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This post is a quality onePotatoe_survivor said:I don't think anyone here actually understands the certification process because I see A LOT of speculation and anger regarding DLC disparity. I'll give you the in-depth version and if anyone has more specific questions feel free to ask.
Console certification depends on a myriad of factors from the volume of submissions by all devs to the certification department, to time of submission. The average time from submission to DLC drop is 5-7 days for MS, and up to 2 weeks for Sony.
The curtain call DLC was tested in house before being pushed to the PTB, then from the PTB everything was reworked, and finally pushed to PC June 12th. After that the proposed update (or in this case DLC AND update) is readied and sent to the different cert departments where it is independently tested by them for stability, bugs, issues etc. Each company has their own process but behavior has to wait on BOTH to be certified before they can release either for obvious reasons but most obvious is so they can avoid another howling grounds disaster where rushing the update literally broke the game on all platforms and required months of fixing.
So what likely happened is:
-In house testing (may-june)
-Ptb (june 1-11)
-Rework (during ptb)
-Push to PC June 12th
-Update sent to MS/Sony june 13/14
Again average turnaround is up to 2 weeks with Sony so the earliest you could expect it on either console is June 28th but since they have a double blood point event planned early July I wouldn't expect curtain call before July 2nd.
The only thing that really irks me is I know for a fact Sony stays in constant communication with any developer who issues a update for certification. They update the dev throughout the entire process from bugs found, to likely testing completion date and behavior COULD share that information with us if they wanted so we would feel less like an afterthought and more like a part of the community but since DBD started as a PC game and they only made console versions for the money they clearly don't think of us as that important.
I dont know the numbers, only they do, but I'm fairly confident more people play on pc than ps4/xb1 combined so we will forever be an afterthought.
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The reason this wait isn’t like to affect anything is because most people don’t know anything about the game. As in they don’t know the dev team they don’t follow the social medias or pc releases. They just don’t care enough about the game or gaming in general to do these things and I believe that’s the majority of console players. Like someone on Reddit thought their game was broken lol
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Community Managerabawgus2 said:@ThePloopz said:
mcallisterbritt said:How do you know it not post to be up yet?????????
Not queen said
who is Not Queen
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Also they said it wouldn’t be up again until console got updated
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Not queen saidmcallisterbritt said:How do you know it not post to be up yet?????????
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It’s not supposed to be up so that’s the reasonmcallisterbritt said:Yeah this is nuts I even tryed uninstalling the game and re-downloading it to see if it will fix it but Nope did not help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My guess is that because it’s not supposed to be up so different people are experiencing different things with it
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It was an accident on their end and should be taken down soon if it hasn’t been already
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If they did this I’d be pissed for the xbox players because they didn’t make pc wait so why make xbox waitdbz123god said:I feel bad for all ps4 for players because us xbox players are going to get it sooner. The way i would balance this is wait until all systems are ready then release it
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A pc player on Reddit said it wouldn’t let him buy any of the perksjessie_12 said:Oh wow. I guess if it is up on pc and anyone is able to buy anything they are lucky. It has lightborn, bond, quick & quiet, and save the best for last. I would hurry up and check it out if you are a PC player if you want any of these, because mine is currently still up. -
On ps4 it’s the new one I think it’s different for different people somehow because some people are saying it’s disabled for them.Russ76 said:just looked, because I was bored, and it still showing as the old shrine on XBox. -
The shrine is controlled by them I believe because they can change the perks every week without needing a patch so they can also change the prices without needing a patch. Removing the cap would require a patch. At least that’s my guessbortami said:
But that means the other statement has to be a fallacy.Noodle said:I asked about this on Queen's stream and she said this was an accident and wasn't supposed to happen today. She made another short comment about not expecting the shrine to stay up for long.
As in if they removed the max amount of shards we can get, then it would slow down certification.. because clearly this 2k shrine increase didn't slow it down, and was a clear quick patch? -
It could mean a couple things.1) consoles will get updated in a day or so 2) they did this accidentally 3)they straight up liedfcc2014 said:Pretty good so far. Please trolls come defend your masters. -
Didn’t they say they wouldn’t do this until consoles had their update? Was this purposely done?
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I think he means how it’s not rotating perks every weekShipthebread said:I used it on PS4 yesterday. did this happen today?
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It’s not disabled forever it’ll come back when the consoles are situated
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Yea I think if people knew more about the games that do simultaneous releases they’d understand more. Like I know overwatch can do them because they put in their cert while their ptr is up so they have plenty of time to work with on thatweirdkid5 said:
I get it if a lot of these players are say Fortnite players, which I am myself.ThePloopz said:
A lot of people probably come from games that do simultaneously releases so that’s what they’re probably used to. Then there’s the people who are just frustrated by multiple things and not just this aloneweirdkid5 said:Sigh updates for Warframe are still behind sometimes by month and the community is general patient and understanding.
This isnt BHVR fault. And no they shouldnt wait to release PC updates just to appease consoles players. That is called "console holding PC back" and is actually one of the quickest ways to kill your PC population.
Just. Be. Patient. You not giving them money isn't going to make MS or Sony make their cert process faster lol
But something they need to understand is that technically Fortnite is still in Beta. This allows them to take advantage of the less stringent Beta Cert process and it allows them to make weekly updates on point. Keeping Fortnite in beta is an incredibly smart business tactic, and nothing will change it unless MS and Sony change their cert processes. -
A lot of people probably come from games that do simultaneously releases so that’s what they’re probably used to. Then there’s the people who are just frustrated by multiple things and not just this aloneweirdkid5 said:Sigh updates for Warframe are still behind sometimes by month and the community is general patient and understanding.
This isnt BHVR fault. And no they shouldnt wait to release PC updates just to appease consoles players. That is called "console holding PC back" and is actually one of the quickest ways to kill your PC population.
Just. Be. Patient. You not giving them money isn't going to make MS or Sony make their cert process faster lol -
I really do think something made them fail cert or at least caused it to stall because of the “minor issue” part of their tweetDwight_Confusion said:I'm thankful that they let us know something. I would of liked this friday or yesterday, but I'm glad we got a heads up.
It's not good news for me as I'm on PS4. I'd say Xbox will get it this week for sure.
PS4? Probably next week and that is really really disappointing. If they don't get the new patch to us by the blood point event... it will taint my feelings towards this game and the devs.
I literally waited about 10 days before I even got wound up. I somewhat expected it to get released today... after 14 days.
So I'm officially upset and wound up. I get that it isn't their entire fault, but man... the wait is pretty annoying. I was really really hoping for today or at least this week by Friday. Now it seems next week at best... what a shame. I bet it comes out during the 2x bloodpoint event. That sucks.
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@fcc2014 I honestly believe something made the process slower than it was suppose to be whether it was a cert failure or whatever
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Check steamSenzuDuck said:@ThePloopz said:
SenzuDuck said:@Jack11803 said:
It’s already happened. Xbox got pig A SINGLE DAY EARLY. PS4 was dissapointed, and PC threw the biggest most pathetic temper tantrum in all of history. Just a single day of delay and they were more immature and pissed off than console RIGHT NOW.
I've yet to see anyone actually post any threads from reddit about the "temper tantrum" PC players pulled. Because I'm pretty sure it didn't happen. Theres been like 4+ posts every day about how awful BHVR is for not making MS/Sony magically certify the patch.
Wait so because you didn’t find it on reddit you believe it didn’t happen?
No, if there was such an outcry, someone would have had some threads about it that they commented on, wouldn't be that hard to find them, alas - no one has, or will. It's a made up situation so console players feel more comfortable constantly spamming this forum whining about things.
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Honestly that small patch will probably make things take longer so I wouldn’t want it or by the time it’d get through the update would be liveRuss76 said:that is awesome news for those of us on xbox. now can we have a small patch for PS4 to remove the cap on shards. While my thought isn't much and in no way compensation, at least it shows some love for PS4.. -
That’s your first mistake lmaoCaver12 said:They said Junnnneeee
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Wait so because you didn’t find it on reddit you believe it didn’t happen?SenzuDuck said:@Jack11803 said:
It’s already happened. Xbox got pig A SINGLE DAY EARLY. PS4 was dissapointed, and PC threw the biggest most pathetic temper tantrum in all of history. Just a single day of delay and they were more immature and pissed off than console RIGHT NOW.
I've yet to see anyone actually post any threads from reddit about the "temper tantrum" PC players pulled. Because I'm pretty sure it didn't happen. Theres been like 4+ posts every day about how awful BHVR is for not making MS/Sony magically certify the patch.
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If it takes that long I think it’s safe to say somebody screwed up something with the processMight_Oakk said:Gonna suk if no dlc for double bp
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I’ve only used the forums on my phone so I’d definitely prefer an app
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If you’re upset you’re justified in being upset, if you’re not you’re not upset you’re justified in not being upset. No side is wrong for they way they feel about the matter. Looking at the game’s history on console I understand why people are angry and feel like second class gamers, especially those who have been playing since the beginning and have continued to support it all this time.
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The only thing I was gonna buy was the chapter but since I saw the whole store, I don’t really like any of the cosmetics so I’ll just grind for it now so I can have something to work for
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LmaoooEpicFailTryHard said:Khalednazari said:I would lose my ######### if this turns out to be true. I really hope it isn't true at all.
please do such here. -
When the rumors are more interesting than the actual game smh sad times
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That supposedly on the sony side of things the patch was rejected and was resubmitted. And is set to come out July 3rdfcc2014 said:@ThePloopz said:
fcc2014 said:@ThePloopz said:
I thought this was gonna be a juicy thread judging by the title. It certainly did not disappoint
It turned into something that is for sure.
Did you see the newest rumor in the other thread?
No, what now?
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Did you see the newest rumor in the other thread?fcc2014 said:@ThePloopz said:
I thought this was gonna be a juicy thread judging by the title. It certainly did not disappointIt turned into something that is for sure.
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I thought this was gonna be a juicy thread judging by the title. It certainly did not disappoint
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See you can’t tell people to be patient when they’ve already been patient. It never works, it’s like telling someone who’s mad to calm downCoriander said:No one deserves to be fired over a "delay," I think we're dipping a little too far into first-world problems. Remember it's a small company and losing a member or two would be significant, not to mention any new person involved wouldn't know what's going on. It's likely one of the consoles, at least, will get the update soon, and it won't be their fault the other team doesn't have it yet. They know you want it, and they're trying to get it to you. Please be patient and know that you will be getting it at some point, don't worry!
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I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the caseJeeperrs said:Also they should have not waited until they released the update for PC that it was going to be delayed for everyone else. They should of stated that fact well before that so the rest of us could at least know where we stood in the timeline. Which is obviously different now than their Roadmap. There is obviously a Roadmap for PC and a separate Roadmap for everyone else. Im starting to think this company has set the bar too high for themselves that they cant reach.
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I haven’t played since the ptb ended because I didn’t want any of those crap perks in the shrine. Pretty sure everyone at this is at max bps and shardsKhalednazari said:Unlike PC players, we are just wasting our time by playing the game rn because we are already capped at 1000 shards, and the current shrine is full of ######### perks so don't even wish to spend them. -
This is very accuratebrokedownpalace said:Xbox and PS4 are DBD's ugly step children. -
Because of the mictrotransactions most likelysilverfoxlps said:
How come the developers from battle royal say they can now do same day certification on patches but it’s taking so long for this one? -
So far the only news has been that there is no news. I’ve come expect that and I’ll be hella surprised when there’s actually news. I think post was just so it’s up there for everyone to see for those who haven’t heard.jessie_12 said:
I don’t even know what she was telling us in this post. Again, we got no new information. Just another way to say this update is really big so it’s taking longer. We got no information on where the certification process is at at this time. Just another, “it’s being worked on” post, and “as soon as it’s done it will be released.” No actual date, or a timeframe, or even a guess on when it will be done. It would just be nice to have some sort of information.Well_Placed_HexTotem said:
So they’re still clutching to that “it’s so big it requires a long certification process!” even though loads of other games prove this is false.jessie_12 said:We apologize for the wait of The Curtain Call Chapter to our PS4 and XBOX ONE players.
We know you are eager to play our new content.As part of our mandate to launch high-quality content, we are now using the Public Test Build to publish updates. To release a quality build created after the PTB for this specific 2.0.0 update, our most substantial so far, the certification process on console was more complex. The PC platform, however, grants us the ability to publish our build instantaneously. It is important to note that in the future our updates will be lighter, which should ensure that this certification delay does not happen again.
In the meantime, we will keep you posted on any developments. Note that as soon as either the PS4 or XBOX build is approved, we will release it.
Posted in the news section from not_Queen a little bit ago.
They either sent it in well after it released on PC, or it failed/was pulled from certification to change something. If only they had made some promise to be more open and honest with the community, we wouldn’t need to speculate. Too bad they never promised that. -
Wait what was the rule because looking at this clip Marth was clearly on top of it first I don’t think that can be disputedCaretaker said:On top of all this, here's a clip proving just how shady the "loss" was and what the made up rule was.
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I’m not surprised I’ve read some of his comments on others posts and some of his discussions he made and I’m not gonna lie some of his stuff gave me a chuckle now and thenNoodle said:I've got nothing against him personally, he never came at me or offended me in any way so it's whatever. Actually I'm surprised he was the first one I'm seeing to be banned/suspended. Figured it would be someone else.
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All those abuse flags finally caught up to him I guess
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Why does lowbei’s avatar have a jail symbol on it?
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This is why you never take them seriously. That was just sadpopoles said:Do you remember the day when the saw chapter released a day earlier on Xbox then on PC? People demanded compensation and were rioting at the forums. -
Lol good catch
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People actually have asked themMaster said:@GreyhoundRacer said:
DBD - Chapter VIII "Curtain Call" - When will it be available for the PS4? Can't wait to try the Clown and The Afterpiece Tonic!When verification process is done, ask your console company
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On the ps4 it still says starbreeze is the publisher under the games icon. So they haven’t been updated on this game at all it seems.Amanda55 said:@ThePloopz said:
Wait I thought Starbreeze wasn’t involved with the game anymoreYour right they Aren't with Starbreez anymore.