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@Boss said:
So do we now assume DS 24/7?
yep :)
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@xEzekanarioX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2161344#Comment_2161344
Someone on the internet who i dont know and im not gonna see in my life called me homophobic. Im crying right now believe me or not. Im unistalling fortnite.
i really wasn't aiming to make you cry- apologies. i'll try and be nicer in future, but it's difficult when youre a bigot :karutcDonkerydoo:
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@Drixpy_Jayyy said:
Im just trying to figure out why does everyone want a specific gender for a killer or survivor it shouldn't matter if a character is just a male or female and not lgbt related I mean its just a game. Idk why people want to get deep down into the killer/survivor lore. Im not saying im for or against people who support lgbt because I respect people regardless of their gender so dont think that this is an attack its just a question. Maybe the devs could put out cosmetics that represent that particular community so that those who support it can be happy i guess idk. Even though Im straight this is just something I wanted to know so again dont think im attacking people.
you just admitted you don't care about the lore, so naturally you won't care.
for people who care about the lore, they do care, and have for a while. however these topics happen like once or twice a year, starting up the next Great Forum Representation Wars.
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@Satelit said:
Why is this even a debate? There's no valid argument against adding someone LGBT.
bUt It DoEsNt FiT dBd So CrInGe ItS pAnDeRiNg
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@xEzekanarioX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2161295#Comment_2161295
So you like to kill babies?
See? What i said has absolutely no sense. You dont know the context behind that, so please talk with your virtual girlfriend, and get away from stuff that is not your business. Good day
virtual girlfriend
Okay which part of me saying that I had a boyfriend earlier wasn't clear?
So you like to kill babies? See? What i said has absolutely no sense.
No, not particularly. That holds no relevance to the current conversation, however. As you admitted.
Difference being, what I said does have relevance to the conversation, as you were calling the inclusion of lgbtq+ characters "a mistake". Which, ngl, kinda textbook homophobia.
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@CluelessWanderer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2161243#Comment_2161243
I didn't call YOU cringe. I said these topics sometimes make me cringe.
But you want the truth? I find people get overly hostile in these convos. And that's the problem. If anyone pushes back, or God forbid, questions the Rainbow they get inundated with accusations and venom. And yeah, it makes me cringe because I feel people should be able to speak freely without a woke mob coming for them.
I know I'm a bad Gay who indulged in wrong think, so I'll just sit back and wait for the bombardment of outrage.
But you want the truth? I find people get overly hostile in these convos. And that's the problem. If anyone pushes back, or God forbid, questions the Rainbow they get inundated with accusations and venom. And yeah, it makes me cringe because I feel people should be able to speak freely without a woke mob coming for them.
I just want to ask- what arguments do you have against adding lgbtq+ representation into DBD, or media in general? Are there any arguments against it, or do you just not like it through some gut feeling?
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@xEzekanarioX said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2161229#Comment_2161229
Sorry, not wasting my time with you.
As so it was homophobic okay bestie
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@Bard said:
I'd imagine something like this.
Trickster, what is your sexual orientation?
"Knife."
No, who do you like?
"Victims."
No, like what turns you on?
"Screaming."
We stan that asexual rep
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@Lunarknight said:
Imagine caring about a fictional characters sexual preference
Imagine caring about what other people care about
Don't you have something to do. That, you know, you actually care about?
Or is it that you do care and like most others you try and use a mask of indifference to hide your distaste for the idea?
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@CluelessWanderer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2161193#Comment_2161193
My opinion isn't an attack on you. Anyways, much like most people, I'm just gonna back away from this now. It's not worth it.
Don't come into a discussion, call the people discussing it cringe, then back away when people don't like being called cringe??
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@Bangarang said:
Don’t mind me, I’m just noting down the names of people making homophobic / transphobic remarks so I know who to ghost on this forum.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/AI9DQJ7ZQ45N/b87a5b2b-7862-4f75-92ab-3d4c20d0de2d.gif
Bestie same
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@xEzekanarioX said:
No bhvr. You make too many mistakes but dont fall for this one. Just please
How is having lgbtq+ characters or relationships in dbd a "mistake"?
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@CluelessWanderer said:
As a gay person myself, whenever these topics come up I just cringe and want to crawl under a rock and hide.
Gay people get hooked and die the same way as straight people. A gay sociopathic killer is just as murder-y. I couldn't care less to have "representation" in the pool of people running for their lives from a chainsaw wielding freak.
I'm so sick of the militant push by a small minority of people to shove to rainbow into everything lol.
im glad it doesnt matter to you.
to some people, it's incredibly important.
it couldve easily helped me through the absolute darkest time of my life.
representation is important to some people and placing it as "unimportant" and "cringe" is just... it's not really it, chief, no offence.
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@WexlerWendigo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2161116#Comment_2161116
June is the resident evil dlc though :/ we’ll have to wait a while for anything more than the upcoming gay charm
it could be in a rift who knows
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@RoboMojo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2161090#Comment_2161090
I’m glad we’re in agreement then! Here’s hoping they stick to their word and do something soon. Although now that Pride month is soon on the horizon, they may just wait to give rep then. It would be kind of insulting I imagine that it took them a year to do it but hey, it came eventually right? Considering how slow Behaviour are at literally everything, it may not have been a personal slight against the lgbt community, or at least I hope it wasn’t.
i dont think its a personal slight, as we know chapters and lore is planned 6-18 months in advance so it could be they were in the planning stages when they released the statement
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@RoboMojo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/247177/lgbtq-survivor-killer-when
I kinda feel like they’re putting it off as much as possible to be honest. Literally all it would take is a simple throw away comment in the character’s lore that states that the dude had/has a boyfriend or that the lady had/has a girlfriend. I think most people would be quite happy with that but they haven’t done anything for some reason. Some people may be upset that they didn’t get a super flamboyant character but personally, I think that if anything, the first openly gay character being super flamboyant would be kinda homophobic. I’m not trying to speak for anyone here, I’m literally just a straight dude with minimal knowledge on all this stuff but I think just having the average joe or jill be gay would be better. Which makes the complete lack of any rep thus far kinda jarring considering how easy it would be.
congrats mr. straight dude you want what we want too, or most of us. subtle hints instead of full blown W O W T H A T ' S G A Y
which, as you said, it's easy. a single pronoun change.
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@Zixology said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2161049#Comment_2161049
That's not true?
This game is about sex now??
They actually listened on Twitter and added sex to DBD?
That's not true?
David has an ex-girlfriend. Felix has a girlfriend and is expecting a child. Nurse has a husband- Andrew, who's pretty integral to her lore. Frank and Julie, well... the less said about that Tome the better.
Heterosexual relationships exist in DBD lore and have done since The Last Breath chapter released in August 2016.
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@Awakey said:
Not this again.
I'm just going to leave my opinion here, and honestly if I get in trouble for it, I don't give #########. ATP it would just be suppression of my freedom of speech.
I have no issue with a character being gay or bi or lesbian. While I feel it to be unnecessary and "catering" (one could say), I can swallow my pride for that and suck it up
However, as a conservative and a proud believer of science I don't believe a trans character aligns with my beliefs about biology. I (and many others I know) wouldn't appreciate having one in the game. That's putting it lightly.
Any replies to this comment need to be directed to my wall. I enjoy discussion.
i really don't mean to be rude here but, uh...
yikes.
that's all i can really say to that. yikes.
no offence, but, yikes.
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@Moundshroud said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160990#Comment_2160990
And I think that is where the BEhavior (the DEV) are headed so shortly this can be a non-issue. Some nagging part of me thinks that you and I, being rather moderate overall, will both be kind of surprised (and annoyed) when it doesn't become a non-issue once they do address it and throw that representation in. That cynical side of me can't help but feel (based on past experiences) that the issue will simply balloon more each time it gets addressed. Knock on wood, I hope that isn't the case. I'd like to be happily surprised. Time will tell.
I'd like it to just end good too. No song or dance. No marketing that they're gay. Literally just a couple of lines in their lore, like with David or Felix, maybe Nurse level where their SO plays a part but isn't the focus of their story. That's all most people want when they ask for representation and it shouldn't take anything away from the balancing.
Pressuring people leads to poorer quality, that's true, but it also shows that people still want it. The longer BHVR take to deliver the higher the expectations get until anything but perfect would be unacceptable to a lot and that's really not what I want to see happen.
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@Moundshroud said:
I don't have the time or patience to catch up the two hundred or so posts that have happened since I first weighed in on this topic. I stated at the start that I prefer the sexual preferences of the various Killers and Survivors to be left blank so anyone and everyone can fill in the blanks as they see fit. It doesn't seem particularly relevant to the game or even the Lore for that matter. The entity doesn't care about sexual preference, nor do the Killers. If anything a pretty good number of both roles are asexual, i.e. their sexual identity is less important to them than what kind of coffee they drink. Consider Jake, a guy so anti-social he dropped off the map and went into the wild solo in the Lore. Clearly sexuality is not his top priority. Myers is a human body inhabited by pure evil that simply kills for its own unknowable reasons, and sexuality doesn't come into it. Over and over again in the Lore we see the subject skirted because most of these people are driven by other things near and dear to them. Do you see the point I'm making? I think this was a wise choice on the part of BEhavior originally, and I wish they had never veered at all because we wouldn't even be having this conversation otherwise. What is more, they barely veered at all.
I want to stress that I think bigots are the lowest form of human life. I think our individual value should be determined by fiat, ourselves alone. The demons of external validation are always a work, and we would all do better to immunize ourselves against them. It is because I think personal preferences are just that.... PERSONAL... that I prefer those fill in the blanks on our fictional people. I think it being fill in the blank illustrates better that things like ethnicity, sexual preference, religion, etc. are not an appropriate way to judge people. Left as blanks, it means they are taken out of the equation entirely and shown to be false measures. People are who they are and none of us should care nor be chiming in. Sadly, this has now become another issue and the blanks are going to get filled in. Many of you are too young to remember when the movie Basic Instinct was released. I am using it for my next example because it is about a Killer. It was a smart, edgy movie that illustrated that there are sociopaths out there. What was innovative for the film was that the Killer was not only a woman, she was also Bisexual (or a Lesbian). Her sexuality wasn't the cause of her dark behavior; it was the least important thing about her.... and yet....
There was a HUGE explosion of unhappy people who stated how offended they were that the Killer was Bisexual/Lesbian because it implied that all such people are deviant sociopaths. The movie didn't say this of course, but that was the rallying cry. Do you see where I'm going with this? So let's fast forward back to Dead by Daylight. If we are going to fill in the blanks now, and make sexual preferences a more important part of the Lore, how much representation will be required? I'm not asking that to be an ass; it is an important question. If they just throw in one Survivor and one Killer from under the LGBQT umbrella... won't that just be tokenism? Which types that fall under that umbrella will be represented? Or will we need a Killer and Survivor of each? We can't just have Killers of each because that would imply that everyone under the LGBQT umbrella is a murdering psycho. Do you see why I think this is one big can of worms. There is no win scenario here, only a furthering of our own group focus on something that is largely personal.
I want to comment on something personal now, which I don't generally do. I am a strong believer that personal preferences are... well... PERSONAL. I don't think any of you really care what I desire, believe, or want out of life. You have enough to do with your own goals and ambitions. Even so, I'm going to make this one time exception to talk about something personal because I think it pertains to this issue. I am not a Christian; I am a Pagan. You wouldn't know it by looking at me. Nothing about how I act or dress would imply it. I'm just your average, everyday person going about his business in the world. To know that my religious beliefs are part of a minority, you would have to ask. But here is the rub, I'm not hiding in the so-called "broom closet" or any such nonsense. I just don't feel the need to put my personal beliefs on display. I don't begrudge others their desire to be louder, but I personally just don't see the point. I'm not asking for representation among the Survivors, the Killers, or demanding the entity be defined in some sort of religious context that validates my own cosmology. Do you see where I'm going with this? If I want (and choose) I can easily apply my beliefs to the blanks that the various fictional characters provide. Because these things are not addressed, I can assume whatever I want. Ironically enough, I assume most people who know me in real life apply such assumptions to me and it is no skin off my nose.
A lot of people have chimed in on this subject, and it quickly became heated. That is unfortunate. While I understand that a lot of people don't feel represented, I have to ask how it can be done that you won't feel it is just a token? How much will be enough? Will we all agree when we can't agree on anything. Will the time and labor it takes to fill in the blanks here be well spent when it will be contending with the time and labor the DEV could be spending on addressing all those annoying bugs, exploits, optimization, balance, and so on that we constantly scream about? I'm asking these questions because they need to be asked. What will we be gaining (if anything) and what will we be giving up to gain it? I want to end on a less serious note, what does Nea secretly being the Entity say about this whole debate?
I don't wanna go and respond to all of this because it's pretty well written but also pretty long so I'll vibe with this one section.
"I have to ask how it can be done that you won't feel it is just a token? How much will be enough?"
In my opinion, not much has to be done. Take David King's lore for example, a place where a heterosexual relationship can be found. "He can't go to his ex, she doesn't want to see his face" or something along those lines. All they'd have to do is change "She" to "He". It's not a big deal. It's a throwaway line showing how alone he is. But we're it he, it'd also be a representation of a homosexual relationship in the lore.
And that's all we really want, from speaking to people. Or, most of us anyway. Equal status with heterosexual characters and relationships, even if there isn't as much. Just changing one simple pronoun.
NB people could easily be represented just by using they/them pronouns. Trans people is a topic I don't feel educated well enough on to discuss so I'll leave it to actual transgender people to talk about how best to represent them.
It's nothing major that has to be done, just a single pronoun change can make a world of difference.
We wouldn't lose out on any Bugfixes because the lore team and development team are seperate. There's no opportunity cost here to having a character use they/them or date someone of the same gender in a one-off line in terms of game development.
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@miketheratguy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160860#Comment_2160860
Aside from the person who briefly appeared and blatantly denied an interest in having LGBT people in the game, who else is calling for their exclusion? Who are the people that are persecuting you? Who here has said "No, I absolutely would quit playing this game if there were gay people in it"?
And yes, as long as someone takes a shaming or otherwise aggressive stance about something I may happen to otherwise agree with, there will always be a "but". I can agree with the end result of what you want without agreeing with the way that you're going about it.
I will say in support of Mooks and Orion that the mods watch these threads like a Hawk (speaking from personal experience here lol) and they're incredibly quick on the draw. All power to them, homophobia/biphobia/transphobic shouldn't ever be tolerated. But by now a lot of bigoted people have learned their lesson and just stay quiet, or come with the argument of "It doesn't belong in the game." There's always, always, always a but, which is why I was so hostile to you at the start because from my own experience I was waiting for the "I don't care about it but I don't think it belongs in DBD and I'd quit if it were introduced."
I've seen it too many times, so sorry for thinking you'd be the same lol.
I think me, you, Mook, and Orion are all arguing for the same thing, though, just in different ways. Lgbtq+ representation done right to give us equal status to heterosexual relationships and characters. Do correct me if I'm wrong but I think we all want the same thing here.
So, yeah, while you may not see them in this thread, believe me when I say there are plenty.
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@miketheratguy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160818#Comment_2160818
As far as I was concerned we did, I simply tried to help Orion understand that a user wasn't trying to specifically attack LGBT qualities as a negative thing but he or she seems to want to fight about the subject so we keep spinning our wheels. You've been fine, I have no issue with you. As for me, nothing I've said is new. I just keep getting mocked for it. Not only has my tolerance and integrity been questioned, so now is my ethnicity and sexuality up for criticism.
OK good I was getting worried
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@miketheratguy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160796#Comment_2160796
The term "identity politics" means to use what makes oneself unique - be it race, sexuality, whatever - to shame others into forced "tolerance". These things can happen organically, or they can happen because people demand them and call people who don't agree bigots. Or homophobes. Or cis, white, heterosexual men.
I've said about 30 times in this thread that I'm completely open to any character of any sexuality or ethnicity being in this game. I've also pointed out that what I disagree with is the aggressive insistence that if it doesn't happen, it's somehow a form of persecution. That, again, is playing identity politics.
I've also noticed that this is now the second time my own color, sexuality or personal philosophies have been insulted despite the fact that I've done no such thing to anyone else here for theirs. Some of you are a little too defensive about this.
I thought we'd made up 😭😭
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@Itooshie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160740#Comment_2160740
It is, high recommend.
I agree with the diverse representation, but I think I still think it's unrealistic to consider monsters and entities as representation that's all. But if you can feel represented by demons and monsters more power to you.
I did just have a look into the monsters we are getting though.
The Birch storyline is written by an LGBT person but the actual person that becomes The Birch has no confirmed identity although, they were a female that had a boyfriend prior to transformation.
The Mordeo are a species similar to the wendigo so there isn't really a set identity as they are a species of creatures. But there are three people in the series that transformed into a Mordeo, two girls and a male.
The male has no backstory, one girl is a teen with no confirmation on lgbt they are a teen as well. The second girl was a bride to be and it doesn't state if it was hetero or homosexual wedding.
And The LookSee is a demon whom comes to those that have difficulty overcoming grief. I'm not sure where it being Pan comes into anything really. It doesn't seem like a major plot point at all?
That's the thing, though. It isnt a major plotpoint. It isnt focused on heavily and no big deal is made of it.
To quote, "Our monsters are gay and I DO make the rules."
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Oh my god.
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@Hoodied said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160763#Comment_2160763
Not as much as the old thread that never dies that died, I miss that thread
Ah the 15 page one during the ThirdGreatWar™.
I can't remember the First or Second very well so idk if it went higher
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@Hoodied said:
Oh boy this could go raw really fast
It already has we're 9 pages in
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@Marigoria said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160735#Comment_2160735
Just did a fast google search and the only thing that came up for me was the most recent tweet they made when someone asked about it related to DBD, everything else was random tumblr posts.
I'd like to see those intro videos and SFC
SFC:
A decades dormant CULT is coming back to LIFE. Seemingly sweet midwestern 16-year-old Taylor is tabbed as the face of the movement, climbing her way to power...A bunch of other monsters:
Need an introduction to Crypt TV? Watch these killer CRYPT MONSTERS in action.YouTube has apparently thanosed the playlist I had for the intro videos because the link no longer works but you could maybe (?) find it in the videos too? I can't say I remember them all
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160735#Comment_2160735
Is the series any good?
I've not really heard of it before and it looks a little cheesy to me, but I admittedly haven't watched it.
Yeah SFC is pretty good. Look-See is amazing. Birch S2 I can't talk about because Facebook hates me but S1 was pretty good. Mordeo I haven't seen
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@Marigoria said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160728#Comment_2160728
Do the characters have any lore? As in, outside of the videos that people can read?
Through stalking the Twitter you can find some out, there's introduction videos that explains thingd too on their website, SFC literally shows some as lgbtq+, and the creators will still be trans/queer no matter what
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160701#Comment_2160701
I don’t think the CryptTV chars should be the only representation, I just think it’s noteworthy that they (or as I assume the people they were before they got to be monsters) were LGBTQ+.
i think the best kind of representation is diverse representation, so have killers, monsters, non-stereotypical, stereotypical representation. All of it. Don’t exclude any topic just for exclusions sake. And don’t use LGBTQ+ as advertisement or political agenda. Just let it be a ‚trait’ that any one can have
This.
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@Marigoria said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160678#Comment_2160678
This. I dont remember CryptTV mentioning monsters' gender/sexuality before this DBD collab. Kinda looks like what JK Rowling did, years after the books and movies, she started saying x and y were lgbt and whatever else just because she wanted to be woke.
They've said Look-See is pan for a while, characters in Sunny Family Cult are lgbtq+, and The Birch is still made by a trans woman no matter what the Birch themselves is. Moedeo I don't know much about though I will admit.
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@GhostMaceNotCrusty said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160042#Comment_2160042
You can increase the cap to 120 through the game files although I forgot where
You can go up to 144 iirc, in the GameUserSettings.ini file
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@Sleem said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2159974#Comment_2159974
Having an fps unlocker would be great, or at the very least, v-sync so our monitors can get the fps we deserve.
Isn't v-sync enabled by default?
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160677#Comment_2160677
I correction needed at all. That’s exactly what I was trying to say.
Words can be difficult
God I know I hate words. They never say what you want to mean
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@Itooshie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160659#Comment_2160659
This. No. Tokenism. No Stereotypes. This is the perfect way to introduce the LGBT character.
Leave the stereotypes for the skins if we must have them
Oh, I agree with you. No tokenism/stereotypes. I'm nowhere near a stereotypical gay with the exception of this one hand movement I do when I sit while interested in something. I'd hate for the only representation to be like, the true stereotype pink hair handbag makeup "YASS ######### GO 💅💅💅💅💅". Are there people like that? Yes. Do I want my only representation to be that? No.
What I was trying to get at is if they were to make a stereotypical character, at least they wouldn't be the token one, which I think is what Mooks was trying to get at (but I don't speak for them to correct me if I'm wrong).
And seeing how they've done things with het relationships except Frank/Julie, I have faith in them not to do that.
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@Itooshie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160558#Comment_2160558
That feels like a really big cop out if you ask me.
I'm not sure why but you saying that beings from CryptTV are fair representation, really offends me? They are monsters, not people. Or can we slap a label on anything now and call it representation? Not to mention these are skins and not a character of BHVRs own design.
I just believe that using a stereotypical flamboyant gay is not the way to go when introducing their first lgbt survivor/killer. Aswell as just against stereotypes of lgbt in general. Personally, if I'm honest, I'm against the flamboyant gay stereotype because thats the harassment I have faced as a member of LGBT even though I'm not as flamboyant as some others, Im often assumed such and harassed because of it.😕🙃
I think what Mooks is getting at is, because of the CryptTV characters, nobody could now call them a token character even if they were stereotypical. Token characters exist to check boxes and usually there's only one- we're getting 3 in one swoop today.
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@PigMainBigBrain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160625#Comment_2160625
Still trying to figure out, how people draw the conclusion that he's
A. Homophobic
B. Straight (we only know of 1 ex that mother ######### could have a huge list from multiple sexes)
C. Russian
Or any other random made up ######### I see people on these forums throwing out randomly.
Its literally 1 line out of an entire chapter of a book, which should say enough.....it doesn't matter. His sexuality isn't what makes up his character, its not what defines you. He was rich....did a lot of hood #########, got into a lot of fights, and was pretty much abandoned by most of the people in his life including his so called "friends" <--- thats the lore....thats what matters. Not where he sticks his diddle or if he even has one, not his race, not his country of origin either. Its a horror game ffs not a dating simulator. If they wanted 1 dimensional characters they could have just skipped the lore entirely and given people a character creator with a bunch of random preset faces.
And that's all lgbtq+ people want too. A single, throwaway, one line in the lore to show "HEY THIS IS A GAY RELATIONSHIP" or "HEY THIS CHARACTER IS TRANS" without making their entire lore about being gay/trans. It's there if you look for it but not if you don't.
That's what we want, equal treatment.
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@PigMainBigBrain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160051#Comment_2160051
This never happened either.....where the hell are you guys getting these bullshit fanfics?
The girlfriend did happen.
The homophobic bit... Let's just say that a bit of the fandom for some reason see him as an r-word-ist and absolutely hate him, and AO3 absolutely loves that.
For some ungodly, unknown, disgusting reason.
But yeah NotTheBasement (on Tumblr) got it confirmed by a dev that David is, in fact, not an r-word-ist.
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Go for it (in 150 seconds when your jail timer is over).
Just know that if you get banned, it'll be for a good reason. Homophobia, nor any kind of discrimination, is tolerated on these forums and the mods are incredibly strict about that.
If not feel free to find me on Twitter or something, I've argued with enough bigots on there already this week so what's one more?
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160487#Comment_2160487
But I don't like anyoneeeeeee
Yet.
Unless you're ace/aro in which case I take that back
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160446#Comment_2160446
Oooo, see now that does change things.
Not that I've ever been asked out or asked anyone out XD
No time like the present
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@gibblywibblywoo said:
I don't think the survivors sexuality really matters, personally. I don't care if we get an LGBT survivor as long as the backstory is good and their design is cool. I'm a live and let live guy.
But I can understand why its wanted. It's nice to be represented and I've noticed games like F13 and DBd tend to have an unusually high % of LGBT players in their communities. You'll get people that complain and call it pandering regardless, unfortunately. Or even worse "political" because apparently not being straight is political... somehow...
ALso, speaking as a comfortably straight dude, isn't it funny how people will kick up a fuss at the idea of a gay character or any lgbt "romance" but are fine with Nurse's backstory of being happily married. Never saw anyone complain about that or call it forced or "not fitting in the game".
Okay so not to sound gay but I love you, uh-
(no romo)
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160321#Comment_2160321
My philosophy has always been pretty simple. I've screwed up enough times that I've no room to judge anyone else, even if my religion says its wrong.
Besides, considering how much ######### gets thrown at the LGBTQ community, I've just got to support and love them all the more, to make up for it :)
If one of my buddies said they asked someone out, I may not scream per say, but I would be very excited and happy for them.
Nah not asked someone out, got asked out. There's a massive difference and it makes it 50x more exciting (for me anyway) :D
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@Freddo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160027#Comment_2160027
You wanna show a source for that info?
I gotchu
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@HollowsGrief said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160375#Comment_2160375
You did miss the mark but this conversation has divulged into something totally different so I'll just end it here.
Aight, have a good day :)
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@Itooshie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160376#Comment_2160376
Shes a queen, duh, isnt that the Q in LGBTQ+? 👑💅💅💅
I-
yeah, actually, that's valid
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160360#Comment_2160360
No. People only speculated she might be trans because of the colors used in the Twitter marketing Build-up.
actually, nothing about Yun’s sexual orientation or identity is known other than she is being referred to as she/her. I think.
It doesn't help that LeaksByDaylight queerbaited the community with their made-up """leaks"""
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@Northener1907 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2160364#Comment_2160364
I knew her trans, my fault then.
She's not confirmed lgbtq+. Not gay, bi, pan, trans, etc. We don't know what she is.