Nazzzak
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@Slurpin said:
Sluzzy makes a return and just annihilates everyone. Make it happen.
Pretty sure Sluzzy hangs out on the DBD Steam forums occasionally, so they're still in the trenches.
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Don't bother targeting them because they just use the herbs to remove their cage states. I had a quick game earlier before I went out and the two killers were targeting the bots over the live players and I watched a Yoichi bot go straight to a yellow herb once they got him on death hook. So you're just making more work for yourself. Plus they have really obvious bot behaviour, so hiding them would be impossible, especially with their default cosmetics lol you'll pick them.
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@XtremeDBD said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883872#Comment_3883872
now that sounds ridiculous. Very bad queue times I'd predict. Killer would be way better than survivor
It was quite a popular option as I recall when the survey came out
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"bite on my bullet till im dead hard"
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Maybe we can get the 5v5 mode from the past survey next
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@CLHL said:
Survivors got nothing but ridiculous buffs in each iteration, to the point where they now even can recover hook stages, but somehow manage to get bodied in every match. It's extremely hilarious, because it doesn't seem to have a solution, on paper they are extremely broken but all the help in the world won't make up for the lack of skill.
Not sure if you've played survivor yet, but the bots are taking all the herbs. They know where they are and make a beeline. Nobody is recovering hook stages except bots in my games.
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@Saiph said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883180#Comment_3883180
What is YOUR solution to fix queue times? Easy to criticize, when every option is bad.
They are just TRYING bots, there's no reason to be so dramatic. The mode has been out for ONE DAY, so in worst case they'll disable bots after a few days and that's all, nobody was hurt, at least now we KNOW bots don't work, instead of having to speculate.
And yes despite what you think the forum IS likely the minority because BHVR conducted a poll about this, so it's fair to assume people voted yes, and there's no problem with that. It is fine to TRY stuff, especially after they conducted a survey.
You tell me not to be dramatic by responding to me with an extremely dramatic post lol
I disagree with OP that the devs will combine the two modes based on minority feedback received.
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I don't think people have issue with the actual 2v8 itself. It's the bots and inclusion of Legion that makes up the bulk of the criticisms. Both of which are completely valid.
It's good you're enjoying it
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@Garboface said:
I still find the things they do and don't do to be far better than the average rando.
I mean seriously, look at the top scores at the end of the match. Almost always bots. I have an archive of screenshots that I dare not post.
Because they prioritise unhooks. They're getting like 1k a pop. Have you tried to do the survivor unhook challenge in the 2v8 tome? It took me, no joke, about 4 games to get it done because I had to literally race the bots for the unhook. They've been programmed for unhooking to be their #1 priority.
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@FearlessHunter said:
Thanks for sharing your experiences guys! Glad to know it wasn't just me haha
I wouldn't mind so much if it wasn't every game and if the bots didn't glitch out more than they do in 1v4. We had one bot block the doorway in RPD because he was trying to heal my friend even tho the killer was right behind us. I think you can all guess what happened next lmao
I've noticed they have tunnel vision if they're near an injured survivor and will do anything possible to heal that survivor (even if it means screwing you over lmao)
They definitely have a programmed list of priorities.
I had one start healing me but then the last gen popped, so it immediately stopped healing (making a loud noise notification) and ran to open the exit gate next to us. I had a medkit so I walked off to the side a distance away to heal myself, but the noise notification had drawn a killer. The bot left the gate when the killer came close, then made a beeline to me. I was literally against the outer wall behind an obstacle, and being on death hook and injured I went down and died as a result.
I'm assuming it was to prioritise my healing, then the gate got prioritised over that, then after it abandoned the gate because of a terror radius, it prioritised healing me again and inadvertently led the killer to me.
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The sad thing is, they're really only there to lessen queue times. If they were actually there to make the games fun for everyone, then they wouldn't have programmed the bots to use all the resources. The bots know where the herbs spawn, they have an advantage over everyone. It seems like this was either a massive oversight or the devs simply didn't care beyond lessening queue times.
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We were told the other day that this forum is an isolated echo chamber and everyone else is totally fine with the bots. So why would they change things based on the small minority here?
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I think he's just buggy. I've had a couple weird experiences.
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@Nazzzak said:
This is a game I just had. A Mikaela bot who is apparently programmed to prioritise chests, as she just pushed against me as I tried to open one instead of just hopping on a gen right next to us. Then the Jonah bot in the background of the second shot, just repeatedly vaulting that one vault in the background. He was just doing it over and over (cbf uploading the video but i have one). There weren't even any killers around, why was he doing that? This is why people hate the bots 😑
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/SJFK2KTZARMO/194f2bbf3c253-screenshoturl.jpg
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/YFXFMKX104HP/screenshot-20250211-100018-ps-app.jpg
This Renato bot also must have been programmed to just open chests. He was literally just crouched in front of an open chest staring into it.
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@ThatRyanB said:
Hey there folks. Popping in here to let you know that our Community Team is treating collecting and sharing feedback with the team as our top priority today. While I'm seeing general comments about how folks feel about bots in here (which we are also sharing with the team), I'd also love to dig into the specifics of how you're feeling, as these can often be the most useful feedback points.
If there are specific instances of bots doing things that you've liked or have found disruptive in 2v8, I'd love to hear them.Hi Ryan, see my post just above for examples of the 2 bots in my game.
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This is a game I just had. A Mikaela bot who is apparently programmed to prioritise chests, as she just pushed against me as I tried to open one instead of just hopping on a gen right next to us. Then the Jonah bot in the background of the second shot, just repeatedly vaulting that one vault in the background. He was just doing it over and over (cbf uploading the video but i have one). There weren't even any killers around, why was he doing that? This is why people hate the bots 😑
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@danielmaster87 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883012#Comment_3883012
I don't think a single person was predicting this or not predicting this exactly, that the bots would always die last. But I don't think anyone was happy about the bots' inclusion either.
I didn't read the OP the same way. I read it as the last two spots in lobby are always getting filled with bots, so i responded as such.
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@Prometheus1092 said:
As previously stated, I prefer bot team mates and going against bots. You won't see a bot suicide on hook or just walk up to the killer as to say "kill me so I can go next" or you won't see bots complain about literally everything, slugging, tunneling, camping or won't see bots waiting by the gate to t bag the killer. Fill the rest of the lobby with bots, I'm good with that.
Maybe that can be an option going forward. Instead of forcing 2 bots into every game, they have an option for full bot games. Plenty of other folk like yourself might prefer that, especially when queue times become simply too much.
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But you don't understand... the feedback everywhere outside the forum was that bots were popular. So people can't be dodging them in lobby.
(/s just in case)
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I'm assuming Legion and people hoping to get a bot-free lobby (which I've yet to see anyone get)
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Yup. But we knew this would happen despite certain people telling us it wouldn't.
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Maybe. I got notification that action was taken a few days ago on one of my reports via the PS5 for a suspected cheating killer. I didn't record or submit anything via Support, I've stopped doing that as I never got a follow up so decided it wasn't worth the time. So the report that was taken action on was one I just submitted in post-game screen.
Of course I don't know what action they actually took, if any, but it indicates that it does go through regardless.
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@Thusly_Boned said:
The Jane (though the giant colorful ribbons make it kinda impractical), Thalita, Plague, and Knight are winners for me, the rest are pretty forgettable.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3881904#Comment_3881904
It's not even the color for me, it's how prominent they are. It's like advertising your location to the killer. Which is a shame because it's great outside of that feature.
Yeah that's what I meant by subtle. Compare Thalita's outfit to Jane's. Both following the purple theme, which is fine, but why did Jane need the neon? Thalita's is alot more subtle.
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I don't think that's necessary. Maybe a character badge for your P100 choice/s would be good though.
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@TonTon said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3881892#Comment_3881892
And? People said it was going to force bots either way which was false misinformation people were spreading I'm sure if that misinformation was the case it would have only allowed 6 slots able to be filled in custom games
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3881891#Comment_3881891
This was a special planned event. You think they're going to have bots in a special planned event? They wouldn't have even been an option. They signed up 10 content creators, not 8 and 2 bots lol they've already clarified the bot thing anyway. Myself and bm33 were just replying to your assertion that this event was proof of how an average game of 2v8 will go. It's not.
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I'm assuming you haven't solo q'd in awhile? Your MMR has likely dropped. I get the random team mate here and there that will barely touch a gen (usually they're running around for flashlight saves), but entire lobbies? And consistently? That makes me think new players.
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Picture Jane's outfit without those purple streamers and it's just perfection. I think they really ruined a lovely outfit with that purple. I get they want to stay on theme with the purple but they could have done something a bit more subtle.
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I wish I saw more Pyramid Head. Less though, probably Blight or Wesker. I see them more often than I like.
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Lol lobbies were pre-selected. It was content creators. They were all live several hours ago showcasing it. It's even in the roadmap.
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@I_Cant_Loop said:
well, looks like this is confirmed by BHVR. I am 100% out. This is a terrible idea and many, many others on the forum have expressed this opinion as well. We are ruining the survivor experience to give killers a little bit shorter queues. It’s very sad because I had a lot of fun playing 2v8 (both killer and survivor) during previous events.
Honestly I don’t know why anyone bothers to provide feedback on anything. BHVR have shown time and time and time again that they are going to do what they want regardless of how the community responds. You know what would result in even shorter queue times for killers? Having all 8 survivor players be bots. Why don’t we just do that?"Honestly I don’t know why anyone bothers to provide feedback on anything"
I've pretty much stopped bothering. The Wake Up! nerf was the final straw for me. They're out of touch with their playerbase.
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Playing for rewards is pretty much the only reason I play anymore lol it's the only time I feel like I get rewarded for my time
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@AetherBytes said:
It's not that people think she's still powerful or because entitled survivors or whatever. She's just ######### boring to play against. There is little interaction between her power and survivors. Unironically, trapper is more fun to play against because you never know when a window may be trapped, or Doctor because he makes skillchecks harder. Even twins is more interactive to face, with kicking victor and such.
She earned the nickname Dull Merchant for a reason more than 3 genning.
This. Her counterplay is tedious.
I'll be honest though, it's been awhile since I've seen anyone DC against her in my games. There's a few other killers I see more DCs amongst my team mates for.
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@TonTon said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3881015#Comment_3881015
Just gonna provide better context since the wording is poor on the post
2 bots is not definite it will try to fill to 8 survs but if a certain amount of time passes it will add at max 2 bots
I read the Epic article, it says exactly what the OP does. Nothing about waiting a certain amount of time. I'd assume that by "every lobby" they mean every lobby. Alot of the info in the article is pretty specific, so it doesn't seem to just be someone's assumptions. Seems they have accurate info.
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@OnryosTapeRentals said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3881015#Comment_3881015
I was just talking about this with a friend actually but how on earth are bots going to cope with 2 terror radii roaming the map? In 1v4 they abandon objectives at the slightest hint of a terror radius.
I really hope they've adjusted the bots' sensitivty to the TR otherwise it's just not going to work whatsoever.
I can see them now just running in circles on the spot with nowhere to go
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@Rogue11 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3881015#Comment_3881015
Sounds like this also means on the off chance you can scrounge together enough friends, you can't even avoid it with a full swf of 8 players. I'll be playing killer instead to get the rewards and then avoiding entirely. No way would I touch survivor with this mess.
I didn't even think about swfs. I'm thinking they probably will be exempt, as I know lots of streamers (inc Fog Whisperers) do 2v8 with their viewers.
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I thought they'd just be back up, not a definite. So it's 6v2 basically because bots run at the hint of a terror radius. I'm doing the Tome and not touching it afterwards.
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@Na1ts1rhc said:
I understand why some are disinterested in the bdsm tome lol. I for one think it's fine and does fit the tone of the game. The skins are cool my only problem is they're for characters that have 83 quadrillion cosmetics already. Meanwhile The Unknown has gotten one tome cosmetic since his release nearly a year ago. Sure he's getting one of the cooler artist from the fog skins we've seen in a while but my point still stands… Did we really want another huntress cosmetic?
I think the BDSM theme is fine, and I actually hope they keep being adventurous with their cosmetic choices. But I'm not a fan of most of the cosmetics themselves, i think they went a bit over the top with alot of small unnecessary additions. As the saying goes, less is more sometimes.
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I use only Warrior Puppers and Pocket Entity. Pocket Entity is the perfect size for a survivor, it's just like a tamagotchi
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That was engaging lol in all seriousness though, find something else to occupy your time. I play maybe 3 hours a week average now. Much less than I used to. You don't have to uninstall it. Just find more hobbies outside this game.
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Nice! Sadly you can now never post again unless you make a new account. It's the end of the line
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Yeah, I'm embarrassed by how long it took me to do the 'escape 1 trial' tome challenge
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Hopefully we don't have to wait too much longer for the collab. I'm guessing it'd take at least several months to put the winning cosmetic together in game, and that would be from the time of the episode filming, not necessarily when it went live for the public. So I'd guess before mid-year.
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Mine is currently at 50% survivor. 1pm here. Not... great, but it's something.
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I don't think anyone has the energy anymore. Gaming is addictive because of the dopamine hits. When you're not getting those reward signals very often, your interest will wane. Or in the case of a number of DBD players, you'll let go on hook in search of that rare game that gives you what you crave until you eventually just stop playing. And I don't just mean escaping, even things like new fun perks can provide that bit of excitement and pleasure. But those are lacking for survivor too lately.
New players are always coming in though to replace older ones, which is probably why alot of experienced players are confused at why they're getting matched with noob team mates so often.
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There's no evidence that people were even using it selfishly. The buff never made it out of PTB, they just decided to nerf it because "some feedback" suggested it MIGHT get used selfishly (according to a dev). The only people I've seen claiming it's used selfishly are those who don't even play survivor, which tells me all I need to know. I've never met a Wake Up rat, they're an imaginary boogeyman created to ensure survivors once again get nothing decent.
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I'd say they try to replicate it first and then go from there
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Mine didn't
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I played on Forgotten Ruins about half an hour ago and it seemed the same as always. Weird
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I'm glad they're going for more variety, especially since I (personally) don't find this Rift too exciting. I like Thalita's hair but that's about it.
@GentlemanFridge said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/6E3Q3PCSL4WN/image.png
Pehtebrhj
(probs not intentional, but the blue eyes indicate that this is a juvenile crow.)
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/7CWYQ8D73FQV/image.jpeg
Lol thought of you as soon as I saw that charm
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@Coffeecrashing said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3877515#Comment_3877515
Sole Survivor and Wake Up are in the top 5 escape rates, because so many people are specifically using them in selfish builds.
Yes yes, so all the hardcore killer mains keep telling us survivor mains. It's so great you have our best interests at heart and are protecting us from ourselves..