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tbh im a little bit defensive about giving survivors more info, sometiems you jsut equip Kindred and solos wont go to save u cause they are so scared by the killer that wont even try to save you, so the problem is not how much you buff solo q is about how terrible your teammates are, and mmr doesnt work sicne the only measure uses is if they escaped or not and since escaping ≠ skill then you get in higher mmr worse teammates cuase they only know how to hold m1 on gens and die every 10 seconds they go in a chase, cause they just got carried by 1 or 2 survivors who know who to run the killer for some time...
the mmr should of been something related to how much u are able to keep the killer chasing you as first measurement and then the rest actions will impact aswell but not even close to chase, sicne thats the only realistic way to tell if a survivor is good or not, because thats what survive means, being able to combat the killer, not hiding behind a bush and do gens, that wont get you far once you face decent killers who wont fall for those imersed techs.
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@fulltonon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2767067#Comment_2767067
Their addons are what every addons should be like, strong and fun, while not being broken to the point of instawin.
oh but they are strong and unfun, while being broken to the point of insta win tho. for blight you have easy mode blight mode, you need to equip Alchemist Ring and Compound 33. you dont even need to be good at blight you just spam and you should win unless you are terrible at the game, if u are decent you most likely will win chases VERY QUICK... and nurse you have double recharge addons or even worse extended range addons wich eliminate any kind of counterplay nurse has...
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@ThiccBudhha said:
Imagine dying to killer that got ran for 5 gens? Omegalul, that is more cringe my average posts. Peepoblush.
kek, eventually the killer will catch up by the time 5 gens are done especially agaisnt a bubba there wont be any resource left
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@Marc_123 said:
Hey, your MMR goes down, theirs goes up.
At the moment i would they you won and they lost.
would make sense if it wasnt cause my teammates will also be worse not better (for the most part)
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@[Deleted User] said:
Skill isn't exclusively about surviving. Sometimes it's about distracting the killer long enough for your teammates to survive.
Which you did!
Be proud!
my hole thread is sarcasm. i know i was the only one skilled that match, holding m1 on gens means nothing.
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@SuzuKR said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2765253#Comment_2765253
Dodging an attack can be baited out and countered fine. Using it for distance is uncounterable to the absolute majority of killers. That is not healthy design. Thankfully, the devs have also realized this and are targeting the usability for distance in the perk.
u cant react to killers launge if u have them blowing your neck, impossible to react only to extended attacks you can do potentially something, and still most times you need to read the killer if u want to react, 8/10 times if u want to react you will die, the only reason this perk is popular, somwhat decent is because you can make distance and potentially counter some killer powers like huntress, and some others like nurse.
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dead hard is fine, only perk able to coutner ranged killers for one time, and nurse, blight curvings and some other bull** this game offers.
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nurse and blight are fine, BUT THEIR ADDONS ARENT.
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uncloack first then complain.
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i mean thats what usually happens anyway, seeing try hards from both sides is what usually happens at least on my servers.
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@tenoresax said:
It sucks to know that it's still gonna get nerfed considering how much people complain about it like its the nastiest thing on the planet.
It's a fun add-on, I just hope it doesn't get nerfed too bad.
it recieves complains because is way too powerfull, it makes it so survivors have no time to reach things very often. the worst part about it is that there is 0 drawback is just a buff for free, you plug the addon and there u go, no requirement or anything in an already S tier killer to make it even worse.
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@I_am_Negan said:
Because some solo survivors find the game more fun just healing, searching chests, breaking totems and hiding from the killer all match then doing gens.
It's what they find fun it's how they enjoy the game.
thats what killers like survivors doing nothing productive all game, wich basically hurts the entire team, and creates more SWF because is infuriating to play Solo Q, way more than killer, and i have MANY hours in my account to back up this, as killer i never feel as frustrated as playing Solo Q not even close.
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so 2 flashlights and non really meta perks (no even 1 ds or unbrekable) at all was the problem u had?
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@Komi said:
It isn't nearly as used as anticipated, and essentially does the same as using sprint burst and taking damage afterwards. In matches where its used, I do notice it but it just feels like seeing any other exhaustion perk used, stop and decide if I should chase or not, and even worse is they're injured.
So am I crazy or is this just a mid tier exhaustion perk at best? And to anyone using it, what do you see in it?
overcome is a great perk against m1 killers but pretty much useless agaisnt the strongest killers in the game, dead hard shines agaisnt every single one of them (except insta down killers but you can try force them with windows to m1)
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if i dont have anything i will grab the brown medkit is a fine item (but one of the worst in the entire game, if im injured and i hve any other thing i will grab it, heal and leave it there, is not worth to escape with it). the toolbox on the other side is pretty much useless without addons, so not even worth grabbing..
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is not like it costs you money to unlock them but the reward they are giving us is laughable. 6k or 7k shards, you dont buy one single free character with that and i loved my jake skin, because was so rare and almost no one had it because jake is such an odd character to see, took me many years, and what do i get? a pathetic amount of shards in compensation this is a verified BHVR moment.
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why would we nerf them if killers still win in average most of their games.
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solo q the killer wins
SWF if the premade is decent the premade wins if not Killer wins again. the second option is less likely one so thats why most killers still win most of their games.
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nurse takes the W by a mile... then comes Blight-
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for m2 killers would make it easy AF indeed, more than alrady is
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i mean is technically right since all blights feel the need to bring alchemist + speed every game or at least double speed wich are basically his best addons otehrwise they feel he is weak (is not) but still... (im just following the meme)
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the game is in its worst state ever... and devs dont care sadly.
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they overdone him? yes they did, but quickscope made 0 sense and was a painfull experience to go against, the TR was unnecesary.
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@Warcrafter4 said:
Every time a killer gets gutted because survivors cry for it the more top tier killers you're going to face because of it.
Seriously though there hasn't been a single killer nerf that has been good for the game's variety in the game's entire history...
Yet survivors repeat history ad nauseam with begging for killer nerfs.
speaks for others not for me... im talking about nurse 7 tiems in a row non variety actually at least trowh some blights in between or something, and still would be extremely annoying going against them both non stop especially cause only strongest addons are used every single game
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@foxsansbox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/302285/7-nurses-in-a-row
I don't believe you fought 7 nurses in a row.
here in LATAM nurse is extremely popular, more than blights, brazilians love her.
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@steamed_hamzzz said:
7 Nurses in a row is nothing compared to killers going against at least 3 Dead Hards for the 1000th consecutive game
Pair that with map offerings, Discord, Boons, broken loops and lightning fast gens and it’s no surprise killers are forced to play the only few viable killers left to compete with good/ efficient survivors
7 nurses in a row is nightmare unless you play SWF is guaranteed 7 loses. so no, solo q is harder than killer BY A MILE, and solos are the most in this game... so i can use the same argument there. also they will always bring the most dumb addons in her wich are double recharge or recharge + distance. u talking like the killers are the victims when literally they always bring the strongest pile of ... they can bring every single game aswell, and unless survivors are playing SWF is gonna be a walk on the park for the killer. swf at least makes the game interesting, instead of the easiest 4k in their lives, but killers want that, win with 4ks without any difficulty.
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@Lynxx said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2721302#Comment_2721302
He shreds through pallets - and it's a tall order for most people to run any killer for five gens. He'll get someone - then I get to do nothing interesting but sit on gens all game hoping we knock them out fast enough before the first guy expires. That's if the other survivors aren't idiots and all get slugged two gens in trying to save him. I'd much rather have a nurse that at least knows how to hunt - I've always liked going against nurses, need line of sight breakers though instead of loops.
still u can loop him just find windows and combine them he cant do nothing against that even with bambozle. the best tiles agaisnt him are exactly that windows. against nurse there is actually nothing you can do besides LOS wich wont work agaisnt good nurses... u only have dead hard once and will work once only, tahts the gameplay against nurse, totally different compared to bubba. id face bubba over nurse any day of the weak, at least im guaranteed to have fun unless he catches me still most bubbas wont face camp unless you gave him bassement for free.
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@Gamedozer7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/302285/7-nurses-in-a-row
Thats what happens when you nerf mid to low tier killers because low skill players have problems with them. If you balance from the bottom up it just makes stuff less viable at top because you still use the same tactics that you would at low level but now they are 10x more effective because they are already effective at low and unskilled levels. I got lost at some point but I think I make my point.
in the end if u make killers stronger the experience for solos will be more miserable than already is, SWF are in their own level of invincibility, thats pretty much unfixable and is how it is, luckily they are the less by a huge margin, most people just play solo...
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@ShinobuSK said:
Ever since the MMR I only see 4 killers and yes Nurse is one of them
but at least change some in between, dont just give me 7 nurses in a row with double recharge or recharge + dumb range. wich is the same ######### over and over again
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@Lynxx said:
I'll trade you 5 camping Bubbas for those nurses...yeah not exaggerating, 5 in one night.
if bubba gets u is pretty much your fault, sicne you can loop him by pre dropping or using windows but nurse.... thats a totally different #########.
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@GuyFawx said:
Lucky i prefer the challenge over the guessing from a spirit
its onlñy a challenge if u are in SWF, solos cant do nothing against it. still, a couple of times is fine 7 times in a row is not a challenge, is a pain in the ass. however you really think is not a guessing game against Nurse? because it is, she dictates the chase not you and the only think you can do is try to make her lose LOS and she can still read you and get u anyway, thats still a guessing...
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part of the problem relys on GENS NOT HAVING FEELINGS, but survivors do because they are people behind the screen, so playing for the 4E you know is like, u are not doing any "damage" to the killer there cause u are doing gens however when you are facmping a survivor they are not even allowed to play the game when they had to wait for 5 to 10 minutes cause wait times are terrible... it always was related to that.
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@I_am_Negan said:
Propnight is the kiddie version of DBD😂
at least that game works decently unlike dbd.
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she is since the counterplay doesnt exist. on top of that the hits she lands are dumb never close to you, is like she has a double tier 3 muyers reach or some dumb ######### because she always reach despite being far away... most people also get bored of her quickly due again how dumb she is.
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Nurse the dumbest killer in the game spirits comes close.
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i mean killers rely on heaving camping and tunneling so?.
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@AngyKiller said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2717226#Comment_2717226
And here we see the Survivor tactic of insulting the Killers in order to control their behavior.
It's not 'I fed you while you camped'. It's 'You are bad at the game, so you camp'. Just more peer-pressure BS from Survivors too angry to admit they feed camping Killers. 🤡
it is a terrible mechanic, used by killers who have not confidence in their skill to find and win other chases any other thing you say is delusional, get better at the game and you wont need to face camp survivors. bttw im fine with face camping if all gens are done im not that type of survivor, im fine with securing a kill when you have no other objective
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just cause you are bad at the game and insecure in your skill to win other chases doesnt mean the guy who got down should be penalized because your incompetence to get other hooks, its terrible mechanic and for certain killers is borderline op cause nothing can be done, like bubba. literally nothing can be done cause is not only the insta down, its the are insta down that prevents anything from happening.
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BT is fine as it is, usually never exists in solo q, is more like a swf perk tbh.
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my gamertag on steam is Solo Q is Pain. so i understand your frustrations, still people say killer is harder lol, solo q is the most painfull experience in this game, uinless you are playing with 3 amazing teammates wich usually doesnt happen.
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@AngyKiller said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2711879#Comment_2711879
Not really. All I see is 'Survivors should be able to make everyone leave if one votes to leave' which, as I said, basically vetos anyone wanting to stay.
Your idea, again, is 'Screw the Killer, because I want to ragequit if someone else ragequits, and I don't care about BP, and I don't care about anyone else's fun. So let me ragequit'
It's a b ad idea. You attacking everyone and reiterating the idea again and again does not suddenly make it better. You claiming 'I did not see any counter-arguments because Killer mains' does not magically dismiss every counter-argument that's been made.
- The idea can be abused by SWFs to quite & deny the Killer BP.
- If ONE person votes to leave, everyone is kicked? That's real fair. 🙄
- No. You should not get free DCs just because YOU only care about winning. The game is not all about you; there's other teammates AND the opposing side to think about.
Face it; the idea is terrible: it's easy to abuse, and it's unfair in it's design. It was made by someone biased to the point that they don't care about other players, which makes for a flawed idea. All you can see is what YOU want, evidenced by 'I don't care about BP' being your excuse for wanting to leave the match free of punishment.
Everyone has said so, and your only reply is 'Killer main'. It's clear you can't hold a proper discussion and actually talk about your idea. You just assume it's flawless because you made it, and dismiss everyone as being a 'Killer main' if they disagree with you.
Good day, Sir or Madam.
very fancy but, read again. because you clearly havent entirelly, how can a person who cant even read say that i cant have a discussion? thats the first thing you need to do before getting into one, read its not that hard. So as i said to another guy, read first repply later.
-i didnt say ######### the killer i actually said that the addons and stuff is the least of the problems, (as if that was hard to fix the addons can be given back to the killer easily, in fact survivors get their stuff back except oferings if the killer Dcs, but since you dont read what i said u dont know)
-cant be abused by SWF you have to take the L and wait the penalization and will only go higher and higher, what will you do? Dc everyday? enjoy your long bans if u do that cause if u play on a full stack if someone has penalization you wont be abusing for long. as i said before you can abuse it a couple of times then get the L and enjoy youre 24hs and longer bans, it takes SEVERAL DAYS of good behaviour to make it go down little by little. as i sad its UNRELIABLE... enjoy your first dcs because thats all you will get, also i wouldnt complain if they give a 10 min penalty at the second DC so its completely impossible to abuse then unless you want to play lobby simulator, i dont DC myself so i dont care if penalty increases.
-Yes it is, its a 3 v 1 game, what will you do? you cant do nothing you are at killers mercy and if he/she wants to make you stay slugged for the rest of the match or for as long as he wants you will stay, as i said to the other guy YOU DONT DECIDE WHEN TO LEAVE, THE KILLER DOES. what will you do? you wont do nothing, because nothing can be done, the killer can decide to farm (Extremely unexciting, id rather dc than farming) being slugged on the ground because he wants to and decides to, ( u cant do nothing against that and many times they do it because they get angry at the person who left so the rest must suffer, egotitiscal sadistic people) the killer may decide to hook you but a dumbo comes to the rescue before you can ######### (very often, they dont understand i dont want to play a lost game and wont do, this is an exception i dont do this when i get downed or something like that, im not that tipe of player but i will leave when someone dcs as fast as i possible cause the balance was broken and also gets unexciting)
so what are u trying to achieve? win? HAHA, yes you will win a 3 v 1 against a decent nurse or blight/Spirit/artist, (u wont, especially at high mmr and even less in SOLO Q with the massive uncordination) why u still there? to farm 10k points? LOL. the reason why i think this is Simple, forfeit system makes sense because you wont win, this way players can leave and go to a new match; and if someone wants to stay there playing a 1 v 1 with the killer is fine, stay there but dont force others to stay there with you, the rest dont need to stay there and since that can happen (someone not wanting to leave) makes sense that everyone can leave despite if one surv wants to stay, and if 2 want to leave even less of a discussion, also the point makes sense, why? because sometimes survivors are playing in 2 man SWF so then they decide if the solo can leave or not by boting stay? is that fair? i dont think so, if all of them want to stay is fine, stay but if there is one who wants to leave and not play an unwinable match is also fair. and yes, it is about winning, why do you play a game? to lose? only extremely casual or new people in to the game have that mindset of having fun only by playing the game, and as fast as they get decent at the game it wont be enough with just playing it, they will want to win and having the chance and they wont have fun if they are doomed from the get go.
So, give me a real argument ot stay on a match i will lose because im doomed from the get go, i dont like playing with those odds agaisnt me, because i never had the chance to win wich makes the experience boring. and as i said unless you are extremely casual u will care, its a waste of time for me staying there when i could ready up for another game that i may have the chance of winning or not... but i have one thing certain, i will lose that game when soneoem dced with 5 gens ( dont come here saying you dont know, i can guarantee you you wont win a high mmr game in a 3 v 1 with 5 gens still).
-as i said multiple times this is a team game for survivors if someone leaves with 5 gens u have no chance, its only fair that they can leave early and addons and offerings are back to the killer and survivors to go to a new game, tahts fair and i never said i had any problem with it.
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@AngyKiller said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2711810#Comment_2711810
He was asking: if the Killer put in offerings, and 1 Survivors DCs, and the others vote to leave; does the Kilelr get his offering back? Do the other Survivors?
I can see this being abused by a SWF, too: Killer starts winning, Survivor #1 DCs & eats a 5 minute penalty. Survivors 2-4 vote to leave. Killer is now cheated out of his kills, BP, and items.
Basically, your idea is 'If 1 Survivor DCs, the rest should be able to veto the Killer and leave unpunished (Because there's 3 Survivors to 1 Killer. And the Killer gets nothing.'
Also, I don't know if you've noticed, but DBD is not like other games. You can't apply other game's systems to DBD. If you could, I could argue that 'Survivors should have a stamina system, because OTHER GAMES have limited sprint!'
A vote-to-leave system is too easy to abuse, and it shafts the Killer players immensely. If someone DCs; do your best, get your BP, and play the match to the end. Don't be a baby who needs to flip the table because suddenly you have a lesser chance of winning.
all of that already discussed but people dont read, i already talked about that. why do people get into a discussion if u are not gonna read?. i will never udnerstand that, is beyond me.
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@ThiccBudhha said:
Nah, if you want out of the game, come to Papa.
read first, repply later.
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@foxsansbox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2711013#Comment_2711013
The killer came to play, he put in addons. Are those going to be refunded, is he going to be given BP equivalent to what the remaining survivors left on the table by voting out?
Also, dude, you're inconsolable.
??? makes 0 sense, what about the many games that also have a built in the feature? is not inconsolable, present me good reasonings, i havent seen one decent reason from all people who comented yet, but i cant expect much on a killer main page, should i?
the killer came to play? so you are saying survivors didnt come to play?... 0 sense, survivors came to play aswell but a dumbo decided to leave with 5 gens ######### up the rest, the balance got destroyed... stuff can be implemented with the addons and items, thats the least of the problems, when the killer dcs for example survivor at the moment are getting everything back but the offerings.
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@RainehDaze said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2711008#Comment_2711008
Then do the gens so they have no choice.
The problem here is that people will still habitually DC over the dumbest #########, not that you can't ragequit with them.
you dont understand, you wont win a high mmr game, they will just make your experience misserable as they always do by slugging, or "giviny you false hope" by lowering the pressure and then destroying you when he wants, you wont win a 3 v 1 game in high mmr, you can only do that against baby killers.
if anything at least adding a vote system as many games have so that happens everyone leaves, many games have the vote leave so, i think its fair, most people who play solo q actually, will appreciate that and aleviate the huge pain that playing solo represents.
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@RainehDaze said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2710994#Comment_2710994
Then just walk up to the Killer, it's not hard to get out of the game.
you dont decide when you leave the game the killer does, and if he wants you to stay you will stay.
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if not dc then if that happens they should add a way to vote the lost, if that happens immediately when the game starts or with 5 gens an option to VOTE LEAVE will appear, if 1 surv vote for it then everyone leaves so no one gets hostage because the other 2 dont want to leave. its a lost game anyway, why would you waste more time in there? farming? good lord please no.
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@ColonGlock said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2710989#Comment_2710989
You can walk up to the killer and end the match if you are done.
i shouldnt have to, shouldnt have to waste more time, also MOST times those killers want to farm or slug you or wont hook you even if you go to them just take the L and remain in the floor for as long as i desire, trying to artificially extend the match as long as possible (thats what usualy happens)... wich is a ######### experience-
if not dc then other mechanic should be implemented like being able to Vote and leave or something,
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@RainehDaze said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2710984#Comment_2710984
Yes, they need to wait, but they can have four times as many games with lower penalties before they have to take a bad one.
As it is now: if player A disconnects, then players B through D, they all have to wait and the penalty starts counting. With your suggestion, player A disconnects, players B through D disconnect, they wait five minutes (rather than playing a 5+ minute game), then next time, player B disconnects, then C, then D. Only then does A disconnect again, and depending on how it's counting, it might have been enough games where they got what they wanted that A's disconnect timer reset.
At no point do they ever have more than a 5 minute DC penalty.
you talk like timer resets immediately, it takes several days of good behaviour to get fixed. so again, your suggestion makes 0 sense, cause ok you get 4 free escapes (not really you get penalization), then what?.
also so you suggest no fix then? take the L and @@@@?
most people play Solo q, acting like this is a full SWF game all time is delusional, most people play solo q.