Phasmamain
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They are both fun but ultimately pretty bad. Might as well add a base firecracker to the blood web
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No surprise. Not enough people play her so they’re not fixing her
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While small I saw they changed the keys description to say Hatch instead of Black lock. I’d say these changes are coming this chapter more than likely
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I’m so desperate for more flasks of bleach but I can’t get them :(
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He would fit well and I would love to see him. Cosmetics would be a problem though
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It’s weird. Adding things like rat liver, trapper bag and windstorm base would make these killers much less frustrating to play and make them better with a simple number tweak and addon change it’s confusing
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I’d say it needs a complete rework since it is both buggy and too strong
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@Toblerone007 said:
OP - You pretty much said all the weaknesses for Nurse. The greatest in my opinion is dead hard.
Now I get your frustrations completely when you verse a good nurse player and every blink they do is textbook and out of your control. The current desync on live patch is making nurse pretty much impossible to beat (if they're decent). I'm being hit by nurse and the red stain is still several metres away. Pretty much unplayable.
I see your posts all the time on this forum and you always give fair thought level headed responses and you deserve the same respect. My question to you is how do you make the nurse balanced? While they can phase through walls instantly there is always going to be players that perfect the blinks rendering it almost uncounterable.
I agree with you nurse has never been balanced. You only ever win if they're missing blinks.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945303#Comment_1945303
Exactly. Something for solo q's to communicate. That would make the game so much easier to balance.
First of all thanks for being respectful. While I’m not 100% on this nurse has an addon that makes her only able to blink through solid objects. Adding this while increasing her move speed could be interesting.
A more heavy handed nerf could be lethal blinks not counting as basic attacks. This would get rid of her synergy with knockout, the third seal and many others.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
This is correct, Nurse is not balanced. But people will defend her, just because she is difficult to learn, which does not mean that she is balanced.
There is just no real reason to learn Nurse, because you can simply play Spirit, who is almost as good as Nurse. Or you go full ez mode and play Freddy. Back in the day, Nurse was the only Killer who was able to compete with true infinites, Double Pallets and all this stuff.
Nurse how she is should not exist anymore, they should increase her Movement Speed and lower the strength of her power. But this will never happen, this would be pretty severe changes for a Character, even more than the Freddy-Rework.
But yeah, she is not balanced, not at all. Being hard to learn (and because of that played rarely) does not mean that something is balanced.
That’s exactly how I feel about her. Shes A relic of the past in her current form
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@VSchmitt said:
How to nerf nurse:
Play her untill you become good and you won't be asking for MORE nerfs.
You face a good nurse in what? 1 out of 100 matches? Just shrug and move on, especially when it seems that You've faced SupaAlf in his 4k streak in Gideon's, wich is arguably one of the best maps for nurse.
Just because they are rare I should just shrug it off? Do you shrug off sweat squads running 4 brand new parts?
I’ve said in my original thread that I know she requires skill but that doesn’t excuse her immense level of power. I know if I fought him he was a great nurse but that doesn’t excuse the fact he was able to do that in 2 minutes when we were all pretty spread out.
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We’ve disabled auto haven and crotus prenn but this is fine!
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More time to make things
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@Unifall said:
Nurse does have weaknesses though. Why do you think she has fatigue AND a cool down on blinks. I've had my fair share of nurse and honestly it depends on how the nurse you are facing is playing. You have to get in their head similar to spirit. Like is the survivor gonna double back? Will the survivor stay at the corner or keep going? Will the survivor vault or fake it? I would love to see a video on you playing against the nurse.
I’m on Xbox so it would be hard but I might try if I get one later. Problem was she downed me once and slugged the whole team afterwards so I didn’t get a chance to figure out how she played
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@katoptris said:
Nurse wasn't designed to be looped like the others. If you can't lose line of sight you're dead. Maybe the person you played against is a survivor main too. It probably how they predict what you gonna do.
They were good I’m not denying that but I had one chase with her the whole game so I didn’t get a chance to figure her out
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Yeah some faces look great like Jane or felix while others look like that
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@SMitchell8 said:
Nurse weakness?
Don't get found. She can't do anything if she can't find you. Don't loop or play games, just be stealthy.
Stealth is inconsistent and most nurses run tracking perks to counteract this. Stealth in general is just inconsistent
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@woundcowboy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945590#Comment_1945590
That’s more of a problem of other killers being weak. And as others have said.... why should killer be balanced on the people who are the absolute best, while survivor is balanced around bad players? You can’t have it both ways. That being said, Nurse has plenty of counterplay. If you can’t be bothered to learn, stop complaining.
Like what? Line of sight blockers don’t work when she’s running metal spoon or I’m injured. Running into her barely works.
Any other counters I’d love to hear them
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@BaldursGate2 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945552#Comment_1945552
Exactly that, but that guy knows it better.
He will just argue: Not every survivor is on competetive tournament level. Guess what? THE NURSE ISN IT EITHER YOU ...
I agree not every nurse is good but you don’t need to be a god nurse to hit consistently. How can she be balanced when people consider much worse killers like blight and huntress balanced?
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@woundcowboy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945387#Comment_1945387
She can’t..... if you’ve seen her tournament matches, she averages 2k. Other killers average 0-1. This game is survivor favored.
This game is survivor favoured because most survivors are bad. If they balanced around tournament squads survivors would quit. Nurse is way too strong compared to other killers deemed balanced by the community (blight oni hag).
Why does oni have a weaker power than nurse but requires a charge up to obtain it? Same with Myers. She has better anti loop than slinger and equal mobility to blight. How is this fair?
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@kyogul said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945223#Comment_1945223
You aren't allowed to say that. You are aware that survivor bad killer good, no?
Ah crap you’re right I’m in no right to complain because I play the stronger role
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@BaldursGate2 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945472#Comment_1945472
Lowest kill rate means, you will give up before you even scratch on the term of "good". You have no idea what it means to become good with nurse, but just complaining because you are not be able to play smart against her. Your problem, not the nurses one. Good players will still give nurse a hard time, you aren't one of these good players.
Good nurses won’t have any problem 4king every game. Slap on infectious and slug to victory
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945387#Comment_1945387
Think of it this way: there are very few Nurses that are capable of consistently 4k'ing at red ranks. Of those Nurses, only a small percentage will consistently 4k mid to high tier tournament teams. We're talking a small percentage of a small percentage of Nurse players. I lose maybe one game per month on Nurse in normal queues and I'm considered a low tier to mid tier at best Nurse in the competitive scene. I struggle against good teams.
I do know she requires skill I’m just saying a killer of her power shouldn’t exist since it makes balancing a lot harder
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@MadLordJack said:
Nurse + Ruin/Undying/Infectious Fright/I'm All Ears is easier than Spirit with Stridor, because once you get last that initial hump of learning to blink you can autopilot the extremely significant majority of trials but with Stridor Spirit you always have to play at least a little attention.
Of course, I'm going to get crucified for that one, but I no longer care.
You and me both. How people can think she is balanced is beyond me
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@[Deleted User] said:
Nurse is one of the most balanced killers in the game.
The only way for her to win is to be better at her skill and decision making than you are at yours. That's it.
The problem people really have, is that they get paired against someone whose skill DOES outweigh their own as fair bit, and the problem is then that they get stomped with no chance of winning.
My problem with nurse is her ability to ignore both pallets and windows which a core to dbd gameplay.
Tbf nurse kinda outmatches survivors of equal skill too. Especially with perks like infectious or knockout. Even spirit still has to play around pallets nurse just throws that out the window
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It’s just unfun for survivors to be instantly killed
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@BaldursGate2 said:
Everyone that thinks this killer is not balanced, should just play it themselves and see how it's going for them.
I know I’d get demolished as nurse but what happens if I get good with her? I get easy 4ks with no challenge besides bugs
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You dodge based on what the person is wearing? Just play the match honestly
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@Frontdoor6 said:
I don't think its the Nurse, but Infectious Fright that is unbalanced, i've been thinking that for a while
Infectious is strong but nurse makes it oppressive similar to stridor on spirit
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@OniWantsYourMacaroni said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945221#Comment_1945221
It would be much better to just buff all the killers so that they are closer to nurse and spirit similiar to bringing solo closer to SWF
While I like the idea of buffing all weaker killers I do want them to be like nurse and especially spirit. What makes playing against killers like blight and billy so fun is the interaction. There is equal opportunities for both sides.
Nurse and spirit don’t have this. Nurse have very little besides LOS blocking which won’t work while injured or stealth which isn’t reliable. Spirit has iron will.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945382#Comment_1945382
Tis is not possible simply due to the design of the game. You want to give every killer teleportation and insane movement speed? Cuz that's how you can bring Trapper to those two killers' level.
I’m talking general power level not giving everyone mobility. I know some killers like trapper will probably always be weak but I feel like evening out the roster is very important and that goes for the highs and lows
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@Kolonite said:
lmao I knew this would happen with the new tome.
Completely unrelated as most nurses I fight have been playing her long before tome and are very skilled with her
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@woundcowboy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/227449/nurse-is-not-balanced
You don’t know how to play against Nurse. She has to guess when you break out of her vision, and even when she can see you, she has to guess if you are going to run back at her or keep going. Nurse is fine.
If she’s fine then why is she the only killer who can consistently 4k tournament squads?
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@EvilJoshy said:
Keep in mind Nurse has been buggy for over a year. Ever since her rework her blinks keep glitching or she doesn't go through certain terrain. The fact that this killer has had these bugs for more than a year tells you the devs don't want to touch her.
Yeah I want them fixed as that would allow the. To finally balance her
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945221#Comment_1945221
There's no problem with having strong killers. You can't nerf killers just because they're strong. If you do that, then you have another Hillbilly rework that nobody except biased players likes.
There's always going to be something that is meta in any game, and Nurse/Spirit are these two meta killers. Beyond them, other killers are playable well against average teams, but if you really want to compete with better teams and have your skill rewarded, they're the only two choices.
And that’s my issue. These two killers outperform the others so much that they are the only ones played at tournaments. That’s why I want them nerfed and the other buffed to the level I said
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Killers mains complain just as much
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@[Deleted User] said:
You need to ask yourself this first.
Do you need to nerf (even more) a killer who is being played only by devoted players and noobs who play from the rift and won't do well regardless because they're not familiar with the bugs and power first?
Or do you need to address the fact that majority of the killers are unplayable against good swf teams that will win if they want to?
Which is more common?
And by the way, a swat squad isn't necessary to beat the average killer. Even the average 4 person swf squad is capable of destroying most killers, even good mains, simply because the game is unbalanced.
If you think the first choice, then you are biased.
If you think the second choice, then you are biased.
The logical answer is balance them both, but that's not happening. So keep Nurse as it is, because she's the only killer along with Spirit who rewards actual skill and evens the playing field against good teams.
But if spirit and nurse are insanely strong compared to the rest of the killers whys shouldn’t they be nerfed? If these killers can consistently outperform other in every map and with any perks there’s a problem
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945213#Comment_1945213
Lol, that's not happening. Everyone should know ever since Hillbilly's nerf that they don't intend to make killers good for the sake of being good, they just want to make them fun to play and sometimes somewhat good.
Then why is nurse insanely strong but frustrating to play due to bugs? This is why I want her changed
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@[Deleted User] said:
Pretty sure you played against SupaAlf lol, I remember seeing a game like this on his stream. He's a 5k hour Nurse main, so there are like 10 people out there on his level.
This match was today so it’s unlikely but who knows. I’m just saying I don’t think its fair that a killer like nurse exists
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@[Deleted User] said:
You need to ask yourself this first.
Do you need to nerf (even more) a killer who is being played only by devoted players and noobs who play from the rift and won't do well regardless because they're not familiar with the bugs and power first?
Or do you need to address the fact that majority of the killers are unplayable against good swf teams that will win if they want to?
Which is more common?
And by the way, a swat squad isn't necessary to beat the average killer. Even the average 4 person swf squad is capable of destroying most killers, even good mains, simply because the game is unbalanced.
If you think the first choice, then you are biased.
If you think the second choice, then you are biased.
The logical answer is balance them both, but that's not happening. So keep Nurse as it is, because she's the only killer along with Spirit who rewards actual skill and evens the playing field against good teams.
I’d rather they balance killers around blight or onis power level and then nerf survivors accordingly
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@Mr_K said:
Like how these OP threads are typically based on seeing a lot of X killer. Maybe you are just annoyed seeing the same killer over and over.
Realize the current rift is Nurse and Oni. You are going to see a lot of them.
Tbh I very rarely see nurse. Doesn’t mean I hate fighting her any less. Oni is actually one of the best balanced killers as he has an insanely strong power but he has to earn it
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@AChaoticKiller said:
Hey man if survivors can get 4 extremely good survivors and run meta to then destroy nearly every killer they come across then i think it is only fair that if you get good at a very very skillful killer you can the same.
It's not like people are picking her up and becoming pro nurses in a week.
Oh I agree she’s hard but she is a detriment to the balance of the game similar to SWF.
Difference is one is easier to tone down
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@GraveHunter said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945132#Comment_1945132
Do you get those a lot? I've looted quite some boxes and don't get that many tbh.
I also quit playing survivor now I have all my survivor challenges done in part 1 of the rift. The stupid hits makes me wanna pull my hair out :/
I’m not getting many off the blood webs but I’m getting some. Currently have 18 toolboxes and 31 firecrackers
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If survivors had different strengths everyone would just play meta like they do now
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My advice is to go play something else or enjoy the easy 4ks. I want event items so I’m playing survivor but some matches are unbearable
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Casuals opinion can be important tbf especially in a game that can’t be balanced around the top players.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1945001#Comment_1945001
I agree I hate that map. Well gg's to you. Its nice to have competent team mates in solo queue.
I know there’re a commodity
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1944946#Comment_1944946
Yes I believe you were. He hooked you near an exit gate after we finished all the gens. I opened the gate, got you off the hook, and myself and the Claudette body blocked for you out the exit gate.
He was your typical Ghostface player. Stealth camping near the hook waiting to mark who ever came in for the save. He did it to you earlier in the match when you came to rescue me.
Ah yes I remember god they need to remove that map honestly
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1944843#Comment_1944843
Off topic but I think I played in a match with you yesterday. Were you playing Jane facing a Ghostface on Shelter Woods? If so I was the Dwight on your team.
was I wearing the sweater with pink hair? I might’ve been wearing something else but that’s what I normally wear. I think your right
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@GannTM said:
Yeah, I would think getting impaled on meat hooks and getting slashed by a variety of weapons constantly would be enough for the survivors to want to escape.
Don’t their memories get wiped after every trial?
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Good for long loops where you can deny the survivor getting it and after a hit for a quick follow up when combined with the tonic