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Nope - Those are both perks that anyone can use.
In the future, and especially post patch, you'll want to Tunnel/Camp the BT user to prevent this scenario.
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
When you smell a bait thread but its already to heated to comment.It's Saturday night - There's always time for fun
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I had to mash awesome on your comments
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It's entirely possible that they're in a scenario where being found is anything but impossible, but it's still a combination of the actions from both parties that lead to diacovery/chase.
Losing the chase is on the individual killer/survivor, generally (though some coordinated players run interference, but killers can circumvent this).
Getting picked up also has some team based counter play, but aside from perks and obvious pallet crawls (which are 100% the killer's fault if he takes a stun), it's generally on the remaining 4 active players to determine if a pick up occurs.
Barring DS, the same can be said for carrying and hooking.
Afterwards, if the killer is camping, survivors and the killer all contribute to the outcome, regardless of whether the majority of the forum is able to grasp and cope with this fact or not.
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You're both not accomplishing anything :-/
Why not meet in the middle?
The hooked survivor is responsible for their own gameplay pre-hook, but both the killer and remaining survivors determine whether or not a save occurs, regardless of how safe/unsafe or fair/unfair it is for either side.
Or you both could meander on with your circular reasoning and dialogue.
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@WalterWh1te said:
Wolf74 said:@towhead said:
just because a survivor farms another off a hook in front of a killer, it doesn't mean the killer must capitalize on the event. unless of course, they are desperate.
Are you serious?
You think that's how a killer should play?
Just watch the survivor make bad plays and let them get away with it?
So the survivor show no "fear"(respect?) of the killer and rescue right beside him and he should show "mercy" and let the rescued go to take on the much harder chase?
WHY?
I can give you 3 reasons:
As a killer i try to provide the best possible game expirience for everyone.
I am confident enough in my skills to catch the guy again after he healed to full.
From a gen pressure point of view its better because a player healing isn't a player doing a gen. a good team will punish you for proxying and tunneling. the are just going to do gens and save last second.
You can be respected and feared by your opponents without playing like a sweaty tryhard piece of human garbage.
It's always nice to see posts using terms like "sweaty tryhard piece of human garbage" get upvoted.
Beautiful.
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@The_Crusader said:
Wolf74 said:@The_Crusader said:
Well if you want to go down that route...
In most horror movies the killer chases their victim. They don't just sit around waiting.
Really? Jason want to have a talk to you…
It's called "baiting".
Then go play Friday 13th
Freddy and Michael chase a lot.
Dream Warriors is literally Freddy camping a victim to draw the others out :P
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looks at Legion
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I'm really concerned about the lack of details on a rework that has been talked about FOR MONTHS.
With the way Devs respond to any questions regarding this rework, I don't think any progress has been made at all
A lot of people enjoy playing Freddy due to his uniqueness despite being low-tier, just like a lot of survivors hate facing him despite being low-tier.
This somewhat unique scenario could allow for feedback on proposed redesign ideas from both sides of the game to help with balancing both his viability and fun, but instead we get.....silence.
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Reduce Hatch BP to 5K, give the Killer the "bonus" 2K.
Survivor escapes, Killer gets compensation, everyone's a wiener.
This would also provide a hefty incentive to "hit it and forget it" during a Hatch standoff.
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@The_Crusader said:
@Raccoon said:
Master said:@The_Crusader said:
Oooooof said:
@Wolf74 Well. I think you're stupid. Hit the survivor while his unhooking and then hit him again? It feels so bad for survivors to get tunneled and then go down again. Thats why they are buffing borrow time. Switch the target and you can play as myers, leatherface or hillbilly to instadown the survivor thats unhooking
You're wasting your time. It's pretty obvious these people don't play enough survivor to know how awful it is to be tunneled down the second you're off the hook.
I know it feels bad, but as survivor you have a way out at least. You dont have that as killer unless you DC
Damn Rocky 1 - 4 were amazing.
Balboa as next survivor please.
Clubber Lang as next killer.
"I pity tha fool who hides in my lockers"
He'd have a 1-Hit Down, but auto-lose after 10 minutes :P
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Your words and opinions are just as valuable as anyone else's....POST AWAYalivebydeadight said:over 100 posts on this thread, I am so spooked by this I slightly want to help
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Master said:
@The_Crusader said:
Oooooof said:@Wolf74 Well. I think you're stupid. Hit the survivor while his unhooking and then hit him again? It feels so bad for survivors to get tunneled and then go down again. Thats why they are buffing borrow time. Switch the target and you can play as myers, leatherface or hillbilly to instadown the survivor thats unhooking
You're wasting your time. It's pretty obvious these people don't play enough survivor to know how awful it is to be tunneled down the second you're off the hook.
I know it feels bad, but as survivor you have a way out at least. You dont have that as killer unless you DC
https://youtu.be/MwPb7g_BlXQ
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Clown is one of my go to "tryhard" killers at Rank 1, if we're all being honest.The_Crusader said:
See this is the problem. Thinking that Nurse and Billy are the "valid killers".Tsulan said:ad19970 said:@Tsulan said:
Now we have Freddy 2.0 but at least he can vault pallets!
Killer being able to kill? Go away with this nonsense!We got the killer the survivor community asked for. Someone who gives the thrill of a chase without being an actual threat. Someone who can't even tunnel.
I hope survivor mains buy this chapter. Because I doubt that killers will.
Dear lord man you pretend like the devs are purposefully giving killer mains the middle finger. So they made a killer that isn't as viable. Happens. Both Clown and Spirit, the last two killer, turned out to be viable, especially Spirit.
Plus we should still wait and see how he plays with the new changes before coming to final conclusions. I still think he might be better than some of the other killers in the game.
Plus I will get the new killer that's for sure.
Oh did I miss clown as one of the top killers?
Mmhh I never see him on rank 1. Must be my imagination...
I didn't expect much before they released him on the PTB. And I still were disappointed.
The times of valid killers like Billy and Nurse are over. Let's face it.
Even the devs think that not all killers should be valid. So, I'll just save my money.
I haven't spent money since Freddy was released. Before that fiasco, I bought every DLC. But after that joke? Naah
Basically, "everyone who can't consistently give me a 4k isn't valid"
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I played DeathGarden since beta, bought it day one, left after instant shotgun nerfs and refunded.
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It's too bad we can't get different color cosmetics for her coat, so you can try to blend in better, hahaalivebydeadight said:@Dwight_Fairfi7eld said:
The trailer is misleading. It makes it look like the killer can fool you into thinking they're a fellow survivor.The pig if played right can look like a crouching survivor
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I find this claim highly suspect.tt_ivi_99 said:
I dont think you get what camping means so let me explain you:Tzeentchling9 said:
Wait, wait, wait. So don't camp to counter BT, but it's the Killer's fault when he doesn't camp?tt_ivi_99 said:
Dude if they are in the middle/outer range of your TR Its your fault. You cant just leave the hook if you know someone is gonna go agressive on unhooking.Raccoon said:@Khalednazari said:
Raccoon said:They both take 2 hits to down immediately after unhooking and they're both an equal distance from the killer at the time of unhooking.
I get that. But where's the effort in camping or tunneling? The first hit is basically a free hit.
Yeah, it's always free, especially if they're in the middle/outer range of your terror radius and rocking DH/SB.
Makes sense ;3
This is why no one takes Survivors seriously.
Camping is staying around the same hooked survivor for the entire match, its not the same as going around him a little bit to ensure no one is gonna unhook him as soon as you leave the hook. I've never been called camper for doing that. -
No one's debating or disagreeing with that point at all.The_Crusader said:7
You're wasting your time. It's pretty obvious these people don't play enough survivor to know how awful it is to be tunneled down the second you're off the hook.Oooooof said:@Wolf74 Well. I think you're stupid. Hit the survivor while his unhooking and then hit him again? It feels so bad for survivors to get tunneled and then go down again. Thats why they are buffing borrow time. Switch the target and you can play as myers, leatherface or hillbilly to instadown the survivor thats unhooking
I 100% agree that it sucks to be the current weakest link and targeted, but that's completely irrelevant in terms of killer efficiency.
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@Oooooof said:
@Wolf74 Well. I think you're stupid. Hit the survivor while his unhooking and then hit him again? It feels so bad for survivors to get tunneled and then go down again. Thats why they are buffing borrow time. Switch the target and you can play as myers, leatherface or hillbilly to instadown the survivor thats unhookingLiteral manifestation of my previous post, hahahah.
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@Wolf74 said:
Because switching targets is stupid.
Why should a killer go for the target that needs 2 hits to down, if there is one that only needs one?
Spreading out the hooks among the team is bad for the killer, since hooking once or twice doesn't mean anything.
But removing one survivor from the game is the best debuff you can achieve. Minus 25% effectiveness on the team.You call that stupid?
They're too busy calling other people stupid to soak in another viewpoint, I guess.
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@BunnyTheHutt said:
@Arsoul said:
Don't play as Legion then.........Hard concept I know
this is idiotic on the highest level. You have to play as new killers/survivors to get their perks, so if you don't enjoy the killer its going to be hell. In my opinion the Legion changes are a start but he still has far off to be good.
You don't need to ever play a character to unlock their teachables.
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@Visionmaker said:
Raccoon said:@Visionmaker said:
Again, that's a personal and irrational choice.
You tunnel because you want to and it is rewarded by the game. That does not change with the BT buff.
And if you tunnel the BT user, then good. The perk did its job. It literally makes you stop tunneling the unhookee.
You literally cannot (knowingly) tunnel the BT user without first chasing and activating the perk on the freshly unhooked player.
I mean, if you don't anticipate BT at high ranks after such a significant buff, then I dunno what to tell you.
But you do you.
Playing at high ranks on the PTB is exactly what lead to the creation of this topic.
Doing what I listed was 100% the easiest way for me to 4K using my preferred killers (all garbage tier
).Have you played at high ranks on the PTB? What was your experience regarding this buff?
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@Visionmaker said:
Again, that's a personal and irrational choice.You tunnel because you want to and it is rewarded by the game. That does not change with the BT buff.
And if you tunnel the BT user, then good. The perk did its job. It literally makes you stop tunneling the unhookee.
You literally cannot (knowingly) tunnel the BT user without first chasing, hitting, and activating the perk on the freshly unhooked player.
If anything, people will start targeting the unhooked player in order to verify the existence of a BT user after the buff.
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@Raccoon said:
@Delfador said:
@Raccoon said:
@Delfador said:
@Raccoon said:
Since the perk now uses DW, there's literally ZERO reason not to tunnel the person that was unhooked, as the amount of effort in downing the unhooker (if they're healthy) is literally the same, without the potential of the unhooked BT survivor going down for you to search for after you get the unhooker. Plus, they're up a hook state, which instantly makes switching a bad move now.
It also provides extra incentive to camp the BT user out of the game on the first hook, as you'll lose more than two minutes restarting a chase from scratch (thanks to the DW) over multiple unhooking instances.
I don't initiate a fight here but you make absolutely no sense.
In the first paragraph, you say that tunneling the hooked survivor is better because him and his rescuer takes the same amount of effort. Why would you tunnel the hooked person if not it is easier? If we are talking about hook states, it is the same before the change. Borrowed time change doesn't affect it.
After this you say that BT user should be camped. Then why on earth, have you tunneled the first person? Get the borrowed time user and camp him instead of tunneling the unhooked survivor.
It seems to me you are just salty and throwing
How am I going to know that someone is running Borrowed Time without hitting the unhooked survivor first?
Why would I go for the uninjured survivor if I don't have this information?
Why do you say that you are gonna camp the borrowed time user than?
Also, next time the same thing will happen again. Though it seems it is desirable to go after the injured survivor, in the long run, borrowed time user will get another chance to rescue the hooked survivor.
If anything, borrowed time change doesn't encourage people to camp or tunnel. Forum users, both survivors and killers, are ready to threaten anything they don't want. It doesn't help at all.
Ok. I will try to explain this in simplified terms and even pretend I am standing fairly close to the hook at the time of unhooking.
Person A is hooked.
Person B unhooks them.I'm going to go after Person A.
Person A gets DW after the first hit.
I hook Person A after downing them (2 Hook States Down) because I won a full chase again (possibly extended due to DH/SB).At this point, when Person A is rescued again, as a killer, I may as well remove them from the game given the time investment spent on them, assuming they are evenly matched to my own level of play.
After this, if I have the opportunity to remove the BT user from the game, I am going to, in order to prevent the extension of future chases after any unhooks that occur within my terror radius.
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I literally say that exact thing using an example.
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@PhantomMask20763 said:
Will insidious finally be meta??? 0_0INSIDIOUS/MONSTROUS SHRINE META, PLZ
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I believe they stated on stream (when it was Cote and MacClean) that they have not even tested what a few people running Sabo/BD can do in a match.
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Spirit definitely struggles less than certain other killers due to her crazy mobility
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@thesuicidefox said:
If you use RM or DL then tunnel away, because you have a perk that tells you to do it. But if you don't use them and still tunnel, unless the survivors put you in that position you're just a trash killer. Sorry it's the truth.So it's ok to "ruin" someone else's game if the perks you're using makes the game that much more unbearable for the survivors left on the map after you tunnel some poor soul to activate it?
Makes sense with zero leaps in logic.
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@The_Crusader said:
only1biggs said:I love how those that camp always give a justification for it. "This perk means I should camp harder", or "this mechanic means I should tunnel more".
Just because you can be an [BAD WORD] it doesn't mean you should.
How about you all just be honest and say you camp and/or tunnel because you just want to.
Lol it's the same people everytime. They're always complaining killer is too hard too.
I'm sure there's a link between them saying you need to camp/tunnel to win and them saying that killer is impossible to win.
Yeah. I was especially distraught regarding the difficulty of killer when I made a previous topic (locked, obviously), demonstrating that you can just camp your way through all the ranks as Leatherface, stress free.
Nice try at putting words in someone else's mouth, though, sir/madam.
I've also noticed that someone has changed a particularly toxic comment on their profile after getting called out for it. Red Hill Zone evaded, Sanic.
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I usually use Remember Me on Freddy, so yes, I do tunnel the obsession relentlessly.
I appreciate the put-downs, though, thank you
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@SenzuDuck said:
@DemonDaddy said:
Survivors keep asking for more ways to ensure a save. Don't get butt hurt if killers have to do what they need as an individual.No they don't, lmao.
I don't think this was changed to really make "easier" saves.
Personally, I think Deep Wounds was created before the BT Buff, and they just switched it over to remove an old "1-off" status and replace it with something new and exciting.
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@SenzuDuck said:
I love when people say things like "The BB&C change forces me to camp" Or the "Borrowed time change makes me tunnel/camp".You're probably already playing this way anyway, you just want further reasons to do so.
I play Freddy/Leatherface, usually, mostly Freddy.
I am known to hold a mean M2 with Leatherface, though
I don't think anyone really needs a reason to play x way, but certain things can definitely help an individual rationalize why they or others play x way
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@purebalance said:
@Condorloco_26 said:
Teabagging, clickety-clicking and smacking people on hooks are actions that take away time from the person choosing to do them. Though within the mechanics of the game, they're akin to go AFK for the length of said action.
Camping, tunneling, gen-rushing, D-striking, pallet-looping, hook-diving, bodyblocking, flashlight-saving, and many more frowned upon actions, are all within the mechanics of the game, and sometimes, strategies that may lead to a positive outcome for the players performing them.
The only actions that I would qualify as out of bounds would be holding the game hostage by refusing to take the hatch or exit gates and bodyblocking a survivor in a corner with no further action from the killer. Thus they're bannable offenses and you still can disconnect to get out of there.
Anything else is game.
Pallet looping, flashlight saving, hook-diving, bodyblocking, D-striking, gen-rushing, and tunneling aren't even close to the same as camping. Tunneling I'd even omit since it's close to camping in that killers will still chase you even if you're healed just because even if there's an injured person right there.
They're actually identical to camping - Valid tactics that are usable by anyone capable of performing said action.
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@ScottJund said:
@The_Crusader said:
@Raccoon said:
@The_Crusader said:
@Raccoon said:
"While not in a chase, the Deep Wound timer will tick down – even while using the Mend action. As long as The Survivor continues to mend, the timer will not progress past 99% and will not go into the dying state."They almost made a viable change, but then they remembered that the game can be pretty spooky without someone holding your hand
That is ridiculous. If mend ticked down fully while mending you'd be buggered. You'd have what, 20 seconds in which to get away from the killer and fully heal? and it takes 15 seconds to mend. So you'd have 5 seconds in which to run away and find a place to mend fully.
Sounds like a well-thought out mechanic all around, sir/madam!
(By that, I mean the general concept of Deep Wounds)
Have an awesome
I'm not going to disagree with that.
A killer who can sprint at 120% speed and vault pallets.....yeah that's going to be an easy one to balance.
See I still don't get that. Who cares that he can vault pallets? All he can do is just hit you and drain all his power while you lose a small chunk of a timer that doesn't even go down while he's chasing you. Its not like you can vault the pallet, cancel the power, and still hit the person - they're long gone on the other side at that point.
Other side of the map...or pallet?
JK, either works
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Sure, you got me.
You'd get more meaningful dialogue if you actually read the points presented by each person in the thread instead of resorting to personal attacks and profanity off the get go.
You've been very toxic in both this thread, as well as your profile, so please don't try to paint anyone else with the same brush.
Your comments and profile musings are on display for the whole forum to see, and I'd 100% prefer that you continue to be "direct," in order to expedite your trip to The Red Circle Club ;3
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@only1biggs said:
@Raccoon said:
@only1biggs said:
@Raccoon said:
I forgot that I was responsible for everyone else's fun, as well as my own.I also forgot that I was not responsible for the choices I make that put me in either a favorable or unfavorable situation as both Killer and Survivor.
Thank you for the reminder.
You know that you gain more pressure by not camping and going to hook someone else, right?
Yes - In the scenario being discussed, which you surely read, abandoning the hook while someone is being unhooked within your terror radius is clearly the way to go.
As per your December 5 profile post stating that you and your friend "know" everyone on this forum is "dogshit," this is pretty golden
I just responded to your title.
Impressive. Perhaps there is hope for the educational system yet.
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@Delfador said:
@Raccoon said:
@Delfador said:
@only1biggs said:
@Delfador said:
@only1biggs said:
@Raccoon said:
It's unfortunate that toxicity like this exists in the forums.
I edited my post
My point remains though. I'm not being toxic.
You think camping and tunneling isn't "toxic"?
It ruins peoples game.As much as I hate camping and tunnelling, I don't think they are toxic.
Ruining people's game is something that you purposely do it like tbagging, flashlight clicking or hitting survivors on the hook.
If we call camping and tunneling toxic, then the killers can call flashlight saves, DS, genrushing toxic too since it ruins the game at least for them.What? Teabagging doesn't affect your game play. Neither does being hit on hook.
Flashlights are part of the game that can be played around easily.
They are taunting you. Keep in mind that I never get taunted by hitting people on the hook or tbagging or flashlight clicking. I am talking about an average killer.
I never claimed flashlights are difficult to play around. Flashlight clicking and actually using them are completely two different things.
Barring a macro to crash the game, flashlight clicking is also perfectly fine.
It can be an annoyance, but that's the purpose - to draw the killer's attention/ire.Oh since you think camping is okay, I assume it is not toxic.
Since annoying people like tbag or flashlight clicking is not toxic, there is no toxicity in the game?
At least @only1biggs has a clear definition of toxicity.Toxicity, in my opinion, only occurs in the post-game chat.
You can get dicked around by a death squad, teabagged, camped out of the game, etc. but that's stuff that's permissable by the game's own rules.
Rational people shouldn't be triggered by these things alone, especially in a "mature" game.
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@Delfador said:
@only1biggs said:
@Delfador said:
@only1biggs said:
@Raccoon said:
It's unfortunate that toxicity like this exists in the forums.
I edited my post
My point remains though. I'm not being toxic.
You think camping and tunneling isn't "toxic"?
It ruins peoples game.As much as I hate camping and tunnelling, I don't think they are toxic.
Ruining people's game is something that you purposely do it like tbagging, flashlight clicking or hitting survivors on the hook.
If we call camping and tunneling toxic, then the killers can call flashlight saves, DS, genrushing toxic too since it ruins the game at least for them.What? Teabagging doesn't affect your game play. Neither does being hit on hook.
Flashlights are part of the game that can be played around easily.
They are taunting you. Keep in mind that I never get taunted by hitting people on the hook or tbagging or flashlight clicking. I am talking about an average killer.
I never claimed flashlights are difficult to play around. Flashlight clicking and actually using them are completely two different things.
Barring a macro to crash the game, flashlight clicking is also perfectly fine.
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@only1biggs said:
@Raccoon said:
I forgot that I was responsible for everyone else's fun, as well as my own.I also forgot that I was not responsible for the choices I make that put me in either a favorable or unfavorable situation as both Killer and Survivor.
Thank you for the reminder.
You know that you gain more pressure by not camping and going to hook someone else, right?
Yes - In the scenario being discussed, which you surely read, abandoning the hook while someone is being unhooked within your terror radius is clearly the way to go.
As per your December 5 profile post stating that you and your friend "know" everyone on this forum is "dogshit," this is pretty golden
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I forgot that I was responsible for everyone else's fun, as well as my own.
I also forgot that I was not responsible for the choices I make that put me in either a favorable or unfavorable situation as both Killer and Survivor.
Thank you for the reminder.
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@only1biggs said:
I love how those that camp always give a justification for it. "This perk means I should camp harder", or "this mechanic means I should tunnel more".Just because you can be an [BAD WORD] it doesn't mean you should.
How about you all just be honest and say you camp and/or tunnel because you just want to. Own it.
It is unfortunate that you feel the need to belittle other people in civil conversation.
Fortunately, there is only apparently one of you, toxicity and all.
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@Delfador said:
@Raccoon said:
@Delfador said:
@Raccoon said:
Since the perk now uses DW, there's literally ZERO reason not to tunnel the person that was unhooked, as the amount of effort in downing the unhooker (if they're healthy) is literally the same, without the potential of the unhooked BT survivor going down for you to search for after you get the unhooker. Plus, they're up a hook state, which instantly makes switching a bad move now.
It also provides extra incentive to camp the BT user out of the game on the first hook, as you'll lose more than two minutes restarting a chase from scratch (thanks to the DW) over multiple unhooking instances.
I don't initiate a fight here but you make absolutely no sense.
In the first paragraph, you say that tunneling the hooked survivor is better because him and his rescuer takes the same amount of effort. Why would you tunnel the hooked person if not it is easier? If we are talking about hook states, it is the same before the change. Borrowed time change doesn't affect it.
After this you say that BT user should be camped. Then why on earth, have you tunneled the first person? Get the borrowed time user and camp him instead of tunneling the unhooked survivor.
It seems to me you are just salty and throwing
How am I going to know that someone is running Borrowed Time without hitting the unhooked survivor first?
Why would I go for the uninjured survivor if I don't have this information?
Why do you say that you are gonna camp the borrowed time user than?
Also, next time the same thing will happen again. Though it seems it is desirable to go after the injured survivor, in the long run, borrowed time user will get another chance to rescue the hooked survivor.
If anything, borrowed time change doesn't encourage people to camp or tunnel. Forum users, both survivors and killers, are ready to threaten anything they don't want. It doesn't help at all.
Ok. I will try to explain this in simplified terms and even pretend I am standing fairly close to the hook at the time of unhooking.
Person A is hooked.
Person B unhooks them.I'm going to go after Person A.
Person A gets DW after the first hit.
I hook Person A after downing them (2 Hook States Down) because I won a full chase again (possibly extended due to DH/SB).At this point, when Person A is rescued again, as a killer, I may as well remove them from the game given the time investment spent on them, assuming they are evenly matched to my own level of play.
After this, if I have the opportunity to remove the BT user from the game, I am going to, in order to prevent the extension of future chases after any unhooks that occur within my terror radius.
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@Khalednazari said:
Complaining about people who complain. You're no different.
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@Khalednazari said:
Raccoon said:Yeah, it's always free, especially if they're in the middle/outer range of your terror radius and rocking DH/SB.
Makes sense ;3
Since you plan on camping / tunneling, use insidious as well. Solves the problem for you.
Is this finally Insidious Leatherface's time to shine?!
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@The_Crusader said:
@Raccoon said:
@The_Crusader said:
@Raccoon said:
"While not in a chase, the Deep Wound timer will tick down – even while using the Mend action. As long as The Survivor continues to mend, the timer will not progress past 99% and will not go into the dying state."They almost made a viable change, but then they remembered that the game can be pretty spooky without someone holding your hand
That is ridiculous. If mend ticked down fully while mending you'd be buggered. You'd have what, 20 seconds in which to get away from the killer and fully heal? and it takes 15 seconds to mend. So you'd have 5 seconds in which to run away and find a place to mend fully.
Sounds like a well-thought out mechanic all around, sir/madam!
(By that, I mean the general concept of Deep Wounds)
Have an awesome
I'm not going to disagree with that.
A killer who can sprint at 120% speed and vault pallets.....yeah that's going to be an easy one to balance.
To be 100% serious for a moment, I was really excited for the new killer, their lore, and power.
After playing the PTB at only Rank 5-ish, boy did that fade
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@tt_ivi_99 said:
Raccoon said:@Khalednazari said:
Raccoon said:
They both take 2 hits to down immediately after unhooking and they're both an equal distance from the killer at the time of unhooking.
I get that. But where's the effort in camping or tunneling? The first hit is basically a free hit.
Yeah, it's always free, especially if they're in the middle/outer range of your terror radius and rocking DH/SB.
Makes sense ;3
Dude if they are in the middle/outer range of your TR Its your fault. You cant just leave the hook if you know someone is gonna go agressive on unhooking.
How do I know this on Hook 1?
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@The_Crusader said:
@Raccoon said:
"While not in a chase, the Deep Wound timer will tick down – even while using the Mend action. As long as The Survivor continues to mend, the timer will not progress past 99% and will not go into the dying state."They almost made a viable change, but then they remembered that the game can be pretty spooky without someone holding your hand
That is ridiculous. If mend ticked down fully while mending you'd be buggered. You'd have what, 20 seconds in which to get away from the killer and fully heal? and it takes 15 seconds to mend. So you'd have 5 seconds in which to run away and find a place to mend fully.
Sounds like a well-thought out mechanic all around, sir/madam!
(By that, I mean the general concept of Deep Wounds)
Have an awesome
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@tt_ivi_99 said:
I dont really get your point on why tunnel...If you camp a survivor and someone comes and saves him, your best option is to go after the unhooker because you'll allways get a free hit on him since he's stucked in the unhooking animation...
That works if you're immediately next to the hook, but at that point, if you're set on facecamping and there's just one rescuer, you'll grab and insta-drop.
If there are multiple rescuers, it can get a bit more tricky with the new hook-breaking perk, which prevents grabbing/downing a rescuer and trading them on the hook.
You DO NOT HAVE TO BE DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE HOOK for Borrowed Time to activate, you know.
You may not even be facing the hook when it happens.