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Kinda like that idea. And a fix to protection hits of course.
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@LordGlint said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/808493#Comment_808493
Theres only 7 gens total...I think you meant patrolling 4 is easier than 7.
Yeah sry xD
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Huntress #1 best mom in dae world
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@Monlyth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/808465#Comment_808465
Well, if the survivors find an unblocked generator, then they can repair it at a normal rate. Once they've found an unblocked generator, you need to physically go there and chase them away in order to slow them down. Whereas Ruin will slow down gen repairs even if you're nowhere near the generators currently being worked on.
True, but patroling four generators is easier than seven.
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I would keep her as she is. She's fine.
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@Monlyth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/808358#Comment_808358
No, even against a SWF that runs Small Game and finds the totem immediately before you can interrupt them, AND only hits great skill checks, it's still a good perk.
You forced the survivors to waste time looking for and cleansing the totem instead of doing generators, prevented 2% gen progress for every skillcheck they hit while Ruin was up, and in this case, forced them to run a niche perk like Small Game instead of BT, DS, Adren or DH.
Even if Ruin only lasts for 60 seconds at the start of the match, and the survivors only hit great skill checks, the amount of time it buys you in the crucial early game is unmatched.
Kinda true. But what if i told you, that there's a perk, that blocks three generators at the beginning of the game for two minutes? Boom!
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Against REALLY good survivors, ruin is a wasted perk slot. But that swf are equally rare than mind reading nurse players.
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@Mellow7 said:
People Smurf in every game especially competitive games, although it's looked down on to use a Smurf account. it's usually what people use to experiment with things that they wouldn't be able to do in their own league they do this so they can practice without the pressure of losing points,rank, etc. Because it's not a serious setting they most of the time will solely use their Smurf to practice, I've gone against smurfs in every game especially Fighters but it doesn't discourage me from playing it just motivates me to get better. people need to stop having this mentality that just because you lose to someone who is more skilled than you that you will never beat them, if the world worked that way then no one would strive to beat another persons record or feats.
Smurfs are very frustrating. In my opinion a person who don't want to get frustrated trying things in their own rank shouldn't expect lower rank people to get frustrated for them. So even the "best" smurf is selfish in his core. Not even mentioning people that like to stomp lower ranks.
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How bout making that perk baseline?
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No offerings that can be abused by SWF too hard.
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weak in the highest ranks.
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Good. Love it.
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@[Deleted User] said:
well they are right you will just have to learn the nurse again like all of us the only problem I have is now the blinks feel strange by strange I mean before all I need is to charge for half a second to blink through a wall now I have to charge a second and a half to blink through a wall maybe it is a bug or it is a problem with dedicated servers
(dedicated)
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@chibikoi said:
Nurse main here
if you are avarege new nurse is bad, you can't spam blinks anymore and survivors have a better time hiding
if you are good new nurse went from S tier to A tier due to loss on map pressure (this hit me the most) and chases taking longer
if you are godlike new nurse is still the best killer in the game, but the survivors may pop one gen before getting 4k'd
overall, at every match I play I feel like the old one was even more overpowered and needed the nerf, she is still fine
I can agree on the map pressure.
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I trued her like two times in console pre-nerf and god was it painful.
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Yeah, that's what i suffer in solo queue too.
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@FregglesFred said:
Nurse is still great. Don't see why everyone says she's bad. I still drop 4ks with her easily.
I think most of the complains are about servers. And the base nurse nerf. Because she is lacking map pressure and chase potential with nearly all addons massively.
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@Poochkips said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/806535#Comment_806535
Why does everyone have to attack people who have a differing opinion? They're absolutely right, a killer that bypasses all of the general mechanics is not exactly good for the game. I think personally instead of gutting her like they did, they should have just took every addon away like how they have it now. No more omega blinks. That would have been enough to make it pretty fair as it is. Now you just need to be precise. To be fair, once a nurse found you, it was basically a down. It's extremely hard to lose her even if she misses a lot. Before everyone was saying shes unenjoyable to play against. Nurse mains didnt care, now nurse mains are saying shes unenjoyable to play. And survivors dont care. Happens.
No attack. The phrase "a killer ignoring every pallet/loop" is just not right. You can time pallets on nurse to mess with her reappear location. The looping works not like against other killer. Most times you have to LoS break and make her guess where you are.
Long story short, a person saying "a killer ignoring every pallet/loop is unhealthy for the game" basically just ignored facts. So i can say bing bong your opinion is wrong.
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@[Deleted User] said:
BHVR was like "The way to fix Nurse is we'll add a cooldown for her cooldown".
One second more of fatigue. It's so easy, why does BHVR not understand, that looking at the ground moderatly longer is better than standing around for three seconds doing nothing.
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@xerav said:
She is still strong but you cant spam blink anymore (still think a killer skipping the entire base gameplay of loops / palett is unhealthy for the game).
I just hope that nerfing her means BHVR is going to takle repair speed for SWF/ Red Rank games.
I bet you are unable to loop nurse, you sound like you didn't know mpre than running around pallets.
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With cooldown addons she feels okay, but without em you wait half of the game to get your blinks. I think the crappy servers and the constant bugs she still got make hdr even more unsatisfying to play. I'm gonna test her again in four years, when BHVR fixed dedicated.
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Kate's climbing outfit.
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@Weederick said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/805002#Comment_805002
Its not fair too, that a killer was so good, she can even beat that other overpowered thing. Balance means balancing everything, even your own side. Or else we would still facecamp and infinite and point at each other. Cant remove infinites if facecamping stays. Cant remove facecamping if infinites stay. Then we dont remove either of those and nobody is happy. One step at a time. Genrush is long overdue for a look though, agree on that.
The challenges added a new kind of "objective" though. Maybe a try of the devs to stop genrush.
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@Haku said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804547#Comment_804547
Then you rarely meet a good killer which does not surprise me. Many good players just moved on which is normal for a game, other got frustrated and left. That is all. Nothing really to do with your skill level. Btw Flashlights are counterable too ... by seeing them in the lobby you just don't play hag that game/or leave/ - surpriseee right ? /which leaves just chests with their surely increased chance to find a flashlight but still only 8 secs/no addons for you/ unless she decides to use an offering /
And Billy? Extremely viable am i right? Super meta, every killer is just a noob right?
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@Weederick said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804854#Comment_804854
Billy also has to abandon chase at infinites. Hag gets hardcountered by swf and flashlights. They have weaknesses, but their capabilities are still way superior. Huntress is really good, but more hit-or-miss. Apart from nurse and spirit, i think she's the 3rd strongest killer against the best teams.
Dont you think that it is just fair, that you should lose perkless, addonless against great survivor swfs? Every killer loses to good survivors genrushing. Why SHOULD nurse be the exception?
She shouldn't be the exception, she should have been what all killers be like: dangerous. Not a plaything.
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@noneofyourbusiness said:
the subject of this discussion is "Nurse is not top tier anymore" everyone know this is not true, so we can end this discussion here, there's nothing here to add
I also said it could be the horrific servers plus the several bugs nurse got atm. I'll wait till the devs fixed it and then try her again. Legion will be enough for my poor ass.
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@noneofyourbusiness said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804743#Comment_804743
simple u're not good enough on her
Nurse is playable by the top 0.3% of all nurse players now, if they are using her without the CD addons against good survivors. Is that good? I don't think so.
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@noneofyourbusiness said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804674#Comment_804674
me too even on 1 blink so?
i tried one blink for fun, got around two people most times
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@noneofyourbusiness said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804553#Comment_804553
typical nurse player who could only play with extra blinks or omega, pathetic, base nurse before was fine and now with addons she's better, than her base before, she's like rest killer's now, she need's addons to be more viable or still like I before said if u're master nurse lvl 9000 you can stomp SWF with no perks/addons still
i played her without perks and addons for fun on r1 before, but ok
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@xllxENIGMAxllx said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804533#Comment_804533
Forget it for him the nurse is dead.
(without cooldown addons) yes she is.
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@Haku said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804455#Comment_804455
Well that only means you are not very good at playing other killers ... Every time someone pretend Billy does not exist makes me smile. Can you imagine me saying that Huntress also exist - thank god not many play her or at her best /which makes her a great killer/. Current Freddy also exists. Hag is also great and childish easy to use. Yet to see what the new Nurse is capable of since she still ignores loops and pallets.
All killers mentioned are either loopable or got a hardcounter (flashlights for example). I'm walking over every killer except spirit as survivor. Tells me very much.
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@Galklife said:
@lunaticlifter every killer is viable on red ranks xd i dont get why most killers are telling this like mantra " this is viable, this is not" "im not bad, that killer is just not viable"
and im telling it as pig/wraith main xd
your "viable" only means that killer allows you to make more mistakes and still win xd
tired of using billy, spirit and freddy? just put big boy pants on and play other killers without crying "he isnt free win for me"
+ if you care about rank that means for you rank means sth, and in that mind you should work hard for it xd not go easy way (yes im claiming games as billy, spirit, freddy are easy) but if you think rank doesnt matter (like i do) why you care about rank/losing game?(i can hit R1 easly without carring about rank)
but overall it all would be fixed if there was other Que "casual" xd but we wont get that, and ppl will sweat and other wont find way to avoid sweating ppl (maybe if you de-rank to green ranks where you can chill)
"viable" means having the same skillcap as survivors. Not more or less. And the only killer having the same skillcap as survivirs right now is spirit.
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It would be very helpful, at the moment she only got one crappy UR to make her faster without making her legion.
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@noneofyourbusiness said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804332#Comment_804332
stealth first, next usually doesn't work so i'm getting hit, ofc, next i try to break LOS running around big stucture like main build on swamp, trying mindgames her on stairs on swamp, haddonfield, try to run in corn, farm maps, against average nurse not even good or "god" this doesn't work so u know
If you do this, it's a guess. If you make the right guess, congratulations, you wasted around 10 seconds of her time. Every missed blink is around 10 seconds chase time. Even as a bad player without any looping skill at all you can use DH to make a chase 30 seconds long. Baseline. Every right guess by your side longers the chase. And constant chases one minute or longer let you loose the game.
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Spirit, i'm bad against her.
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@noneofyourbusiness said:
u what?
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/530/4KP92COOMSTX.png
as a surivor I play with my friends all players between 2-3k hrs on gameplay and nurse without addons only with BBQ 3 destroy us with ease
i'm sorry, you don't know how to loop versus nurse. Tell me, how do you avoid getting hit by her?
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I watched the vid. You played pretty average the whole game and only capitalized on survivor mistakes. At the end you snowballed because of one death. And ruin stayed up very long. Show me a similar result with ruin breaking early and survivors that not run straight forward in the corn.
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@THEghostface said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804255#Comment_804255
Well you're not trying to gen grab them after marking. Marking an unaware survivor that is darn well a great distance from you is a bad play on your part. Tru3's anti-heal build is just *one* way of playing Ghost, NOT the only way.
Like i said, if you think so, play him like this.
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@THEghostface said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/804214#Comment_804214
Tru3talent: the guy who says stalking as Ghost Face is bad
Also Tru3talent: recklessly moves around in the open, trying to stalk a survivor that now already knows he's there
Ghost Face didn't become viable because a streamer plays him a certain way. Tru3 is truly bad at stalking with this killer. What he calls ineffective has given me easy 4Ks in short time, so he's not entirely in the right at all.
The moment you expose them they know you're there right? With anti-heal you can't be broken out, you don have to stalk and 99 them, they show their location through healing and looking at you, i mean it seems really obvious.
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@xllxENIGMAxllx said:
Sorry but no she's still top tier. I 4k every game with her addonless, I'm on PS4 btw it's she that strong on consoles she's definitely better on PC. I find her more stronger than before with add-ons.
Rank? Rank matters extremely when it comes to the viability of killers.
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@THEghostface said:
Please don't tell me the "right" way is Tru3's "optimal" strategy.
(it's the best way fyi) But keep thinking stalk is useful. Every game needs some people to try out ######### things, maybe theyll be useful sometimes.
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@Usui said:
The main issue I have with it is all the killer ultra rares are seen as killers just having their fun, but when a survivor has their fun, it's seen as toxic. Not to mention survivors no longer have anything in comparison to killer ultras now.
(keys) and the instas of course. If you think syringe is dead you probably think that nurse is still op lmao.
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@Marcus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/803922#Comment_803922
It's not like all Nurses are Nostradamus, they are not gonna predict you every single time unless you are very predictable. Maps with lots of LOS breakers like Lery's, Hawkins or Family Residence can be a pain in the ass even for very experienced Nurses. Same with big maps, they got even worse for her now that she has a cooldown on her blinks. Her map pressure got hurt more than her chase potential by these changes.
That's exactly what i said. The better the survivors get the more of your blinks are prediction. If you land exactly where you want, but the survivor did something you didn't predict, gg, you can go in fatigue AND cooldown.
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@ScottJund said:
is everyone on crack. She is still by far the best killer in the game as long as you hit your blinks.
Billy is better if you hit every of your chainsaws. But the question is if billy can hit every chainsaw.
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Did anyone had those bugs i mentioned too?
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(and a mori rework)
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She don't need anything. Devs think she is "overperforming", whatever that means.
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It's the solution to genrush. People do ither things than gens AND are friendly af. I love it.
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It's possible to activate MoM now. xD
"Botany Knowledge", "Empathy", "Mettle of Man", "Dead Hard"
plus a good emergency medkit is much fun actually.
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It's mainly because of double BP.