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Also let me just tag @Peanits so we can ask whether it's safe - or allowed - to do so or not.
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I'm not sure whether this is actually allowed - it might fall under 'cheating'.
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@Master said:
@Dudddd said:
Console is so buggy and their reducing the hit box on survivors in mid patch im so happy finally all the boosted “ let me swing from far away and hopefully the tip can hit them” people will have to finally use their brain capabilities .Hitboxes wont be reduced, thats fake news
His name is Dudddd.
Don't argue with him. -
And no one is commenting on the second half of my post.
Come on, people. Stop repeating “this perk is worthless”. What do you think of my Shrine of Secrets idea? -
Stuff like how dropping a Survivor four times doesn’t give them grasp escape points, but three times and letting them wiggle out does.TheWorldconsumer said:I actually wonder what you would put in this guide to be honest. Killer has Doc+ bbq+ distressing, survs got "We gonna live forever". Add to those a bloody party streamer and go nuts- that´s mostly it.
Any working together with the killer should NEVER be part of a survs goal to get BP.
Interrupts (pulling off generators, totems, hook rescues etc, giving 600 Brutality and such.
Also with the new Safe Unhook score event and all that, you know? -
How about only allowing SWF to have two players instead of four, instead of removing it entirely?
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@AStupidMonkeyy said:
Dudddd said:
AStupidMonkeyy said:Give her normal movement speed and let her phase through walls and pallets with her power while reducing her HISSING noise because it makes it hard to hear survivors and she'd be decent.
Do you want a survivor to start on a hook also at the start of a trial? will that make it easier for you.
What? You didn't leave any real conversation, just a request offered to me? I mean if you suck that bad then dont play?
Don't argue with him man.
His name is 'Dudddd'.
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@profaned said:
Little blades dont insta downTell that to Michael Myers, bro.
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Something like this?
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I've been away without internet for a few days but now I'm back to respond to what Peanits said.
@Peanits said:
We don't necessarily ban just for farming. If it happens, it happens.I would say you probably shouldn't make a guide for it though. The more people know about it, the more they're going to do it wrong and potentially ruin the game for others. Farming at someone else's expense (killer + survivor working together to farm another survivor off the hook), not letting people who don't want to farm leave, etc. Those types of things are bannable.
So TL;DR, I would say don't, just because people are going to do it wrong and that's going to end up in bans. Farming in the wild, meh, no biggy. But it's not something we'd want to promote.
While I am intending to make a guide for farming, I intend to also leave a disclaimer stating to not let the guide encourage farming, but rather to make farming more efficient on the occasion that one would wish to.
To also explain not to farm players who don't want to farm and such.I understand if you don't want me to make a guide on farming on these forums, but I'd still like to do so if you'd allow me.
Regardless of the outcome, I hope it isn't problematic that I tell farmers that I encounter in the game itself how to farm better at the end of it. -
Ooh I get to post my OC again.
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@fcc2014 said:
Please don't nobody wants boring 20 minute matches. If 2 people dc on their teammates i will let them farm since the match is screwed but otherwise it is boring and takes forever.Which is the primary reason why I want to make a guide on farming - to help Killers and Survivors make the most of it if they decide to farm, for any reason.
Whether it's farming because two people disconnected; whether it's farming because someone failed to make it into the game; whether it's farming because a Survivor is AFK; whether it's farming just because someone feels like it.
There's a lot of points being wasted, and with the new Safe Unhook score event, even more. I hope to at least help players do so more efficiently. -
@SovererignKing said:
I don’t want the developers to go all “fan service” like F13th did with bathing suits and such, but it would be nice if they implemented some sliders for different body diversity. Of course nothing as erroneous as DD cups running around, or a morbidly obease Dwight struggling to fit his fat arse in a locker, but just some sliders for small tweaks to height, weight, breast size, ect.Custom Survivors when?
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Thanks for your input.
Hopefully Peanits will give his input soon. I'd love to teach people how to make the most out of farming. -
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Ages ago, NOED used to be a perk and not a hex.
Then Survivors cried and got it changed.
Now why would the Survivors want to be able to disable a perk that one-shots them, at the end of the game when they should be leaving, eh?
Maybe because they want to be able to bully the Killer without fear of getting their asses kicked for as long as they want.
I highly doubt the devs actually thought about that little detail when they made NOED able to be disabled by the Survivors.
NOED needs to be changed back to a normal perk, and then that would make a massive difference to Survivors holding the game hostage afterwards. -
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@White_Owl said:
The point is that you shouldn't try to unhook yourself when the killer is near. It's like getting the winning ticket, throwing it in the trash and then expect to receive the reward.What choice do you have when the exit gates are open, everyone's been slugged, and he's standing there just waiting for you to get off the hook so he can get his extra points and easily eliminate you from the game entirely, or wait until you go into phase 2?
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@Wolf74 said:
Tell me again… why should the killer be punished for you making a luckbased escape?Why should the Killer be rewarded more bloodpoints for you making a luck-based escape?
Survivors are being punished for managing something that only has a four percent chance of success, something that exists to allow them to escape as a last resort.
Self-escapes are extremely rare, you won't see them happen in every single game, so why should the Survivor be punished for making it off, and the Killer be rewarded?
I've already said that this is on the same page as Survivors being farmed on the hook - knocked back down, picked up, and put straight back on the hook before they are capable of doing anything.
A Survivor in front of me, who I just put on a hook, manages to get off on their own. I easily hit them back to the ground, netting another 500 points for Brutality, then another 200 for a hook, then 200 more for them going into Struggle Phase. That's 900 blood points for the Killer, immediately.
(i might have calculated the above wrong, but you get my point)
Or I could kill them with an Ivory or Ebony Mori offering, giving me 1000 points for a kill. That still gives me 500 for hitting them to the ground to begin with.
So on both occasions, the Killer will be given another 1500 bloodpoints because a Survivor had a stroke of "LUCK" to get off the hook on their own.
That isn't counting the points the Killer gets afterwards for the Survivor dying on hook.
The Survivor gets 1500 points for a successful hook escape, and that's it. The Killer is still rewarded more than the Survivor for getting the sacrifice in the end.And it's a 4% chance for it to happen.
Sound a little like an RNG reward?Why should a Survivor have the ability to get off the hook on their own if they are going to be immediately killed afterwards? It isn't fair for the Survivors, which is why every time they manage it, I let them find the hatch or go for the exit gates, because it isn't fair that they are stuck in an animation or can be put down and straight back on instantly for getting off.
This is not a "surrrrvivuh mayne" crying - I play both sides, Killer more, so don't let it make your argument biased against Survivors.
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Making the perk have an unlimited duration, let alone any higher than 30 seconds, would make it overpowered.
In the endgame there are only three generators left to repair. If a Surveillance Killer kicks all of them, they will all be shown in white to them until a Survivor starts repairing it. Then she can go straight to the generator because that wasn't 30 seconds, and even that implies that she hasn't done a full round of patrol between all three generators.
Surveillance has a 16 second duration for a reason, man. It's not completely useless, it's more suited as a late-game perk, which is the entire focus of the Killer who it comes from - the Pig. -
@Nickenzie said:
GT_Legend2 said:It would be cool if it acted like Tinkerer, just a thought though
I like the idea, most killer's can really benefit from this but... How about the Huntress? Will it get rid of her "Hum" radius?
Huntress' humming is separate from her Terror Radius, unfortunately.
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The lock-out of Rank 15-20 just turns the rest of the ranks into kiddie pools, especially when the game has a free weekend, is free to own like this month for PS+, or if it's on sale.
I've had Rank 6-10 Survivors and Killers play like Rank 15s and worse because of this change. Now there's basically only 15 ranks in the game and just five ranks going missing makes a massive difference to all of the others.
I've had Survivors who don't know how to pallet loop, Survivors who literally don't know how to run, and Survivors who hide behind thin and low obstacles thinking I don't see them.
I've had Killers who vault windows even when it's faster to go around, Killers who don't know how to break pallets, and Killers who don't even know how to use their own power.
On both ends? Disconnections galore.BHVR wanted to prevent people from deranking to noob zones to stomp? They just made new players storm into the ranks without even knowing the mechanics of the game properly.
We're going to have newbies reaching the red ranks. We already have them reaching purples.
BHVR didn't even attempt to prevent players between Rank 10 and 15 from being matched with players between 15 and 20. I was at Killer Rank 15 on PS4 and had a full lobby of Rank 19 and 20 Survivors.
Killers and Survivors can easily derank down to 15 and still be able to reach the Rank 20 players.
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@fakelove said:
@Judgement said:
@jiminie said:
Free escape when survivors have to complete x amount of gens for the hatch to even spawn, sureYes it's a free escape for that one Survivor who sat in the corners of the map doing literally nothing, waiting for everyone else to die so that they can get their precious 2000 extra bloodpoints that doesn't even buy them a common from the bloodweb.
You are both right to an extent, my suggestion is that they let killers Mori the last survivor if he's in the hatch radius, this way it's a matter of who finds it first
The Survivor is capable of jumping into the hatch while the Killer is wiping off their weapon. Being hit doesn't cancel actions that Survivors take, otherwise Survivors wouldn't be able to rescue from hooks after being struck, drop pallets, or vault windows.
Within the hatch radius, either the Killer should have no cooldown on a successful hit, or the Survivor should be unable to enter when hit within its radius.
Allow the Killer to interrupt hatch escapes when a dying Survivor jumps in as well.Or we can simply have the hatch closing ability put back into the game and Survivors get the hell over it.
But no of course, the devs only favour the majority so no ability to close the hatch will ever show up in the game despite them saying that it will. -
@jiminie said:
Free escape when survivors have to complete x amount of gens for the hatch to even spawn, sureYes it's a free escape for that one Survivor who sat in the corners of the map doing literally nothing, waiting for everyone else to die so that they can get their precious 2000 extra bloodpoints that doesn't even buy them a common from the bloodweb.
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It’s gonna be nerfed when the new chapter comes out, alongside Decisive Strike and a couple other perks.Brady said:Stop trying to touch Self Care. It's not needing any adjustments, buffs and nerfs, at all.
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How is being at 99% wiggle when you get hooked relevant?Milo said:@azazer said:
Milo said:@azazer said:
Boil over works well enough. I've had killers not use a near by hook for one further off, stalled their forward progress by making them hit obstacles, and a lot of times all I need is a body block or distraction to wiggle or. I think that's a perfectly balanced perk as it relies on team play.
Your suggestion is getting closer to DS in that a
Boil Over almost a DS? HA. It would be a legit counter to Iron Grasp.
Also how many times will someone actually body block for you in solo play?
I said weepeme's suggestion is closer to DS, not as it is now. It's just a way to get free without having to rely on teamwork.
How often your solo team CHOOSES to helps you is inconsequential. If you aren't working together you should be hanging from a hook.You know how many times i was 99% wiggle?
You either get off or you don’t. You aren’t owed an escape from the shoulder just because you were ‘so close’.
There is a reason BHVR didn’t make Boil Over speed up wiggle progress. It’s already got two effects anyway - Killer’s swayed more when you wiggle and hook auras are hidden when close.
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@Peanits are you able to move this discussion to Balance Feedback?
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The thing about the Moris is that you still need to hook a Survivor once to be able to kill them, or they need to be last alive.dannyfrog87 said:mori doesnt count. it has to be the tombstone and fragrant tuft of hair. i know ive done it on pc and ps4. so yeah lol. it can be a pain to get this achievement im telling you!
In both cases you should get enough points for at least a single pip.
Mori does work, because I got the Adept Myers achievement using one, like I just said in my first response. But you need to make sure to get enough points in the other categories or you might not get Merciless.
The game itself says that the Entity can be ‘Displeased’ if you kill too many Survivors by your hand, and that’s probably what happened in Rockin’s case. -
You need to get the victory condition 'Merciless Killer', where if I remember correctly you need to reach one and a half pips at the very least, or get four kills, with some other conditions.
You won't always gain Merciless Killer if you kill all four Survivors, especially if you get very little points in any of the other categories.
Take for example, you said yourself that you never hit a Survivor. As a result, you never got Brutality for striking a Survivor, you only got the 1000 Sacrifice points for Kill.
So if you don't consider any of the other categories having more than 500 points, as I assume your chases were short, you broke few pallets, and you didn't get too much in Deviousness, you'd have gotten a total of 4000 points at the bare minimum - four Kills - in Sacrifice only. That is only one category 'filled', and even then it isn't at its grand point cap.
So account for the 'no more than' 500 points in the others, you left the trial with 5500 points. I don't think that is too much more than a black pip, but to get Merciless, I believe you need to have had at least gotten one pip.
I'm not accounting for the points that The Shape gets for Stalking and tiering up Evil Within because I don't know how to calculate it properly.If you did get 'Merciless Killer', then the only thing that I assume went wrong is that you may have not equipped all three, equipped a fourth perk, or may have equipped an incorrect one.
But if I may recommend something for future attempts at getting the Adept achievement, you should avoid using the Tombstone. Using the Tombstone with the Fragrant Tuft takes far too long to get to Tier 3 and then you need to contend with the reduced movement speed resulting from the Tombstone.
It'll be better to take the Fragrant Tuft and J. Myers' Memorial and play normally. Then all you need is to keep trying.
Probably take an Ivory or Ebony Memento Mori to cut down on time in case you need it. I personally took an Ivory Mori and used it on a particularly annoying Meg that kept flashlight saving to get her out of the game as soon as possible.Good luck on trying to get the Adept achievement again.
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Bumping again.
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@Master said:
@Judgement said:
@Master said:
@Judgement said:
Let's discuss our most weird, lucky, or unlucky spawns in Dead By Daylight.
Here's one of mine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQRqMcSQuO4######### happens when you sprint around like theres no tomorow and dont hide
Dude, it was literally five seconds into the trial.
And? you hold down shift and run into the hallway without even looking around the corner first.
If you wanna be stealthy, you can do that easily. I manage it too
You really expect to see the Killer literally coming down the first hallway you check, five seconds into the game?
Keep in mind that a Dwight spawned next to me - the Killer basically spawned right next to two Survivors.
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@Master said:
@Judgement said:
Let's discuss our most weird, lucky, or unlucky spawns in Dead By Daylight.
Here's one of mine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQRqMcSQuO4######### happens when you sprint around like theres no tomorow and dont hide
Dude, it was literally five seconds into the trial.
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Are you currently working on, or planning to work on, performance optimisation for consoles and lower-end PCs?
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Leatherface: You need to catch up to a Survivor and rev your chainsaw up, and NOT run into any walls obstacles. If you miss regardless you lose distance on the Survivor.Brady said:@SnakeSound222 said:
Milo said:But there are insta downs thooooooooooo
You still have to work for the instadown. Surprisingly, you can still loop an instadown Killer. Instaheal takes no skill to use at all.
NoED, Leatherface, iridescent hatches, and Michaels unlimited EW3, hell even judith's tombstone, all are "hard working" methods? Yeah, okay. Hatchets and NoED ill give you that because skill to aim and noed ez counter
Though instaheals are rewarding without punishment I acknowledge, are only a problem when you see more than 2 of them.
Infinite Tier 3: You need to stalk for a long time to get there.
Judith’s Tombstone: Especially when combined with Fragrant Tuft, you need to stalk all four Survivors for all of the Evil you need, and you need to contend with the Tombstone’s reduced movement speed penalty. Myers moves as slow as, or even slower than, the Huntress and Hag with the Tombstone.
The time it takes to stalk to T3 with infinite and Tombstone is generally so long that four generators will pop, or even the gates will be opened, and you still won’t be maxed out if you face competent Survivors.
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Renaming the Anti-Hemorrhagic Syringe to Morphine could cause the game to be hit by every classification board that has a problem with drugs in games, especially if it mentions addiction in any way.fuzzyhobo said:Re-label the addons to something like Adrenaline or Morphine
Fallout 3 was temporarily banned in Australia because of Med-X originally being called Morphine. Though it may have primarily been because the player character was able to be addicted to chems that shared the names of real drugs.
However, your idea of calling it Morphine or Adrenaline makes sense, since both the A-HS and the Styptic Agent say that they prevent bleeding. That heavily suggests that the game’s primary definition of health is whether or not the player character is losing a certain amount of blood, as having a wound healed in reality wouldn’t mean that you’re healed up and uninjured, but it does mean your bleeding stops or at least is slowed significantly.
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Oh please do you really think BHVR would even try to prevent perks from being combined, if it would only apply to two perks?Salty_Pearl said:just make it so that survivors can't combine it with DS.
They should have done it ages ago to prevent Self-Care, Sprint Burst, and DS from being used all at once. -
Bumping for discussion as I sleep.
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Oh for #########'s sake, you are not ever getting another perk that lets you wiggle out faster.
Yes, "another".
You already have Decisive Strike which literally says that it 'fills the wiggle meter' when you hit the skill check after passing 35% at max rank, non-obsession.
But no of course, all you want is another one.
And another one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEI3N9kIyP4If you ever get that perk, you might as well have BHVR remove a perk slot because every single Survivor will run it, then the 'Holy Trinity' will become the 'Four Horsemen'.
After that, every single Killer you face off against will use Iron Grasp to counter it, and then Agitation just so they can likely put you right into the basement regardless of that perk.
Then you'll have another perk that's forced into the high-rank meta - Killers already need to use Ruin, then they'll need to always use Iron Grasp.If you seriously want a perk that lets you wiggle out faster, you honest to god have to git ######### gud.
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@iTacoman said:
omg on what planet would this be balanced lolOh yes you're right.
(Throws an Iridescent Head hatchet at a Survivor, on the opposite side of a pallet, or on the opposite side of the map itself, downing them instantly.)
It only makes sense that Bubba shouldn't be allowed to go straight through a pallet while doing Chainsaw Run without being interrupted.
(Afflicts all Madness effects simultaneously on all Survivors by using Iridescent King and High-Stimulus Electrode to cover a massive area that can't be dodged.)
What were we thinking, suggesting Bubba gets an ultra-rare add-on that lets him bypass pallets?
(Blinks across the map with five blinks, ignoring pallet-looping altogether, downing you with little effort.)
Forget about this discussion, people, Tacoman's right.
(Enters Infinite Tier 3 and instantly kills Survivors. Not instantly downing - instantly killing.) -
To add to the second part, the DLCs are also cheaper on Steam (PC) than they are on any other platform.TheOwl said:@douggie123 said:
Yeah but how much is the the other characters go back cost in iridescent shardsMy apologies if I misunderstand your question, but it is 9000 Iridescent Shards for one non-licensed Survivor or Killer, and the developers estimate that it takes roughly around 30 hours of in-game time to gather that many shards.
If you are currently playing DBD on a console, I think that you would benefit from switching over to PC. The game runs much smoother, and updates are released far quicker.
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If he gets a big enough ban from PSN, they can deadlock his console so he won’t be able to access PSN or any form of online service whatsoever on his console, bar game updates I believe.fcc2014 said:@JP_Cloud said:
He can’t change his name on PS4. You are stuck with one username. So he’s pretty easy to spot.He can create sub accounts as many as he wants. He would just have to grind the characters and play against baby players which is what he wants anyway.
Turns the PS4 into a PS2, pretty much.
And if he tries to use his account on another PS4, that one will get deadlocked as well. -
Obligatory b8 meme.
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@Peanits user Might_Oakk refuses to delete a video of someone creating or procuring and utilising a lag-switch.
Don't say I didn't warn you, Might_Oakk.
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There are far more noobs to stomp. I enjoyed my time on PS4 for a while until I truly realised how horrendous the performance is.
But I feel like my own skill is getting weaker, on both ends, for both platforms, because there are in a way far too many noobs to stomp and not enough actually good players.
That, and how OchiDO has now moved to PS4, will make Survivors even more likely than they already are, to be toxic.
It's far easier to successfully 360 and juke Killers on console solely because they don't have the precision of mouse aiming, nor do they have a smooth, consistent 30+fps at all times, and Survivors have a full 360 angle of movement with joysticks, unlike PC where they only have 8 directions and must fine-tune with their mouse aim.Devs really need to optimise their game for consoles. Fix whatever ######### exists to make it so bad, and remove the FPS cap. Make it happen for PS4, and not just PS4 Pro.
Give console players the ability to adjust graphical settings if they want to, like we can on PC. I'd rather have the game look like ass with good performance, than seeing every grain of wood at 12fps.
My Toshiba laptop can run this game at 45fps on the lowest settings as Survivor, and 30fps as Killer - because for some reason, having the weapon on-screen as Killer takes a massive toll on performance.
I know my PS4 is many times more powerful than my laptop, so why does the same game run worse on console default settings?Come on, BHVR. Optimise your game for console. Consistent 30fps at the very least, eliminating all drops whatsoever.
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I couldn't resist.
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Lag, yes.chemical_reject said:Is it lag or frame drops ur seeing. Because I and several other people have noticed since the last update the frame rate drop has been extremely noticeable.
The frame drops are a given since I run a Toshiba laptop lmao.
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Dare to take a wild guess?SnakeSound222 said:@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
now that I know what he does to his female fans.I've never heard of him doing things to female fans. What kind of crap is he doing to them?
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‘Someone’ has already leaked his account and such to a BHVR game moderator on Discord.
‘They’ found it extremely suspicious that he had a purple flashlight and a green and yellow battery on his Level 5 David.
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While I somewhat agree with this particular method, it still doesn’t downplay how significantly a single disconnection can affect the game.ShrimpTwiggs said:I'll say the same thing I always say on the matter. I think a time ban that grows with each time you DC is the best way to go. Start with five minutes, then ten, then fifteen, and so on until they're banned until the rank reset. This way, I think it discourages DCing without being to debilitating on someone who's internet might've went out.
But I agree - if you disconnect enough to be banned until rank reset, at least that’ll stop you from ruining more games for a while. -
Not going for scaling durations was because of how meagre the punishments are for the first few.Master said:@Judgement said:
Disconnections whether they are from pulling the plug, leaving the match, or Alt+F4, need to be punished more than just losing two insignificant pips.
Everyone - even the devs - know that 'rank means nothing' so why is a double-depip the only punishment you get for disconnecting from the game?
The reason I've brought forward this topic is due to how much I've been getting affected by consistent disconnections, and I have noticed the effects of players leaving the match happening to both sides.
If anything, disconnecting merely punishes those who are still in the game - it doesn't punish the player who disconnects.Let's look at it from the Survivors' perspective;
Scenario 1 - the Killer has Dying Light. The Obsession disconnects from the game because he missed his Decisive Strike or because he was being tunneled by the Killer. The rest of the Survivors suffer a 25% action speed penalty for the rest of the game because the Obsession disconnected.
Scenario 2 - two Survivors disconnect when no generators are completed, because they rushed the hook and got pulled off and hooked themselves while the Killer was there. The person on the hook dies and I'm the only one left in the trial. All that I can do is hope that the Killer is merciful and wants to farm before killing me or letting me go. If that isn't the case, then I last as long as I can, hiding and standing no chance, until I die.
Scenario 3 - You go to save someone on the hook. The Killer is not too far behind you, as you dropped a pallet to delay them. You go to save the hooked Survivor while the Killer is stunned and breaking the pallet, but they disconnect before you reach them. For a moment you're confused and you keep trying to save the Survivor, not realising what actually happened yet, but for that very moment of confusion, the Killer has closed enough distance to lay their second hit on you and put you down.Now the Killer's perspective;
Scenario 1 - the Obsession, made so by Save The Best For Last, leaves when you spent all your tokens putting him on the ground and slugging him for a moment so you can maybe farm more tokens from the other Survivors before killing the Obsession to keep them. The Obsession disconnects, leaving you with no tokens to begin with, giving the Killer a null perk.
Scenario 2 - You down a Survivor. You are about to hook them for the BBQ & Chili stack, or for Devour Hope, but they disconnect before you get them on the hook. You are robbed of 25% of the bloodpoints you would have gotten for the trial, and you must hunt for the rest of the Survivors as you didn't get to put them on the hook to see the auras. Or, you are robbed of up to two tokens that would have potentially allowed you to start oneshotting and eventually killing Survivors by your own hand.
Scenario 3 - The last two Survivors in the trial. One generator left, and they're all too close for the Survivors to repair, as you patrol between them all. One Survivor disconnects and the hatch opens. As soon as this happens, the other one escapes the trial by that same hatch. The first Survivor disconnected as they both found the hatch, and one let the other one escape by essentially suiciding.These are only a few of the scenarios in which disconnecting seriously affects the game. Disconnecting being punished, should punish the person who disconnected, not the ones who didn't.
For that reason, I propose an idea;
If a Survivor or Killer disconnects, they are banned from playing as Killer or Survivor (whichever one they disconnected as), or both modes for one hour in real time. If you're going to disconnect, better make sure you have a good reason and make sure you have a backup game to play for the next hour.
If you disconnect as the Obsession, you are banned for three hours, due to how significant the role of Obsession is in most trials. You doom your team into losing 25% action speed, or the Killer loses their ability to gain or lose Save The Best For Last tokens, stuck at 0, and so on.
This ban will not scale up for subsequent disconnections, nor should it progress into a permanent ban with consistent disconnections, unless absolutely necessary (ie, the already-in-place auto-ban where if you disconnect for 80% of games before the next season, you are banned automatically).
Also if you disconnect, your character doesn't automatically die in the game. They can be downed in one shot and will die instantly upon being hooked, but will not bleed out. This will allow the Killer to at least get their Devour Hope, Huntress' Lullaby, or BBQ and Chili stacks, as well as preventing an instant hatch-open and escape for the other Survivors.While this may encourage Survivors to essentially throw themselves into the Killer so he can rebound them into a hook for them to leave, this would at least allow the Killer to gain all of their points for sacrifice, stacks for perks, and so on. An hour's ban is a much better punishment than losing two pips of a mechanic that 'means nothing'.
The survivor-killer side bann is quite interesting, would maybe force them to paly the other role once.
However I believe 1 hour for the 1st DC is too much, it should be a time penatly that grows with the amount you DC in a set time and should reset after set time. (first DC 5 mins, 2nd 15 etc)
If you get a five minute ban you can go treat yourself to a wank in the shower and come back as if nothing happened, straight into the next game.
Considering how SIGNIFICANTLY a disconnection affects the game, the ban should be about as significant.
One hour’s ban at base, three hours for the obsession.
The fact that players who’ve been around for a long enough time, or toxic players who only played to be toxic, don’t really need BP, that’s why a BP punishment would be just as useless as a depip.Mister_Holdout said:@Master said:
@Mister_Holdout said:
I've said it once and I'll say it again.Start tacking on a -75% blood point penalty on all future games. Meaning, every time you finish a match you'll only get 25% of what you would have earned.
This penalty will persist until the player shows they can stay for an entire game. Usually by completing a certain number of matches without leaving.
For someone who has unlocked everything he needs already, a BP punishment is completely pointles.
Take me for example. I have all perks unlocked and a survivor P3, I play without items usually, so I dont need to spend a penny when playing survivor.Your kind of DC penatly wouldnt hurt me at all when I paly survivor. In fact such a penatly could be easily exploited by starting a few games and instantly suiciding to get rid of the BP penatly (if you care about BP)
There is a reason why every game uses a queue time penatly for DCing, it literally is the best and easiest way to tackle this problem
You mean you don't spend blood points anymore?
Because I would think blood points are always useful.
That said, you have a point. People with thousands of hours could probably rely on their reserves to keep them going while the penalty is in effect.
Perhaps adding a time penalty in addition to the blood point penalty is the best course.
A time penalty by itself could work too. Just not sure how you would implement it. I can't recall playing any games that used time penalties (at least that I can remember).
It’d only serve to punish newer players with much to unlock, and not the players with 20 purple flashlights and every perk on every character.
An hour’s ban would not only affect older players equally to newer players, but it would massively discourage newer players from disconnecting so frequently, which we all know the noobs do a lot in their first month or so of playing.