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  • @Devil_hit11 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3694360#Comment_3694360

    The good point of 1.0 was that turning off TVs was not encouraged. I can assure you most people did not play her for condemned back then, because I was a survivor main at that time. Her pick rate decreased drastically after the rework. Before 1 of 10games I saw one Sadako→ after rework 1 of 20 games.

    that is not true. her pick-rate was always nominal at 2%.

    Here's otz old pick-rate chart BEFORE she got reworked(1.0)

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/CJ4UIBJ4OXI1/image.png

    This is her 2.0 pick-rate before she got nerfed.

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/DN8AFZDLJK3W/image.png

    There is no stats on 3.0 Sadako but i definitely do not see her very often. The turning off TV will be the same but the degree of how much it affects you from teleporting can be severe reduced by cooldown's of survivors picking up tapes and cooldown for teleporting. For example, 30 seconds of turning off TV from survivor grabbing a tape will barely be so short that your mobility will barely be affected.

    IMG_1948.jpeg

    I know this isn’t the most accurate source, but I have noticed a decrease in her pick rate and I don’t blame people.

  • I 💯 agree. Very annoying. That’s when I start just slug slug slug slug x6. 🤣

    Then I get hate mail for slugging. I’m like you’re joking right

  • I’ve given this to a few other threads, so they can see it as well, I’ll leave it here for you as well if you would like to take a look. 👀


    @MechWarrior3 said:

    I am trying to make a collection of videos here for this thread as to why 3.0 sadako doesn’t hit the mark. I have more videos to feature, Video Proof is the best type feedback I think.


    I have some solutions and obviously not all of them have to be implemented on my goal. I would love personally to see is Sadako 1.0 with today’s buffs.


    1. There should be a counter and there isn’t. Just like with Sadakos 1.0 frustration but worse because at least at that time you could use STBFL. That perk doesn’t help you now due to the 1 second interaction. 🤷🏼‍♂️

    https://youtu.be/_8HLaYwvbts?si=0-qJTLkuxMId-OIj


    2. Telephone needs a buff. For a purple addon it’s weak. (Reposting, my apologies. )

    https://youtu.be/ndg1-UX4zBU?si=87siPLf0S3tyFVSZ


    3. Have no fear Onyro is here! Just kidding! Cleanse in her face, there’s nothing she can do even with STBFL. (These videos aren’t perfect but go give you an idea of the issues at hand)


    Solution. Change to 1.5 for the interaction.

    https://youtu.be/Hsg7PyUA1ZU?si=CTTAC8a35RdMY3ha


    4. Onyros Stealth = 🗑️

    Her stealth is countered by a loud lullaby.

    If that doesn’t catch your attention the “Visual Terror Radius” will.

    If that doesn’t catch your attention you can hear the direction she is coming from with her not only loud lullaby but behavior made it “DIRECTIONAL”

    IF THAT doesn’t get your attention you can see her flicker in and out.

    Addon - Clump of hair = 🗑️

    (It was possible to get value out of this add-on before they implemented the visual terror radius. It should have always been base kit, because if you are in power DEMANIFESTED you shouldn’t be at the same visibility as you are, when manifested 🤦🏻‍♂️)

    Guess what that also means?! Survivors pre-run this M1 killer with ease.

    Possible Solution? Make the lullaby map wide.. no directional lullaby. (Even if it’s a addon) Clump of hair base kit OR reduce radius of lullaby, remove directional audio it shouldn’t be there anyways.

    https://youtu.be/iBEJ0IVNlRs?si=vcLk62IHbv1h3_XW



    5. VCR = 🗑️

    This add-on wasn’t even that good to begin with but now it’s completely useless.

    You will never have to guess where she is because the TV will disappear and that is your cue to prerun. She’s M1 so you’re good…


    Solution - aura stays on. (Auras of TVs shouldn’t be visible unless you have a tape in hand in my humble opinion)

    https://youtu.be/1hpmWZfKIvU?si=SGR_7cqD16HDGYk4



    Iri vídeo tape and tape editing deck = 🗑️

    I am one survivor with half a brain, and I was able to turn off three TVs by myself, imagine what the other three survivors could do. Sadako doesn’t stand a chance. No mobility, No condemn, No TVs, but hey you might get a brief aura read :)


    Solution - Bring passive condemn back for tape editing deck. Iri vídeo tape - remove EITHER 20% longer cooldown OR let condemn affect targets. (If too strong then half a stack.)

    https://youtu.be/aB1SPavJJfY?si=thCX3AGzLlFxqiNt

    (I tried to organize this the best I could, it’s 3:30 in the morning so forgive me if things are not perfect or a little sloppy. I’m just passionate and I’m trying to make this right.)

  • I put this thread here I made as well to show videos of why she is weak. If anyone has time to see it :)

    I stayed up till 3am making these. Not done yet either.

    @MechWarrior3 said:

    I am trying to make a collection of videos here for this thread as to why 3.0 sadako doesn’t hit the mark. I have more videos to feature, Video Proof is the best type feedback I think.


    I have some solutions and obviously not all of them have to be implemented on my goal. I would love personally to see is Sadako 1.0 with today’s buffs.


    1. There should be a counter and there isn’t. Just like with Sadakos 1.0 frustration but worse because at least at that time you could use STBFL. That perk doesn’t help you now due to the 1 second interaction. 🤷🏼‍♂️

    https://youtu.be/_8HLaYwvbts?si=0-qJTLkuxMId-OIj


    2. Telephone needs a buff. For a purple addon it’s weak. (Reposting, my apologies. )

    https://youtu.be/ndg1-UX4zBU?si=87siPLf0S3tyFVSZ


    3. Have no fear Onyro is here! Just kidding! Cleanse in her face, there’s nothing she can do even with STBFL. (These videos aren’t perfect but go give you an idea of the issues at hand)


    Solution. Change to 1.5 for the interaction.

    https://youtu.be/Hsg7PyUA1ZU?si=CTTAC8a35RdMY3ha


    4. Onyros Stealth = 🗑️

    Her stealth is countered by a loud lullaby.

    If that doesn’t catch your attention the “Visual Terror Radius” will.

    If that doesn’t catch your attention you can hear the direction she is coming from with her not only loud lullaby but behavior made it “DIRECTIONAL”

    IF THAT doesn’t get your attention you can see her flicker in and out.

    Addon - Clump of hair = 🗑️

    (It was possible to get value out of this add-on before they implemented the visual terror radius. It should have always been base kit, because if you are in power DEMANIFESTED you shouldn’t be at the same visibility as you are, when manifested 🤦🏻‍♂️)

    Guess what that also means?! Survivors pre-run this M1 killer with ease.

    Possible Solution? Make the lullaby map wide.. no directional lullaby. (Even if it’s a addon) Clump of hair base kit OR reduce radius of lullaby, remove directional audio it shouldn’t be there anyways.

    https://youtu.be/iBEJ0IVNlRs?si=vcLk62IHbv1h3_XW



    5. VCR = 🗑️

    This add-on wasn’t even that good to begin with but now it’s completely useless.

    You will never have to guess where she is because the TV will disappear and that is your cue to prerun. She’s M1 so you’re good…


    Solution - aura stays on. (Auras of TVs shouldn’t be visible unless you have a tape in hand in my humble opinion)

    https://youtu.be/1hpmWZfKIvU?si=SGR_7cqD16HDGYk4



    Iri vídeo tape and tape editing deck = 🗑️

    I am one survivor with half a brain, and I was able to turn off three TVs by myself, imagine what the other three survivors could do. Sadako doesn’t stand a chance. No mobility, No condemn, No TVs, but hey you might get a brief aura read :)


    Solution - Bring passive condemn back for tape editing deck. Iri vídeo tape - remove EITHER 20% longer cooldown OR let condemn affect targets. (If too strong then half a stack.)

    https://youtu.be/aB1SPavJJfY?si=thCX3AGzLlFxqiNt

    (I tried to organize this the best I could, it’s 3:30 in the morning so forgive me if things are not perfect or a little sloppy. I’m just passionate and I’m trying to make this right.)

  • To everyone on this thread and anyone else on this thread if you have a brief moment take a look at this compilation videos I made as to why the current version of 3.0 sadako is bad. I worked really hard on it.

    @MechWarrior3 said:

    I am trying to make a collection of videos here for this thread as to why 3.0 sadako doesn’t hit the mark. I have more videos to feature, Video Proof is the best type feedback I think.


    I have some solutions and obviously not all of them have to be implemented on my goal. I would love personally to see is Sadako 1.0 with today’s buffs.


    1. There should be a counter and there isn’t. Just like with Sadakos 1.0 frustration but worse because at least at that time you could use STBFL. That perk doesn’t help you now due to the 1 second interaction. 🤷🏼‍♂️

    https://youtu.be/_8HLaYwvbts?si=0-qJTLkuxMId-OIj


    2. Telephone needs a buff. For a purple addon it’s weak. (Reposting, my apologies. )

    https://youtu.be/ndg1-UX4zBU?si=87siPLf0S3tyFVSZ


    3. Have no fear Onyro is here! Just kidding! Cleanse in her face, there’s nothing she can do even with STBFL. (These videos aren’t perfect but go give you an idea of the issues at hand)


    Solution. Change to 1.5 for the interaction.

    https://youtu.be/Hsg7PyUA1ZU?si=CTTAC8a35RdMY3ha


    4. Onyros Stealth = 🗑️

    Her stealth is countered by a loud lullaby.

    If that doesn’t catch your attention the “Visual Terror Radius” will.

    If that doesn’t catch your attention you can hear the direction she is coming from with her not only loud lullaby but behavior made it “DIRECTIONAL”

    IF THAT doesn’t get your attention you can see her flicker in and out.

    Addon - Clump of hair = 🗑️

    (It was possible to get value out of this add-on before they implemented the visual terror radius. It should have always been base kit, because if you are in power DEMANIFESTED you shouldn’t be at the same visibility as you are, when manifested 🤦🏻‍♂️)

    Guess what that also means?! Survivors pre-run this M1 killer with ease.

    Possible Solution? Make the lullaby map wide.. no directional lullaby. (Even if it’s a addon) Clump of hair base kit OR reduce radius of lullaby, remove directional audio it shouldn’t be there anyways.

    https://youtu.be/iBEJ0IVNlRs?si=vcLk62IHbv1h3_XW



    5. VCR = 🗑️

    This add-on wasn’t even that good to begin with but now it’s completely useless.

    You will never have to guess where she is because the TV will disappear and that is your cue to prerun. She’s M1 so you’re good…


    Solution - aura stays on. (Auras of TVs shouldn’t be visible unless you have a tape in hand in my humble opinion)

    https://youtu.be/1hpmWZfKIvU?si=SGR_7cqD16HDGYk4



    Iri vídeo tape and tape editing deck = 🗑️

    I am one survivor with half a brain, and I was able to turn off three TVs by myself, imagine what the other three survivors could do. Sadako doesn’t stand a chance. No mobility, No condemn, No TVs, but hey you might get a brief aura read :)


    Solution - Bring passive condemn back for tape editing deck. Iri vídeo tape - remove EITHER 20% longer cooldown OR let condemn affect targets. (If too strong then half a stack.)

    https://youtu.be/aB1SPavJJfY?si=thCX3AGzLlFxqiNt

    (I tried to organize this the best I could, it’s 3:30 in the morning so forgive me if things are not perfect or a little sloppy. I’m just passionate and I’m trying to make this right.)

  • Her stealth ability has potential, but it’s so bad. The lullaby, the visual terror radius, not to mention the lullaby is directional so you can hear exactly where she’s coming from.

  • @cvpenguin5 said:

    What is even the point in playing Sadako besides liking the character's aesthetic? I used to be a Sadako 1.0 main but ever since 2.0 she has been ruined for me.

    She has stealth that is countered by a lullaby. She has mobility that Survivors can disable with no downside. She has slowdown that is extremely difficult to get value of that Survivors can mostly ignore then easily counter while also disabling her mobility at the same time. She has no chase power to make up for this. She literally cannot do anything. I can accomplish more with Freddy's power with his snares and teleport than I can with Sadako's power. I genuinely think Sadako is one of the worst Killers in the game. She has no identity and no purpose. There is literally no reason to play her aside from liking her visual design. Because if you play her for any other reason, you're better off playing literally any other Killer.

    She is unequivocally abject trash.

    EDIT: Oh, I can't forget to mention the Survivor experience. The one and only situation she excels at is bullying newer Survivors who don't know how to play the game, effectively serving as an exclusive noob stomper, making the game that much more miserable for only that part of the playerbase. Fantastic design. Abuses noobs and is abused by literally any other player above 10 MMR.

    Sadly I agree. I’ve played all versions. 1.0 was my favorite version. I’ve been fighting to get it back. I never wanted these other versions. Most of us never asked for all these different versions. We just wanted buffs for the current version of 1.0.

    Not a completely different character than what we paid for

  • I agree my friend. Their reworks aren’t living up to par except Billy. Even twins that people waited a few years for and her rework isn’t good.


    Sadako. 3 reworks later. Bad….Great…worse…nobody asked for Sadako to get a rework. We wanted OG sadako with todays buffs.

  • It certainly feels that way that's for sure. I load up my P100 Sadako, and the highest level I get is a P20 or 9. I load up on a P3 Killer and I get 80+ Prestige levels. Like hello? Make it make sense. I know levels aren't everything but it has yet to prove me wrong in my lobbies.

  • I get it, truly but I don’t think it’s too problematic honestly.

  • @Skitten56 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3693888#Comment_3693888

    I agree with pretty much all your suggestions. Passive condemn gain again in exchange for only the Projection TV giving condemn is a fine trade. I also like the idea of condemn amount gained tied to distance from TV. Only thing I disagree with is restoring old Ring Drawing add-on; this add-on resulted in the slugging meta that so many survivors hated. I'd rather they not bring that add-on back into its old form as a result.

    OG sadako would be such a good/ healthy/ fair and scary killer with the buffs from the reworks.

    Completely agree. Her original version was the most fun and also was the most thematically correct to the source materials. I wish BHVR would make such changes but tbh, I kind of just want them to also not touch her again. She is in a decent spot now even if it is not the most ideal. Last thing I would want is BHVR doing a 3rd rework and having it be as disastrous as the 1st rework.

    Agreeed! 💯 I’d be happy with this.

  • @BlueMoonBRUHMOMENT said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3693773#Comment_3693773

    I understand what you mean, but do you know how annoying this is for new players? Hell, even some experienced players who can't always read the patch notes.

    I still have no clue what Sadako's power does, why is a bar not filled in, why is a bar filled in. Just nerf or tweak the power, reworks are exhausting to deal with.

    I agree it’s exhausting. They need to STOP completely reworking characters. Just make changes of their original design. If it’s not duable than we make adjustments as needed.

    Sadako 1.0 needed to stay as 1.0 with the buffs she has today and any other adjustments if needed to boost her based of performance.


    Skull Merchant now that 3gens has been fixed she didn’t need this change. Revert her.

  • I feel like a broken record…It’s exhausting… She’s not OP, she doesn’t need a nerf, she needs a dework to her OG state, 70% of kill rate are hook suicides.

  • @Raconteurminator said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3693706#Comment_3693706

    So I was correct, then. The game can't handle more than two zombies.

    No. It was a question. Did they actually say that? Sorry mis worded. I’ve never seen them say that.

  • @Skitten56 said:

    I agree they should hide the TV auras, but only when they are holding a tape. This means survivors will be able to find a TV to turn off easily enough, but cannot abuse the aura reading in chase. The buffs BHVR made recently to her post-Projection speed boost however did help with this issue.

    Tapes breaking on hits is one of the worst things we could go back to. 100% against this. Her first rework was just a nightmare and this was a large part of it.

    I'd rather they go back to her release version where she only spreads condemn around the TV she projects to, but increase the range or stacks applied upon Projection. Also go back to how the tapes used to work with ticking condemn and survivors being discouraged to grab tapes unless they want to deny mobility. These changes and keeping all the other QoL changes along with Ring Drawing nerf would be her best version imo. It would allow for skill but also be balanced.

    I couldn’t agree more on this. 💯🥰 Always good to see you pop up sistah! Hahahahah

  • @Raconteurminator said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3693641#Comment_3693641

    Pretty sure Behaviour has gone on record as saying the game can't handle it.

    They said specifically “The game couldn’t handle a 3rd zombie?”

    but it can handle a lobby full of bots?

  • This was very thorough and I 100% agree with you, it’s nice to see that I am not alone in this. Thankfully, there are a few others out there that are supporting me and this as well.

    The only thing I do not agree with is “Tape interactions NEED to be classed as conspicuous actions. ”


    I could be very wrong on this, but I do not believe going up against other killers, and using the killer interactions causes the conspicuous notification. 🔔


    AnyWho, I do appreciate this post and I am currently making a lot of contact so behavior can see why Sadako 3.0 is actually an issue that needs to be fixed.

  • @solsol said:

    Back when DBD was p2p it didn't make sense to have the killer's ping since the killer would be hosting the match. However those times are long gone and nowadays everyone just connects to the same server.

    I think it would be valuable and informative for both the killer as well as survivors to be able to see the killer's ping. (Obviously it should say 'The Killer' or something to not reveal who the killer is immediately.)

    I agree. 👍

  • @Raconteurminator said:

    The spaghetti code can't handle more than two zombies at once

    sure it can.

  • I would personally love one more zombie. I agree also, they need to remove it from zombie hits too.


    QOL changes are needed too. Zombies are still bugged and get stuck. The AI could you further improvements as well.

    @MissiCiv said:

    The devs need only to remove the infection speed boost of his power that's enough

  • @Bafugaboo said:

    Every game can be a warm up game. You just have to not be placing the requirement to get an easy 3-4k. Focus on getting back into the rhythm and enjoying the game and you will bounce back.

    Eaaier said than done :(

    I main Onyro but occasionally I will switch to a p2 or 3 killer of mine and I get a lobby full of 80+. Sometimes levels mean nothing but for me they do. It’s so frustrating. I switch to Onyro my highest lobby victims are 9…. 😑😑

  • @Chocolate_Cosmos said:

    Nothing exciting for April 2024 roadmap.

    Twins getting identity changed and probably nerfed overall. Forcing Victor to hold Survivors but spam attack healthy Survivors sound bad.

    Blight new colision okay... Anyway.

    3 perk changes. DS will be used more and Ultimate is prob dead perk.

    Wow some skin collection for money wooohoo.

    I am just waiting for anniversary event (and chapter) to drop at this point.

    What he said to be honest.

    I mostly play killer, you guessed it! The Onyro. Matches with her are stale and boring lately. A lot of my joy comes from this killer but she’s so meh and feels like a tangled mess, other than that yeah, again what he said, just waiting for the next chapter and anniversary.


    Pretty disappointed with Sadakos Rework unfortunately.

  • @pseudechis said:

    "Gen rush" hasn't really been a thing since they changed BNP.

    No such thing as "kill rush" just killers who play well enough and survivors who screw up enough to allow quick kills.

    I strongly and respectfully disagree on Gen Rushing not being a thing. 😅

  • @Reinami said:

    I am convinced that survivor players only "like" going against the killers that are bad because they can bully them. This happened when they reworked billy. It used to be "i love going against billy hes so fun" to suddenly now people don't like going against billy anymore. Showing that it wasn't billy they liked, it was how easy he was to bully.

    I agree 💯 this happened when Sadako 2.0 was released. Survivors complained.

  • At least pigs stealth and ambush got buffed and they reverted the timer nerf 😊


    I also used my ears for the boxes anyways so the auras didn’t bother me if I don’t get to see them.

    Pig I think is still good. Sadako, on the other hand, is a different story. She’s all twisted up in design. Now she’s weak.

  • @jonifire said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3693060#Comment_3693060

    I think OG Sadako with all the buffs she got with the reworks would be very strong, fair and fun. The thing most people complained about were the TV cooldowns and maybe that the condemned range should be a bit bigger.

    My only problems with 2.0 were tp cooldowns and people constantly shutting of TVs to counter global condemneed (which is currently the same problem)

    I also agree with this as well my friend. That was one of my favorite thing about sadako 1.0 is it made people think twice about grabbing a cursed video tape and it should. It’s a cursed object. Therefore more TVs to teleport to more ways to spread condemn.

  • @Blueberry said:

    I like it. I made a post about about the same thing but for aura colors. They should allow different color options for them in the settings for people with visual disabilities.

    I agree my friend! The auras need to be able to be changed as well. Sometimes they’re hard to see and you miss your value. Same with scratch marks.

    I like your thinking ;)

  • @Samatrain said:

    Wouldn't this just make it a free win if you down or hook? I think it's in a fine spot but you could argue to increase the duration, but doubling it would maybe push it over the edge

    I agree an increase to duration would be nice, but double is too much.

  • I could be using it wrong but I feel like survivors just know. Like it’s too easy to figure out? I’m not sure. I would love to get value out of it especially with it being an endgame perk. It shouldn’t be hit or miss as much as it is.

    Endgame perks should be really strong since you’re going without a perk most of the game.

  • Great job General! 😍 You’re amazing! I was so excited to see this when you sent it to me on discord! So proud of you!

  • @OnryosTapeRentals said:

    You don't need to worry about getting banned.

    Disconnects are automatically tracked and penalised through a temporary matchmaking lock (seen in the first picture).

    As for the issue you've encountered, this has been happening for months but is worse as of late. It's been reported many times on the forums, Reddit, Twitter, etc. so hopefully they're working on fixing it ASAP.

    I hope so. I have matches as killer where I make a complete turn around and BAM! Disconnected….. lol

  • @MrDardon said:

    2v8. Nothing more nothing less.

    And I hope it'll stay there permanently.

    Sameeeee :)

  • @Devil_hit11 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3693051#Comment_3693051

    being closer has only been made her weaker. I personally don't enjoy going against current sadako or 1.0 Sadako. only 2.0 version was interesting to play against as survivor for me and interesting to play as.

    That’s fair. I enjoyed 1.0 and 2.0 the most. I really loved the passive condemn tapes a lot. Old yoichis fishing net lol heh. That’s just me. I’m hooked on it lol no pun intended.


    2.0 was interesting. I just hated the cooldowns

  • @Devil_hit11 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3692536#Comment_3692536

    it has been months with no changes. I have already accepted her current state as final state until new information is given. she is really unfun to play right now.

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3692089#Comment_3692089

    I was one of the first players to say that this version will not succeed. everyone else just told me that this version was good. healthy direction. I just don't see it.

    I had a feeling it wouldn’t be either to be honest. I was happier we were getting close to OG sadako.

  • @HEX_DEAD_BY_AI said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3692853#Comment_3692853

    ya I agree, I think a significant reduction in bp (if the killers choose to tunnel) will be somewhat effective.

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3692773#Comment_3692773

    As you said "I got gen rushed. 🤷🏼‍♂️". Remember, there are so many perks that explore the gens or decrease repairing speed. I think all your "4 kills" is by doing tunneling with low-rank survivors. During my first days playing this game, I met a lot of killers who successfully tunneled with newbies, and they said "EZ", at that time I also really thought they were good. But as I got better at playing, matching with higher-rank survivors, I found that tunnelers rarely got 4 kills. In your first comment, I simply saw you crying about gens rushed, now you say it's simply because you like tunnels (meaning you like to bother unlucky survivors and not really care about gens), that's so funny. Ya, it's your playstyle, your choice. As I agreed with "cluxdx", my title "punishment" but I don't really mean it literally (ya it's my bad in using the word), I mean that BHVR should have a way to encourage the killers not to tunnel, because the game should be fun for everyone.

    Gen rushed doesn’t always equal a loss. I also rarely lose if I tunnel. Do I have to tunnel…no…sometimes it’s useful..Not sure why you’re so bothered by my comment, but hey to each their own.

    Just because I mentioned it doesn’t mean I am “cryin” about it. It’s part of the game but when I tunnel that’s also part of the game. Imma keep doing it too. Been working out for me just fine. 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @ArkInk said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3692778#Comment_3692778

    Asking for an issue to be ignored until your own personal issues are addressed first is one of the most prime examples of gatekeeping I can think of. It's actively trying to silence the discussion in favor of a different topic.

    He never said in his own words he is trying to silence the topic or ignore it. So let’s not put words in peoples mouths when it’s written down on the internet for you to read.

    He simply made a suggestion to fixing the root of the issue which would in return help fix this current issue being discussed. (Bleeding Out)

    Again, nowhere in his message does he say he is silencing the topic or gatekeeping. He gave his opinion, his feedback.

    So again….I disagree. You won’t change my mind respectfully, so have a good day.

    @PotatoPotahto

  • Sorry, I disagree though. It didn’t come off rude at all. My opinion though. 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • Pennywise, the mummy, terminator chapter.

  • Nope. To be “fair” is it unfair to play unfair? An objective is an objective you gotta get done by any means necessary.


    When I play fair I get used and abused. So I stop doing that.

  • Its a known bug I believe.

  • That took skill. They needed their ears 👂 for that one. I feel it’s fine personally.

  • @Mooks said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3691716#Comment_3691716

    or let’s try not to gatekeep feedback. People can give their feedback/suggestions on topics that are not on top of your priority list!

    They’re not gate keeping Feedback. They also made a suggestion. There’s nothing wrong with that and you shouldn’t be calling out people who do so. A little hypocritical.


    As for the topic, this has been talked about time and time again.

    I think the best suggestion would be if all survivors are slugged on the ground for more than two minutes a button will appear that you can click forfeit so you can move onto the next lobby.

  • If I needed help securing a 4K I would take notes…but I don’t need help doing that by any means…. I get plenty of those….I also will continue to keep tunneling should the situation or trial require me to do so or if I simply feel like doing it.


    My MMR has been high for a very very long time, and I have 0 issues but that’s not the topic.

    The topic asked if I felt tunneling needed a punishment, so again. No… I don’t agree. 👍

  • @Blueberry said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3692694#Comment_3692694

    Yeah I’m just worried they think all 3 of those killers are fine where they’re at right now and we won’t see their fixes for years now.

    That’s my big fear too. God….

  • @Angelosso said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3692602#Comment_3692602

    How is it a weak perk when is removes the whole value to an item and also the flashlight perks such as "Champion of Light" and "Residual Manifest". Of course it takes up a perk slot, but that does also the perks that I mentioned and also the flashbang perk. I can see that it is not a S-tier perk, but it is strong in it's own situiations and removes so much.

    For the sake of the argument, let’s say it’s a strong perk… so what if it is? There’s nothing wrong with having a strong perk in the game.

  • @Blueberry said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3692686#Comment_3692686

    You did. I feel like there would be too much to write if you went into detail on each of them. I think SM is like full rework level of help, Trickster could be fixed with just a few tweaks he’s not far off, and Onryo doesn’t need a rework but significant buffs across the board.

    Oh for sure without a doubt. I’m thankful that developers are at least realizing this and working on enhancing their killers little by little, I know this isn’t possible but it would be cool if there was a specific team of developers designated to just handling this so we could get these fixes and reworks out faster.

  • Absolutely my friend. Thank you for your comment and your support.

    I tried to make my post on this thread easy to read and simple, I hope I achieved that.

  • @felipesegatto1 said:

    things are super unhealthy, unfair and unfun the way they are now.

    So is getting gen rushed.

  • @Angelosso said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3689578#Comment_3689578

    Can you say anything about why it is not needed to change anything?

    Of course, the perk is one of the weakest in the games, if survivors can get you to equip it, it’s one less generator regression perk they have to worry about.


    1) Takes up a perk slot

    2) It’s a weak perk.

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