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  • @lassfroobynoo said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165439#Comment_2165439

    SWFs can count to 5 together lol they don't need the counter, and if I was in a SWF I would run 4 meta perks and bring a map if I was really going to find totems. SWFs can coordinate without the use of these info perks, that's the whole point of SWF. You can coordinate your team to search for key totems (like when NOED pops) because you realistically don't need to cleanse all 5 totems every game. This buff was almost specifically for solo survivors who are used to getting NOED camped and want to ensure they can stop the perk from activating themselves. SWFs definitely don't need this perk especially now that it doesn't detect traps

    3man swf 1 solo.

    "This buff was almost specifically for solo survivors who are used to getting NOED camped and want to ensure they can stop the perk from activating themselves. SWFs definitely don't need this perk especially now that it doesn't detect traps"

    Well like you said, swf get this information for free without needing to use perks. Solos shouldn't have to use perks items or addons for information SWF get for free. So it wasn't a buff. Not in the slightest, it was a bandaid that everyone is going to point to when it fixes none of the issues.

    It's the worst bandaid fix I think I've ever seen because it's like trying to use a bandage to reattach a missing limb.

  • @Hoodied said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165439#Comment_2165439

    Interesting, then again it should have never been buffed like this, should've just given us a totem counter then revamped small game

    Hardcore agree

    But n stick key Info on a perk and then wonder why solos are weak while swf are dominant okay bhvr

  • @Hoodied said:

    Weak bait

    It's not bait imo ots genuinely so much better in swf than solos.


    And then bhvr are like "we hope solos will enjoy this perk" besties you've just buffed swf even more wdum x

  • unless they changed it from the ptb there is literally not a sun in sight and so it cannot be daylight??? because daylight happens during the day which is when the sun is in the sky??!?

  • @Bangarang said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165270#Comment_2165270

    Ahh I didn’t remember the thread clearly enough so I didn’t realise it was in regards to not using headphones.

    I fake scratch marks a lot. I often pretend I’m in a locker when I’ve just walked past. When I play killer, I normally use sound and visual cues to locate survivors as I find scratch marks to be too unreliable.

    I’ll unlock Stridor on her and see how I feel but I can’t see me becoming a Spirit main any time soon. I’d miss Clowns big belly too much. 🤡

    If you like kills, then uh... Yeah, with stridor she's the killer for you.

    If you like, ya know, actually putting in effort then either don't use stridor or stick to someone else lol

  • @Bangarang said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2165200#Comment_2165200

    I’m pretty sure I saw @GoodBoyKaru mention it recently in a thread about best Spirit builds so maybe I should give it a go? 🤔

    That I did, but keep in mind that post said without headphones. So in other words, where Stridor would be null and void.

    Predator is nice in that scratch marks basically become a red line to victory but suffers from two major drawbacks: faking scratch marks is easier than faking sound, and it's still inaccurate as ######### about 40% of the time.

    Predator is good as a second option but I'd still say Stridor just because it takes all of her lovely (read: incredibly limited) counterplay only available in the form of perks, and shits on it, before some serious defenstation occurs.

  • hey have you heard of the concept of daybreak?

    image.png

    where it's not actually daylight yet it's just very, very close?

  • @Marigoria said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2164849#Comment_2164849

    If you’d read all the other threads, you’d see it is inconsistent and it censures randomly. Is everyone else in the forums, Reddit etc lying then?

    Hi please refer to the many many other posts from other members including myself where its made clear that the more you curse the harsher the filter is. Or are we all just lying across the forums, twitter, Reddit, etc?

  • @Marigoria said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2164841#Comment_2164841

    The Truth is that names shouldn’t be censured but they are :)

    Interesting cause I've managed to say all of them

  • @supersonic853 said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2164447#Comment_2164447

    To be fair...old ruin? Old lullaby (thank you almo sorry you couldn't hit snap out of it skillchecks). Old billy kinda. Freddy in some ways since a good team would still dominate freddy. Theres a pretty big track record. Not all changes but a noteable few.

    (Proof for old lullaby)

    https://youtu.be/g28KozjF0AI

    1:40.

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/ON7E2725BIIF/tumblr-inline-pt0pdkd2i41rltzh8-500-281-29.png

    New ruin is unironically stronger than old ruin.

    Lullaby... Yeah that one I don't have a reasoning for.

    Billy... Yeah that one neither.

    Freddy got his well-deserved nerf. I wish they'd go one further and re-rework him.

    Almo was also iirc in charge of the Doctor change, and Legion one. You can argue about Legion all you like but Doctor 100% got stronger. And again, Spirit remains completely unnerfed.

    It's not as biased as it looks and the balance team do make changes for both sides.

    (this statement is more directed to the whole community)

  • @Marigoria said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2164762#Comment_2164762

    When I am 27, yes I can blame them by treating the older players like they're children.

    I'm glad you're 27 and responsible. When the majority of the community (on steam at least) still think its acceptable to call people the f-slur, n-slur, t-slur, and love to tell people to go commit die in far less eloquent ways, its unfortunate for you but they're treating the community as the majority act.

    Like petulent children.

  • @Marigoria said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2164719#Comment_2164719

    I agree. It's really obnoxious on how in a game that is 16+ and is about killing people, with gore and even swear words in game, we get treated like we're all 12.

    with how this community acts almost all the time can you blame them for treating us like we're 12?

  • I'm going to smite half of these forums one day I swear t-

  • @Mooks said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2164568#Comment_2164568

    go play RuneScape then. I don’t think there would be many people sad about that.

    image0-3.jpg

    Oml...

  • @Lord_Tony said:

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/O1SKGB7GIDKL/survivor-names.png

    more than half the survivor names are censored. Nice filter we got here, if only it was optional so I can say survivor names without the censorship

    I'm pretty sure that it gets worse the more your swear cause I've been able to say all of them :)

  • @Lord_Tony said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2164538#Comment_2164538

    I want it off on my screen.

    I'm not saying to remove it for everyone.

    Why is it not OPTIONAL?

    allow me to paraphrase @MandyTalk

    they want as much feedback as possible to make it a lot less severe, so it's mandatory for everyone. if enough people ask for it later they'll look into it being optional instead, however with the amount of racist, homophobic remarks that get said in endgame chat i, right now, am perfectly happy not being told to "######### you stupid ######### #########" every three games.

  • image.png

    I have absolutely no idea why you'd want the chat filter off.

    None at all.

  • @Moundshroud said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2164488#Comment_2164488

    Normalize it? No. There is no way to perfectly balance the potential information of Comms, but a 5th Perk Slot on Killers is a serious Force Multiplier. The combinations now possible would certainly grant a hard to measure competitive edge, just like Comms itself.

    I'm not sure I understand that last question. Did you mean to say, how would I counter the disadvantage a Stealth Killer faces with one additional Perk? I hope that was your meaning, and I'll proceed for now as if it is so.

    1. Stealth Killers are actually less disadvantaged against SWF than other Killers. Remember that a SWF's primary advantage is passing information. Stealth Killers are harder to pinpoint and thus get their information shared. I am far more effective against a SWF playing slow Spooky Myers (Scratched Mirror + Boyfriend's Memo) than I am playing faster, terrifying Maniac Myers builds which are full speed. *Being Undetectable with no Red Stain and no Terror Radius makes it much harder to triangulate my position. They literally have to see me and can't just use the Terror Radius and each other to bird dog me. Does this make sense?
    2. One Build I would do for my Spooky Myers, if I had the extra slot is: Agitation, Star-Struck, Mad Grit, Iron Grasp, and Corrupt Intervention. I expect I would have most of them slugged before Corrupt ended.
    3. It doesn't sound like much but one additional Perk is huge.

    Consider the implications of stacking multiple regression Perks up, all the good ones. There are just too many combinations now possible to fully relate. Like Comms itself, the potential is huge, but it isn't automatically OP. The Killer still has to make USE of the potential, and like some SWF it could be squandered.

    Like Comms itself, the potential is huge,

    Brutal/Bamboozle/Fire Up/Enduring/Spirit Fury Nurse.

    I want your idea implemented just so I can use that build

  • @TicTac said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2164330#Comment_2164330

    So Pings or voice commands would be the perfect solution?

    Not who you quoted but I think a ping system would be better for a couple of reasons:

    -Gets around the language barrier

    -Can be easier to mute or ignore

    -Can include solos with the SWF

    -Can't call people slurs with pre-designed messages

    -Would be more accessible to people without a (good) mic.

  • @EntitySpawn said:

    Twins beat bad players, devs balance for bad players, meaning nerf twins so bad survivors can win. I mean its pretty obvious, when bad survivors complain about certain killers they get nerfed. Look at freddy for example, everyone calls it forever freddy not realising his addons only hit a very small % I think its 5% at max, that's like injure with thana... that's not why freddy is strong. But twins Will be just another killer I wont play at rank 1 sadly. Oh well less killers for survivors to verse I guess...

    yeah that's why spirit hasn't been nerfed! like, at all. except for one time where she lost her most bullshit add-on and collision in phase.

    because the devs only listen to bad survivors!

    ...yeah

  • @DeathByGiggles said:

    Hey everyone! ❤️

    Thanks for leaving us your feedback. We've been reading your comments both here and on our social media channels all day. It's been great seeing so many of you voice your thoughts and concerns!

    As always, we'll be passing your feedback - both positive and critical - along to the team, and we'll continue monitoring all of these changes throughout the update, as well. If we have anything new to announce, we'll be sure to let you guys know via our official channels. ❤️

    Thanks again for being such an active community, and hope you all have an awesome day! 😊

    You are proof that a tiny bit of communication goes a long way.

  • @Lord_Tony said:

    by the way I never said the killer would hear their voice.

    It would be only hearable through the survivor's end"

    what do you think I want to listen to a survivor scream in the ######### mic all day as killer?

    You seem to do enough screaming as is so idk what difference it'd make tbf

  • @HollowsGrief said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2163917#Comment_2163917

    Why give people a way to continue hook suicides? How is it any different than a d/c, except only survivors can exit the match early?

    I'm pretty sure the point of the change wasn't to address hook suiciidng but to prevent people with serious wrist injuries from making it worse (hey) by playing their game. Some people physically couldn't play survivor due to this mechanic.

  • @Lx_malice said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2163476#Comment_2163476

    Ha that's right we actually had a conversation on this before. I remember with @Orion as well. Not sure if you remember. Iirc his favorite was Emerald. Also I love your pokemons' names lol.

    thanks, young me will be pleased

  • @DoritoHead said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2163362#Comment_2163362

    Yes, I meant Julie.

    I meant you'd have to swerve your camera because it reveals auras ONLY, and not killer instinct. That would waste time since you only have 12 seconds in Silent Frenzy.

    oh- i thought you meant when changing killers lmao

    yeah the point of SF is to be a whole lot stealthier, but having constant location when youre undetectable seemed kinda-not-ok imo so i forced convinced turbo to change it

  • @MadLordJack said:

    Sounds great. I'll almost never switch Legion members mid trial, but it'd be cool to see.

    i mean, yeah, at worst it's just 3 new characters who happen to share add-ons lol

  • @Lx_malice said:

    Ayo so I got a few questions for you guys:

    What's your favorite Pokemon?

    Which game(s) and/or gen is your favorite?

    What's your favorite battle theme?

    What would your dream team look like?

    What was your first Pokemon game you owned and/or played?

    My favorite pokemon is Vaporeon personally because I think they're adorable and they have some really good Special attack and sp. defence stats and they have quite a lot of Hp too so they can be pretty tanky.

    My favorite games are Pokemon Colosseum and Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness for the Nintendo Gamecube without a doubt. These games were so ahead of their time and their story, graphics, and animations were just so good being 2 of the first 3d pokemon games (stadium games being the first). If you're a big pokemon fan and haven't played these games I highly recommend you do because they are criminally underrated. I've started playing through them again recently on my phone through dolphin emulator which, if you don't know, allow you to play gamecube and wii games on your computer or phone if you have a powerful enough device.

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/LF7U6VR91XEJ/screenshot-2021-04-26-20-16-52-631-org-dolphinemu-dolphinemu.jpg

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/KXUGB3TR8WON/screenshot-2021-04-26-20-26-38-593-org-dolphinemu-dolphinemu.jpg

    If you're interested at all just ask me.

    My favorite battle theme would have to be Zinnia's from OR/AS. Love those violins. Beautiful.

    My dream team would pretty much just be my top 6 favorite pokemon: Vaporeon, Houndoom, Latios, Flygon, Ampharos, and Metagross.

    The first Pokemon game I ever played was the og Ruby on the gameboy. Probably why gen 3 is my favorite lol.

    But yep now how about you guys?

    1) Honestly, Shedinja. Ilhsm.

    2) Gen 5

    3) I think it'd be the Team Plasma theme from B2/W2, but N's theme is good too. But so is the Gym theme from SwSh- there's too many to decide.

    4)

    image.png

    (feat. young me naming + diancie)

    5) Pokemon White.

  • @Yords said:

    Imagine just opening a locker and seeing Joey sitting there like a dweet

    Joey just grabs the poor baby Dweet and the chorus of e-girls are ruining my life by Corpse plays in the background

  • @OniWantsYourMacaroni said:

    I think me and a lot of other people really wanted Legion to be similiar to the Twins (Being able to pressure multiple places at once basically).

    However,your idea for a new Legion power seems waaay to complicated to me.

    Like,the text that would explain the power would probably cover the entire screen

    Also, Silent and Furious Frenzy are way too similiar to Feral Frenzy to the point that you might as well just make them addons for current Legion.

    Lethal Frenzy is just a bad/potentially more punishing Demo shred.

    Stab Wound Study and Smiley Face Pin seems like a more or less interesting idea

    Stolen Sketchbook sounds too strong (1 bad player could pretty throw the entire game depending on the situation).

    The rest of the addons are rather ok or pretty meh

    Like,the text that would explain the power would probably cover the entire screen

    I'm not sure it would though, because it wouldn't go into the specifics. It wouldn't say that you move at 135% movement speed and you suffer a fatigue of 4 seconds if you miss a swing, it'd just be "Your movement speed is increased/You suffer from a fatigue."

    Also, Silent and Furious Frenzy are way too similiar to Feral Frenzy to the point that you might as well just make them addons for current Legion.

    Silent I disagree with, but Furious I can kinda see? But at the same time, having it like this kinda provides diversity + raises the skillcap.

    Lethal Frenzy is just a bad/potentially more punishing Demo shred.

    In my defence I wanted him to have no fatigue if he vaulted a pallet or window but Turbo thought that may be a smidge too OP. Any thoughts on how to improve it, though?

    Stolen Sketchbook sounds too strong (1 bad player could pretty throw the entire game depending on the situation).

    Say Frank/Julie/Susie stab 3 people with their power (since there's no way it'd work on Joey). By the time they've hit a survivor, cancelled, caught up, and downed the survivor the first two survivors would've/should've mended. So, I don't think it'd be too bullshit OP, unless it's a joyous 3gen, at which point that's kinda their fault to begin with.

  • @Beelzeboop said:

    I honestly love this idea.

    The main issue I see here is that Julie's Furious Frenzy is way, way too similar to Frank's Feral Frenzy. It's just the same thing with a numbers tweak.

    Also, how would cosmetics work? Would you have four different sets of cosmetics equipped at once? Would you only get to customize one member?

    The main issue I see here is that Julie's Furious Frenzy is way, way too similar to Frank's Feral Frenzy. It's just the same thing with a numbers tweak.

    As they're dating, we thought that it should work in a really similar way. In their lore, they're similar to each other, so their powers should also be similar, ya know?

    Julie's is better for when people are more spread out, due to being able to move faster, while Frank's would be better if they were already close together as you can use the longer duration to chain more hits (and get more value out of SWS nudge nudge wink wink). Like I said in the overview, we wanted to raise the skill cap to Legion.

    I think we may have succeeded. Maybe.

  • @DoritoHead said:

    Wait, so Frank and Susie have the same power?

    Otherwise, I think this is a good concept, however Lethal Frenzy sounds like a scaled-down version of Blight (the division of 3 separate powers compensates for this). Also, I'd add that during Silent Frenzy Susie loses that pesky loud breathing. I also don't really like how you'd have to swerve your camera around to locate the auras and waste the little time you do have.

    Frank and Susie

    I think you mean Frank and Julie., and not technically. The same concept yes, as they're dating, but there are differences. Julie moves faster (150% vs 135%) for less time (8 seconds vs 12 seconds), meaning Frank travels further but Julie does it faster.

    I also don't really like how you'd have to swerve your camera around to locate the auras and waste the little time you do have.

    I feel like swerving your camera around a bit is kinda made up for with the fact you can do a cross-map teleport.

  • @TurboTOne said:

    Wow this a Great Idea. Whoever came up with it must be pretty Smard (:

    this is why you employ me to proof read

  • @CornHub said:

    You have to remember BHVR is just a business like everyone else. As long as there's no financial or PR incentive, they probably won't.

    but there is both a profit incentive and a PR incentive. it costs nothing to change a pronoun and would help both immensely.

  • @JimboMason said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2162375#Comment_2162375

    Unless there is a purpose behind a homo relationship, such as Sally and her husband Andrew, or Felix and his girlfriend (although this one is debatable), love interest is not really needed in this game. We can promote diversity and representation within the game with the use of charms, character cosmetics, events, etc.

    No reason to have Frank/Julie be a thing nor be as prominent as it is in the tome.

    No need for David's ex to be mentioned at all.

    But they were. Why not do the same for lgbtq+ people?

  • @NomiNomad said:

    In my honest opinion, Solo Survivor. And not in the "let's give something that should be base to a perk!" Way.

    @GoodBoyKaru knows what I'm talking about.

    Oh lawd do I.

    Small Game btw

  • @Marigoria said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2162375#Comment_2162375

    I'm trans myself and my question to that is, how would you make a trans character without it being a stereotype/token?

    Another point is that we dont have the lore for all the characters we have in game yet, so we don't know if one of them is going to be LGBT.

    I agree with what someone else said. I think the best approach to someone's LGBT identity is it to be mentioned in the lore, and not in the way the character appears.

    So... The best way to do it is what I've been arguing for for 16 pages of this thread? Why are you trying to argue with me, I literally agree with you

    I'm not trans so I don't feel educated enough to comment on the best for of trans representation, I'm sorry

  • @JimboMason said:

    Although there is still a lot of hetero relationships, it doesn't necessarily mean that a certain character is just hetero, the point of the sexuality of the character not being stated is to insert yourself into the character, so let it be whatever you want to be.

    We ask for homo relationship representation or trans character representation tbf, just like there's hetero relationship representation.

  • @Saitamfed said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2162038#Comment_2162038

    People take things too seriously sometimes, it means they need to learn to chill down. The harassment in real life won't end because X character is gay. Right?

    There are far more important troubles or things to be concerned... if yo're so triggered because Nurse had a husband instead of a wife then perhaps you should start thinking if you're looking at the things that matters. If you care so much it means yo have a lot of free time.

    "People take things too seriously sometimes, it means they need to learn to chill down. The harassment in real life won't end because X character is gay. Right?"

    Actually, you're wrong. Representation has two purposes, to provide comfort and to provide cultural change. If representation is widespread enough across a lot of media it can genuinely change people's views on things. Steven Universe, despite its many flaws, is one of the shows that aim to make the current children a lot more tolerant.

    It also provides comfort in the form of humanising people. I went a load of my life being nulled at school + abused at home cause I was gay. I was made to feel like I wasn't even human, like I was intrinsically flawed and didn't deserve to live. Take a guess where that went.

    Representation could've and probably would've helped stop this... Downward spiral.

    "There are far more important troubles or things to be concerned... if yo're so triggered because Nurse had a husband instead of a wife then perhaps you should start thinking if you're looking at the things that matters. If you care so much it means yo have a lot of free time."

    Yeah, I'm not triggered by it. I just want equal treatment, as do a lot of people. As it too much to aks to be treated the same as anyone else? Apparently so.

    And yeah I have a load of unresolved issues. All of which can be traced back to me being bullied. All of which could've been stopped through proper representation and tolerance.

    It's important.

  • @Weeb_H_Toast said:

    Sexual orientation and gender politics don't belong in a horror game. Leave both vague, that way we don't have particular characters get targeted, we don't mix sex and slashing. ew

    Sexual orientation has been I the game since August 2016. You've missed your mark

  • @Mandy said:

    I apologise to the people that were able to discuss this topic in a civil and mature manner - there was obviously one that was unable to do this. The matter has been taken care of and I hope that there's no lasting offence to anyone. As you know, we promote inclusivity greatly, and it's something that means a lot to us, so comments of that nature, were never going to be acceptable here.

    thanks for that mandy, it was uh... a bit of an experience.

  • @Saitamfed said:

    Well... I am gay but Why? As far as I am concerned all characters could be straight and I wouldn't care because the core of the game is other... stop with the nonesense that LGBTQ needs to be added everywhere.

    you don't care, doesn't mean nobody does.

  • theyre different characters and therefore should be legendary. i dont know why hag isnt if im being honest

  • @scenekiller said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2161859#Comment_2161859

    Thank god this guy got banned, he's been wrecking havoc the last few days

    Op, if it doesn't affect you personally, why do you care if others care?

    cant say im particularly shocked at the ban lol

  • @Ethelwulf said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2161831#Comment_2161831

    What opression? Making doxxing groups for people who don't like you to get them fired and having every major corporation and government pandering to you?

    what the ######### is wrong with you, seriously?

  • @Ethelwulf said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2161332#Comment_2161332

    You guys are so privileged your biggest source of "nice feelings" is a videogame character

    or theyre sick and tired of dealing with oppression and other bullshit they seek comfort in video game characters?

    couldn't possibly be it.

  • @BadBunny said:

    I dont really care whether a char is gay or not, as long as it isnt the central aspect of their personality. Tbh i couldn't care less what they mention in their lore, because i dont read that stuff anyway and as long as they dont run around waving a rainbow flag in game im totally fine with any backstory being created for them that represent these ppl. I can see why people care about this, i can see why people are against it. Generally hate oversexualization of characters tho.

    wait till you hear about the pride flag charm

  • @CluelessWanderer said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2161318#Comment_2161318

    If this was a genuine question, I'll try and answer it the best I can.

    Of course, I have nothing against adding someone non-hetero into games/media. Why would I? My issue is how it sometimes comes about and how it reflects on the gay community. I personally don't think sexual orientation is relevant in DBD. But when the topic comes up in situations like this, anyone who states anything against the notion of suddenly making sexual orientation relevant, often gets met with anger, insults and false accusations of bigotry/homophobia etc.

    These topics make me wince sometimes because I don't like seeing regular people who are not homophobic in the slightest labeled as such dishonestly because they have an opinion someone doesn't like. It makes the whole discussion of inclusion hostile, and makes people resentful when it's brought up in the future.

    So I can understand why some gay people would like to see more characters that *just happen to be gay/bi etc*. I would too, but I'd like to see this come about authentically. Like a show/game that was written that way originally. I think people have issues when it's forced into things largely irrelevant because it can come across as a political demand by the mob. Unfortunately, a lot of this stuff is very politically charged these days whether we like it or not- and a lot of us just want hobbies where we don't have to think about politics.

    I've been writing this intermittently so if it's not perfectly coherent, sorry!

    yeah, I was genuinely curious so thanks for the reply.

    But when the topic comes up in situations like this, anyone who states anything against the notion of suddenly making sexual orientation relevant, often gets met with anger, insults and false accusations of bigotry/homophobia etc.

    The accusations of homophobia without, ya know, actual homophobia (such as "Don't add gay people that's a mistake" or "I do NOT want to see an LGBT. I even have a reason. LGBT propaganda is a CRIME in Russia. Go on, say [BAD WORD] but won't care.") I agree is a bit far, but just in terms of going aginast not making it relevant- it already is relevant thanks to David and Felix and Nurse and Frank and Julie. Especially Frank/Julie.

    So I can understand why some gay people would like to see more characters that *just happen to be gay/bi etc*. I would too, but I'd like to see this come about authentically. Like a show/game that was written that way originally. I think people have issues when it's forced into things largely irrelevant because it can come across as a political demand by the mob. Unfortunately, a lot of this stuff is very politically charged these days whether we like it or not- and a lot of us just want hobbies where we don't have to think about politics.

    In terms of this, would you be okay if it was just a comment that got mentioned in passing. Like, "He was all alone- his friends had left him. Even his boyfriend was gone."? Because afaik that's what most people ask for and it seems like a fairly good solution. Or more like Nurse, where a relationship would be a large part of the lore but not a key integral bit?

    Just not Frank x Julie where the entire personality trait is gay, obviously.

    In terms of the politics thing, that's just frustrating. It shouldn't be political, and neither should race- they're just biological traits that people gotta deal with.

    But, yeah, thanks for the response :)

  • @Drixpy_Jayyy said:

    @GoodBoyKaru I never said that I didnt care about the lore or "admitted in your words" because they are quite interesting and messed up for some of the killers and survivors its just why people want to go deep down with it.

    okay my bad

    people have "suddenly started caring" due to a tweet from the developers last year stating that theyd now be adding explicitly lgbtq+ relationships and characters into the game's lore. since then, no such representation has shown up. that's why it's so "sudden".

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