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@frenchela said:
I don't use boil over at all since it has only worked like 2 times out of the 50 that I've used it lol. Even a slight buff would help though since I had many close calls but only twice I escaped.That's what im saying. IT would disallow the killer to use ONE hook
Maybe the Obscure part could only work for the Obsession? Making it another good obsession perk
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@Malakir said:
SasukeKun said:Can we please buff this to maybe idk something that sounds like this..
Boil Over: Your will to survive is strong and true that gives you energy like a stallion, your struggle effects on the Killer are increased by *50/75/100%.
You obscure The Killer's ability to use hooks that are within 6/8/14 meters when picking up a survivor.
This gives a nice battle to Iron grasp and gives the survivor a good chance to use DS when not the obsession and also brings more viability to Kate's Loadout
No
Especially the "obscure the killer ability to USE hooks" are you insane or just used a bad way to phrase it?"This gives a nice battle to Iron grasp and gives the survivor a good chance to use DS when not the obsession and also brings more viability to Kate's Loadout"
Also this, why be concerned about DS on nonobsession when per se its a PROBLEM?
Just look around and you will see how people isn't that happy to be dsed by a non obsession. Lets not make it worseThe only change I would make is the description, its really deceiving. It really is, also there are other perks that deserve more love than boil over. This one is the last of the list
You sound mad about DS. IT's a perk for surv just like BBQ. I just deal with it and it should be more balanced out.
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@Eight said:
@SasukeKun said:
Why would you have to buff and nerf different things? This is only about Boil OverBecause if all of the situational or training wheels perks are actually made super useful, you have balance issues. Not all perks can be great.
But assuming, for a second, that Boil Over is the only perk left in the game that people want buffing...
Noone wants to just wiggle longer, they want to escape. Boil Over is deceptively dangerous - it could easily become a Decisive Strike 2 that can be used multiple times per game.And if you make it good enough, killers then need to counter with Iron Grasp/Agitation, you force all killers to use up a perk slot for a basic mechanic (picking someone up and carrying them to a hook), so you've introduced a balancing issue there.
I'm not opposed to buffing it, but it's not necessarily simple to do.
You're not understanding.
The point would be that you have guaranteed wiggle time but there is always another hook. Depends on the situation. You don't have to BUFF killer to coincide
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@Nickenzie said:
Mister_xD said:only when you buff iron grasps stats to 50/75/100% decreased struggle effects too.
iron grasp is ment to be the direct counterplay to boil over, so i dont see why the survivors perk should be superious to its direct counter from the killer side.
if one of these two perks has to be stronger, it should be the killers perk, not the survivors.
I agree with @Mister_xD , if this perk gets this buff then I would want to see Iron Grasp get the same treatment.
That wouldn't mathematically make sense with how the game flows. Boil Over Buff would simply give a survivor more of a chance to wiggle a little longer. Iron grasp could still carry out the job
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@ReneAensland said:
@Entità said:
I'd rework Boil Over like this:BOIL OVER: "You are a battler and do everything to escape a foe's grasp.
Your struggling speed is increased by 12/24/36%".
Why not add the Flashlight effect too? And a free 125% Speed Increase when you escape the Foe's grasp for 3 seconds.
wtfff is thattttt lmao
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@MegaWaffle said:
Nothing like making a low 300 shards per level then suddenly getting 84 shards per level....Makes you feel great when trying to farm shards.@HuN7r3sS said:
Could you give some sort of reward for making it to devotion please? Right now it's basically just prestiging your player level.BUMP
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@Visionmaker said:
@SasukeKun said:
@Eight said:
@SasukeKun said:
Yeah but it would be more attractive if it got some kind of useful changeTotally agree, but the devs can't buff all of these kinds of perks. Or rather, they could, but then they'd have to nerf some other perks and buff killers etc. So the whole thing becomes much more complicated.
I'm pretty convinced that some perks aren't meant to be used (by the average, solo-queuing survivor) once you hit the point where you're collecting teachables etc. But sometimes they become useful again later in odd builds.
E.g. Unbreakable on its own, I find useless. Unbreakable + Tenacity, I've seen work. Never tried it myself though.
Can't think of any use for Boil Over other than getting up the nose of killers during the Blight. Except for those running Iron Grasp and Agitation.
Why would you have to buff and nerf different things? This is only about Boil Over
Any buffs to any part of survivor is bad, get it?

Broken key is worthless? Too bad. We won't buff it. Because survivor buffs are bad for the game.
Keep using your Instaheals.
Insta Heals aren't good?
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@Eight said:
@SasukeKun said:
Yeah but it would be more attractive if it got some kind of useful changeTotally agree, but the devs can't buff all of these kinds of perks. Or rather, they could, but then they'd have to nerf some other perks and buff killers etc. So the whole thing becomes much more complicated.
I'm pretty convinced that some perks aren't meant to be used (by the average, solo-queuing survivor) once you hit the point where you're collecting teachables etc. But sometimes they become useful again later in odd builds.
E.g. Unbreakable on its own, I find useless. Unbreakable + Tenacity, I've seen work. Never tried it myself though.
Can't think of any use for Boil Over other than getting up the nose of killers during the Blight. Except for those running Iron Grasp and Agitation.
Why would you have to buff and nerf different things? This is only about Boil Over
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@Eight said:
Boil Over falls into the occasionally useful category of perks. Once in a blue moon, it'll pay off. If you buff all of those perks, survivors would be unstoppable.I've escaped with it a couple of times, but mostly it ends up being useful when you have teammates who love to body block.
Yeah but it would be more attractive if it got some kind of useful change
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@Peanits said:
Speaking from a personal standpoint: No. I'm okay with them in KYF, if you want to do that to yourselves, go nuts. But ever since the engine update they've been a little funky, and they don't work well on some maps. Darkest moonlight is just used to cheese the game sometimes and make it so the killer can't see you.You seem to be forgetting Brightest and Brighter Moonlight. Darkest wasn't always used and personally it was fun exposing yourself more for a challenge.
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@MegaWaffle said:
@SasukeKun
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@MegaWaffle said:
@SmokePotion said:
Boil over is weird. if the killer strafes as he walks, the wiggling effect a survivor gives is minimal. And since movement on pc is done by WASD, killers tend to use strafing as they move, so the effect doesn't do much.On console where you are using twin stick, this perk is noticably stronger. Boilover has 100% stopped me in my tracks for about a second, to 1.5 seconds as a killer on console.
The hiding the hook part though...Kinda useless. If the hook is close, i know where it is, and if it isn't, I can see it's aura till its close, and by then i know all the info I need.
So i don't think boil over needs buffed. i think they need to look at movement controls. As the perk seems to work as intended on consoles.
edit: On second thought, this could also be working better on console because if you go HAM on that stick, that bar will fill pretty fast, and this "extra pork" might be what's giving the perk it's umph?
On console if you just walk at an angle you can ignore a lot of the swaying back and forth. Not every perk needs to be "buffed" or top tier. Sometimes its good to have middle of the road and gimmick perks too.
That's sugar coating Useless
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@Swiftblade131 said:
A bit over 31k people playing. I am only at rank 10 right now with killer.And I have been waiting about half an hour now. Finally got 1 survivor? What gives?
I knew survivors didn't like or "couldn't make it" cause it's just ever so hard to be past rank 15. But rank 10, really?
lmao it's bad
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@mike2835 said:
I was watching old games of dbd and it looked like boil over was in the game originally killers getting thrown left and right. But now it's a perk lol. It should have been a wiggle faster perkWhen i first saw it i thought it made the wiggle bar go by 75% faster
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@CrtKazz said:
The only thing that would be a QOL change would be widening the aura blocking range or allow open handed to be affected by it. You don’t want to make iron grasp a requirement perk for killers and you should never think you are for sure getting off the killers shoulder when using it. It’s meant to compliment aggro builds and other perks ie ds, unbreakabld, sabateur. It’s a super fun perk but could push the gameplay in a negative direction if tweaked too much.@Salty_Pearl said:
I think it should either increase struggling speeds by 5/10/15% or increase the struggling effects to 75%/100%/125%. It really doesn't "move" killers that much.- Wouldn't you want stuff to make taking Open Handed a better option?
- That is why i said to put it up to *100% cuz it does ######### at 75%, and the aura blockage isn't fair because it's only map dependent and if you have EYESs it's laughable
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@Dreamnomad said:
They got rid of them for good reason. I would be fine with them in KYF, but they don't belong in the normal game.good reason? what's the good reason?
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@Dreamnomad said:
I don't think that the struggle effect should be increased. There is a reason that it is 75% at rank 3. Because that is the same amount as Iron Grasp is for killers. They effectively counter each other. I would however be fine with increasing the range that the hooks auras can't be seen. I think that would be fair. This thread should be in balance feedback though.Yes but you would see the effect and strength of the perk if it was increased. It's barely noticeable how it is now and if you have EYES the aura part for the hooks isn't very useful
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@Blueberry said:
This is a perk that if it was buffed it would be highly abused and become a nightmare. It is not something we want to buff lightly.i say give it a chance, think about how all the ways this isn't OP
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@Rebel_Raven said:
So everyone runs it, and killers never get to hook survivors ever again?Iron grasp running killers aren't likely to be prominent now that the event is over, and any hook will do.
I'll go back to Urban Evasion's pre buff everyone thought it was gonna be OP but it wasn't made it balanced. Maybe they should try it in the PTB
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i highly agree
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noooo
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@BigBubs said:
@SasukeKun said:
@BigBubs said:
I'm glad they are gone. Less useless crap on the bw.Why you think like that, you weren't here when they could stack 4 mists and moonlight it would be so funny and awesome
I think like that because I got my own opinion.
Fyi - I own the game since Jun 27, 2016.That's cool, i started in August Or July of 2016. Still think they should stay and not be retired
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@BigBubs said:
I'm glad they are gone. Less useless crap on the bw.Why you think like that, you weren't here when they could stack 4 mists and moonlight it would be so funny and awesome
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@Dustin said:
To be honest I'd be fine with them removing them from inventories but instead of wiping them from the history of DBD add some sort of in-game archive showing all the retired items. Kind of like the tutorial section explaining the game but instead every item is listed even if it's not retired. They could have a little bit of text explaining the item use and why it was retired for example. Would be good trivia to add to the game but not really needed. I still have a few of them sitting in my inventory but since I can't use them I'm not really attached to them to care if they disappear.Regarding the feature itself I felt like they had various impacts on the game depending on the map and I didn't really like that inconsistency so I'm fine with the removal of the offerings.
You seen Macmillan when it's the darkest? love it
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@Soul_Consumption said:
I don't think it's a bug. It's just way easier to gather serum vials on survivor, and now that most people are done everyone else is switching to killer, which sadly for us killers means that lobbies will remain empty for a bit longer than we'd like. Also, rank plays a part in it. I'm rank 3 and it takes about 20-30 mins for me to have any prey show.Happy Hunting...or waiting.
me too
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@Tsulan said:
How about we change the darkest moonlight offerings in a way, that only it's user has a darker map? This would give them the desired horror feeling, while removing the advantage they gained through it.elaborate
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there's like a slight difference but it's cool when it's dark
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Hey, any ideas for a Vanity Mirror Build?
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@chemical_reject said:
SasukeKun said:@Michiko said:
Am I the only killer that can get 3 kills and not be salty about the 4th person getting hatch? Its not that serious.
It's about quitting to stop the game over the killer's choice. It's not over till it's over
It's over. Take ur 3K and move on to another match.
I'll get my 4k points if i earned it, i'm not getting cheated out of any of my points cuz you're mad you're downed
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@Michiko said:
Am I the only killer that can get 3 kills and not be salty about the 4th person getting hatch? Its not that serious.It's about quitting to stop the game over the killer's choice. It's not over till it's over
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@Giche said:
@fcc2014 said:
I'm not going to sit on the ground and bleed out because you NEED to find that last person to secure your "victory" if crows start circling i'm out. If you are using it in the middle or beginning of the game to slug with knockout and or 3rd seal that is different and an actual strategy. 2 dead 1 downed and you leave them to find the fourth is not the same game play.
The entitlement... it's over 9000 !!!
LOL "i don't wanna let you win so imma dc" is what that sounds like
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@RSB said:
The last time I complained about it, the most ######### and biased survivors went in my thread and started shitting everywhere. And they are here, what a coincidence.PS. They use bots to add themselves vote ups and awesomes, so you can actually know them by it.
SPILL THE TEA SIS
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@CallMeRusty420 said:
From reading the comments it's ironic how all these people are trying to justify DCing to let someone else get the hatch by saying it isn't cheating or that they refuse to 'play' that game. In reality it is cheating because you are affecting the outcome of the match by intentionally disrupting the natural flow of the game and that's final. It's a scummy move. If you're being slugged, just wait it out and bleed out. I know it's boring and not the most exciting part of the game but it's part of the game. Just deal with it and move on.^ This, i was about to say the same thing, it's DCing no matter how you square it. You have a bleed out timer, nobody is held hostage, just because you're down while the killer searches for the last person doesn't make it right. DC=DC
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@yeet said:
powerbats said:@SasukeKun said:
Lol these are survivor made up rules and if you break them THIS DC is passable. No a dc is a dc
Says the killer with made up rules mad because they can't have their 4k on demand. Now before you get the pitchfork out I don't agree with the dc but I understand it.
If you're going to leave that 1 person then camp the hatch while they bleed out or soft camp them close enough to the hatch.
Then you reap what you sow so to speak and it's no different than killer whining when someone goes and hides.
You get mad that last survivor is immersed and refusing to give you an easy 4th kill, well guess what you haven't earned it.
So quit camping and go find them since isn't that what killers want, survivors that don't sit there and loop endlessly?
Then what is the counterplay to the hatch supposed to be? "Let them get a free escape just because"?
survivor is easy enough as it is, why can't i, as killer, DC to make it so survivors don't get escape points? If you think that this is fair game then surely you also think lag switching is fair game?I think he's trolling at this point
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@Raccoon said:
The posters advocating for the "DC Strategy" make me sadder than the ending of The Notebook.YEah it's pretty bad
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@fcc2014 said:
@sixty4half said:
DC is about the weakest in game thing you can do, character wise. That goes for everyone, victims and killers.Grow up guys.
Holding me hostage for 4-5 minutes while you look for the other person i guess is ok?
Sorry you got owned and the other person can loop around and pick you up. You know playing the game through instead of rage quitting because you made mistakes
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@chemical_reject said:
SasukeKun said:@Shadoureon said:
Killers whining about this are the same that slug a survivor to get that 4k. Why would someone lie on the ground for 4 minutes. If I know a survivor is on the hatch I gladly dc to not give the killer his 4k. Its a teamgame 1v4 not 1v1v1v1v1.
So killers are allowed to dc from a group of toxic swf? k
Lol don't act like they even get a chance to dc because they get dodged before the match even starts
Lol these are survivor made up rules and if you break them THIS DC is passable. No a dc is a dc
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
Wait people should be banned for giving a fellow survivor a sporting chance to survive? I'm assuming you mean dying on the hook. The poor killer has to settle for a 3k?What a cruel world we live in.
I'm sure it doesn't matter. Why can't i have my victory if i downed all of you?
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@Vietfox said:
SasukeKun said:@chemical_reject said:
SasukeKun said:
@chemical_reject said: SasukeKun said:
I hope you all get banned for it. So stupid and frustrating after securing yourself a win to some salty survivors who can't lose.
So u take it that only a 4K = win. Sounds like ur the salty one. Take ur 3K and move on. After i spent all game winning and earned the 4k? "i'm not letting him get the hook on me" dc's "take your 3k". I'm salty? LOL
You are not entitled to a 4K, no matter how much you THINK you deserve it .
There's perks like Unbreakable and No Mither to counter slugging noobcake. Sounds like you got owned and can't take an L.
@SasukeKun
Guess what, chosen perks are randomly helpful, especially as a survivor. I think everyone will agree on how many times survivors have "wasted" perk slots.
So if someone has unbreakable while the killer is slugging, good for that survivor!
Not to mention that the killer should be really stupid to slug a no mither user since it can be seen at the very beginning of the match.
EDIT: i'll give back your "owned", @chemical_reject is taking a nap.I've done teams of mixed and we all had one or the other, you know it works for those versatile few that don't rely on 1 build.
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@chemical_reject said:
SasukeKun said:@chemical_reject said:
SasukeKun said:
I hope you all get banned for it. So stupid and frustrating after securing yourself a win to some salty survivors who can't lose.
So u take it that only a 4K = win. Sounds like ur the salty one. Take ur 3K and move on.
After i spent all game winning and earned the 4k? "i'm not letting him get the hook on me" dc's "take your 3k". I'm salty? LOL
You are not entitled to a 4K, no matter how much you THINK you deserve it .
There's perks like Unbreakable and No Mither to counter slugging noobcake. Sounds like you got owned and can't take an L.
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@Shadoureon said:
Killers whining about this are the same that slug a survivor to get that 4k. Why would someone lie on the ground for 4 minutes. If I know a survivor is on the hatch I gladly dc to not give the killer his 4k. Its a teamgame 1v4 not 1v1v1v1v1.So killers are allowed to dc from a group of toxic swf? k
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@chemical_reject said:
SasukeKun said:I hope you all get banned for it. So stupid and frustrating after securing yourself a win to some salty survivors who can't lose.
So u take it that only a 4K = win. Sounds like ur the salty one. Take ur 3K and move on.
After i spent all game winning and earned the 4k? "i'm not letting him get the hook on me" dc's "take your 3k". I'm salty? LOL
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@Tzeentchling9 said:
Not a whole lot of options sometimes though.Your options are to either finish the Gen or one of you dies, get good pls that's so cheap
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
Dcing is not punishedEven fogstreamers that are supported by BHVR regularly derank by DCing, that should tell you enough

Streamers who do it, it's even more gross
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@OGlilSPOOK20 said:
SasukeKun said:@OGlilSPOOK20 said:
Yea i just noticed when I selected him. I feel like Pig should get the Saw theme when selecting her too.
LINK THAT SAW THEME
m.youtube.com/watch?v=vhSHXGM7kgE
oo like if they put it in matches? that would be SICK
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@OGlilSPOOK20 said:
Yea i just noticed when I selected him. I feel like Pig should get the Saw theme when selecting her too.LINK THAT SAW THEME
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@Master said:
@SasukeKun said:
@Master said:
@SasukeKun said:
I'm a rank 1 Killer and and i have mostly all my Killers at level 50 and to be honest the grind of starting over just for a bloody piece of clothing just isn't worth it. Once you have every teachable the grind to get the perks you want for a certain killer is just so [BAD WORD] brutal. Id rather keep them all at 50 and have every perk until they make it more worth my time to start ALL over. anyone else?Its literally the point of prestige to show off. It is not mandatory and that shouldnt change.
If you dont wanna grind, well then DONT prestige?
yes but it's also a feature in the game that takes a massive amount of time and i suggest a bigger reward
You dont understand, its supposed to be a feature to show off, it is supposed to take massive amount of time without any big reward
Yes, i just wish it had a bigger one is all
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@Esheon said:
SnakeSound222 said:@SasukeKun said:
@Esheon said:
You get more than a bloody piece of clothing or weapon. Prestiging increases the chance that the more rare items, offerings, and add-ons will appear in your bloodweb.
i have a bunch of stuff prestige while i didn't say the others, i know what else it does for you and it's not that noticeable if you ask me
From what I've heard, P1 gives you 10% increased chance to get uncommons in your bloodweb, P2 gives you a 10% increased chance to get rares and a 20% increased chance to get uncommons, and P3 gives you a 10% increased chance to get very rares, a 20% increased chance to get rares, and a 30% increased chance to get uncommons. It's not even that good unless you're prestiging Billy, LF, or Myers.
I can see the difference between my one P3 character and all my P0 characters. The P0 characters have far more brown items/add-ons/offerings than the P3 character. Right now my only P3 is Claudette, I'm working on Hag (P1 at the moment) for the next one.
I'd argue that for killers, the difference in add-ons can be significant enough to warrant it. Though some still suffer penalties from higher-rarity add-ons (like Doctor electrodes), most would benefit from having higher-rarity version of their base add-on sets.
Hag especially can benefit from getting higher-rarity insects/eggs/necklets than the base. My preferred addons with her are Dried Cicada and Cracked Turtle Egg, both of which are Rare. Having 20% more of those would be nice.
Now, that's not saying I wouldn't like some further bonus. At the very least, I think we should get partial BP credit for each item remaining in our inventory when we prestige.
My previous post was simply stating the fact that you do get more from prestiging than just the bloody clothes, in response to the OP's assertion that you are "starting over just for a bloody piece of clothing".
Let's be real you pretty much are when it comes down to it lol
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@Master said:
@SasukeKun said:
I'm a rank 1 Killer and and i have mostly all my Killers at level 50 and to be honest the grind of starting over just for a bloody piece of clothing just isn't worth it. Once you have every teachable the grind to get the perks you want for a certain killer is just so [BAD WORD] brutal. Id rather keep them all at 50 and have every perk until they make it more worth my time to start ALL over. anyone else?Its literally the point of prestige to show off. It is not mandatory and that shouldnt change.
If you dont wanna grind, well then DONT prestige?
yes but it's also a feature in the game that takes a massive amount of time and i suggest a bigger reward
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@Esheon said:
You get more than a bloody piece of clothing or weapon. Prestiging increases the chance that the more rare items, offerings, and add-ons will appear in your bloodweb.i have a bunch of stuff prestige while i didn't say the others, i know what else it does for you and it's not that noticeable if you ask me