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Yeah rank system is far from being perfect, but players won't get any better by dodging.@ad19970 said:I understand the frustration. But do consider players that aren't good enough to face these kind of teams yet still are rank 1 because of the messed up rank system. I agree though it's a problem. But the best solution would be for the devs to improve on the imbalance between solo and swf survivors.
In this case rank or teams weren't the problem (since i was playing solo and they couldn't see my rank).
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Thank you.@yeet said: -
Well maybe they should stop playing PvP games then.@yeet said:you aren't entitled to have people play against you if they don't want to
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Indeed lol. But i can't help it, i've been dodged enough times to make me make a thread about it (and i got patience).@ShrimpTwiggs said:This whole comment chain is a mess. Why can't this playerbase have one discussion that doesn't devolve into arguments? I swear, you could make a post about chicken fingers and eventually there'll be an argument.
Honeslty, i don't get why people keep dodging everything they don't like. Do they realize this is just a damn game? -
Sorry but i play solo 50% of the times, i don't even know why are you trying to deny it. Look for threads about lobbydodgers, i'm not the only one here.@Paddy4583 said:
Well idk who I’m playing with either as I don’t play SWF so it’s always random.Vietfox said:
I'd rather be dodged as well IF it didn't take 1 hour to get a match when playing solo.@Paddy4583 said:I’d rather be dodged in lobby then load into game, and have 3 survivors DC because of ruin or they don’t like the killer... that happens way more often then a lobby dodge
Idk who you play with but i (almost) never get 3 DCs in a single match. Makes me think you are just exaggerating.
You Almost never get 3 DCs and I never wait an hour for a lobby or get dodged 9/10 times,
so guess we must both be lying, because it’s impossible that we can have a different experience. -
I'd rather be dodged as well IF it didn't take 1 hour to get a match when playing solo.@Paddy4583 said:I’d rather be dodged in lobby then load into game, and have 3 survivors DC because of ruin or they don’t like the killer... that happens way more often then a lobby dodge
Idk who you play with but i (almost) never get 3 DCs in a single match. Makes me think you are just exaggerating. -
Ask to @Doc_W__HOLLIDAY @OrionsFury4789 or @PhantomMask20763 . The know me.@witulo said:@Vietfox said:
I've been playing solo for the last 4 hours and i've been dodged in 9 out of 10 lobbies. Seriously, uninstall DbD and go play something else.
Some of you will say "oh, maybe they saw 4 survivors spawn at the same time". Some did, but MANY others saw me alone in the lobby, then TWO more spawning at the same time and then leave.
Seriously lobbydodgers, grow a damn pair. This is getting ridiculous.
Try playing a killer against a four man swf team, then come back here. "hint" You'll have a different opinion!
Try play killer? Dude, i'm a rank 1 killer every month, the hell are you talking about?
And everyone here has a six pack, a job that pay six figure salary, and a gorgeous top model boyfriend or girlfriend. Sure mate, ok! hehe
You can also trust this outdated screenshot (because i'm using my cellphone)
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Yeah apparently now survivors spawn at the same time, but even if they dont they still get lobbydodged. Hilarious.@TAG said:I thought they implemented a matchmaking system thing that made it much harder to detect SWF or something? -
No one is talking about MLGA.twistedmonkey said:Wll this thread shows is a double standard and the devs need to sort it.
It's wrong to dodge on two fronts.
Firstly players are dodging not just for ping but because they do not like something should stop playing, it's a game each and everything in it is fair game, I'd bet eaxh one who dodges would think MLGA is unfair if they got dodged most of their games for how they play.
Secondly it's shooting yourself in the foot as it removes the stats the devs need for balancing, if only the good killer versus these players with toolboxes etc and still do well it shows they are balanced.
Dodging because of ping is fine because it's not a game feature. Swf and items ARE a game feature.
When i play as a killer i never dodge, why can't they do the same?
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Rank means something though. You can tell the difference when u play against rank 1 and rank 15 players.@Dokta_Carter said:
Ah but @Vietfox, rank means nothing unless your new to the game, then your opinion only matters if you get to rank 1... Oh wait parodox here?Vietfox said:
Try play killer? Dude, i'm a rank 1 killer every month, the hell are you talking about?@witulo said:@Vietfox said:
I've been playing solo for the last 4 hours and i've been dodged in 9 out of 10 lobbies. Seriously, uninstall DbD and go play something else.
Some of you will say "oh, maybe they saw 4 survivors spawn at the same time". Some did, but MANY others saw me alone in the lobby, then TWO more spawning at the same time and then leave.
Seriously lobbydodgers, grow a damn pair. This is getting ridiculous.Try playing a killer against a four man swf team, then come back here. "hint" You'll have a different opinion!
I agree on lobby dodging tho, if you want to get better dont run off.
*edit: screw my phone
Yeah, rank 1 players can do some dumb stuff, but not as often as rank 15 players.
Rank means how much time you've played that game, but the more time you spent the better you are (most of the times) -
It wasnt because of that, i know that for sure.βLAKE said:or maybe the ping was bad?
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@Mister_xDMister_xD said:@SenzuDuck said:
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sorry, but im not interested in a round with 2 or more toolboxes (i dont run ruin), 2 or more medkits (ive gotten instahealed so many times now, i actually dodge these. its annoying. you down someone and he's instantly back at full health .-.) or 2 or more flashlights (maybe ill play the round, maybe not).also, i might just not be in the mood to play against certain people. i know some names by now and sometimes (especially if its my first round of the day) i do not want to play against these, as they would completely demolish me.
or sthg irl happened and i had to close the lobby.
and here are a ton of reasons, besides the common "SWF group" reason. i usually dont dodge these btw.
Killer complain about self care, then complain when survivors use medkits to heal because it "might" have an insta on it, good god,
i dont complain about medkits, i complain abut the instaheal add ons, as ive had a ton of toxic swf groups with their 4 medkits and instaheals annoy me in the past.
before the winter event dropped, i never dodged this item, but then some people just had to carry it to excess and thats my answer.
when the general number of instaheals decreased, i will probaply play against them again, but right now there are too many of these things around. (ill still dodge when its an obvious SWF group though)
I don't complain about iridescent heads, infinite EW3, judiths tombstone, etc... Why do killers complain about instaheals? -
Try play killer? Dude, i'm a rank 1 killer every month, the hell are you talking about?@witulo said:@Vietfox said:
I've been playing solo for the last 4 hours and i've been dodged in 9 out of 10 lobbies. Seriously, uninstall DbD and go play something else.
Some of you will say "oh, maybe they saw 4 survivors spawn at the same time". Some did, but MANY others saw me alone in the lobby, then TWO more spawning at the same time and then leave.
Seriously lobbydodgers, grow a damn pair. This is getting ridiculous.Try playing a killer against a four man swf team, then come back here. "hint" You'll have a different opinion!
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You are making a big deal out of that. 2 toolboxes, seriously?@Mister_xD said:sorry, but im not interested in a round with 2 or more toolboxes (i dont run ruin), 2 or more medkits (ive gotten instahealed so many times now, i actually dodge these. its annoying. you down someone and he's instantly back at full health .-.) or 2 or more flashlights (maybe ill play the round, maybe not).
also, i might just not be in the mood to play against certain people. i know some names by now and sometimes (especially if its my first round of the day) i do not want to play against these, as they would completely demolish me.
or sthg irl happened and i had to close the lobby.
and here are a ton of reasons, besides the common "SWF group" reason. i usually dont dodge these btw.
If i was that picky i would had uninstalled DbD long ago. -
Yeah i know, lobbydodgers are the main reason why i'm taking a damn break from this game from time to time. I'll say it again, go play something else lobbydodgers and let the other killers give to survivors a damn match. Idk, go play sims or minecraft.@OrionsFury4789 said:You already know how I feel about this my friend that's why I've not been on , who wants to wait 4 hours and only get one game? I wish the people defending it would realize not all players are as dedicated as us on here and it's literally killing the game for any new players wanting to try it even with dedicated servers if they don't fix the Dodge this game is on a downward spiral , we didn't realize this was a 2 in 1 game with lobby simulator 5000 being the requirement just to enjoy the real game -
Adrenaline is an endgame perk, meaning that survivors gotta play with 3 perks most of the time. If you don't like it kill them before Adrenaline triggers, problem solved.
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I would say Quentin.
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I'm sure i've missed quite a few replies lol.@RuneStarr said:Good tip!
Plus you can always use desktop mode on your browser but it kind of sucks haha.
Lastly, vanity search yourself if you want to see a bunch of mentions/replies you missed from mobile users. Always fun to see someone trying to argue with you from 2 months ago
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Console nurse is hard but not impossible, last season (month) i managed to get her to rank 2 (didnt have enough time to play).@MegaWaffle said:@Vietfox said:
@MegaWaffle said:@Vietfox said:
Different maps instead of getting the same one over and over? Sure, who would be against it?
I'm against it. There is nothing I ....enjoy....more than deciding to give console Nurse another go only to get Lery's Memorial Treatment Theater.
You monster.
I don't understand why Lery's map is so hated by survivors as well, i'm a survivor main and i love that map. Might be small but it's so easy to juke killers there.Oh don't get me wrong I love the map but I only ever get it when I decide to play Nurse. Let me tell you PS4 Nurse is bad enough without that damn hospital.
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You monster.@MegaWaffle said:@Vietfox said:
Different maps instead of getting the same one over and over? Sure, who would be against it?I'm against it. There is nothing I ....enjoy....more than deciding to give console Nurse another go only to get Lery's Memorial Treatment Theater.
I don't understand why Lery's map is so hated by survivors as well, i'm a survivor main and i love that map. Might be small but it's so easy to juke killers there. -
I know it was a joke, i'm ######### but not that #########@Rebel_Raven said:
What? I mean once you find all the parts, and where it landed, I'm sure you can repair it just fine.Vietfox said:
That seems fair and balanced.@Rebel_Raven said:Yes, we need more damage done to generators. Like this:

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Good survivors can deal with that, all 4 solo survivors need to be 200 IQ though.@fluffybunny said:@Vietfox said:
@fluffybunny said:That'd probably be pretty bad if the killer got a three gen strat going on. There's supposed to be hope for the survivors, lore-wise. If there isn't a chance to escape 'cause the killer can take a chunk off the generator, it would create a situation where winning could be unlikely.
An additional objective could be quite a lot of fun, though, and liven up the gameplay. I'm up for different game modes, too! That would be cool.

It's survivor's fault to let the 3 gen strat happen.
Yeah, I know, but it'd be even easier to do if killers take off a chunk every time they kick the gens. What's to keep them from chilling by three gens that are close enough together?
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That seems fair and balanced.@Rebel_Raven said:Yes, we need more damage done to generators. Like this:
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Oh really? (Nicolas Cage face)@Peanits said:(Worth noting that @yourself will literally tag a so far nonexistent person named "yourself", so you should replace 'yourself' with your actual name on the forums, in case that wasn't clear.)
I've brought this up though, hopefully it will be fixed soon.
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Some people are just not aware of the tagging issue, meaning that you don't get any notification if someone is replying you from a cellphone even if they want you to read it, that's why i tried to provide a solution.@FoggyDownpour said:You can still tag people, you just have to do it manually. If those people don't tag me, then they don't need a response. I sub to all the threads I'm interested in watching develope anyways, so I don't really have a problem with it. -
Rocket League is a crossplatform game but you can't invite friends from different platforms, so i'm not sure if that will ever happen even if DbD does the same.
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If survivors are smart enough they won't let that happen.@redsopine01 said:
Not all the time I go it a game and see who if 3 gens are close togeather and I just go nuts defending them and making it my game lolVietfox said:
It's survivor's fault to let the 3 gen strat happen.fluffybunny said:That'd probably be pretty bad if the killer got a three gen strat going on. There's supposed to be hope for the survivors, lore-wise. If there isn't a chance to escape 'cause the killer can take a chunk off the generator, it would create a situation where winning could be unlikely.
An additional objective could be quite a lot of fun, though, and liven up the gameplay. I'm up for different game modes, too! That would be cool.

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It's survivor's fault to let the 3 gen strat happen.@fluffybunny said:That'd probably be pretty bad if the killer got a three gen strat going on. There's supposed to be hope for the survivors, lore-wise. If there isn't a chance to escape 'cause the killer can take a chunk off the generator, it would create a situation where winning could be unlikely.
An additional objective could be quite a lot of fun, though, and liven up the gameplay. I'm up for different game modes, too! That would be cool.

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You said not all killers are a one shot killers, never talked about how much time takes to get 4K. Please reread.@PandaChris said:@Vietfox said:
Any killer can be a 1 shot killer with the right perks.What perks allow a killer to 1 shot all game and finish the game within 3 minutes?
@Vietfox said:
You haven't said anything yet about nerfing Iridescent heads.Because this isnt about nerfing iredescent heads or certain addons. You might have to reread or have someone explain the point of this conversation to you cause i cannot keep repeating.
This isn't about nerfing IH, but if you think ending a match in less that 3 minutes is broken, unfair or whatever then that's why i'm asking you what do you think about IH. Please reread. -
Because they got a good map pressure with the current gen speed. If we increase the time it takes to repair gens that means we are buffing them indirectly.Gardenia said:
Why do Billy or Nurse need to be nerfed? In regards to generator damage?@Vietfox said:I would be down for this, but if devs nerf the gen speed they should also nerf killers who do well with the current system, like Billy or Nurse. -
As you can see the video showed 4K in less than 3 minutes, Tru3's video shows FOUR (not 5) gens done in 3 minutes, so in this case took less time to get 4K than getting 4 gens done.@PandaChris said:Twistedmonkey said:
What can happen and what does happen are always two different scenarios.I fully understand that. But you are now talking about % chance. What is more likely, getting gen rushed or having a huntress with not only Iridescent Head but with the combination that gives them 3 1 shot down hatchets. So i feel its flawed to say, ya you might get gen rushed 20% of the time (random number) but thats okay cause you might get a huntress with that loadout 5% of the time. Both can happen sure but that doesnt mean they should be compared just because they "can" happen.
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You said before that ending matches in so little time is unbalanced, does that mean then that devs should nerf iridescent heads? I don't think killer mains would like that. I'm not a killer main and i think IH are fine.
Some survivors don't like being slugged, but we can't please everyone, right? People need to tell the difference between something being unfair and annoying. If devs nerfed everything that is annoying Doctor would be gone by now.Just look for more videos, i'm sure you can find them yourself.
I never said that matches ending in so little time is unbalanced. Please do not put words in my mouth. I said if one side can end a game within 3 minutes and the other side also can but it takes 5-6 minutes then isnt that unbalanced? I never stated i feel its unbalanced. I was pointing out from a numbers stand point that something might be off.
Then you showed me a video of a killer who has specific set of addons who can 1 shot down from range as a counter argument.
The problem here is any set of 4 survivors can gen rush and we have how many killers that can 1 shot down for the whole game? Maybe if each killer had the ability to 1 shot down then then your example would hold more merit.
Any killer can be a 1 shot killer with the right perks.
I, for instance, am a hag main (not one shot killer) and only 1 out of 20 matches survivors manage to get all 5 gens done.
You haven't said anything yet about nerfing Iridescent heads.
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Those weren't minor mistakes, but whatever.@DwightsLifeMatters said:@Vietfox said:
@PandaChris said:
Does anyone have a recent killer video of highish ranks where the killer kills everyone in 3 minutes?In less than 3 minutes:
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i think the point was should the objectives be able to get done in 3 minutes (roughly) even when the killer makes a few mistakes?Mistakes are what make you lose and that sounds fair to me, like when you are looping the killer and get downed because you got stuck at the killer shack hook.
you compared true, who did decisions which are either mistakes or not and depended on the situation and these survivors who dont even know what BBQ does. minor mistakes (at best) vs huge mistakes of the survivors. eerrr yeaaaa
I've seen Tru3 playing and he's far from being good. Of course we can all make mistakes, but i saw him playing as a survivor and being chased by Billy. He was dropping every pallet while Billy was charging the chainsaw, what kind of experienced player does that? Any decent survivor knows that you gotta fake the drop and keep looping. -
I would be down for this, but if devs nerf the gen speed they should also nerf killers who do well with the current system, like Billy or Nurse.
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No, genrush is possible due to survivors working on different gens. Drop PT an run something else, like TINH (if you struggle with great skill checks or console player).
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You said before that ending matches in so little time is unbalanced, does that mean then that devs should nerf iridescent heads? I don't think killer mains would like that. I'm not a killer main and i think IH are fine.@PandaChris said:@Vietfox said:
In less than 3 minutes:Thanks for the video. So survivors have no issue with just being slugged? Is this the direction we want to go with the game? Not to mention he is downing with 1 hatchet throw using Iridescent Head.
Some survivors don't like being slugged, but we can't please everyone, right? People need to tell the difference between something being unfair and annoying. If devs nerfed everything that is annoying Doctor would be gone by now.
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I would like to suggest to have an in-game feature that whenever survivors get facecamped Netflix shows up on one side of the screen.
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I'm laughing my ass off 😂😂😂
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In less than 3 minutes:@PandaChris said:
Does anyone have a recent killer video of highish ranks where the killer kills everyone in 3 minutes?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=78uI6Q2wyAc
Mistakes are what make you lose and that sounds fair to me, like when you are looping the killer and get downed because you got stuck at the killer shack hook.PandaChris said:
i think the point was should the objectives be able to get done in 3 minutes (roughly) even when the killer makes a few mistakes? -
See how you didn't get notified on that reply? @TheMidnightRidr
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I call all of them "targets".
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Well, PvP games are like that, they require grinding. It's like when you do some pvp with a crappy armor against someone running a lvl 100 golden armor...@Rebel_Raven said:Vietfox said:
There are a few videos on YT as well where you can see killers ending the match with 4K in so little time, the key is to slug them all first and then hook them. It's not that difficult if survivors make mistakes, same for the killers when they get genrushed.@Rebel_Raven said:
That's a horrible comparison. The difficulty between gen rushing, and killing 4 survivors in 3 minutes is astronomical.@Vietfox said:
Would you say that killers are overpowered because they can kill all 4 survivors in 3 minutes? Probably not. If killers can do that it's because survivors screwed it up, same with the gens.@Rebel_Raven said:People complaining that he made mistakes, well [BAD WORD], we are human.
Blaming him for ot playing ultra optimal at all times?
So a killer has far less margin for error?
Yes we are all human and everyone makes mistakes, no one is discussing that, we are just pointing one of the reasons why he got genrushed like that.
Yeah, maybe if the stars align you can kill 4 survivors in 3 minutes, but gen rushing is vastly easier.
The survivors would basically have to charge the killer in a suicidal frenzy, and kill themselves on first hook practically .
Point out the reasons all you like but that doesn't change that it happens, and a lot of the reasons are more common than you would think.
I feel bad for anyone that feels like they have to play that optimally.
And some of these things pointed out as doing them wrong? Some killers can't avoid it thanks to RNG. Perks, I mean.
I've plenty of killers lacking ruin, for instance. Or monitor and abuse.
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There are a few videos on YT as well where you can see killers ending the match with 4K in so little time, the key is to slug them all first and then hook them. It's not that difficult if survivors make mistakes, same for the killers when they get genrushed.@Rebel_Raven said:
That's a horrible comparison. The difficulty between gen rushing, and killing 4 survivors in 3 minutes is astronomical.@Vietfox said:
Would you say that killers are overpowered because they can kill all 4 survivors in 3 minutes? Probably not. If killers can do that it's because survivors screwed it up, same with the gens.@Rebel_Raven said:People complaining that he made mistakes, well [BAD WORD], we are human.
Blaming him for ot playing ultra optimal at all times?
So a killer has far less margin for error?
Yes we are all human and everyone makes mistakes, no one is discussing that, we are just pointing one of the reasons why he got genrushed like that.
Yeah, maybe if the stars align you can kill 4 survivors in 3 minutes, but gen rushing is vastly easier.
The survivors would basically have to charge the killer in a suicidal frenzy, and kill themselves on first hook practically .
Point out the reasons all you like but that doesn't change that it happens, and a lot of the reasons are more common than you would think.
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Would you say that killers are overpowered because they can kill all 4 survivors in 3 minutes? Probably not. If killers can do that it's because survivors screwed it up, same with the gens.@Rebel_Raven said:People complaining that he made mistakes, well [BAD WORD], we are human.
Blaming him for ot playing ultra optimal at all times?
So a killer has far less margin for error?
Yes we are all human and everyone makes mistakes, no one is discussing that, we are just pointing one of the reasons why he got genrushed like that. -
@RoKrueger said:Mmmh. No, I will keep dodging. Thank you very much.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc68Zb6WIcw
