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  • She will be played using a 3 gen strategy only.. Yay..

  • @HamsterEnjoyer said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3354405#Comment_3354405

    Tricksters lore is just "I left my band mates to die in a fire then got an obsession with killing because of it." Which is...really weird and doesn't make sense at all. Deathslingers I always forget cause it's kinda a snoozefest like his design

    I'll hand it to you. The first time I read Trickster's lore, I was taken back, but then I read it again and saw new meaning in it and looking at him in game it really does make sense and I thought it wasn't as bad as my first take. I have tried this a bunch with ...The Skull Merchant.. and her lore... I just can't.. Compared to her.. Trickster and EVEN Legion's lore are masterpieces. Hers is just so damn bad, nothing can compare to it.. :/

  • @Brokenbones said:

    Unironically a better design

    Well done if you are the one who made this, if not please give us the artist

    Had a friend send this to me. No idea though. ? o.O ?

  • @HamsterEnjoyer said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3354319#Comment_3354319

    Her lore is laughable yet legion, trickster, and deathslinger exist

    I don't think Trickster/Deathslinger's lore stories are laughable at all. I'll give you Legion. I usually excuse Legion as its an "unintentional way" for us to have movies like Purge represented in DBD.

  • @jesterkind said:

    How does this better evoke her concept at all? A character like this wouldn't be hiding anything, she certainly wouldn't be able to conduct her business as usual between hunts.

    There's nothing inherently wrong with this design, of course, but it'd require a wildly different character concept to go with it.

    This version of her evokes more "horror" than BHVR's version. Killer's should be scary. Whether it come from visuals, lore, or game play, and I think most players get none of that when they look at her.. Let's be honest, her current design has a very minor cult following at best..

  • The game has crashed for me many times since the last update. And it will ONLY crash while in a game. I have never had DBD crash before the most recent patch... :/

  • @Krazzik said:

    Who's that on the right? It's not Kate surely. Jane?

    It honestly looks like Jane in the face.

  • @kk602 said:

    Don't you think this is funny?

    =========================

    Survivor Additional Standard Features

    ●Icons let you know what other players are doing

    ●Can withstand damage for several minutes after being rescued

    ● In the future, it will be possible to wake up from a down state in seconds

    -----------------------------

    Killer additional standard features

    No special additions to standard features Good luck lol

    Sorry but if you think these changes did ANYTHING to solo players, you are lost.

  • @Chocolate_Cosmos said:

    Everyone plays Spirit again! Her pickrate must have skyrocketed since I see them offten now.

    Before it was maybe 1 Spirit per 20+ games. Now Its like 1 per 6+ games.

    Isn't not because people realised she is bugged, right??? Hehey right?!!!

    Most of them are not even using the new outfit either. I've said for a long time that Spirit is piss easy to do well with. Playing something like Hillybilly in comparison gives a night and day difference. Spirit is just easy to get results with. Seems like more people are realizing that.

  • Just run Save The Best For Last. That way you only have to worry about the Obsession slowing your hits down. As you gain stacks, missing or hitting a non Obsession Survivor will be faster even if they Dead Hard. Getting more stacks pays off as the game goes on regardless of hits and misses.

  • @Iron_Cutlass said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3351084#Comment_3351084

    I agree with the Billy statement specifically. I really feel like people understate how difficult Billy is to learn and people often saying Huntress is the hardest but I learn more towards Billy being the hardest Killer in the game just from how punishing they are.

    You miss with Huntress, you have 4 other shots left (even more with addons). You miss a swing with Blight, youll have your power back in 10 seconds (or less with addons). You miss with Spirit, well you still gained a lot of distance on the Survivors.

    However if you miss with Billy, prepare for a really long cooldown (even with addons), combine this with the fact that you can cancel your chainsaw and still hit an object because the collision zone still exists AFTER canceling (thus making you go through two cooldown periods). Billy is an absolute mess (and I still adore him).

    You hit it right on the nose. I also understand if certain characters are hard for some and not others, but literally the handful of people I had try Spirit early said they loved how much easier she was than when they played Trapper and Hillbilly. They also didn't like the slow cloak/uncloak of Wraith, so when I thought of how fast Wraith's movement is, I told them, "Okay, try out Spirit." They loved her. She is a great Killer to start with. You really don't need headphones and all that jazz to track with her. That is an over assumption that many people have.

    Starting with Hillbilly and wanting to use the power and have fun though is extremely rough as more often than not you won't "easily" get used to the "acquired taste" his chainsaw rush has.

  • @MegMain98 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3351173#Comment_3351173

    I never had an issue with Spirit but that’s because I’ve mained her ever since her release back in 2018, I had prior experience with the general killer gameplay, and I played release Spirit when barely anyone knew how to counter her. So I don’t know why you’re making assumptions…

    Nowadays, picking Spirit as your FIRST killer main when everyone knows her gameplay and without prior knowledge and experience when playing killer seems like a disaster. A simple killer like Wraith where the survivors can’t stealth you and you still learn the basic killer gameplay seems like the way to go. Spirit thrives when you already know how to play a basic killer and have that foundation :/

    She may thrive after that, but she is still piss easy to get 1st game wins with.

  • @MegMain98 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3351084#Comment_3351084

    Spirit’s not even a good killer to start with, why would recommend her to people just starting the game?

    She requires you to know how to track using your ears more than your eyes. Most newer killer players can’t even track scratch marks and follow basic survivor movement. It took me a good week or so to even know what scratch marks were doing back in 2018.

    She’s a 110% killer who relies heavily on her power that requires you to know how to track survivors which newer players simply don’t know how to do especially if the survivor isn’t injured.

    Best killers to start with are Trapper, Wraith, Legion, etc…not Spirit.

    Spirits great. They all agreed after picking her is the funny thing. Said she was easy to learn and get kills with. We are of course speaking about "AVERAGE" Survivors per my original post. Sounds like an issue on your side if you had trouble with her early on against mediocre people.

  • @ProudRinMain said:

    Not really, Spirit is one of the most skill-requiring killers to play as in dbd. So don’t get discouraged if people seem to attribute your wins with a certain killer to something. If she’s a killer you enjoy playing as, keep on doing it!

    I wouldn't say Spirit requires as much skill as a Hillbilly. Spirit is often who I recommend to friends just starting Killer as you can learn her basics much faster and you don't bang your head into a wall as much trying to get the power to pay off, similar to someone like Hillbilly. More often than not you can just use her power on a YOLO and you find someone.


    It really isn't too skill intensive to play her at a decent level. I think many people overestimate how hard she is to play. She is much easier to chase with in comparison to any other Killer without a teleport honestly. I agree at the higher level of course, but against "average" Survivors (which is the majority of the DBD community), you can play Spirit pretty badly and still come out on top simply due to how much ground she gains when in her power.

  • @supersonic853 said:

    Ive been spending the time to learn her as a console player. Ive gotten pretty good at her and can go against good survivors pretty easily. But a good bit of the time im told "wow, congrats, you have good headphones" or stuff like that. Kinda makes me feel like the time spent to learn her is kinda insulted and pushed down to that. Do you think she's very easy? Like i know shes no nurse but she was fairly difficult when i started.

    I would say Spirit is in the top 8 easiest to win as, when going against average Survivors.

    Blight, Pinhead, Spirit, Leatherface, Wesker, Clown, Pyramid Head, and Artist seem to be the easiest to get wins with out of the cast from my testing. Many of these 8 you really don't even have to know that much about the power. You can play most of these as an amateur and more often than not succeed.

  • @Wexton said:

    I really just want shadowborn to be basekit for killer or for there to just be an fov slider, the game looks way better with it. And I don't want to have to waste a perk slot on something that should be in the settings.

    This should've been a thing a long time ago.. The FoV is terrible.. If BHVR doesn't want to give us a slider..fine.. Just make Shadowborn base kit and change the perk to something else... :/

  • @Canas said:

    She supposedly already had a semi-rework and now her map is getting a makeover and yet the killer who's behind all of this still has no own chase theme. This makes no sense. BHVR has given almost everyone their own tune so far with the sole exception of oldschool killers like Trapper, Wraith and Huntress.

    Has BHVR run out of ideas for her? If you're looking for inspiration try to listen to THIS:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyk4a8tq31E&ab_channel=JonRob

    Hopefully they give her a theme with some like "ancient times" type sounding effects in it.

  • @fratto said:

    For me this is lookin like a pass, genuinely a very underwhelming chapter in almost every way.

    I’m genuinely more keen for eruptions incapacitated removal than the the new chapter itself. The perks seem to just encourage farming your teammates and tunneling, Killer seems to just be a 3 gen. I pray there is an excuse for this quality

    But it’s okay, I’m sure we were deprived of content this update because anniversary has something good planned… Right? …right?

    HEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO!!! That better?

  • @SweetTerror said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3349409#Comment_3349409

    Personally I don't know what the "leaks" are, but Paulie said in his YouTube video that there were many leaks that may or may not have cost BHVR the Prey license. Because at the end of the day, Prey definitely makes A LOT of sense in regards to what this chapter was probably supposed to be.

    Ya and I suppose it was either this chapter or the Knight chapter being For Honor originally. Either way something bad, not sure what, happened from within the company recently for this house of cards to come crumbling down..

  • @Stroggz said:

    Killswitch chapter, introduce chapter called "game health" and nerf pig and dead hard.

    Bingo!

  • They took their time....... and ended up with THIS? O.o Now that would surprise me..

  • @Bwsted said:

    If it wasn't rushed, then it's even more disappointing.

    This guy gets it.

  • @axonn360 said:

    I honestly wasn't expecting to see the such negative reception the new killer is getting. From what I can gather a lot of it has to do with a perceived bad design, peoples expectations being way too high, and supposedly bad gameplay. Has any other killer received this type of attention in the past? I'm fairly new to the DBD community so a lot of this discourse is new to me.

    At this point in DBD's life cycle..if they make a Killer with elements that obviously pull from something licensed..they will naturally get more hate. If you are going to copy anything so obvious from an existing franchise...at least make it amazing... This lady is meh at best and just looks so stupid... No appeal whatsoever.. Not to mention, it's just Tricksters face recycled... Lazy..

  • These characters are going to be technically "free" anyway due to this being an OG chapter. Just save up Iri Shards until you can get all of them. I'm not wasting a penny on it, that's for sure. It'll be nice to have them give us more for less for once. Fine with me.

  • @Count_Dooki said:

    I want to emphasize that what I’m about to express isn’t intended to come across as mean or disrespectful, but I am a believer in brutal honesty and constructive criticism.

    After reading the killer’s lore I was absolutely surprised at how generic The Skull Merchant’s lore is, but if generic was simply the only issue I could’ve let it slide. However, not only is the story generic, but the character’s don’t make any sense and had a lot of missed opportunities for good story.

    The killer’s motivation for why they do what they do and why they are the way they are just makes no sense. Its not believable or relatable. Even the way the style is written just reads…off. It feels more like a fan fiction rather than a professionally written story.

    Now if it were up to me I wouldn’t scrap everything about the story. As I said it has potential, there were just many missed/underutilized opportunities. If I had to come up with a fix off the top of my head, I would have had the story play out in a way where the killer pulls her family out of poverty, nearly graduates from a prestigious academy, and yet she still doesn’t get the love/recognition she craves from her family. Her innovation is driven by a desire for recognition from her loved ones.

    They could have done something with the story where The Skull Merchant becomes a self made billionaire and is incredibly intelligent, yet her father doesn’t even recognize her accomplishments. Never once did he ever tell her “I’m proud of you” or even a “good job”. Choosing to focus on his manga and other hobbies. Making her think she just isn’t good enough for the family despite all of her deeds in pretty much carrying the family on her shoulders. Thrusting her insecurity and self-esteem into madness. Pushing herself into literally trying to “fix” herself by doing technological/mechanical implants.

    Heck, they could have swapped the father figure for an older brother. Playing on the theme that the two survivor’s we got are siblings.

    I am by no means a professional writer or even a skilled one, but I think every individual here could have come up with better lore in less than 24 hrs then what we ended up getting.

    I know you can come up with some amazing stories BHVR. You guys are the ones who made stories for Oni, Plague, Ghostface (DBD), and Doctor. You guys have the potential in your writing team! I know you can be better! Which is why I am so bamboozled by what we have just recently gotten in terms of lore.

    Maybe I’m alone on this, but it definitely sucks we’ll have to wait for another tome just to see if this lore can be polished. A real shame man.

    Of course it is.. It was an excuse to cover up the chapter we were originally going to get.. You don't accidentally make "lore" that bad for a character unless you are like 12 years old.. This is just another BHVR scenario where they couldn't hide the mess that was made behind the scenes..

  • Ya Paulie AND King are bashing it like it rightfully should be imho.. Kind of nice to see them telling people like it is instead of sugarcoating anything and everything like Otz does constantly. Predator will never be in the game now.. :/ Nothing like a few bad apples ruining it for ever single other person in the class..

  • @Emoba said:

    Pulling off your license just because of the possibility that it could get leaked seems so... dumb? No idea why would you cancel your collab at last minute just for that. I wonder if that's the reason why BHVR finally decided to do something about their mole after all this time.

    Yep but it happens.. sadly. The people will never actually know, but I promise you these types of things are covered up nonstop behind the scenes.

  • Bingo... 2 big Fog Whisperers talking straight down to this chapter.. Predator will never be in the game now.. :/ Nothing like a few bad apples ruining it for ever single other person in the class..

  • Most people seem to agree that the following Chapters were very lackluster upon reveal. Legion, Trickster, and ....the skull... merchant.. :/ They just don't reach as broad of an audience as I'm sure BHVR hoped they would..

  • @Thusly_Boned said:

    To go quality over quantity?

    I have long been very forgiving and positive about new releases, and have been a fan of content that hasn't been the most popular.

    That said, this new chapter feels more like a rushed placeholder than fully designed content, for a myriad of reasons that are being discussed in detail. It's paper thin.

    With both the killer and survivor rosters already robust and only getting bigger, would it make sense to reduce the number of annual releases? It has often been proposed to skip a chapter in favor of "game health" updates, but I am thinking just permanently reducing to 2-3 new chapters a year simply to spend more time on them.

    I look at this chapter as something we absolutely didn't need; releasing content for the sake of it.

    Yes. Absolutely! They could've canceled this Chapter altogether to give us straight "game health" updates for the next few months, and I wouldn't have batted an eye..

  • @Robotfangirl67 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3348342#Comment_3348342

    I know and yeah I agree this whole thing did indeed seem strange to say the least. But the Predator could happen one day. I mean I agree the leak problem is still being resolved and yeah they did kind of messed themselves a little bit for sure. But they also did tried not to leak as much and give more opportunities for everyone to come up with more theories.

    We can only hope.. First impressions are usually the most important so if you mess that up, you may not get another shot..

  • @Dbdfan398 said:

    1. Theyre out of ideas, and genuinely dont know what to do around the current parameters of the game. Problem is the solution to this is entirely new game modes and goals, then you can base the killers / survivors around that. Its like they can only design killers around letters a and b, and the way the games designed it doesnt allow them to consider the rest of the alphabet
    2. This is going to be a MASSIVE / awesome anniversary event and theyre saving the big load for that.

    I wonder if the game was next gen only and pcs ( so ssds only ) if the game could have new features and modes they cant do on a HDD. Imagine if for example the SSD allowed freddy to have a true dream world. Or a killer that makes each survivor see a different map / version of the map

    They got blasted by Disney for letting so much information about their future Chapters leak, that Disney said, "Fine, we aren't giving you Predator if you can't even keep it secret!" I bet you any amount of money that's what happened. xD Pretty funny. Nothing like shooting yourself in the foot.

  • Paulie is 100% correct. The community that plays Dead by Daylight has always been much smarter than even they give themselves credit for. Kudos to him for putting this more out in the open. This was an obvious last minute cover up. Anybody that cannot see through that is lost.. I hate to say it but looks like we will never get a Predator chapter.. The amount of information that has been leaked over the past few years by BHVR themselves did them in on this one... :/

  • @ProfessorDunwich said:

    I think so. Killer’s visuals are awful (looks like Fornite, Apex etc). Power encourages camping gens, 3 gens in particular. I do not think time will help. I doubt the consensus on the visuals and power will change.

    Red Forest is amazing.... The new Killer is just niche though.. Very underwhelming.. :( I just hope the Anniversary Chapter makes up for this one..

  • @dspaceman20 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3339271#Comment_3339271

    Yeah fear is subjective and what's scary to someone else may not be scary to me. I get this. I'm not even saying the dolls are or aren't scary. I think it possibly could work. Just not Chucky.

    If it was anyone else then Yeah but Chucky has lost all its scare factorr to be horror anymore. It's a comedy now imo.

    But hey if you want Chucky or Chucky like killer in the game then to each their own. I would much rather prefer an original doll killer then a licensed one

    I also wouldn't mind an original doll Killer. :) Just give us a damn doll!

  • @Sonzaishinai said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3339220#Comment_3339220

    With all the voodoo stuff he has it really wouldn't be hard. The Twins could have 100% been Chucky and Tiffany. so it's certainly possible

    The biggest and only problem chucky probably has is getting the licence tbh.

    That's what I was thinking as well. Chucky would be quite a bit of work indeed. Plenty of new map options, he would need to be voiced by Brad Dourif for one liners of course (just like Pinhead has his voices), and they'd obviously have to make specific mechanics/animations so that he can interact correctly with everything. Chucky will definitely be quite a hurdle I'd imagine.

  • @Xendritch said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3339236#Comment_3339236

    If we're invoking Cote he was pretty down on Chucky last anything was said. "Would you really wanna play as Victor the entire match?" Was how he put it.

    He may have said that, but I bet you anything Chucky's name is on that short list Cote always talks about as well. I'd say after Jason makes it in, everyone is going to have eyes directly on Chucky. No matter how long it takes, I can see it happening down the line. Will FNAF happen before Chucky? That is the big question. I'd like both so whichever comes first, I'll welcome it.

  • @dspaceman20 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3339260#Comment_3339260

    I actually think tricksters ascetic works. I think it more plays into the fear of things that are seemingly innocent when things are actually more darker. It explorse the idea that you don't really know a person's true colors.

    With Chucky he is a well know horror icon I guess. But to me I never really look at Chucky and be scared I more remember him because he is funny not scary. Chucky and the whole series is more a comedy then a horror. But that's just my opinion

    You aren't afraid of dolls, I get it. Lots and lots and lots of other people are. So.. yep. What is scary or aesthetically horror captivating to you may not be to others.

  • @dspaceman20 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3339252#Comment_3339252

    Sure there are some comical and unrealistic elements in the game but it's not to a big extent.

    In my opinion comical horror should not be in the game at all unless it overwhelmingly has horror elements like ash vs evil dead.

    It's like having leprechaun in the game its so lame. But to each their own I guess

    The very first 3 Child's Play films are pure horror. There is very little, if any, comedic value. Watch those again sometime. It's very easy to forget that after watching the newer movies. :) I also wouldn't count any of Chucky's one liners as comedy. It's simply his way of expressing himself as an evil human being.

  • @dspaceman20 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3339245#Comment_3339245

    I guess.

    Personally it would be way to comical to take seriously.

    The survivors would just kick the doll lol

    I agree it would of course be more comical, but to me personally, someone like the Trickster is extremely comical. I get that some people like him but to me he just seems very silly, lackluster, and unappealing tbh.

    To each their own I suppose. I am looking at it more from the simple fact that someone like Chucky is an icon and has an entire legacy all his own, so I highly doubt the majority would have a problem seeing him confirmed.

  • @dspaceman20 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3339236#Comment_3339236

    Again lore wise it doesn't really make sense. How exactly will he pick him up that is consistent with his lore? Pinhead works because it's consistent and makes sense it that he can control the hooks to do actions even if he doesn't do it in the franchise.

    Lore wise he could easily drag the Survivor wherever or even use a voodoo doll of that Survivor to force them to move however he wants and/or do whatever he wants. Also BHVR could literally do their own thing by making hooks come down to his level and "WHAM", Survivor is hooked. Saying any Killer couldn't happen is way too pessimistic unless its like Godzilla or Bugs Bunny then sure.. they can't happen.

    But "LORE WISE" yes, Chucky would work just fine. Regardless of if you personally like it or not, it can happen. Just like FNAF will happen eventually as well. *ducks for cover*

  • @dspaceman20 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3339236#Comment_3339236

    Again lore wise it doesn't really make sense. How exactly will he pick him up that is consistent with his lore? Pinhead works because it's consistent and makes sense it that he can control the hooks to do actions even if he doesn't do it in the franchise.

    Lore wise he could easily drag the Survivor wherever or even use a voodoo doll of that Survivor to force them to move however he wants and/or do whatever he wants. Also BHVR could literally do their own thing by making hooks come down to his level and "WHAM", Survivor is hooked. Saying any Killer couldn't happen is way too pessimistic unless its like Godzilla or Bugs Bunny then sure.. they can't happen.

    Again "LORE WISE" Chucky would work just fine. Regardless of if you personally like it or not, it can still happen lol... Just like FNAF will happen eventually as well. *ducks for cover*

  • @dspaceman20 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3339221#Comment_3339221

    It would have to make sense lore wise as well. Chucky doesn't have any magical powers to teleport survivors to hooks or cages.

    It would look way yo comical too.

    The reason why sadako works is because she is basically psychic. It makes sense with her lore.

    You sound pretty confident it'll never happen. Sounds like you are more uninformed than anything. Even Mathieu Cote himself said in an interview. Chucky would work just fine in terms of hooking and carrying a Survivor. So...yes Chucky would work. Pinhead never puts his arm in the DBD "carry" pose a SINGLE TIME in the entire Hellraiser franchise and yet he does it in this game.. Not very true to the characters mannerisms, but again its still in the game.. Chucky would be no different.

    They'll put him in eventually even if to just shut down all that "he's too small' BS.

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