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@MegsAreEvil said:
yeah, thats how the game works. i dont understand why perks arent designed too good at start, so you can tweak them down slowly til perfection. Like theyre now, you just have too rework them hard to get any good use out of them. their design might be nice to have, buts thats all. there needs to be a whole chapter for perk reworks (also on killer side) SOON.
If a perk is too good at the start it gets obliterated like MoM was.
Survivors can't win either way it seems.
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If i see a new player i usually tunnel them to get them out of the game fast so they can spectate the more seasoned survivor players play and maybe learn something.
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@lazytension said:
I really want to hear how you guy's feel, but I genuinely feel that the Devs are biased towards killers, very much so. I see survivor perk after survivor perk (especially DS) being nerfed but I hardly ever see any killer perks being nerfed. Or, if anything, a killer perk might be adjusted ever so slightly. OR, whenever they release a new killer, it takes them a significant amount of time before nerfing the killer's movements all together completely ruining any motivation to play against that specific killer (I'm talking about you, Ghostface).
But that's just me.. :)
Its guaranteed all 6 new survivor perks in this new dlc will be complete garbage that nobody will use while the killer gets at leaast 1 good and 2 mediocre ones.
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@Speshul_Kitten said:
Be prepared/expect changes to happen to the powers and abilities of the Killer AND the perks of the Survivors.
We have seen this happen with Freddy and the Ash DLC.
I will personally wait about 2 weeks before investing anymore interest into these DLC’s. So please just a fair warning if you plan on making a post about changes to the DLC later on.
Not going to purchase the dlc at all so no worries.
either all survivor perks are trash garbage that you will never use like 99% of perks released since laurie.
or they will let 1 or 2 usable perks (1 per surv?) stay long enough for enough ppl to buy the dlc and then they nerf it.
so why bother
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@snowflake102 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/636901#Comment_636901
It's been the same amount of players since I started playing in 2016.
Also when did you start playing 2018?
That is false though, 2018 was the best year population wise for dbd overall.
2019 so far has seen the highest momentarily spike but also its going way down now than previous year.
So if the game is fine, why is it losing playerbase?
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@snowflake102 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/81868/i-miss-playing-this-game
It's in a fine state:D yea there's some bugs and other stuff that needs fixing like disconnecting.:(
But other then that. It's in a fine state:) Also good luck and have fun in your future games.
Also quick tip if you want to get back to rank 10 then just camp over and over until your at your rank:)
If it was in a fine state more pople would play the game yeah?
If it was in a balanced state why are even less people playing now?
Truth is the game is not fine or balanced very well = less players.
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Its in a very bad state, shown by the lack of player growth and stale meta perks.
For a long time now there has been a slow decline in viable survivor perks and now killer mains push for adrenaline to get nerfed as well now that Mettle of Man got made unusable.
Killer perks on the other hand are mostly as strong as they always been, u usually stick with the 2-3 same perks and have 1 rando if u wana spice things up.
But devs are absolutely catering to killers this year and it shows.
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@SoylentPixie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/635033#Comment_635033
Actually, after looking at these posts and your previous post declaring that NOED is killing this game (with no proof or data to back you up) I believe that you are the minority in this case.
A top streamer having an opinion, does not make that opinion more important or right. An opinion is subjective, it only matters more if it is the same as yours. Are you likely to change your mind because a streamer with more viewers has an opposing opinion?
Also whether anyone wants to partner with a streamer, does not validate their opinions. Unless they are streaming something offensive and potentially harmful to their business, a company will throw their lot in with anyone who can draw more customers in. It's not a mark of their opinions relevancy, it's to do with revenue.
Popularity does not equate to being right. It's simply one voice with a talent for entertainment. (For some)
Not more right.
More important for sure. As youre able to influence more ppl using your platform.
And there are lots of evidence, game was more popular in 2018. Showing a decline in players.
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@ClogWench said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/634967#Comment_634967
I'm sorry you think that makes a person's opinion important.
It is pretty much agreed upon by most people, you're the one in the minority here.
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@ClogWench said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/634918#Comment_634918
If you cant grasp the concept that your opinion being heard more doesn't make it more important, then you're clearly beyond reason. Have fun idolizing regular people with some notion that they're more important.
Ok let me know when EA knocks on your door wanting to partner with you and shower you with money to play their games for your audience.
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@Mochan said:
No.
NoEd has been around since Day 1.
It is not what's causing any kind of exodus of players. (which I do not see to be honest number of people playing is still within expectations)
(expectations)
You said so yourself, there is an exodus going on. 2018 was a better year overall so far. And my theory is noed is to blame.
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@ClogWench said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/634358#Comment_634358
Reaching a wider audience doesn't mean your opinion is worth more, it means your opinion is heard more. They mean very different things. Streamers are paid for ads because they're influential and it's an easy way to target select audiences. That's not the same as ones opinion being worth more. At the end of the day they're just people playing a video game. It doesn't make them better at the game and it doesn't make them know more.
Reaching a wider audience does make your opinion worth more. Because it is heard more.
It is literally why high viewer count streamers get paid more then those with less viewers.
It doesnt matter if they are good or not at any particular game, your avg joe dont have their platform thus he is worth less compared to someone who has the ability to reach thousands, if not tens of thousand of ppl at the same time.
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@Just_Playing said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/81626/noed-is-killing-this-game
Are you serously ? NOED IS KILLING THE GAME? ok but things like genrush, instaheals,keys or moris (that are stronger then noed. Noed is easy too counter) are not the problem?
Yes.
100% NOED is detrimental to the health of the game.
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@ClogWench said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/633620#Comment_633620
A thousand times this. I can't begin to count the amount of times I see someone praise a YouTuber as if their outlook or opinion means more.
Their opinions do mean more than your avg joe.
They reach more people then your avg joe.
They are able to influence more people than avg joe.
Why are streamers paid for ads again (playing certain games) ? and youtubers, their opinions matters more.
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@snowflake102 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/633891#Comment_633891
I been playing since 2016 buddy. And I tell you yea they lost some players but you got to know school is going to start soon. And this game goes up and down with players same with other games
It keept going down even when ppl were not on school though so ppl returning wouldnt matter much.
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@snowflake102 said:
It's not dying. Buddy
compared to previous year dbd it is going downhill. now why do u think that is
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@YaiPa said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/630423#Comment_630423
Moris cannot be found in chests, keys are hard to see in the lobbies while moris clearly appear in the loading screen, if you easily win a match as survivor you keep the key, while you waste the mori if you're the killer, keys have addons to save from losing them, to use moris at least you have to won chases and if you want to tunnel you'll to deal with bt, ds, bodyblocks and so on, to use keys just press one button to get your free escape even after playing badly, starting egc isn't a counter either, since survivor can still reopen the hatch.
No way moris are stronger than keys.
Moris are way stronger.
Tunnel 1 guy at the start of the match and its all ready over for survs. A key don't change that or have anywhere close to the same impact on a game.
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@YaiPa said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/629434#Comment_629434
Moris have a counter, simply don't go down, not sarcastic that's it. If the survivor are good enough they can win against a mori. Yet, even if they cuck themselves up with a three gen situation, they can still get their sweet second chance and win the game, and differently from moris, they don't have to bring keys in the match, so that the opponent know what he's facing, they can find it randomly.
And keys have a counter: simply kill all survivors before they get to see hatch.
Mori is way stronger than a key though.
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@Carpemortum said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/628023#Comment_628023
I'm not gatekeeping hon, I never said someones opinion was invalid or even implied that they shouldnt be allowed to enjoy it.
My comment was based on how everyone assumes the only reason Ash was ever bought, was for MoM. In which I called out that that point of view simply shows how heavily someone relies on perks to actually do well In the game.
Not once did I say anyone who was guilty of that wasnt allowed to play or had an invalid opinion.
If anything, YOU are gatekeeping.
Nope i'm not. And accusing others for something you yourself are doing is just another bad tactic for discussing. That is 2 strikes so far lol.
Some people bought him for perks.
Some people bought him for the character.
Some people bought him for both reasons.
All equally viable.
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@Carpemortum said:
I still play Ash. Hes the ENTITE REASON I bought his DLC.
Stop showing how heavily you rely on perks. ;)
Gatekeeping.
If people bought the DLC for perks only that is just as a valid reason to make the purchase as you buying it for only the skin.
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@Peanits said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/621770#Comment_621770
Curious to see where you're finding these stats. There are publicly available numbers for player counts (on Steam, at least) that show that the game has grown even in the past month alone. This is even keeping in mind that we are between releases at the moment, it'll shoot way back up when the next chapter launches.
Game was more popular in 2018, 2019 gave new temporary high records but those only lasts for so long and now the avg is lower than previous year.
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@Muntcuffinz said:
The game is more popular than it's ever been. I thought the same thing years ago but it's only gotten bigger
Game is actually losing players, not gaining.
Why ? Many reasons, but as someone else said, need new devs at this point.
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More importantly it shows you cant trust your money with this company, ever.
Yes the perk was good.
Yes they have a right to change anything as they see fit.
Yes they can destroy a perk if they feel like it.
But the way this DLC was handled just goes to show, BHVR are not to be trusted. Anyone paying for anything at this point can only blame themselves if they get screwed now.
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@Acesthetiic said:
I love the killers cosmetics. I have at least one for each killer.
But you can't see it when playing... ?
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It is literally the worst DLC of them all.
There is not a single perk worth getting in it.
Save your money.
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What Rule book ??
If me and the SWF want t-bag at exit gate when genrushing as toolbox we do.
If killer wana tunnel and camp its fine.
No rule book in this game.
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The game is fun and all but I know friends that refuse to try the game because of a multitude of problems getting into.
Got a few friends to try the game during double bloodpoint event. Nobody stayed with the game after explaining you would need to grind millions of bp on several survivors just to have 1 surv with most of the good perks.
And how you'd need to grind billions to play killers.
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"What do you mean you wont play our game after all these useless dlc perks we given you and nerfing the few good ones" ???
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Just give killers a 25% Boost per survivor in swfs. So killers have more incentive to not lobby dodge.
Killers all ready have BBQ so they shouldnt need even more bp just for playing the game.
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Just give killers a 25% Boost per survivor in swfs. So killers have more incentive to not lobby dodge.
Killers all ready have BBQ so they shouldnt need even more bp just for playing the game.
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Yet i wait 20 mins as a killer to get a game. Fix three survivors bug in a lobby at least. I dont have time to wait.
Survivor bug ? There is no bug as there is not enough survivor for all games.
Why? Survivor is a bad experience at the moment.
Why? Devs have nerfed almost all fun perks surv have.
Why? Killer complains and devs nerf.
And survivor quits or go play killer as its more fun.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/576762#Comment_576762
I see you left out the part where there was a free week in September.
EDIT: See here for more detailed and unbiased information: https://steamdb.info/app/381210/graphs/
Free week or not, its more ppl that want to play easy killer games than not having fun as survivor = longer que times for killer.
This is a dev issue when they keep making it more unfun to play one side of the game.
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@LapisInfernalis said:
@jeyers Normal queuetimes again. At least for me. So you were wrong.
I come back now after playing Apex season 2 for some weeks and the first top post i see are "killer queues are bad"
So...........
You were wrong. Nothing changed and the amount of survivor are dropping as i said.
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@Skittlesthehusky said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/560533#Comment_560533
i digress. she definitely had some downsides to her. she's already slow enough as it is, and sometimes her hatchets can't exactly make up for it. it's better for her to have some sort of leverage, at least with her lullaby.
it makes more sense for it to be non-directional anyway tbh.
Yea u cant hair where sound is coming from anyways right.... this forum sometimes lol.
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Good they finally got rid of it all together.
It was no use having the music so low might as well remove it and let people use their music from spotiy or something else.
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That user is not a dev, cant know for sure yeah ?
Its guessing at best.
We will see this week who is correct.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/558798#Comment_558798
I am still waiting for you to make any argument that isn't wrong. Blink charge time isn't blink movement speed by the way.
All you say is " she breaks the game" lacking any proof or fact to back it up. While the thing is people are just too stubborn to adapt to it, truth be told if survivors would equip as 4man swf to face a nurse she would have a much harder time. Yet it is so conveniet to run builds that work on 80% of the roster, just not good vs nurse.
You literally said, stealth isn't viable because someone will not do it. Nice idea, change addons/killer due to people not doing what they should. This would be the same as to say, hey can we change myers? I don't want him to be able to stalk me cause then i have to move away, i would much rather like to run in circles infront of him.
Honestly there are some survivors out there that play pretty well against her and as nurse you can tell the diffrence because people will use every little obstacle to break LoS and throw you off of your game.
It is hard to not belittle people that make claims without fact/proof in addition to making wrong statements. Also you are bigot, everybody who disagrees "lacks experience". When you however are confronted with facts you have nothing to say.
Ha ha ha hmmmmm ;)
Stealth ?
Now u can hair survivor breathing so easy from changed sounds lol. and u say stealth. That is not possible.
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@KillermainBTWm8 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/558327#Comment_558327
Trust me there are some unreasonable Killer mains as well both sides have unreasonable people but the main reason you will see more unreasonable survivor mains is because A. it's easier to make bait threads as a survivor main because of the history of the game and current balance or B. For some reason a new player is talking about balance of the game and thinks killers are OP because they are new. It would be stereotypical to say that most survivor mains are unreasonable.
The reason you "might" see more survivor mains is the game need 4 times the number survivors to killer to function.
Survivors are the biggest and most important side from that fact, too bad that survivor mains are getting enough of this "balance", its not good.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/558307#Comment_558307
Break the totems. NOED has a clear and easy counter.
As for the queue times, you know why they're long. It's been explained to you a million times. So I'm left to wonder why you're pretending not to know.
We don't know for sure. Are u a dev with information on their queue numbers ?
I read suggestions from users here sure, but we dont know the true numbers game.
Later this week if queue are still bad we can say i was right tho as no more double bp.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/558300#Comment_558300
I don’t think either side is heavily favored.
Then why do killers still have NOED ? hmmmm ;)
Devs can destroy MoM so survivor cant have "easy" escape.
But not NOED so killers can keep easy down. Well that is just one of many reasons for devs to favor one side more.
The longer queue times i think is because ppl dont wana play surv anymore. why is that?
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Well that is the mentality in wich we in the dbd community has to do and deal with.
You can look at the killer mains in this thread alone calling me names when i point out the obvious flaws and unbalanced meta that favor 1 side. Ofc that side will "downvote" who talks about brining some balance and fun for everyone to enjoy the meta.
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@Tsulan said:
Well, if people fail to interact with the killer, and do nothing but gens.
You missed the point of the Myers game. He has a addon that lets him mori a survivor. No hook required.
You'll find this in one of 100+ matches
Not everyone can get time with the killer as there is a limited amount of pallets on each map so at least 2 survivor per game will not gain the points you had there.
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@Tsulan said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/418/V85LZDN3XPX8.jpg
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/528/FOYBQDPSLW4D.jpg
On one i survived, on the other one i got caught by Myers insta mori.
I sort of understand what u trying to say but no.
You made 20k that one game and 2 others made less then 7k combined. Kinda shows how survivor points are not the same rate gained as killers get.
Same as pic nr.2, 3 other survivors got way less then killer for the match they played.
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Mettle of Man - from a dlc costing money = destroyed perk now.
But from what i read ppl say only play surv if u can SWF wich makes sens ofc.
And i havent seen those pics showing the bp gain is about the same so please contribute and link them.
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@AsheruSwiftwind said:
No its not. This is the killer que system and its a waste of most peoples time.
What is wrong with the system ?
Do you want to play vs 3 survivors if 1 crash during loading ?
The long waits time is because so many play killer and survivor is not fun to play. People think the que time will "fix itself" but it will propably get much worse as the ppl who main survivor dumps the unfun experience for something better.
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@Tsulan said:
Please stop with the bait threads.
If you don't enjoy playing survivor, then just play killer.
No one forces you to play a role you don't like.
You're the only on here not contributing to the discussion so take your own advice.
I would like to hear what the community thinks about playing survivor and im sure others do too.
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Dont worry its just long queue times because of new killer and double blood points event.
It will even out soon as ppl get bored of new killer.
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@RoKrueger said:
Just recieve more hits, it will work eventually
Nah bro. Season 2 of Apex is tomorrow and there are tons of other fun games to play.
Why spend time on this game then ?
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@martin27 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/557678#Comment_557678
You still have MoM it's just not broken and overpowered. Can't say if it's under powered because i don't have it.
It is under powered, and not used anymore.
Survivors will DC and find other games to spend their time in until some fun perks are back i think.
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Until devs make survivor fun again to play this issue will never go away. (Bring back MoM)