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@Sava18 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3372230#Comment_3372230
Excluding his dumb add-ons you simply mean to say you don't intend to improve. Blight has the no skill ceiling and allows survivors to express the most skill, hating him and not specifically his 2-3 problematic add-ons means you have no intention of improving. That's fine in of itself, but that also means you have no real right to comment on these things.
Do you know all of the collision in the game? Have you ever pluto'd a blight? Have you played the killer extensively enough to understand the only killer with depth to him in this entire game? Everything you have said in this thread is just "You can only throw pallets" when in reality everything in the map can be both good for him and used against him. 5k hours in this game means nothing to me, I can count on one hand the amount of survivors I would consider amazing in chase. I've versed comp teams and mained a few other killers.
Also, Billys power may as well be a nerfed c33 that happens to insta down in a large dead zone. LOL.
its really that hard to read before repplying? when did i say i cant loop a blight? i said he isnt fun in the same way is not fun to loop an artist or a Spirit or a Nurse, u can more or less dpeending on wich map, addons, RNG, etc... does that mean is fun? no, but since u cant read. im done with this post. please dont repply, not gonna answer anyway.
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@HugTechLover said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3372124#Comment_3372124
Billy is such a meme killer now lmao. EZ chases all day even if they are good at Billy. Blight has tons of counterplay and if you don’t want to believe so, you’re probably just not as great as you may think you are, and I have no more reason to continue this conversation. Good day sir
yeah sure thats literally why in comp i see good billys quite oftenly getting 4ks in gas heaven and wreckerds yards but whatever suits your narrative pal.
and im quite good as survivor not gonna lie, i didnt say i cant play against him (again reading comprehension problems) i said he is not fun to play against not that is impossible, he never was fun especially when he brngs the dumb addons he always brings to the game that i dont even understand why they werent nerfed yet after years of being that dumb.
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@Tostapane said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3371671#Comment_3371671
you PRETEND that i didn't verse her in that situation, but facts are others... also in order to found those 3 gen so close the killer must pick up a specific map offering for a certain realm that i won't mention here cause the game is already boring enough with those kind of tactics without being incentivized... usually the gens have enough distance between each other and can't be defended if all survivors are still alive, even with that kind of killer
As i said you have a plethora of things to use at your disposal to counter that situation, if you don't understand (or better, if you REFUSE to understand) then our debate can end here since you can't talk to people who refuse to listen/learn from their mistakes...
Literally u dont understand nothing about the game to say what u said. 3 gens can spown very close eachother despite map offerings or not. in fact i just played in garden of joy she had a hard 3 gen in one of the biggest maps in the game in the forest she camped that from 5 gens. the rest not even gonna bother. im just losing my time with you.
however im gonna say this im quite sure about my arguments, she is gonan get tuned very soon, youll see.
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@Reinami said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3367670#Comment_3367670
tinfoil hat much? killers "want" smaller maps, because spawning into a map and literally losing a gen before you can physically walk to it is insane. Because the "hold w" meta is extremely boring for both sides.
That isn't to say that 3 genning, and camping, and tunneling, and YES the fact that you lose 2-3 gens guaranteed in your first chase? All should be fixed.
But i always say the early game goes too fast for killers, and the answer i get? "killers are stronger with less gens"
if u use corrupt intervention that will never happen.- but whatever-
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@HugTechLover said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3371661#Comment_3371661
Then… don’t greed? It’s boring because you can’t greed a pallet and run blight like you do an m1 killer. Sorry you can’t run the same loop 7 times before having to drop the pallet lol. ( sorry not sorry )
That’s the biggest thing I see survivors make a mistake on against me, they try to green pallets or they try and hold W. Neither works.
??? there are many killers that arent m1 and still u can play around his power billy is the one that literally comes to my mind, i just had a run on wreckerds yards yesterday, he was really good, we got to 2 v 1 and a friend did 2 gens in that chase, high risk high reward he had engravings, if u play poorly u die but there is counterplay, the counterplay agaisnt a good blight is literally not playing DBD as survivor, the other one taht also comes to my mind is Wesker with his very capable anti loop but with counterplay, also Demo... thats the reason why i dont find him fun (unless he is not using any addons, then he becomes quite bearable but who plays blight without addons? that doesnt exist), i dont have fun agaisnt killers i only can W till i die or insta pre drop, boring AF, lame AF thats why i said what i said u may not agree wich is fine if u have fun at playing surv by just insta pre drop (if u even play surv at all) good for u i dont and most survivors dont either.- so anything that affects blight performance im happy with.-
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@Gamedozer7 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3371576#Comment_3371576
Sure as long as you don't mind been bleeding out on the ground for 4 minutes because your unhookable.
thats why exponential boon and unbrekable exist u know? valid and no problematic strategy right?
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@Tostapane said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3371188#Comment_3371188
You know that potential energy exist to prevent those situations (don't forget toolboxes), right? You know that if survivors 3gen themselves is only their fault most of the times, right? You know that perks like sprint burst will completely deny her expose effect from the drones right (a killer using that tactic can't afford to waste time in prolonged chases)? You know that you can disable the drones right? Counterplay are various, it's up to you and your team to use them... If they aren't able to think to the various situations that they could went aganist it's not the killer's fault. It's like complaining about a facecamping bubba, everyone know that the best way to deal with it is to do generators and use wisely the perks that you have at your disposal, yet most of the players will try to do the save despite it's technically impossible (unless you have specific perks and are in the last phase of the game) to rescue a survivor camped by bubba
As i said u didnt verse her yet.U dont understand that none of that works against a skull merchant that camps 3 gens at arm reach AND IS NEVER GONNA LEAVE IT doesnt care if survs finish 4 gens she is gonna spown and quickly find that ez 3 gen to camp all game and stick around. Not gonna waste more of my time if u cant understand that
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@Sava18 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3370282#Comment_3370282
But you are likely unwilling to learn how to play vs blight and any map that is bad for blight is worse for other killer minus 3-4 current maps. People that don't like blight in general really just mean they don't really want to be good at the game chase wise.
Its not my case tbh. I have 5k hours in the game i just dont enjoy going against him consistently, especially because 8 out of 10 times he will have ring wich is dumb btw its not that is hard to play him, its boring because u greed u get hit. I dont find him fun to go against. There is no high risk high reward against him if u greed its easy reward for him (if he is good) so there is no ku h interaction u need to put pallets down quickly if he knows about good bump logic and not trying to hug tech all the time where u can actually play around more and greed. On this map is easier to verse him because he slides and has way too many objects and trees are THICCC af so its easier for the surv to juke, i just played yesterday against a comp blight he got 4 hooks on that map, is rough but as i said i dont enjoy going against him so idc if he suffers greatly is what it is same with nurse sorry but not sorry
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@cannonballB said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3368210#Comment_3368210
The devs have said 3-genning is a valid strategy. Killers have every right to try and kill you, since, you know, that's their job and all. And 3-genning is one (very good) way to do that. What people don't seem to get is, the killer isn't there to make your game last less than 45 minutes. He has no responsibility to make your game shorter.
I only play solo survivor. I've had many a 3gen used against me. Some I won, some I lost, but every time the game was absolutely fair. Just because you don't like a strategy doesn't mean the strategy is abuse.
Then we may bring back boil over to its previous state after all is a strat that survivors used right?
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@Wewantjason said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3371531#Comment_3371531
As though we aren’t allowed to disagree ? Just quoting a mod doesn’t make you right. I disagree with that whole thing. not insulting the mod but it’s clearly a bias that the killers who could t get up there straight up lose that match but the insist or dredge atleast still had a chance of survivors winning even if slim. No offense to Mandy, but you quoting a mod or dev is pointless. If we all agreed all the time we wouldn’t have 90% of the discussions that happen on here.
come up with your own reply don’t just quote a mod like that’s a magical panacea
Pretty gamebreaking for me when I can’t get on that mound and got held hostage for nearly 20+ minutes. Was I suppose to stop mid match to find a YouTube vid on how to get up there? I didn’t even know until this post there was a way up there while I got teabagged and the person up there kept throwing diversion
game breaking is a relative term and I disagree per that post
killer held hostage on ormond wasn’t game breaking but killer invisible during parts of the match when he already has stealth anyway isnt? Miss me with that. Map should have been killswitched.
Ye because climbing a rock wich the killer can also do and dealing with an invisible killer are very conparable things indeed
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If survs are getting away with body blocks that means u sre trying to go way too far, besides why do u complain? Survs are giving you free pressure, tbey are not doing gens, they sre giving you free hits and u less u got greedy u are still gonna hook said survivor. So i dont get it.
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tbh i dont have any problem to use reassurance even when is Leatherface u can always get behind the hook activate it or trough a wall UNLESS is in the middle of nowhere and u cant sneak in but thats rare to see. i think the perk is overall fine i may increase the timer to 40 or 45 seconds because killers love to camp and face camp (REASON WAS CREATED FOR, if killers didnt play as they do this perk wouldnt even exist) but other than that is fine. Im not entrielly against tunneling (especially when only 1 or 2 gens are remaining and u need people out quick but im all in against camping because its very easy to trade hooks like that, u are while cmaping or face camping dealing with AT LEAST half the team at the same time or 75% of the team even if they want to get out of that situation without losing the game due hook trading.
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@HugTechLover said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3371055#Comment_3371055
Probably because those maps are balanced. Lmao, why else would nobody talk about it?
You thought you did something. 😂
sorry but there is no way wreckerds yards, gas heaven and more than half of mac millan maps and some other very small maps are balanced, unless u consider balanced to killer sided maps.
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@Tostapane said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3371033#Comment_3371033
there are FAR worse things than a 3 gen skull merchant... that one is annoying, but little by little is doable since the killer can chase only 1 survivor par time... and she can't clone herself to do this for every survivor in game
seems u havent faced a decent skull merchant then. she doesnt need to she can expose survivors and run perks like overcharge or call of brine, 3 gens are small plus 2.5% extra per hit to the gen, on top of that run the oblivious addon so u may get closer to survivors without them realizing unless ofc 4 man swf... u cant work exposed because u go down, u cant take risks because u may not make it anywhere if u commit for way too long, on top of that if she manages to down someone in the 3 gen u are gonan suffer way more. only a full premade could potentially break it and it wont be easy at all. so no, its a battle pride in most situations and survivors normally dont have the patience to wait for 45 minutes or more wich is totally normal, i could have played 3 matches with that time, the game doesnt progress, its dumb and needs fixing. id rather go agaisnt 3 blights with ring and comp 33 in a row for quick matches than this snore fest, is the most unpleseant experience u can have in the game
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Killer got easier and easier overtime it was difficult back then with all the busted loops we used to have to deal with so is normal and strong anti tunnel perks, survs got much weaker compared to then top of that a huge nerf to all anti tunnel perks, tinneling has never been stronger but somehow we live in a baby surv era now when killer has never been so easy lol
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its hilarious because they didnt do nothing the first time it happened, it just stopped happening, since then every big streamer started using a big VPN to protect themselves because BHVR was doing nothing about it they just closed their mouths and never spoke about it again,. meanwhile u heard your fav streamer complaining about it in time to time and having to always use a VPN to be able to play the game, for that reason i find that twitter comment very funny. but a company being a company.
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as killer u can only blame yourself for bad reads or maybe MMR if u can see survivors being way better than you by a wide margin, sometiems certain weaker killers dont help, however as survivor its different since its a team thing, if u see your teammats trowhing u wont blame yourself u blame your ass teammates, if u went down in 5 seconds against a m1 killer u have to blame yourself for being that bad at the game unless impressive lag. and sometiems ofc to the killer when they tunnel vision so hard they dont even allow to play the game, ofr doesnt work since u are hit immediately out of hook and some other perks like Dh wont work either, u may have ds at best wich is a trash perk atm. then ofc u blame the killer for face camping and heavy tunneling because it wasnt the survivor fault for farming when the killer had 0 intention of leaving that was the only choice. so it depends.
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everything that hurts blight is wonders to my ears i cant emphatize with blight, sorry.
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@Nyxamour said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/367851/a-battle-pride-of-1h
So, do you desire for her lethality in chase to be improved?
thats exactly what she needs, BHVR needs to remove the possibility of holding a 3 gen and if they cant change this now then she needs to get a HIGHER cooldown, she has 10 seconds right now for every drone, increase it to 30 even 40 seconds if u want her to remain like this, but would be even much better to change her power.
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same guy twice, dragged the game for 40 minutes, at this point i think he has some problems who drags a game for 40 minutes to 1h twice in a row?. literally the most unpleasent experience i ever had in a videogame. the only reason i didnt dc from get go is because my net already crashed twice so it was gonna be 15 minutes even then i would have lost less time so it was worth it to dc. im gonna kill on hook every single time i see her. id rather go agaisnt a ######### blight with comp 33 and ring at least that game will be quick unless strong map and we may be able to win but this snore fest? there is no reason to go over this torture.
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they dont we need to keep them coming 3 gen is dumb because is not the killer creating it, is BHVR doing it and is dumb.
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some people like to make the game harder for themselves the problem is they hurt the rest of the team while doing that and then they want quick heals ofc, so i blame them aswell but still i can get it. def the rason is not wasting them cause no way u are gonna waste your hundreds brown medkits sicne u are gonna spend more points in your characters u dont really run out of medkits or items unless those are purple those have a low rate in the BW.
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@Bot_Salvo88 said:
On the new mobile version of DbD mobile this feature will be present. I see no reason why this shouldn't be a thing.
Let's say I'm play trapper and my game crashed. That trapper becomes a bot until I either rejoin the match or not. If I rejoin, I'll take control over the trappy not and resume from where he stopped. If I don't rejoin, trappy not will do his job without ruining the match for anyone. Survivors won't even notice that someone crashed or DC'd
i can also agree, if its a survivor potentially could get replaced by a bot i guess. im tired of this ######### servers BHVR uses. My conection also sometimes crashes wich it just happens.
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@GentlemanFridge said:
DbD games don't last long enough for this to work. They're quite simply too fast. If it takes you ~2 minutes to get back, that could be someone dead on hook. A gen crucial gen could've been done. You don't recover from that if the killer doesn't let you.
It's not worth the development time.
it could take 2 mins if u get a hard crash but maybe is one of those reset ip ones that literally just crashes your game but not even discord or steam u can reconect instantly in less than 30 seconds when that happens. besides the game keeps crashing al lthe time and penalizing players.
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@HugTechLover said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3367786#Comment_3367786
I may or may not open task manager if somebody brings a red forest offering.
but is fun when blights offer mac millans offerings for survs non stop right?
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thanks for posting it, it helps massively for devs nerfing it sooner.
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Oni is one of the strongest killers in the game, he starts weak but then escalates to top tier so no, he doesnt need any buff his power is almost busted so he needs to have some downside in order to get it.
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@Caiman said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3366557#Comment_3366557
Deja Vu is a perk.
congrats u can see the 3 gen now that u know it just see her camping the 3 gen all the time, congrats u achived nothing! i love the extremely bright suggestions killer mains always give.
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@Xendritch said:
They're not infinite you have 4 and if one gets deactivated it takes 10 seconds to get it back, survivors need to deactivate them at roughly the same time and it severely puts a dent in her map pressure because it will take a while for her to get them all back and setup again.
wow 10 seconds. meanwhile u risk getting exposed all the time and of course reveal your position.
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yep onboxious strat because it expose you, is just bad design i wonder if they play and check their creations before going live.
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Trapper, Myers, Pig, Freddy, Doctor, Sadako, the New Skull Merchant, i guess Pig even if she has her Dash wich is M2 pretty much useless in most situations but still if u want to call her M2 i wont say NO... for the most part people call M1 killers the ones that normally wont cause u any damage with their M2, reason why Nurse, Blight, Demogorgon, Wesker, Artist, Piramid head, Huntress, Trickster, Etc Etc killers who can hurt u with M2 normally are called M2 killers the ones who cant are called M1, trapper can hurt u with his traps is true but is not him doing the damage is his unique power the traps... however that concept is also not entirelly correct since Legion can also hurt u but is pretty much a M1 killer since he cant down u he can injure yes but in the end is like getting chased by M1... but i could understand anyone saying he could be M2.
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@NewPlayer100102 said:
I use bond.
I get away from the generator I'm on early when I see some idiot incoming in chase.
If they don't care about completing the match with a victory for all, neither do I.
I'd rather waste the 20 seconds of being off the gen, then deal with the rage of having a teammate train me.
"idiot coming" well sorry for trying to get to the nearest pallet or window we see. I do understand when u saw there was someone there and u purposelly bring the killer there again, thats a dick move especially if u could have gone to other place even then other 2 survs are working on gens so is likely u will btring the killer to another survivor, is what it is the maps are getting smaller and smaller after all.
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All the time, i see a Meg below level 10 i leave and even 10 is not enough most times, claudettes, a couple of 2 man swf with flashlights (usually trying to copy their favourite streamer and fails misserably costing everyone the game cause the killer results to not be a baby), prestigie 0? im leaving unless i can see your profile and hours. 2 flashlights in general? also leaving, tahts a free win for the killer because its 3 v 2, i blocked u before? may leave especially if i recognize your name.. i dodge till i see what it seems a decent lobby and even then u will sweat your ass of in order to win the game because is solo q or 2 man swf.
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@Beatricks said:
Game's been incredibly unstable since around the Knight was released. Spaghetti code probably.
Its not a surprise to me, im not the only one complaining i saw other posts before in the last weeks but BHVR rather keep as it is even when the DC penalty can escalate quickly if u have 1 or 2 dcs a day without your fault, it is what it is.
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just a daily reminder that the game servers are trash snd keeps crashing consistently.
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@HugTechLover said:
My opinion is Dead hard is fine how it is. It’s easy to counter and is equally rewarding to a survivor if they pull it off successfully.
If u play blight everything is easy however for m1 killers its a problem when close to structures.
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U know u are at high mmr when the only thing u see is nurse or blight sometimes spirit (and now that is bugged and its been for a month already even more) in 6 out of 10 matches. If not more. Even if i win the night will be short since i will be tired after the third game sometimes i want to chill not sweat to win a game still im forced to sweat every game doesnt mean i want to lose and lose my items, but many times i will leave out of boredom or tireness. Then u hit reality even if u kill on hook u are against the same ######### over and over again since mmr doesnt go down easily. Sometimes i miss the old one since u may have a rough game but then u could get a more chill game if u saw lower ranks but now is hell after hell after hell
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@Mr_K said:
Back in my day game crashes actually cost you something. Kids these days don't know how good they have it.
???.
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@BlueRose said:
I'm just sad killers is getting yet another useless perk that won't see the light of day after tomorrow. It joins perks like FC, dying light, thana, ruin, and pop. Never good when a perk is nerfed to complete uselessness on either side. Looking forward to seeing the "nerf CoB + Overcharge" and "nerf pain res" threads that will pop up in a couple of weeks.
people havent complained about cob and pain in a long time people dont really care about those since they have fair counterplay after all.
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wouldnt help killers would just have more time to tunnel survivors. u are not understanding the fact u can not change how some play what u can do is punish it greatly to incentivize it, humans learn by punish we remember punish and tend to avoid things that hurt a good punishment could discourage doing it, it used to with old DS to a certain degree.
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Dh can be very annoying as it is having to spend 5 seconds to get the hit becuase the survivor starts spinning trying to get it and sometimes they may by pure patience... is annoying.
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@Brokenbones said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3360896#Comment_3360896
Perks do not fix core game design issues
BHVR considers tunnelling a valid part of the game, instead of changing that - they instead provide perks to help deal with it. DS was also a perk you had to fork out money for. It's not like DS was a free perk anyone could get
not saying anything i didnt know. u wouldnt create nothing to counter tunneling if u thought it was great and fine. u just dont want to deal with the hassle it means if u change it, so u change it indirectly.... now u also have the basekit 10 seconds BT after so many years of complaining, and to be fair i think there is more to come for tunneling.
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@Steakdabait said:
tunneling has always been the meta since 1v3 is an autowin for killer 95% of the time.
You don't need to tunnel to win consistently, saying so is simply and objectively wrong.
about the 95% debatable many times 3 v 1 is easily winnable when killer focuses way too much in one, as long as tehre arent more than 2 to 3 gens is still very doable. unless is nurse or something very strong
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@Brokenbones said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3359063#Comment_3359063
It stands to reason that if tunnelling was a problem in the devs eyes, it would've been rectified years ago
but it hasn't, so it's not a problem. (To the devs)
this is not right because if it was right devs would never had implemented Decisive in 2016 when the game just came out, and many other perks that helps with tunneling even if old ds was dumb but remained till 2018 like that.
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the only thing i would really change apart from him being able to grab u even if u already vaulted wich is horse ######### (i dont know if its a bug or what but damn annouyig) is the fact that he can tunnel free with the 8% reduction if u are infected and with his power u will have troubles to make it to places and if on top of that we have to consider the horse ######### he is right now with the grabbing u when he shouldnt is just mnaking it worse, so mayb we can change that other than that, he is fine
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Wesker is fine. The only thing i Hate about him is the fact that he can grab u even if u already half vaulted the loop he grabs u back is so f dumb. Other than that he has fair counterplay id rather verse 10 wesker in a row than a damn nurse or blight.
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@Eelanos said:
Considering I spent my last 3 matches yesterday slugged for the 4k and my only 3 matches today also slugged for the 4k, yeah, I'm kinda not having fun right now.
Losing is one thing, but being forced to stay in a lost game bleeding to death so the killer can go hunt another player genuinely angers me.
People keep asking why players disconnect, but it's really no wonder people disconnect as often in this game when the optimal strategy is supressing the enemy so they can't do anything.
i always brign Unbrekable for this very reason so i dont deal with that bullshit on top of that a fairly strong Medkit i never remove any of those 2 of my build..
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dont think so, pain resonance unlike eruption has fair counerplay u can see a survivor is getting hoked unless u are blinded by an addon from the killer or perk, otherwise is fairly counterable so no.. Eruption is dumb thats everything im gonna say about eruption.
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@Marik1987 said:
When I get the same map 3 times a row, I think its no surprise if i run Map Offerings after that. However, BHVR fix this in the upcoming patch, so I assume the Offerings will drop in their usage rate by default... besides the Bully-Squads who offers McMillain every game.
fun, because mac millan maps tend to be killer sided with maps like Shelter woods, coal tower, soffocation pit,
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i have like a generic build that i use in most killers with some changes liek SBFL in m1 killers for example but not all the time, i guess if i had to say one would be tanatophobia if its Plague...but the rest i dont really change my builds, Corrupt Intervention, No Way Out, Deadlock (Used to run Eruption but i got in the this thing is gonan get nerfed AND IT WAS, so i got rid of it plenty of time ago so i dont have to rely on it anymore and learn to play without survivors in my lobby being useless for 25 seconds consistently) and then it may change a bit depending on the Killer. Sometimes i may even add NOED isntead of SBFL if im feeling like im seeing a Rough Lobby works wonders with No Way Out..