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Distortion , calm spirit, iron will, with alert and if you’re solo aftercare.
youve officially became a blade of grass.
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They were nerfed Bc they were too strong and literally killing the killer community. They deserved it tbh.
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I honestly don’t get many dc mates at all. I stick out even the shittiest of matches Bc it will make me a better player. Idk maybe the entity loves me.
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@MegaWaffle said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/348128#Comment_348128
The thing about the "Gen lock down perk" is that it still leaves 5 gens untouched meaning you can still have 4 gens being done and once the other gens pop up then the killer has lost a perk.
I think we are going to see some more troll Doctor players using the "gen lock down perk" to set up a perfect 3 gen strat right off the bat.
@MegaWaffle ya know I thought the exact same thing, welcome to 3 gen strat endings when this perk is in play. Or maybe I’ll just do totems with the new down time who knows. Killers keep telling me to touch them anyways I’ll wait it out to ensure I don’t get 3 gen’d 👉👉
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My question is , why are you still not trying to murder them? They’d leave if they felt like you were a threat. It’s more time for you to be honest
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/357064#Comment_357064
Well, how did the killer get three of you on the hook in the first place? Why didn't anyone dodge or unhook then?
Addons , no hide and seek build, get three by slugging , start hooking , rinse repeat until three are slugged or hooked, wait for the last to unhook.It’s not rocket appliances Ricky.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/357055#Comment_357055
Don't unhook with the Hillbilly on your ass?
He’s never on my ass when I start the unhook, stop being like this when you know he’s a zoomer.
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@Swiftblade131 said:
Or learn to dodge
Yeah let me just dodge that chainsawsprint during an unhook animation while 3 people are on a hook Bc busted billy is on the loose.We aren’t talking about normal billy chases.
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It means killer is camping.
Don’t wave your arms if a killer isn’t near you. You can stop waiving if the go off on their killer adventures elsewhere.
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@DeadGavin also the reason billy and nurse are considered balanced by people that aren’t absolute game mechanic monsters is Bc of their high mobility and ability to keep gen pressure, hook pressure, and maintain a chase while still being able to stall progression at a reasonable speed.
ill break it down for you they are considered balanced Bc they can 4K consistently without tunneling and camping, and keep map pressure. Meaning they as characters can progress a match with a reasonable speed for both sides.
broken :
using the addons stacked with perk builds to support it to apply all the ALL THAT pressure in one area resulting in a 4K with no real counter to it before any kind of progression can be made on one side.
Did it feel good when flashlight insta blinds were a thing? No, they were cheap
did it feel good against the old bnp 4 man squad? No, they were cheap
did it feel good to be ds 4 times? No it was cheap
did it feel good after they nerfed it and maybe it would happen even just max 2 times? No ,it was cheap
im saying this is also cheap and should be looked at with the way it can be built.
Also maybe just maybe if they did nerf nurse(which I don’t have an issue with but a lot of other players do) and billy then They can actually look at gen times or create conditions on how closely you can pop them to each other in order to prolong gameplay. At red ranks though gen time is everything for both sides and that’s against the normal killer roster in red ranks (spirit, billy, nurse, hag) who can 4K WITHOUT the op build NOT GOING FOR A SLUG SNOWBALL BUILD.
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@DeadGavin said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/356613#Comment_356613
How does it counter gen rushing if they aren't able to gen rush? Beats me.... Did you read what you said before you posted it? LOL
@DeadGavin you’re new around here, so I’m going to let how you just spoke to me slide ,and not absolutely rip into you.
It’s not a counter to gen rush Bc it’s not balanced. It’s not balanced because this is achievable to be able to 4K a team before a single gen. Therefore no gens are being rushed so this isn’t a counter, it’s game breaking. The character isn’t broken the build on the character is broken. Gen rush is something else entirely that needs to be addressed for the sake of other killers having hopes at being viable at high ranks. It’s an issue sometimes yuh. Especially if three are done within less than 2 minutes of the game. This is also an issue in and of it’s own. We both play the game , we both have issues.
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@Gorgonia said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/356942#Comment_356942
With the new system if you slug everyone and hook them once you might depip.
@gorgonia they don’t hook once if the survivors keep running to hook once saved. They down one left the other save , hook , then as soon as you(or they) save, down rinse and repeat ”snowball”.
i mean survivors can force them to depip as soon as he hooks the first three then not save your teammates, you’ll depip too though. Bc if you don’t come save he’s coming to look for you. Anyways no gens are done and you’re 99% not making it out of this Billy’s match anyways. Not alone. So you can feed him , or starve everyone.
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@Gorgonia they’ll still get their hook requirements Bc they slug 3 and leave 1 then let the snowball commence.
i think they can still get atleast 2 iridescent scores with the way they do it.
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I played everyday for a week for about 3-5 hours a day and got 9k shards. That’s why I said a few days if you grind real hard.
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Red ranks are better , mostly better teammates, and atleast 1/3 of the killers don’t camp and tunnel. Atleast not intentionally
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It takes a while I mean maybe a few days if you grind hard.
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top 3 killers(to face up against)
nurse
hag
pig Bc I like the extra trap mini game built in with her
bottom 3
busted billy he can catch these hands 🤚
Trapper Bc poor trapper
bubba Bc ehh the match is usually incredibly boring
top 3 survivors
feng min, Meg, Dwight , or nea okay 4 :)
bottom 3
laurie
quentin
jeff
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@PhantomMask20763 I also think another weakness would be too much. So I wouldn’t suggest that. Definetly a tweak to the addons though.
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I’ve been using lightweight a bit here and there it definitely helps if you’re good at gaining distance before danger is close. So in chases meh, in stealth and playing wise very good. Especially if you’re a gen jockey.
So so to further explain in scenario: you see/hear the killer coming from a distance. You can run off before they get close with lightweight there’s no time for them to follow your tracks from where you ran off from Bc they’ll of disappeared by then. They’ll likely spend time checking the area of the progressed gen looking for you due to no scratch marks.
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@TreemanXD can confirm our trappers are too devour hope lovers
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Billy
spirit
billy
spirit
sometimes Myers
billy
spirit
nurse where did you come from?
spirit
billy
spirit
is that an effin clown?
spirit
billy
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I wouldn’t put pig at the top of anti loopers but that’s just my opinion.
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Yo if you see they are a swf hit squad bring one. Don’t feel bad about taking one of them out if you need to.
if you see a bunch of items bring one especially if they are toolboxes.
im a survivor main telling you this.
bring one and if you feel the need to use it, then use it.
I have no beef with killers bringing them as long as they aren’t being a total “gg ez survivor kills” about it.
id use them on lower to mid tier killers that way you can play them and still maintain some control.
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“See a key bring a mori” is what I always say. Both are op but I like to see them.
Wish a red mori had stricter conditions though tbh.
dont blame killers at all though if they use them to combat a bunch of items.
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@KillerRaccoon hag is really good in the right hands. She can be a total nightmare. There’s some hag builds that make me go ######### with the way they are used, but it’s so rare that I digress a feel no need to call for a nerf. She needed the love tbh and I love a good hag main.
Huntress ehh I feel like they could buff her a little bit. I’m not sure how, but I think it would make a lot of people happy, I like to go against her, and I’m sure the mains would be happy about a buff, idk what but as a survivor she feels significantly weaker to go up against imho compared to other killers. I’d like to see her more.
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@Eveline nurse is stupid hard to learn on console and “git gud” at. Frame rates maybe Bc she requires a lot of precision?
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@Slayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/356734#Comment_356734
If op talks about addons i 100% agree but i think he s talknig about addonless Billy
Op “she” just for future reference is definitely talking about the addons , someone else said I wasn’t then everyone just assumed. I’m talking about the addons with “the build” and any slugging snowballing busted billy knows exactly what build I’m talking about.
I have no beef with the addons separate from the build or vise versa. It’s the combination. Since you can’t change the perks Bc of one character Bc the way they become op with those addons, they’ll have to change the addons. And I hate it for anyone that likes the addons and doesn’t take full advantage of this but it’s too much. It’s too much together.
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@Master said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/50960/billy-might-need-a-nerf-to-his-insta-saw
Just take no mither, it's a counter both to insta downs and slugging
@master I’ve been bringing unbreakable more but I can’t bring it for my whole team bud. Not a swf hit squad. Just a solo player.
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@Slayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/356667#Comment_356667
lol how the hell he can do that unless all for 4 survivors are running in front of him?
Survivors fault. Here some tips on how to play against Billy effectively :
1 ) Play Billy yourself
2) Equip Sprint burst and once he s at you sprint to loop spot.
3)Drop pallets dont be too greedy . I main Billy currently and survivors are too greedy to drop even a single pallet even though they injured
I’m not going to tell you what builds they’re running to achieve this if you don’t already know. Bc the last thing I want as a survivor is a bunch of copy cats, but it’s super ez with right perk build.
im not weak to all Billy’s at red ranks, it’s busted billy. And maybe I don’t want to become a swf hit squad so why are y’all trying to pressure me into something you hate so much to be viable against a red rank op killer build? You want me to make your life miserable? Is that what you’re saying?
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You complained about a lot of things that were changed and are incredibly weak now but are apparently still an issue for you. Learn some counter play
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@Delfador said:
Oh wait wait wait.
I thought you were saying the addons that give him to use his power instantly. You are talking about his base power?
Sorry bud but no, without insta down, he would be #########.
No no I don’t mind his insta down saw base power at all. It’s the addons with slugging + hook chasing. It’s a playstyle that’s broken.
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@MhhBurgers something needs to be done, idk what. You’re idea might work/help. Tweaking the addons idk, but jeezus.
As far as nurse I still don’t feel like she’s as bad as billy. I rarely see nurses play like that. You can still mind game her blinks even out in the open as long as you juke unpredictabily, if your decent at stealth she’s not that big of an issue. She’s only bad when she’s cross mapping the hook imho. Which they usually don’t Bc most of them are keeping gen pressure.
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bnp isn’t even a thing anymore and they don’t do anything serious at all period, that was soo long ago. I’m talking about now issues.
flashlights at this point are just annoying Bc 98% of the time they don’t work and can be avoided by simply looking up or to the side. I play killer also so I know. I’m a survivor main but that doesn’t mean I don’t play killer and know how incredibly weak flashlights are now.
They can nerf insta heals idrc I only use them very very rarely for lulz on myself to just get rid of them.
Adrenaline=noed in my book they are two sides of the same coin.
exhaustion perks are to help with chases killers have plenty of 1 hit perks and addons and I feel like they cancel each other out as far as balance.
I’m talking about busted billy.
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@Wolf74 said:
Insta chainsaw? So he has NO charge up time?
Just click M2 and the saw goes off?
Really?^^
(I like how survivor call everything "insta" or "free". XD )
I say insta Bc it’s an insta down and not a two hit. Meaning once you’re hit it’s instant “insta” stop knit picking it’s not a good look.
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@Thaznar this is why people can’t have nice things, they want to do incredibly broken things Bc they can, and ruin it for everyone else. I was fine with billy before this whole slug before a single gen became a thing. You got a 4K before a single gen, they can’t argue it’s not broken. These are red ranks. Idk man but something needs to get done about it, Bc it’s too much , and it’s not rare either , it’s common.
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@Slayer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/356632#Comment_356632
Despite obsession ds everything is fine
Bruh okay swap teams go to red ranks survivor and tell me how much fun you’re having when 90% of the Billy’s are slugging and snowballing and you have no choice but to either hide while your teammates die or run for the unhook to get slugged, then he slugs the next . Did I mention no gens are done? It’s BROKEN. I don’t run ooo , ds, or flashlights. I’m talking about people playing busted billy. Like I said I wish I didn’t feel like I felt the need to address it Bc billy is great for map pressure and when you are getting gen rushed. The fact he can down and out an entire team before a single gen and going for a save causes a massive snowball that you can’t recover from is so broken. It’s broken and it’s “game changing” Bc there’s no real counter for it. You have three options
- watch your entire team get slugged then snowballed
- go for a save and become the snowball
- or wait there is no three Bc there’s no coming back from it. Besides hoping you can do two gens before he finds you and becoming part of the three man hangout Bc he slugged.
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@Slayer said:
Get better you noob. You got used to ther killers that cant do ######### in a decent match of Dead by Daylight
So survivors are the only ones with broken things 👌
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@SlothGirly said:
But what if insta saw is the counter to gen rush? :omegathunk:
How’s it a counter to gen rush if they’re slugging and not even being gen rushed? Slugging before a single gen is even done.
:omegathunk:
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Honestly yeah I’m excited to see what they do with him.
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Bruh I’ll bring a medkit instead when I don’t run sc and the killer brings franklins (I guess Bc they assume it’s an instaheal, but it’s just charges) also Bc other teammates bring items but I’m just trying to touch myself yo. I’m not complaining, just saying. Can’t blame them when they see items to assume the worst.
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@Eveline said:
I wouldn't mind but I'm worried about new people. It's not fun getting stomped immediately after trying the game for the first time
When I was new I got stomped immediately by not good players Bc I didn’t know what I was doing at all.
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Yup devs please up the Bloodpoints cap
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@Seanzu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/354714#Comment_354714
Doesn't matter, these people demand free stuff because the game has bugs, as common folk (players) we must batten down the hatches and work together to be stinger & more beggar like. /s
If you want a skin, earn it or buy it. You can even get more of the DLC through play time now, if that isn't enough then you REALLY should find something else to play, honestly.
Yeah I know, the problem is the price though, which is understandable. Which I actually have a solution for.
so if they cut their outfits down to $5 instead of $10 that’s 2 outfits for the price of what 1 was. People like deals studies show that. So if I can get 2 for $10 that means I can get $20 for 4 which is awesome. Now instead of just buying 1 outfit for $10 and feeling robbed and over charged I just spent $20 for 4 Bc what a deal! Marketing 101. People are more likely to buy things that feel like a deal.
So instead of a small percentage spending money, you now have a much larger consumer percentage. When that number increases you sell more all for the thrill of a deal. Also considering cosmetics are digital and coded in there is no financial loss for manufacturing, only gains Bc you've grown your consumer base. They’ll be more likely to spend more to get more, and more likely to repeat. Right now most people just get the outfit they like for the characters they like Bc priority due to pricing. Or they won’t buy at all due to pricing.
They could also also throw in a free outfit of two to promote the higher priced packages.
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I mean since the cosmetics they’ve started pumping out more dlcs, updating the engine, and are getting dedicated servers. Coincidence? I think not.
i agree though they are a tad pricey when they first drop, I think they could double their income by dropping outfits to $5 a piece.
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As a survivor main, no. It’s needless.
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Yeah it would be too strong. Agree with the above^
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i haven’t been able to test it yet since I’m on ps4, but I think the new system will be better. That way if you get to red ranks you have actually good killers, and good survivors. Which is how it should be. You’ll stay in low ranks if you don’t play to pip. It will also engage survivors to do more than just gen rush and interact with the killer. You’ll pip naturally with good killers I think.
Either way you won’t be able to swf your way to the top and stay there without friends unless you’re actually good.
I say test it for a few months, tweak if necessary. I like their train of thought on where they are going with it though.
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I was wondering this myself
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i made a thread before that said they should remove hatch Bc it works most against survivors than for them. Due to team work falling apart most times for no reason. They get lazy Bc they know hatch is there.
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@Evp said:
I hate hatch stand offs, it ruins the fun of the game. What I hate about the hatch is when me and another survivor are left and the other survivor just gives up, hides, and waits for me to be found and die.
Yes, I will continue to do gens even if I know the other person is hiding and waiting me out.
But I agree with you. The "get out of jail free" card does not seem to be worth the issues it causes.
You are me, so I agree