims it doesn't mean IRL many do. Trust me theres so many more out there we disagree with using it especially to describe the community as a whole.
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@MadLordJack said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387500#Comment_2387500
Mmm. Kinda wish more people would use "queer".
Especially since its not just bi-erasure.
I certainly don't lol I feel like people forget Queer is still a slur and the community does exist outside the internet.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388184#Comment_2388184
It wasn't a slight change she looks completely different now you literally cannot deny that. Never did they say "We are changing Kate Denson." UNTIL they had already committed to changing her. We have a right to be angry and pissed off just like you have a right to love the new rework. Cool you like it but I and many others don't in any way!
And we agree on this point so idk what point you're making here. I've said so many times this isn't the part I'm arguing with you about.
Then why argue? What does it matter to you if I want compensation or at least SOMETHING to confirm they know how we feel thats literally all I want. Idc if I get my money back but I at least want them to actually acknowledge how we feel on the topic.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388140#Comment_2388140
Yes, I funnily enough did. I answered why I commented and countered with a question to your second.
You have no reason to value my opinion, however nobody has any reason to value yours either. That's the joys of opinions.
Because as a consumer who bought a product which was turned into something else for literally no reason I should get some form of compensation for buying a falsely advertised product.
You bought the product. You recieved the product as advertised. The devs later changed the product slightly, as you gave them consent to do as you do not own this product, but simply recieve a license to utilise it, however that doesn't change the time sunk into the product pre-change and doesn't count as false advertising.
You're grasping at so many straws here you've probably saved about 3 turtles.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388144#Comment_2388144
As I've repeated over and over in this thread already, I don't really give a ######### about your opinion on the characters. The thing I'm quote on quote "angry" about is you demanding a refund, or any form of compensation, because you don't like the product.
It wasn't a slight change she looks completely different now you literally cannot deny that. Never did they say "We are changing Kate Denson." UNTIL they had already committed to changing her. We have a right to be angry and pissed off just like you have a right to love the new rework. Cool you like it but I and many others don't in any way!
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@TragicSolitude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388084#Comment_2388084
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388085#Comment_2388085
I'm not out here trying to demand a refund, because I know we're not going to get a refund, that's wasted breath/typing. But her new face is bad, and people have every right to be unhappy with it.
Cosmetics exist for their appearance only. People buy cosmetics because of how they look. So, when the way those cosmetics look are changed, then the entire reason the person bought them has been taken away. The point of this isn't to say, "We deserve a refund." The point of this is to say that cosmetics' appearances shouldn't be heavily changed. That includes faces on head cosmetics.
Just because BHVR can change something doesn't mean they should. When something exists specifically for its appearance, and people buy it specifically for that appearance, it feels like a breach of trust when that appearance is changed post-purchase.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388086#Comment_2388086
^ This. This is what I want. I want Kate's updated face to be more similar to the original; I want it to feel like the same person. This new Kate is older and angrier and is not faithful to her original design and personality.
Worded it PERFECTLY!!!!!
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388130#Comment_2388130
A) Because you asked for a refund, and I gave an answer to that. Also to share my opinion- because hello, public gaming forum here- that it doesn't look bad.
B) Why should anyone value yours?
Now why are you so mad and angry someone doesn't like the new Kate? Did you model her yourself?
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388130#Comment_2388130
A) Because you asked for a refund, and I gave an answer to that. Also to share my opinion- because hello, public gaming forum here- that it doesn't look bad.
B) Why should anyone value yours?
You didn't answer my question lol.
Because as a consumer who bought a product which was turned into something else for literally no reason I should get some form of compensation for buying a falsely advertised product.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388120#Comment_2388120
Not relevant to my points, but it doesn't.
However this doesn't change the fact you're demanding compensation for an opinion while simultaniously saying that any opinions that disagree with yours don't count. Lmao
So if me saying Kate mains deserve compensation for our main being changed into a different character doesn't effect you
A: Why comment?
B: Why should I value your opinion?
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388067#Comment_2388067
Where's the- where's the hypocrisy??
So you don't see the hypocrisy in demanding your opinion be heard and your dislike of something compensated, while in the same breath dismissing anyone who disagrees with you? Lmfao
It's like buying a PS4 controller and receiving an xbox controller if you also have an xbox.
No, it's like buying a PS4 controller and receiving a PS4 controller. After a while this PS4 controller is upgraded to a newer model, which functions but you don't like the change, however the previous models aren't sold anymore. Is it amazing? No. Is it the end of the world and you should demand compensation from Sony? Also no.
I also don't see why people being angry over her change is such a taboo thing to you.
I'm not angry over you disliking her change. I'm "angry" over you asking for a refund and then demanding compensation over your opinion.
You're a Kate main so I don't expect Einstein but come on, this isn't that complicated.
How does me getting compensation for a change effect you in any way?
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@MeltingPenguins said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388070#Comment_2388070
as said, this is likely more a contrast problem on the textures than anything. not enough for a refund, but should be looked into
Even without a refund, I think at least shards should be given out. Kate was changed far too much to a point she looks almost nothing like her old self. She looks like shes aged and become bitter since the divorce.
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@MeltingPenguins said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388015#Comment_2388015
jill has the same issue. like, they went far too dark with the shadows for the nasolabial folds and the nasalis muscle/nostrils
I noticed they changed her. She was almost identical to how she was in RE3 in fact her DBD model had more detail. So weird they change it.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388031#Comment_2388031
Damn you really don't recognise the hypocrisy + entitlement in what you're saying?
You're a hopeless case.
And its not you recognizing a contract its you defending BHVR so hard because someone dared say something negative towards them
That's not what I'm doing, but okay. Sure, I do nothing but suck up to BHVR because blah blah blah. Countless posts and comments saying they did a horrible thing, made a horrible decision, were an awful company with like no transparancy? Don't exist daddy BHVR let me suck you more, clearly.
Genuinely, you're having a breakdown because game devs changed the appearance of a character actually grow up.
Wheres the hypocrisy? Im not having a breakdown I'm voicing a genuine complaint and criticism. We were promised one thing, spent money on said thing, and then given something entirely different. It's like buying a PS4 controller and receiving an xbox controller if you also have an xbox. Sure it'll work on your Xbox but it's not what you ordered or were promised. I don't see why thats such a hard thing to understand and I also don't see why people being angry over her change is such a taboo thing to you.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2388006#Comment_2388006
Telling me to grow up when you're just sucking up
Yes because recognising a contract = sucking up. Definitely.
Cool not talking about you I dont care about your opinions I care about the huge amount of complaints towards Kate's rework
Funny, so your opinion is the only one that's valid because you're complaining? Darling I smell some bullshit and it isn't from me.
that deserve compensation seeing as most of us wouldn't have bought or even wanted Kate if she looked how she does now.
You don't deserve anything. Stop thinking you're entitled to compensation because you don't like a design change and grow up.
I say we as ex Kate mains who hate the rework deserve compensation seeing as how our character who spent lots of money on was completely changed.
And so the ex Kate mains that like it, or the current Kate mains who like it, should be ignored in favour of the people who dislike it? Again darling there's some serious issues going on here; your argument has more holes than Swiss cheese in the middle of a mouse infestation.
Im starting to think you can't read. Kate's design wont be reverted I understand that and since its not going to we deserve compensation considering she changed so much that she is practically unrecognizable. For those who like it like you then whatever you get to keep her but for those of us who hate it and got no say in it already we deserve something for compensation. And its not you recognizing a contract its you defending BHVR so hard because someone dared say something negative towards them. Once again Idc if you like it you get to keep it Im not saying to take it away from you I'm saying for those of us that are STUCK with it and were falsely advertised a product we deserve compensation.
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@MeltingPenguins said:
The cheeks might be a bit puffy, giving her a perpetually perturbed look, but otherwise she's fine
Cheeks puffy, nose is upturned in a snobby manner, eyebrows are weirdly angled. She looks mad, old, and angry which I don't understand. Her preview looked pretty decent yet in game she looks horrible.
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@IDewDew said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387981#Comment_2387981
Ok sensitive person i can tell you're about to cry cause they changed kate and now you're mad that they don't care so just do yourself a favor and don't @ me
At least go on a real account if you're gonna try and troll.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387979#Comment_2387979
Bro can you stop ass kissing for one second and realize this is about more than just the refund?
No because I both like the redesigns for all except Dwight and recognise the legal side of it. You asked if you could get a refund, I have answered that question several times.
I do not give a ######### behind the reason why you want a refund, you cannot get a refund. End of.
its only fair to those who spent HOURS playing survivors (Especially since survivors are PURELY cosmetic) that we receive something in compensation even if its just shards
You were licensed the character, spent time with the charcter, and now the character changed. Shockingly enough that's exactly what happens in a live game.
Grow up.
Telling me to grow up when you're just sucking up "Oh well I like the rework!" Cool not talking about you I dont care about your opinions I care about the huge amount of complaints towards Kate's rework that deserve compensation seeing as most of us wouldn't have bought or even wanted Kate if she looked how she does now. How is that hard to understand? I don't care if you in specific like it or don't I am not addressing or talking to you when I say we as ex Kate mains who hate the rework deserve compensation seeing as how our character who spent lots of money on was completely changed.
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@indieeden7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387979#Comment_2387979
My guy, it's a bunch of pixels and sound files, as much as I understand that you may have preferred d Kate, at the end of the day she's a fictional character in a videogame with very little lore to her name, it isn't as deep as you're making it out to be.
It IS deep when we all spent hours playing and leveling her up specifically for her design which is now completely changed.
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@Alify said:
she looks better wdym
She looks old and angry now. If I wanted to play an old and angry survivor I'd play Bill.
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@IDewDew said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387950#Comment_2387950
Ego on dbd forums? Bro what are you smoking lol. Read my first comment because literally everything i said is a fact
Are you just a new acc made to troll and mess with people? Weird how you're new and only comment negative overly rude things.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387955#Comment_2387955
You don't care about the EULA? Do you realise how stupid that sounds??
You don't care about the legally binding contract you agreed to whenever you played Dead By Daylight? Once again may I specify legally binding contract.
You should care about the EULA because BHVR has zero obligation or reason to refund you.
This isn't even taking into account the time you spent with old Kate being worth the money.
Bro can you stop and realize this is about more than just the refund? They changed the designs of several characters that people loved and enjoyed for pretty much no reason and despite massive complaints showed no care towards what people wanted lol. Normally I can defend BHVR and their decisions but theres no reason for the survivor model changes to be so drastic and its only fair to those who spent HOURS playing survivors (Especially since survivors are PURELY cosmetic) that we receive something in compensation even if its just shards. Anything to show at least a little bit of "Sorry we screwed you over."
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387910#Comment_2387910
This is what you agreed to when you first opened Dead By Daylight. You cannot get a refund for your purchases as outlined in Section 5 of the EULA, and BHVR has the right to change whatever aspect of their product that they like without liability nor the obligation to offer a refund.
Again, read the EULA.
Idc abt the EULA point still stands we deserve compensation.
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@IDewDew said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387917#Comment_2387917
Yes im being rude because im speaking facts i guess the truth hurts sometimes. Some of the people on the forums need to stop being so sensitive it's sad
You're not speaking facts just trying to be rude because idk ego maybe?
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@TragicSolitude said:
Kate's face is a huge downgrade to say the least. It makes me very sad.
I'll probably mostly be using Leon, now.
Yeah I've mained her since her release. Now she just looks so gross and different. Like a bitter old woman wearing a young womans body as a disguise lol. So much wasted time :(
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@IDewDew said:
Nahh read the EULA they don't owe you anything and won't tefund you even if you begged tough luck
Every time you've spoken on the forums its to be rude lol.
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@ukenicky said:
Yeah I'm not gonna be playing her as much anymore she looks really weird now é3è
Idk who to use now on survivor side
Thank god for Yun-Jin I guess. Thats who I moved too lol
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387898#Comment_2387898
Yes, the PTB section for the PTB. And she has gotten changes since the PTB, which is why I now don't see the issue.
Also, they've done refunds before
One time.
Only one refund has been given out ever to my knowledge, and it was for the Leon and Jill Very Rare skins, which became a set shortly after release (having been released unlinked).
Yes as compensation for buying something that was falsely promised. I bought Kate's cosmetics because I thought I'd get to use them on Kate Denson a happy cheery young country girl. Instead Kate was murdered and her evil step mother Gertrude took her place and now I'm stuck with wasted money, shards, time, and BP :/
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
I don't see the issue?
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/EWJUA9N0NFTZ/image.png
And with your comment on a refund
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2387825#Comment_2387825
She literally looks like an angry 50 year old lol did you not see the MASSIVE backlash in the PTB feedback section when it was first revealed lol. Also, they've done refunds before and now seems like a perfectly fine time or at least compensation considering they completely changed a characters face. I paid for Kate Denson not Gertrude Haginson.
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Play it A LOT. I hate the fandom its full of teenage girls who over fetishize everything tbh and almost everyone is toxic ｅｓｐｅｃｉａｌｌｙ ｉｎ ｈｉｇｈｅｒ ｒａｎｋｓ． （Ｎｏｔ ｓｕｒｅ ｗｈｙ ｍｙ ｆｏｎｔ ｃｈａｎｇｅｄ ｈｅｌｐ）
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@WexlerWendigo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2381755#Comment_2381755
Yes please, what a horrible map. Breakable walls every corner, exclusively unsafe pallets, half the map is a dead zone, bad gen placements, etc. Awful map
Hate this map with a passion. Half of it is nothing the other half is beyond broken tiles that're bandaid remedied with breakable walls. sometimes 3 gens which killers need to go far out of their way to get to 2 of which have instant escape routes to make distance. Not to mention its just a bad theme in general. Really needs a gutting and change.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
I much prefer the idea of just deleting all map offerings in general. ######### that one double range Nurse on Saloon with Infectious, and ######### the quad Balanced Landing SWF on Haddonfield.
While we're at it, we can delete Haddonfield, Midwich, Saloon, RPD, etc, and just pretend nobody will notice.
Leave Midwich alone its just a baby :(
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Ramen lol
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2379939#Comment_2379939
Let me know when you get to college and need to code and run computer simulations at home. My PC is one of the best out of everyone who had to do the same and it still took several hours to finish the simulations. Hell, some took more than a day. With a 100 USD laptop, you'd be lucky to get it done in a week.
And "a lot of companies" would just as easily tell you to get your own PC, because you are expected to have one, like most humans on the planet. If you're doing scientific research, for instance, you can pretty much count on not getting a PC, at least in my country.
Bro ofc you need a better PC when your job or specific section of schooling requires it lol. Stop trying to seem cool on DBD forums its weird as hell to brag that you have enough money to afford a high end gaming PC lol. Bro most jobs aren't gonna require to run code and computer simulations stop acting like thats an everyday problem.
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@EldritchElise87 said:
If anything it should have a slightly longer distance but remove iframes. If you couldn't DH into walls and dropped pallets to just phase through a hit it would feel a lot more fair from the killer side, and mean the survivor has to have space in front of them to actually dodge the hit.
Id rather rip my own hair out and eat it then BUFF dead hards distance when one of its main complaints is that its used for distance
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2379934#Comment_2379934
I run DbD with everything maxed out, and you'd still need a PC even with a console. You spend more money by buying a work PC and a console than by just getting a gaming PC that can also be used for work.
I play on PC and console and bro I used to use a $100 laptop for all my work and school for YEARS that would still only be $600 plus a lot of companies that actually require you to use a PC will provide you with a chromebook or somethin
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@KateDunson said:
You should have bought a pc instead of a ps5, and you are even complaining that keyboard/mouse wont work anytime soon, i mean, u knew it so thats what you get
"Spend $1000 to get a PC to run DBD on low graphics instead of buying an actual gaming system that runs every other game under the sun at 60FPS."
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@indieeden7 said:
I'd rather get Maria and Angela first, Cynthia was a pretty bland character, I feel as thoughher death was just used to explain how the otherworld worked in SH4.
Same but its always nice to imagine and speculate.
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@[Deleted User] said:
Maria is the better
True and we'd most likely get Maria first (which I'd prefer) however I also want Cynthia since she's in my top 5 characters from Silent Hill!
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@Clowning said:
Finally, a character with a well-rounded personality.
Probably but hey money is money. Plus she seems capable of defending herself I mean she survived on her own for quite some time and fought back against Walter when he attacked her.
(SPOILERS!)
Plus I feel like her depressing death made a lot more people like her for her character.
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@Phasmamain said:
Crouch walking only gets you so far since the hag can the n go back to hook while you’re moving at like 30% speed.
All she needs is some add on adjustments and some anti camping measures. @Michi has a great idea to fix her camping issue
Bro a good Hag won't camp and a camping Hag is already a bad Hag since shes wasting traps protecting a hook she could use to remove a problematic loop later.
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Would be better if they didn't just give out the rift cosmetics in the shop later :/
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Something similar to Naiad or soul weaver from Identity V. Naiad's power of entrapping and enclosing survivors is very interactive and engaging while Soul Weavers ability to cut off sections of the map and make loops lethal while boosting her own movement speed is so much fun.
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I still call them Koko and Jared
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Cheryl always looked horrible :/
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@Volfawott said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2368272#Comment_2368272
Well it's pretty cool much confirmed in the ending of Silent Hill 3 that she goes back to Cheryl because she has no need to be Heather anymore.
Also that she dyes her hair blonde
I mean blondes do have more fun
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@beatddb said:
Anyone knows why did they change her design? I still think her original model would've looked way better in game than the one they used
Who's?
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@brokedownpalace said:
I'm surprised they haven't done a SH nurse cosmetic for Nurse tbh
I think they haven't since it wouldn't fit Nurse's power or floating.
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I mean I don't use either too often I switch up my build a lot. I've never actually used Stridor on Spirit though so it doesn't affect me all too much I just love my spooky girl and hope the devs don't kill her off