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@Northener1907 said:
Because Yun is not interesting, that's all. Her perks are not so good. Her story is good but that is not single player game. So we did read and finished. She is not different than any survivor.
And if i don't remember wrong Laurie was selfish survivor?
I don’t recall anytime Laurie was really selfish in the films.
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@alex9er said:
Her perks are bad and when trickster came out he was also bad.of course people forgot about her
I disagree with this completely. Self preservation is bad, yes, but smash hit and fast track while not meta, still have potential to win games.
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I’ve been thinking the same lately. I get that there can’t be too many strong loops to give the killers a fair chance, but there’s so many dead zones and pallets with barely any debris surrounding it that it feels like you have to run back to shack 10 times a game.
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@Heartbound said:
Yeah you have to scratch the surface to figure out who the All-Kill survivor is. I think even Jane got more attention in the reveal trailer for The Plague.
I know survivors at their core are just reskins, but it would be cool to see survivor skits and trailers in the same vein as "Meet the X" Team Fortress 2 does.
It feels like an especially odd decision given the amount of players that main survivor, and their cosmetics sell very well.
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Unbreakable is also a mostly one time perk, yet it’s one of the most powerful tools a survivor can use.
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Absolutely the best skin ever made for Huntress, and one of the best in general.
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Sole survivor is the most worthless perk in the game, along with buckle up. At least no mither is a good meme. They could at least have it come into play when your team gets hooked, not killed. At least then it would have some value.
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I don’t see any killer bullied as much at red ranks than the twins.
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Seem to be yes, at least I didn’t have an issue stunning them.
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@OnryosTapeRentals said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2163021#Comment_2163021
Yeah no thanks.
That comment missed the mark completely; I wouldn't say comparing LGBTQ+ (or "LBQT" as they put it) identities with political issues, white supremacy and "amputee p*rn" is "golden".
Right. They were complaining about their comments being taken the wrong way, but how are we meant to feel about LGBTQ+ being added to the game being compared to adding a Trump supporter?
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It’s not really an actual thing, if survivors aren’t being pressured in a chase or to save their team, what else are they supposed to do? Cleanse dull totems?
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Here we go...
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I know it’s never going to happen, but I’d die for a gay pride Quentin skin.
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@PeaceNGrease said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2162800#Comment_2162800
He's doctor good? Are we saying that? Doctor denies loops and has in-built delayechanics, not to mention revers skill checks. Demo is just a 1v1 killer without range. I'm trying to be positive, but the more I play this killer, the more I'm starting to think he's like Hillbilly.
"Oh, he's fine, there's nothing wrong with this killer. The nerfs didn't effect him at all. Do I play the killer alot? What a strange question, of course not"
Or maybe he needs his add ons to be good, idk
Demo can also deny loops and zone survivors outside without doing anything, from fear of his shreds. He also has much better map mobility than doctor with his teleports. They both have their own strengths and weaknesses.
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@JimboMason said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2162873#Comment_2162873
Pretty much what I mean, I want there to be purpose within the details, not just lazy inputs.
I think that it would be great if they had a new character that had their sexuality as an important factor in making them who they are, such as Yui’s experiences with stalking and violence against women.
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@Brokenbones said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2162879#Comment_2162879
I don't think so
Did you read Nurse's Tome? The whole Eugenics controversy?
It was really out of place and tone-deaf.
This.
Her tome was clearly not thought out well as there should have been clear signs that this was a betrayal of the character and extremely unpleasant, even for a horror game.
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@JimboMason said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2162816#Comment_2162816
I'd rather there be a reason for things to be the way they are so the community can further relate or understand to a character, scenario, etc., not something that's just thrown in for the hell of it. Also, wasn't Trapper's dad's mine where he killed his employees, and how Evan came to be who we know him in the game?
Someone’s experience with their sexuality can also have a direct impact on who they are.
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@B_Random said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2162694#Comment_2162694
I mean he could be, you don't know. I'm also sorry that when I think of a gay person, I usually default to the very flamboyant types, since the gay people I've met are very flamboyant. So is it really my fault to have a slight thought that maybe Trickster is either Bi or Gay? Is that wrong of me to think that? I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but I'm just saying.
It’s not wrong to think that he could be, but it’s also not really a good thing to assume.
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@OnryosTapeRentals said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2162740#Comment_2162740
"It's nice to have other people on the side of representation."
This.
I know I haven't really interacted with either of you directly but I'd just like to thank you and @Orion for being awesome. It's incredibly heartwarming to see both your input on this.
You have both explained your points so eloquently and expressed in words many of my own feelings that I wasn't sure how to word.
Again, thank you both for being a source of positivity on these forums because it can definitely be overwhelming on here sometimes! <3
Thank you! Feel free to give your input anytime, even if it’s messy, there’s still value in it.
I have suffered a lot as a gay person, the abuse I received from it led to me having severe anxiety. Even after it stopped, it still impacts me. That’s why I’m super passionate about this, because the first time I saw real queer representation is when I realised I was gay. It ######### matters.
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I feel like Huntress’ new ultra rare would be better if the increase in speed was based on how many hatchets she had less. For example, if she had 4, she’d move at 111%, if she had 3, it would be 112%, etc. Make it a bit more interactive for the player and slightly more useful.
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@PigMainBigBrain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2162719#Comment_2162719
Maybe I am overthinking it but....I don't have faith bruh. Theres too many fails and bugs and complete #########'s in the lore for me to put faith that they do it right. Don't even get me started on that Kpop atrocity. Normal ass human killer....smh...
To be fair with the kpop stuff, Yun Jin’s lore was pretty fantastic.
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@JimboMason said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2162375#Comment_2162375
Unless there is a purpose behind a homo relationship, such as Sally and her husband Andrew, or Felix and his girlfriend (although this one is debatable), love interest is not really needed in this game. We can promote diversity and representation within the game with the use of charms, character cosmetics, events, etc.
Why can’t we have representation in all of these ways? Why does it have to be one or the other?
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@PeaceNGrease said:
I don't know what it is about him. I can work with any other killers power. I can 4K with Trapper at least 60% of the time in reds, but no matter what, I can't ever do shot with this killer. Maybe I'm not perk synergiesing, maybe it's something about his undetectable being uselessly stupid because you can hear his footsteps 30 feet away, idk. I know someone likes him and gets results, but he's hardly ever mentioned amongst worst killers, and I just don't get why?
Demo never sucked for starters. With his buffs, he’s firmly a mid tier killer who is one of the most balanced in the game at the moment. I’d say Ghostface and Doctor are two other examples of killers that give both sides a fair shot.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2162752#Comment_2162752
That's where you're wrong, it'd definitely be pandering. Everything is pandering, as a matter of fact. Silent Hill chapter is pandering to SH fans. Evil Dead chapter is pandering to Evil Dead fans. However, "pandering" only becomes a dirty word when it's for LGBT characters. It's like saying "expat" instead of the more apt term "immigrant" depending on the country of origin.
Fair enough. I should’ve worded what I was saying better. Was mainly just trying to use the argument to set up the swimsuit joke lol
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@slipttees said:
Just play. All are Human. Bye
Demo says hello
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Oh, and having a queer character wouldn’t be pandering. If they were trying to pander they’d have released swimsuit cosmetics for David, Jake, Felix, Quentin, etc
Wouldn’t be mad about it though
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2162715#Comment_2162715
That was definitely not my intention, and if anyone feels that way, I apologize for not being clear.
I definitely don’t feel that way about what you were saying! I really appreciate your input on all of this, it’s nice to have other people on the side of representation
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2162670#Comment_2162670
My gay boyfriend has a high-pitched voice (at least higher pitched than the norm) and can't grow a beard. Believe me, I have no problems with stereotypical gay people. However, it is a fact that the stereotypes are the ones that get featured the most. Let's get some non-stereotypical representation going, yeah?
Oh, I totally agree. I wasn’t saying we should have stereotypical representation. It’s just it feels like there’s a mindset in this thread that stereotypical gay people are lesser, which isn’t ok.
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@B_Random said:
We got Trickster, isn't that enough for you?
There is nothing in the lore that says anything about him being gay. If you’re implying he is because of how he dresses/acts, you might want to rethink what you’re saying.
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Also, there is nothing wrong with ‘feminine’ or ‘obvious’ gay people. The idea that every queer character has to have their sexuality only kept to an obscure reference to avoid pandering is homophobic, even in other gay people. Internalised homophobic exists, the ‘I’m not like other gays’ is not a healthy mindset.
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Lots of people seemed riled up over us wanting a single line of lore to acknowledge that gay people exist
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Also, this should go without saying, but being against intolerance doesn’t make you intolerant. It’s just not accepting that bigotry is an acceptable standpoint.
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@miketheratguy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2161144#Comment_2161144
Your argument assumes that what you think is okay is more important than what someone else might think is okay. That because something may be a huge part of your life it has to be a huge part of the games you play.
But I've realized that I can't win with you either. You've misquoted me and put words in my mouth such as "gays shouldn't be in the media and if they are they're being shoved down my throat". That completely misconstrues my argument and I never said anything of the sort. If you're not referring to me, I'd be curious as to who you are.
I've said my peace, I'm exhausted being forced to defend what I consider to be rational views on the basis that they don't happen to align 00 percent with yours, even if we're in agreement on the end result. Mock me, block me, whatever you like. I've been as polite as I can manage and my comments are still being picked apart. I feel that this thread has demonstrated multiple times that for claims of wanting nothing more than inclusion and acceptance, there is a surprising rush to judgment and notable lack of tolerance on display.
Regarding to your second paragraph, I was not at all referring to you and I find it somewhat comical that you assumed I was when I never mentioned anyone specifically. It is extremely common for minorities to hear that their existence is being forced onto others in media.
Quite frankly, it seems like you are the one misquoting me.
It is not about what I think is ‘okay’, I have no tolerance for people who are homophobic. I don’t need to listen to their view point, nor respect it. Before you jump to conclusions, I am not calling you homophobic, but people who are homophobic are objectively bigots and no argument can justify that.
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Her best add ons (iri head and exhaustion hatchets) were nerfed, this is for sure an overall nerf to her.
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The trapper needs a buff more than the trickster does right now.
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One of the best changes of the patch honestly
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@brokedownpalace said:
You know what I find funny? The people who very much do not care even a little bit about sexuality or gender identity in video games going through 12 pages of comments to upvote all the randoms who are also swearing they don't care.
If you didn't actually care you wouldn't have clicked on this thread at all.
@brokedownpalace said:
You know what I find funny? The people who very much do not care even a little bit about sexuality or gender identity in video games going through 12 pages of comments to upvote all the randoms who are also swearing they don't care.
If you didn't actually care you wouldn't have clicked on this thread at all.
Period. There’s plenty of other threads for them to go into, but they seem to be obsessed with this one out of them all. Pretty telling.
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Considering this thread is for people to express their support for a LGBTQ+ character in DBD, I’m not sure why those of you coming in here specifically to cause an argument get mad when we defend our position. If sexuality doesn’t matter to you, that’s your perspective, but that doesn’t give you the right to invalidate how we feel.
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@Lunarknight said:
Imagine caring about a fictional characters sexual preference
Your comment seems to imply you do in fact care :)
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We aren’t asking for much, all it would take is a line or two in a character’s lore. This isn’t too much to ask.
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@FogNoob said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160845#Comment_2160845
Do you mean in he sense you can;t use your medkit for healing?
It still gives you a way to heal, in any case... it just comes with the downside of giving the killer it's power. If you could just use your medkit to get rid of the infection it would be too strong, I think. But I see your point.
Yes, it gives you a way of healing but if you brought a purple medkit with great add ons, it gets completely wasted.
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@CluelessWanderer said:
As a gay person myself, whenever these topics come up I just cringe and want to crawl under a rock and hide.
Gay people get hooked and die the same way as straight people. A gay sociopathic killer is just as murder-y. I couldn't care less to have "representation" in the pool of people running for their lives from a chainsaw wielding freak.
I'm so sick of the militant push by a small minority of people to shove to rainbow into everything lol.
I understand your perspective, but just because something isn’t important to you, why does it mean it can’t hold value for others?
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Someone’s sexual orientation can be important to people without it being their entire identity. It has a huge impact on our life experiences, so shoving it aside as ‘unimportant’ is not okay.
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TLOU2 ending
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@RoboMojo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2161090#Comment_2161090
I’m glad we’re in agreement then! Here’s hoping they stick to their word and do something soon. Although now that Pride month is soon on the horizon, they may just wait to give rep then. It would be kind of insulting I imagine that it took them a year to do it but hey, it came eventually right? Considering how slow Behaviour are at literally everything, it may not have been a personal slight against the lgbt community, or at least I hope it wasn’t.
June is the resident evil dlc though :/ we’ll have to wait a while for anything more than the upcoming gay charm
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It’s honestly always funny to me when people say they ‘don’t care’ if someone is gay, but will write a novel about why media shouldn’t have gay people and if it does, it’s woke, forcing it down their throats, etc.
Horror has always been a genre with a large queer fan base, and that should be represented in DBD.
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@Zixology said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2161049#Comment_2161049
That's not true?
This game is about sex now??
They actually listened on Twitter and added sex to DBD?
Nobody was talking about sex? Having queer characters doesn’t mean there will be sex scenes in the game. It just means a character would have lore that acknowledges that they are LGBTQ+ and it really isn’t a big deal considering some of the DBD characters are explicitly straight.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160991#Comment_2160991
i really don't mean to be rude here but, uh...
yikes.
that's all i can really say to that. yikes.
no offence, but, yikes.
Yeah, totally disgusting comment that hopefully will be removed
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@miketheratguy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160960#Comment_2160960
You're conflating.
Am I conflating the fact that you said telling other people that discrimination is bad? Queer people and other minorities are tired of having to fight for equality. We’ve made the same arguments 1000s of times, and change has not happened quick enough. You must understand that when you make arguments like this, you are not helping us progress forwards. There is no room for bigots, and even in a game like DBD, representation does matter.
Please reflect on what you are saying
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Ultimately, the issues with Freddy and Twins are on BHVR, not the people who main them.