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@CoffengMin said:
what did you do to her? 2k points isnt normal even if its a noob
Honestly nothing I was hooking all of them and when they got someone off the hook I was playing nice and didn't tunnel, she couldn't loop even for a noob, she threw all the damn pallets down lol but other than that she just didn't do the gens I believe or helped anyone off the hook
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@PiedPiper365 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/84949/camaraderie-could-become-problematic
Itll get nerfed hopefully cuz if I run against survs that all are running it I'm just gonna DC cuz I won't put up with that pfft 34 frocking seconds??? Like ######### that will put killers at a huge disadvantage, especially since the new killer perks arnt that good tbh
But!!! I'll have to play against survs who do have it to see if I still have a fighting chance if not then try to come up with a strat
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@Kebek said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/474/Q6T3AI32XCIX.png
What do you guys think ? 34s is a long time imao. If all 4 survivors use it it's bonus 136s from all hooks. Huh it's still better then having dead perk like it was before I guess.
Itll get nerfed hopefully cuz if I run against survs that all are running it I'm just gonna DC cuz I won't put up with that pfft 34 frocking seconds??? Like ######### that will put killers at a huge disadvantage, especially since the new killer perks arnt that good tbh
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/650969#Comment_650969
no, please dont. i was just messing around cause i had a PiP to spare. lol
Lol ok😂 but I'll try it when rank reset happens so I won't get destroyed
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@Leonardo1ita said:
Watch from 18:08
This shouldn't be allowed.
I mean , the exit are:
-On the SAME wall
-You can see both staying in the middle
-The distance between them is <60 meters for sure.
#########?! There is no way out unless you find a key. In this situation there is no stealth mindgame for the sole survivor.
@Peanits do you have any plan for this?
Thanks, Leonardo
Because it spawns randomly man, u complaining makes me believe ur just salty that Monto won he has skills far beyond me and u, same with ohm.
They had a chance, they failed, the killer win cuz he was good at it, if u also watch the vid then u will know he only used his sneak attack which gave the survs a small advantage. Also since he never did it before so that boosted the survs chance up, if u watch the vid u would also notice the survs unhooked each other when he wasn't to far away so that's on them they messed up.
Monto won cuz he was too good, he didn't use perks, he only used his sneak attack on the pig which we all know has a charge up time. So don't get mad cuz u saw ur fellow survs die cuz they sucked. I also am a killer main BUT I also play survs to so wat I noticed is ur decision u make at the moments that require quick thinking is wat determine wat happens later on
So git gud
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@AntiJelly said:
Genuine question. How is it that it's fair for Survivors to have Toolboxes? Prove Thyself is fine because all it does is make up for an inefficiency so it's not actually speeding up the objective more than normal, and Resilience is a risk/reward, but Toolboxes just let Survivors do objectives faster without any skill involved.
You just equip a Toolbox, and rush. That isn't healthy for the game. What if Killers had a perk that made any hook sacrifice Survivors 25% faster? People would riot. I think it's high time that Toolboxes get removed.
Feel free to criticize me or give a reason as to why Toolboxes might be fair or healthy. Or agree with me. Either way, discuss.
I'm a killer main and in all honesty if u can't win cuz someone has a toolbox then u should try and practice more, if u see someone with a toolbox aim for them tunnel them if u have to idc, but in all seriousness I had a match where everyone had a toolbox and I still win. So practice more and get used to going against survs with toolboxes. And monsterous shrine I believe that's what the perk is called makes it to where if u hook someone in a basement it will speed the process of calling the entity by 6% depending on wat tier it's on.so both side has something to speed their objective up, and with this being said I wanna take a wild guess and say ur somewhat new to dbd.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/811/G3T98DRRQFGZ.jpg
Feast your eyes on pure magnificence mortals
I'll give it a try I have all the perks on there but not all of them are purple yet maybe one or two ain't but the rest are, hopefully this is a good build
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@StupidButTru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/639541#Comment_639541
DS is useless now because most killers just wait out the timer just like Borrow Time, and Deliverance is only if you haven't been hooked and save someone. It's too rough in gameplay to run anything different when Killer meta is too strong for a average survivor.
The reason we killers do that is so we can make sure u don't have it and if u do then it's easily countered by juggling, I don't juggle I will leave ur butt on the ground and wait for someone to pick up and kill them and leave u for last or Mori u the instant I get so I don't worry bout u
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@MasterTater said:
What if they pull a fast one on us and just make the demogorgons power pulling Survivors into the Upside Down before he can hit them and just put the Old Freddy back in the game.
But it doesn't need to pull people into the upside down to kill them in season 1 episode 1 the demogorgon killed the scientist in the elevator even tho he wasn't in the upside down, and with that being said he also attacked Jonathan and was about to chomp his head off before Nancy threw the rock, also all the soldiers it killed at the end of season one so I do believe they don't need to make it to where the demogorgon pulls people in the upside down
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@Nonfunctional said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/637003#Comment_637003
Couldn't even think of something more wrong. BT doesn't give you the right to be an idiot. Why should the killer go for the unhooked? Because they are a nice bloke?
If someone pulls you off hook in front of a killer and the killer chooses to go for the wounded survivor he's just making the smart play.
99% of survivors claiming tunneling are as legitimate as killers claiming Gen Rush. Most of the time neither are happening. It's just a nice crutch to lean on when you are a bad survivor/killer.
Lol so true, whenever I'm walking away from the hooked surv and see someone sneaking in by imma down his but to they can say it's camping but it's not cuz they wearnt playing smart if I saw them, and if ur gonna be stupid and unhook them when I didn't have the chance to walk away then ok ur dead to I'll hook the surv that just unhooked and pick up and hook the other one, I get alot of complaints from survs saying I'm camping when I hook someone and decide to check all the hiding spots around the hook😂 well it's on them for being so close tbh and when those toxic messages roll on in I just say git gud [BAD WORD]. And they usually don't send anything else
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@Locker_Monster said:
I had a match today, & I had Dying Light. (I know not all Survivors are like this, but those that are..Whew, boy!)
The first guy I find is my Obsession, so I down him, hook him.
I go 5 steps; his friend unhooks him. I go back, decide to chase his friend (NOT the obsession)
I down his friend, hook 'em. Go towards the closest Genny.
Low and behold: Obsession is doing Self Care nearby & I hear him. I down & Hook him. (second person is unhooked by this time)
I go 5 steps: Obsession is unhooked. I got back, I chase the unhooker. (AGAIN: NOT the Obsession.)
I down the unhooker. Obsession, still injured, tries to Flashlight me. I down him.
Hook other guy. Hook Obsession (Now dead).
Finish match.
Obsession: OMG! You scrub no skill tunneler! You tunneled me hard! Learn to play!
Me: Dude. I randomly found you the first two times.
Obsession: No, you tunneled me! Even at the end!
Me: You tried to flashlight blind me. I hit you.
Obsession: That's tunneling! Learn to play, scrub!
So...what? I should have ignored him when he tried to Flashlight me? Apparently hitting someone more than once is now 'tunneling'. Killer aren't supposed to get KILLS. We're just here to make the game kind of scary, give the Survivors a lollipop, and let them leave?
Bloody hell.
Just laugh it off we killers have to or it will start to take it's toll
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@Meme said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/635937#Comment_635937
LOL I play both survivor and killer, just talking about the killers who camp when they get butt hurt. In fact, I mostly play killer, but you'll never see me be toxic.
Lol I was bout to post a mean comment till I saw this, I play both sides more killer but when I play survs sometimes I run into killers that will facecamp anyone that gives them trouble, when I play killers I just report them for dc after I down them or put them on the hook, I'm not sure if it helps but I do it cuz im Hoping they get in trouble lol, but yes both sides have there fair batch of winey little [BAD WORD] and all we can do is deal with them
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@Accorn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/635572#Comment_635572
I guess I just haven't gone against a good pig, though I've never seen a wraith get 3k since I hit 13 rank. Might just be luck. As it stands though, go to rank one and anyone outside of the big 4 loses nearly every time.
I main Billy but when I'm the wraith I can easily get 3k and a 4k if the don't dc especially on the game map, i don't even have ruin for wraith or my Billy and I'm still somehow managing to climb the ranks, difficult yes but I'm still doing it even tho I'm on rank 13
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@thekiller490490 said:
As a Billy main, I find why people complain. They run in a STRAIGHT LINE towards their favorite loop and wonder why they didn't make it. They repair the gen out in the middle of nowhere without a getaway plan. They don't listen to the chainsaw and only for the TR, so they don't have their precious 4-8 seconds to get to their favorite loop.
Yeah. I see why people hate Billy.
When I vs Billy, I exploit his cool down. I know his charge time. I understand his limits.
Remember when everyone complained about clown? Where did those go? Did those complaining get good vs clown?
(When survivors are on their game though, oh it can be a rough match. I do win a lot, but losing is usually being stomped on by a well coordinated team and a long chase or 2. It really is a matter of Getting Good. )
Yeah I Main Billy and get alot of crap from the toxic servs
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@AWesley91 said:
So the devs aim for games to be average 2 survivors escape and 2 die. And judging from the public stats, it looks like that is pretty close to actual results. Like on console the worst killer has 40% kill rate and that is the worst
But killer mains are frequently asking for adrenaline nerf or gen nerf or saying the survivors are OP. Killer mains, do you feel like the game should be balanced for an average 3 or 4 kills per game? Not what is, should it be balanced for average 3k or 4k?
Do you think enough people will play survivor for games to happen if you get your wish?
I main Billy and honestly I feel like a decent kill or an average kill is 2k cuz I still pip up and win and the other two survs win and pips up, but that doesn't stop me from always going for the 4k
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So true bout Billy I main him and people always blame me for their own demise, when I play survs I make sure to run spine chill even if it's just a green tier 1 spine chill it's still so helpful
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@Groxiverde said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/630174#Comment_630174
I don't understand you. Hillbilly has some addons that make his chainsaw be charged almost instantly. In my opinion the Carburettor Tuning Guide is overpowered and it's an essencial part of the instasaw build.
I'm a Billy main and I honestly don't very much use that item for the fact that I don't need it unless I feel like I'll be givin a rough time by how the survs look, but yes if u play Billy u most likely be using it but not all Billy's use it keep that in mind, cuz add-ons are supposed to help u win, survs have them and killers have them.
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@Bludge23 said:
Instadown with map pressure with no cooldown plus still stays at 4.6 m/s. I think he should be nerfed before spirit but that's my opinion and I don't care if that's my the majority here.
Thanks for sharing, and I understand ur frustration, but I've been told by multiple survs that they love going against him cuz of it and u honestly just gotta learn how to juke him cuz he is fairly easy to juke when he is reving up his chainsaw or zoom zoom across the map
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@Groxiverde said:
My only problem with billy are his instasaw add-ons.
He doesn't need any add ons for it to be an insta, but there are add-ons that will make him have to hit u twice instead of once with the chainsaw because it'll increase speed that it is charged and give u more bloodpoints at the end of the trail
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@Chatkovski said:
Map pressure and instadown without any limit.
I always liked the idea that Billy needs to reload his chainsaw with gasoline placed everywhere on the maps. A few seconds of dead time after crossing the map several times would not be a luxury. Even the Nurse has timeouts after her teleportations.
The refilling of gas would waste touch time and make it impossible to guard gems and Chase looping survs while having to refill his chainsaw. I dont think that be a good idea
But it's a good thought tho
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@Horrordude83 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/630139#Comment_630139
True, a god Billy would have a chance, but there's maybe a handful of them. The greats would still be crushed though.
Yes I can't argue with u there. A great Billy would get crushed.
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@xChrisx said:
Because he can oneshot, instead of 1hit down should only make survivors injured, the chainsaw can be used to reach the other side of the map in few seconds. Can be enough
Idk know bout that honestly cuz some of his add ons makes it wear it won't one shot but will increase certain things along with more bloodpoints if u use it, Billy already got nerfed once and I don't want to see if him getting nerfed again will kill him. I've went against and talked to survs that loves to go against Billy since he can give u a hard time and they don't want Billy nerfed either
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@Marcus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/629923#Comment_629923
Yes, he is balanced because against good survivors he is just a 115% speed loopable killer, even most of the survivors mains I know agree with this.
Legion is the easiest killer to rank up, he is literally a emblems machine, but you don't see anyone saying about him being OP.
True
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@Horrordude83 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/630065#Comment_630065
Put him against any coordinated SWF team rank 6 or below, and watch him get destroyed. Nurse and spirit are the only ones stopping them. I'm not talking about solo matches, or uncoordinated teams that think they know what there doing, I'm talking about great teams. They will destroy a great Billy.
Idk honestly if we got the God Billy to play against a SWF I honestly believe we Billy's would win ( and by God Billy I mean the best of all is Billy's)
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@JESUS_CHRIST said:
Idk.. both threads I've seen so far are people talking about people that want to nerf Billy and not actual people that want to nerf Billy. I know it's something noob saibots complain about sometimes but it's not one of the more common survivor complaints.
I know unfortunately Billy was the first killer I ever was and I'm good with him, he already got nerfed once and the winey survs got their way, but getting nerfed again would kill him
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@LonlyGamerX said:
First off I would say Billy is the 3rd of top killers cuz he is easier to doged and defeat compare to nurse and spirt and if he gets Nerf it's not just the survivors fault I've heard so many people say he is op and if too many say that then he does get nerfed and I would would say facing him is ex if u know what to do
In all honesty going against him isnt gonna be a easy win cuz Billy is one of the top 2 ( reasons I say this is because people usually say nurse is below Billy and the spirit)
So he already got nerfed once doing it again would kill him and make him useless
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@May_Be_AFK said:
Yea, I enjoy playing against Billy. It doesn't take long to figure out if you can or can't juke him. Insta saws aren't needed and I have more fun with turn Billy. Trying to get people from across the map is probably the most fun I have as killers, in general.
Also anyone asking for a nerf, he used to be able to flick left or right at the end of a saw and drill people.
I'm glad u enjoy Billy cuz I do too, and see he used to be OP but now he is balanced
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@ChronoSeth said:
"Git Good" they say. "He's Balanced as he is" they say.
Remember, the game is fueled by us Survivors. Have fun playing as Billy when all of you have to wait 20 minutes for a match.
When I created this discussion it was NOT MEANT FOR PEOPLE FOR PROPLE TO GET MAD AND DEFENSIVE!!! And u remember this game is fueled by the killers so I wish u luck when people like u run all of us off and u have to wait a [BAD WORD] hour. Also u might actually just suck at the game so git gud.
Now we will go back to being PEACEFUL LIKE I MEANTIONED IN THE VERY FIRST COMMENT
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@Carpemortum said:
Because people get caught making stupid mistakes and his chainsaw can make them pay for it quicker, and from farther away than most.
Most killers you can get an unhook as soon as they leave. If you get seen by billy, you wont even get them off the hook before you're laying next to them.
So stupid mistakes are punished more often, thus they get upset and blame the only changed variable in their mind: the Billy.
Exactly cuz if ur walking away from the hook but catch movement off to ur right or left heading torwards ur hook ur gonna go back cuz it's the killers job, and they got caught and have to pay for their mistake of not having a bit more patience
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Yeah when ur a killer main the toxic survs expect u to let them go and not pressure them. And yes Billy is made for pressuring survs and being able to zoom zoom across the map to keep the pressure up over there. But when the toxic survs don't get their way and u end up having a 4k which is a good match for u, they'll be it on u
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@JawsIsTheNextKiller said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/629949#Comment_629949
Don't worry they won't nerf him because he has a disability.
Ok thanks lol, it's just really normal to see killers get nerfed when u see alot of people complain. But I won't anymore, and goodluck in ur next match whenever u play👍
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@Judgement said:
My only issue with the Hillbilly is that he moves at the same speed a Survivor does when he’s charging his chainsaw, so he can just run up and point-blank everyone. If he moved at the same speed Bubba does then I’d be fine with him.
I see wat u mean and yes it is fairly easy to catch up with a surv when I'm Billy and yes the chainsaw makes it easier but he is easy to juke if u know how and/or practice doing it with friends or whenever u go up against Billy but I do believe Billy is fine as he is just when u go up against him if u have spine chill it helps alot atleast for me it does cuz it gives me a heads up before he even gets to me and before he even sees me
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@TR_stonez said:
Billy is fine i love playing against billy maybe the most annoying things are the perks they ussuslly run bbq, enduring, ruin spirit fury but other than that billy is gun to go up against unlike some of the other killers
Lol I don't have BBQ I literally just run wat is meant for him🤣 and still win, buuut I really do want BBQ lol
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@JawsIsTheNextKiller said:
From a killers perspective: The devs are nerfing the other killers but Hillbilly always stays safe from nerfs, increasing the gap between the top killers and the bottom killers and reducing our choice of who to play if we want to win.
I'm always gonna be worried when an update is fixing to roll out and people are saying Nerf Billy 😖
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@Andreyu44 said:
Because he is op?
Multiple people have stated why Billy is objectively OP,yet the "counter arguments" are just "yo,he is balanced,git gud".
Even my grandma can get 4k with Billy at any rank, its the easiest thing in the world.
And the majority of killers you see at red ranks are billis showing how "balanced" he is.
everyone can get to red rank with Billy.
He is the easiest killer to rank up with,because he is so "balanced" ,lolololol.
Honesty I understand wat ur saying but I really do believe Billy is balanced and is in a good spot, on his description it says easy for a reason u know? So that's one reason he is so high up and in the top 3 I believe if they need him it will just mess him up and nobody would play Billy
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@deathsia said:
Survivors who get downed by a Billy without addons are just bad period.
True and then they blame others except themselves
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@Yamaoka said:
I believe many survivors dislike Billy because he's:
1) too easy to play for what he provides (huge map pressure + legit instadown).
2) too forgiving. As Billy you can bump into every wall, lose survivors a million times and still win due to his strong mobility+instadown combination. It's safe to say even a bad Billy will win against "mid tier" survivors more often than not.
3) despite his strong map pressure+instadown basekit he also has 115% ms allowing him to cut off ways and m1 people easily making him more forgiving than he already is.
4) his chainsaw can't be juked if the killer has potato internet.
5) A god Billy will sometimes manage to instadown survivors WHILE getting looped around pallets by chainsaw flicking.
As I said that's just what I "believe" are the reasons as I personally don't struggle against any killer in particular except for good Nurses and Spirits as these two don't have any actual counterplay in my book.
My Billy is on 37 but I'm still trying to learn the chainsaw flick
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@AngryFluffy said:
As a survivor main speaking: no idea.
I personally enjoy to play against him and for me he is easier to juke than Bubba (even though Billy is way stronger than him, I'd choose to play against Billy over Bubba anytime).
Most rounds against him are pretty fun and I see no reason why he should get nerfed. I like him as he is right now. If you know how to juke it is possible to avoid his chainsaw for a good amount of time. If not, it's most likely the survivors own fault. Of cause there are situations where you can't do anything about it and just get chainsawed - but that just how it should be. A killer which can be looped for a little while and eventually gets you sounds like a good balance for me. This way it is fun for both sides you can have good chases and no one is getting absolute depression in the end.
I guess many people are just whiney because they still couldn't figure out how to avoid his chainsaw when he's running to them.
I'm glad to hear someone loves to go against Billy, even if I get alot of toxic messages bout me being Billy he is so fun to play against and to play as
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@Horrordude83 said:
It's because they can't run in the open and haven't learned how to properly loop yet. Once you learn how to loop properly tho, Billy's just a big teddy bear that purrs like a kitten.
Haha so true😂
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@NMCKE said:
It's because getting insta-downed isn't the most enjoyable thing in the world, and to a certain extent, I do agree, but he should stay as he is in my opinion.
I understand bout the insta down I play survs to and I don't like it when I get insta down but it's my fault and of the killer don't face camp me I'll do my best not to make the same mistake
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@CakeDuty said:
Billy is fine. He's strong, got an instadown and great map pressure, but I wouldn't call him OP or that he needs a nerf. He can still be looped like any other killer. The only thing is my friends say he should be a 110% killer, since any other killer with range attack (Huntress) or map control powers (Hag, Nurse and Spirit) has decreased speed. I don't entirely agree with that though.
I'd rather they take a look at Spirit instead of Billy.
True, yes they really should take a look at spirit, I think Billy is balanced the way he is u just gotta learn how to avoid him cuz not one killer is the same and u have to learn how to avoid each one effectively
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Also I mean no offense so please take it easy with the comments
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@SoylentPixie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/629608#Comment_629608
You are most welcome, a little objectivity goes a long way. Another reason I always promote playing both sides, even if its just practising in Kill your Friends. My friends and I actually spend a lot of time in KYF, trying out all the killers and different variations of survivor perks. It's a no pressure way to test things. I'm still horribly abysmal with billy, but that hasn't stopped me trying.
I'm glad ur able to have fun 😊 especially with ur friends. Tips for Billy for add ons get his spark plug and vegetable oil or if u have the spike boots put that on so u can turn faster, and with perks well I'll let u figure that out so u can find a build u love on Billy, goodluck and it was a pleasure
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I wish I was here for this 😭 I'm a very late Billy main😭 I'll soak my chainsaw in blood for u fellow brothers😖 my the power of the chainsaw lead u to victory brothers
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@SoylentPixie said:
I'll be honest, Billy makes me shudder and cry a little inside, especially if he has ruin, because I know I'm in for a tough time.....
....If I'm not completely on the ball!
Yes Billy is tough, yes sometimes it feels like he's the roadrunner on crack, and yes, he can snowball you like no other...but it takes skill. See that billy turning the corner like a formula one car? That actually takes practice, his speed is an advantage, but if his player doesn't make the right adjustments, he's headbutting trees like nobodies business. If the survivor is good at tight loops and running into crowded with objects areas, its a royal pain to get through it and still keep that chainsaw revved.
I loose in a lot of Billy games, but the ones where I manage to get out by the skin of my teeth, the ones where I'm part of an amazing team save during the EGC...those are freaking rewarding as hell!
Maybe I'm weird, or maybe i just try really hard to be objective about both sides, but I'd take the wet-your-pants near misses and edge of your seat escapes against difficult killers, over skipping on out of the gates 8 out of ten matches any day.
You certainly don't have to agree with me, but personally i think he's pretty okay. I can't really comment on his addons as i haven't looked into them with any real depth, but i still love his zoom zoom...even if it does make me want to burrow into the dirt beneath me to get away.
Ur the first surv I've heard say this, thank u I really do like how u went into details, I really do wish more people were like this especially for being I Billy main myself I get alot of hate messages 😂 but there are times I get messages saying gg and ur good and that makes me smile so thank u kind person and I hope u win ur next match against a Billy main
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I know he is getting slaughtered in these comments😭😂 funny but hopefully the devs don't take this seriously
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@prayer_survivor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/627172#Comment_627172
Killer complain about gen tapping. Lvl 18-20 survivors have a very bad experience at the beginning, when killers are like gods.
I had the worse time with Billy when I first started the game but it teaches u to be careful and when u see him get into a loop and find windows pallets so if he uses his chainsaw u can escape also when he uses his chainsaw he turn waaay to slow which gives yall a chance to do a juke on him, but when I started to main Billy ( i still play survs) I mastered him to the point that I'm not stupid and won't use my chainsaw if they are in a loop or if there is to many props in the way
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Here we go again with the complaining survs😂 and NOOOO cuz I main Billy and I'm actually really good with him I also play doc but Billy is my go to choice, if they would to Nerf Billy then honestly he'd be the bottom teir and not one of the best killers, also u can easily juke him when he is reving his chainsaw up and or running at u with it so u complaining tells us ur just not that good as u think so just leave Billy alone and ok play with someone else or start playing killer
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@SpaceCoconut said:
If something jumps up out of the ground and screams at you... would you turn to see ######### just happened?
Hahaha so true😂
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I think this will just make us killer mains and those survs mains argue more cuz atleast before this we could complain to each other cuz now if we go to complain we will get bombarded by the survs