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Are you really surprised?
Killers said they only camped and tunneled because gens were going by too fast, now that gens are slower they're still tunneling and camping and now with almost no penalty to it.
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@Seraphor said:
What's ironic is that killers have had to put up with a survivor sided game for years, with the kill rates since MMR came out being below 50%, yet they're still playing.
Survivors lose half a perk (you can still use DH to tank a hit, you just can't use it for distance to double the length of a chase anymore, and DS has a replacement in OtR) and apparently the game is going to die?
All of the survivors are going to uninstall after this?
So... who are the petulant little children again?
Survivors finally feeling what it's like to not win every game and they can't cope?
You could just... wait for your MMR to adjust you down to a suitable level.
Can you show me the stats with the kill rates being below 50%?
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@RenRen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077767#Comment_3077767
Can you show the stats out of curiosity? Also that doesn't really explain the 2nd part about solo Q not being the only thing being complained about.
These arent exactly new but I doubt it's much different now:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1067386/#Comment_1067386
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@RenRen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077744#Comment_3077744
About Solo Q? You do know that a very, very large portion of dbd has swf's right? I'm not saying everyone is a swf but seriously do you think the only thing that people are complaining about is solo Q right now?
You realize that most people are solo q right? Stats showed so.
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@Zen_but_not_Zen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077698#Comment_3077698
I'm surprised by the bubba, usually that's an instant chainsaw, hook, and head nodding 😂
For some reason Bubbas are sweethearts to me.
Here's one that basically facecamped the first person, then downed me and let me wiggle out because I gave him my toolbox, and then proceed to facecamp the other 2. I was even close to the claudette asking him to let me save her and he didn't even try to down me.
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@RenRen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077729#Comment_3077729
I mean I agree solo Q sucks. It always has been. For some reason the devs didn't "buff" Solo Q the same chapter they buffed killers.
Yet here you are asking why a lot of people are complaining. Your comment just answered your whole thread.
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@HectorBrando said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077603#Comment_3077603
I agree with this statement, as I Survivor I always ran SB instead of DH because I like consistecy and while DH had potential for game winning games what if you faced a instadown Killer? what if when the Killer was about to catch up you were in the middle of nowhere? SB always worked the same and gave the same value, as Killer I play Myers, Deathslinger and Jigsaw, both Myers and Deathslinger didnt really care that much about DH (Myers could bypass it with EW3 or get a super fast first hit which shortens chases anyway and Deathslinger was the best DH baiter in the game) so the perk was never really a massive problem for me nor handheld me in the slightest.
With this in mind the most gamebreaking buff Killers got is the combination of 2 SBFL stacks and a sprint reduction after hit, you barely win any distance after any hit and this is not related to DH in any way, if you are caught on a deadzone ("wHy ArE yOU In a dEAdzOne? l0l" because sometimes gens spawn there or you have to traverse one to reach a zone with gens) you wont make it to a safe tile before the Killer is already on top of you.
The pallet breaking buff is ok, Im fine with it, the 2,5% insta regression is also ok IF it was paired with a real nerf to slowdown or regression and they didnt increase gen timers by 10, the wall breaking buff isnt enough, walls still take too much to break and they are a problem in certain maps that have too many, the 10 seconds per gen is not ok, mainly because pressing M1 is not something people really like to do, they should have gone another path for stalling buffs and the decreased CD on hit and sprint is too much.
Yesterday I was hit with m1 as I was vaulting a pallet with lithe, the myers I was going against had that perk that the pallet breaks when the survivor vaults it. My lithe wasnt even over and I got hit again and downed.
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@Jago said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077682#Comment_3077682
Yes it's DH. Instead of talking of "Killer mains", do you remember how much time this perk alone could buy you ? Extend a chase, or even escape, denying all type of pressure a killer could apply, knowing that all survivors were running it ? Yes. Now this perk is dead, and it shows.
My chases are ending way faster and I never used dead hard.
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@Tsulan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077565#Comment_3077565
Yeah for being a "killer echo chamber" there surely where a lot of complain threads...
...almost like... this isn´t a killer sided forum. But that can´t be. It´s impossible...
It's still a mostly killer sided forum. Just these changes were way too much so more people decided to post now.
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My new way of trying to win games is just get a item right away from a chest find the killer and put it down and ask for mercy. So far has only worked with blights and myers and bubbas tho. Everyone else hates me :(
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@Jago said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077645#Comment_3077645
Personally, I don't care. I play both roles and usually non meta stuff so .. yeah. I'm glad Noed and DH are dead.
Cant' wait to see some stats from the Devs tho. I'm convinced the DH+Gens time nerf is too brutal. SoloQ feels doomed atm.
Noed is not dead though. I don't care about noed either way.
This patch would have been great if they only nerfed dead hard and left everything else the same.
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@RenRen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077647#Comment_3077647
I don't think it will but it is a buff isn't it?
A useless one that still forces you to equip an anti tunnel perk basically not solving the issue, maybe
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@RenRen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077620#Comment_3077620
Does the Basekit BT not count as a survivor buff?
If you think 5 second bt Will stop camping and tunnelling I have bad news for you
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@Jago said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077635#Comment_3077635
Because you have 3 team mates with their own mindset.
Sure, but if you think the killer buffs are minor, I’m sure you wouldn’t mind they got reverted
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@Jago said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077620#Comment_3077620
Dead hard was a buying-time machine, and an illusion tool of skill.
Add the +10 sec to gens, and thats now easy to understand why survivors feel pressured and weak.
The basekit buffs to killers are minor.
If they’re minor, why are my games so much more miserable now and my build didn’t get nerfed?
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@ThiccBudhha said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077591#Comment_3077591
When the survivors know how to play the game and do not have a weak link throwing the match. Lol.
Tournament level is where you typically see that, and it trickles down. Matchmaking specifically has quite clearly been tweaked since its (mmr's) inception, so you know, getting an actual high level lobby is more rare than it was a few months ago. But it certainly still happens, and it will always remind even the most timid of killer mains that pretend the game is killer sided because of their success against bots just how soul crushing difficult the game can be. I remember watching Otz wildly swinging at shack window where a survivor taunting him like some frantic beginner because of how flustered he got under the overwhelming pressure of competence. And that guy thinks survivors should be enabled to unhook with no counterplay, just to put things into perspective.
So Otz got frustrated in a match, after getting 50 win streaks. I feel so bad for him.
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@RenRen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077603#Comment_3077603
I'm not really saying the game is worse more so that the nerf showed a difference when someone brought old dead hard vs not having it. it's more a comment on the survivor than the game.
Delete dead hard from your mind and think about all the basekit buffs killer got without any survivor buff to compensate.
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@danielmaster87 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077357#Comment_3077357
Right, were those games with Trapper, Ghost Face, or Onryo, or were they with Twins, Blight, Nurse with meta builds?
Twins is a good killer now? Thought you guys were always saying they were bad.
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@RenRen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077588#Comment_3077588
I can't tell if your saying dead hard is better and killers are trying to draw attention to that or if your trying to say something else. Cause to me it makes 0 sense for anybody to say dead hard's nerf is a good excuse to draw away from buffs.
I’m not saying dead hard is better, I’m saying you blaming the game being worse for survivors just because of dead hard is not it. It’s about all the other basekit buffs killers got.
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Team work only works in swf.
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Can you give me an example of high mmr?
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@RenRen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077576#Comment_3077576
I heavily don't believe that most people don't care about the dead hard change.
I don't understand BHVR's choice in the meta change. If they wanted a meta change it would be less slowdown on killers and less strong loops but they both are very prominent things if not more.
I've yet to see any camping but I have seen a few tunneling.
Solo Q has always been bad so that's not really a fault of this update in it of itself.
Yea, the people who still care about dead hard are killer mains using it as an excuse to ignore all the other buffs they have gotten.
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@TheLastHook said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/335753/to-everyone-whos-rejoicing-this-patch
Narrator: but that never happened, because the game is still Survivor sided, by far.
Where is it survivor sided? Please elaborate
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My build has been kindred, bond, inner strength and lithe for months now.
I don’t care about dead hard, I’m sure most don’t either.
The problem is gens taking way longer (more 50 seconds total basekit) + killers still stacking slowdowns on top of chases ending faster for killers now, because their basekit chase power was also buffed.
Plus all the tunnelling and camping still happening because it’s easier now.
Plus solo q matchmaking being garbage.
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@Dead_Harder said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3077434#Comment_3077434
I won something like 30 times in a row. You start feeling a little bit bad after a while.
I had a blight yesterday that had everyone on second hook at 4 gens and he just dced and said “I’m done for today, I’m bored” 🙃
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SBMM is as crap as the old matchmaking was for me.
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People who say they’re solo q and escape 90% of their matches aren’t really solo players.
I’m almost at 6k hours, 5k of those being solo Q and yesterday my escape rate was easily like 10%.
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@Pulsar said:
I've accepted that I'll probably never be able to quit this game.
There's not really an alternative. If I dislike Battlefield, I can play CoD. If I dislike Fortnite, I can play Warzone. If I dislike DBD, I can play....DBD.
Same for me and I’m addicted :/
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@Devilishly_Rowdy said:
So basically killer is now what survivor has been for years. Got you. Stop over reacting and atleast take a couple of days to learn counterplay, or better yet, leave.
What an ignorant comment. Have you considered that telling people to leave is just rude?
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No. I wont shut up. I will keep talking about how solo q is garbage.
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No, I dont want anti tunnel perks. I want something in basekit that is actually meaningful.
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@DBDVulture said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3075555#Comment_3075555
My first game as survivor I looped a Blight for 2.5 gens with no exhaustion perk. The third gen got completed before I was rescued. I owe my ability to loop well entirely for chasing very top notch survivors for thousands of hours.
If you were "good" before this patch and "suck" now then that is a clear example of being carried by perks. I miss my Spine Chill but I am adapting.
Did you record it? I'd love to see you loop a blight that long without exhaustion perks, must have been a really good chase
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@ElleGreen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3076150#Comment_3076150
Every game has been toxic
Just goes to show a lot of killer players didnt want fair games they just wanted to bully solo q players even more to feed their ego.
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@Fruitcake said:
They covered part of the hitbox I think. If you click the blank space near their score it should pop up to view profile.
I just tried and it worked thanks. It's very wonk indeed
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Cant do gens when killers still camping and tunneling even though they were just buffed.
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@RatbasterdJr said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3076045#Comment_3076045
You can say that all you want. But the fact comes from the gameplay. Even at high MMR, my chases have gone to sometimes lasting over a minute because I had to chase them down AGAIN after they used DH, to lasting 25 seconds at the most. I haven’t changed anything about the way I play / chase. I have ran into a couple survivors who were still good and gave me a good run, but it’s much more rare post patch.
Yea, the facts is that solo q is still garbage.
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@RatbasterdJr said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3075957#Comment_3075957
90% of survivors issues is stemming from their dependence on DH to win chases while their buddies do gens. Too many crybaby survivor mains are too lazy to adapt to the new meta because their true skill level without a broken perk is showing. “wErE gOnNa QuiT”
Not true. I didn't use dead hard and solo q is still garbage. You people need to stop being obsessed with dead hard.
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@MrMori said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3075962#Comment_3075962
Well it's on the nose hilarious satirical comedy gold about how killers are pointing out that lots and lots of survs can't loop without DH.
But that fact is still true no matter how you twist it.
Let's give it more than 1 day before we judge the entire patch.
I have given solo q years I dont need to judge it any longer.
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@MrMori said:
Survs aren't predropping and can't greed and exhaust every pallet without DH. Keep your MMR high and you'll see that good teammates will come with time.
I knew these would show up eventually.
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You got us in the first half ngl
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Depends. If you only play solo q and don't want to play swf or killer, yes it is indeed time to uninstall.
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@pseudechis said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3075627#Comment_3075627
They never said you had to play it and there is nothing wrong with saying hey I'm not a fan of theses changes...
But there has been such a day 1 knee jerk overreaction that its a lil gross and I for one am kinda amused by seeing childish people meltdown over a game.
There's a bit of survivorship bias too in that players who don't like it are more likely to complain about it, but a lot of those players were complaining about solo queue every other day already so nothings changed much really.
My solo queue experience is pretty much similar to how it always was, with the added extra that I've been a caught a few times now when I didn't expect to be and that is refreshingly thrilling. But its only be 4 games or so which isn't much.
The whole "I'm uninstalling BBBBLLAARGGHH!" post, I mean server player numbers will suffice to tell BHVR how the game is going, announcing it on the forums for all to see in a fit of rage is just petting one's ego.
It's not a day 1 knee jerk. Solo q was already bad and these changes made things worse, again.
This has been an issue for years now.
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@ad19970 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3074448#Comment_3074448
I mean, that's really not the norm. Still haven't had one match like that, and I have been playing survivor a lot.
Not that it's not a problem though, it is, but I for one haven't gone against it yet, not even once. And I am pretty sure that is not what the OP was referring to.
4men swf with 4 meta perks was also not the norm yet here we are aren't we? solo q just nerfed, again
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@Thusly_Boned said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3074448#Comment_3074448
Clearly it's not, but how often is that actually happening?
Taking the most extreme example possible and citing it as if it were the new normal is disingenuous.
You mean like the extreme example killers used for 4men swf with 4 meta perks? true
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@Murgleïs said:
Lmao, I am a nurse working at night so don’t start with "a lot of us have jobs". People of the discord server are very friendly. If you are unable to socialize, work on your behavior, starting by having less prejudices about people you don’t even know.
I'm sorry but a lot of people on there and even on here are indeed not very friendly.
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@NamesCris said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3075631#Comment_3075631
literally last night and saw Zero issues.
Yea, sure thing
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Now ask the opinion of people who actually play solo q.
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@tester said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3075495#Comment_3075495
Yeah, I tried that discord server once. Had really bad experience. My last straw was when I joined lobby and 3 people started asking me if I'm gay. I kept saying that I just want to play the game and my sexuality shouldn't be any concern. So they kicked me for refusing to answer, because apparently it's okay to have gay only lobbies. So much for being inclusive. Imagine the outrage if someone made straight only lobby.
I had a similar experience on here.
Someone from these forums added me, asked me if I like gay porn. #########
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@Araphex said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3075616#Comment_3075616
Never said that. I play solo q and I'm doing just fine, thank you. What's childish is uninstalling your game because you're unhappy with the game changes.
So people should be forced to play a game they don't like? You heard it here folks, you are not allowed to quit dbd because that's childish.
And no solo q is not fine, it doesn't matter how many of you paid actors say it is.
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@ShinobuSK said:
There are people complaining about DH nerf?
Literally no one cares about dead hard, killer mains are still obsessed with it though.
People have a problem with most of everything else specially these ridiculous gen times and solo q being garbage,