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@nars said:
- People are complaining about blights addons
- camping is literally getting removed from the game so stop complaining
- "genrush" in quotations? its the killer equivalent of getting tunneled. Uninteractive, uncounterable and boring.
- tunneling isnt toxic, its just an overpowered strategy. Its god awful annoying but god forbid people play to win, wanting to win is so toxic. but yeah nerf tunneling
- addons are absolutely not as pressing an issue as gen speeds.
survivors getting nerfed more because survivors the stronger role right now.
What I think you meant to say is SWF is the strongest role. Go play solo queue and tell me that with a straight face. BHVR can choose to ignore it all they want but solo queue is disgustingly bad right now.
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@Crowman said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3448125#Comment_3448125
If a team of survivors group up for the killer to slug them all and bleed them out, then the killer likely was significantly better than the survivors.
Slugging has the most counterplay as it's much harder for killers to just camp a slugged body to death and a fully recovered survivor is quick to pick up. As long as survivors aren't just grouping up and attempting to pick up a non-recovered survivor, there's no reason for the entire team to be all slugged. Especially with the HUD changes that show you the recovery status of the slugged survivor.
Cool story bro.
Hilariously bad take.
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This thread is fire.
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You guys are just trying to get me to jump back in.
I see you.
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@LeFreezy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3446990#Comment_3446990
They get their penalty. Hook suiciders and griefers don't.
Using a mechanic that Is within the game rules isn't griefing.
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@Eleo said:
I'm tunneling and camping because it seems kind of effective. Survivors are in a 4-person squad, on comms, telling each other what they're doing, what they plan to do, where I am, who I'm chasing, where I'm going, what my perks are, making coordinated plays against me in real-time, telling each other where to go to get healed, "I'm about to go down someone come save me", asking each other directly for body blocks, you're hiding 10ft away as a hook a survivor waiting for me to walk away so you can get an insta-rescue, etc. Their logic is simple: if it helps them win and it's not against the rules, they're going to do it. Cool, then we're on the same page.
I literally camp and tunnel more now than I did when I was new at the game. I imagine the survivors moaning about it to each other on discord as I do it. I don't really play like this against soloists, but a large part of that is because I would never have to in order for the match to feel reasonably competitive.
Big difference here tho is, being on comms is effectively sanctioned cheating that requires you to use implements that exist outside of the game, but tunneling and camping is just playing the game in a way that's kind of annoying for the survivors.
Sanctioned cheating?
And here I thought Ive heard it all.
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@Pluto_1 said:
I hear this a lot. The word "skill" is tossed around a lot in here.
Let's break down the role of a killer.
- Kill survivors
If someone has the word "killer" in their name then you can guess what they're gonna do.
Killer: someone who kills
The role of a killer in DBD: kill survivors
What's so hard to understand about that?
I'm a killer main. And I'm not a nice killer. My job is simple and only has one goal. To kill survivors.
Do we get it now?
Cool story bro.
And no, I push back on your simplistic black/white take on the game. It is infinitely more complex than that and you know it.
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@Rokku_Rorru said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3440047#Comment_3440047
the funny thing is it's so common these days I'm able to run at a killer with OTR + DS + Dead hard and make them lose an entire match just to kill me because they fall for all three, that's when you know the situation is getting out of hand. and they get so angry and BM when it happens lmfao
Yes well its the same people who do this have some limited success until they play a good team who crushes them and then they get on the forums crying about how broken the game is and how survivor sided it is.
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@Bardon said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3437637#Comment_3437637
Mate, he posted the math and real-life results in his video. How is that melodramatic - the figures speak for themselves.
And? My point remains the same. Unless your running some kind of gen-jockey build its trash. Sorry it hurts your feelings that I think Otz is intentionally a drama queen.
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Basekit Lightborn? This dude has jokes.
If it's so important to you just literally run it. Problem solved.
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I sometimes wonder if I am even playing the same game as posters on this forum or if people are intentionally being disingenuous.
I get hard tunneled all the time. (straight off the unhook) And if its not me, its one of the randoms Im playing with.
Proxy camped a majority of the time in any given hook.
Face camp in endgame all the time.
Face camp in regular match is less common, perhaps once or twice out of 10 matches.
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@RoastedGarlic said:
otz broke down the math, perk is op especially when paired with built to last. you cant argue with math.
Biased view. He gets paid for clicks on his videos so of course he is melodramatic about every little thing.
Its another trash perk along with a long list of "OP PERKS" that certain people like to clamor is going to break the game. Its too situational and niche to ever be run all the time no matter if drama queens want to get on the forums and scream otherwise.
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Well according to all the forum warrior killer mains this isn’t even possible. Trapper isn’t even viable………
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@Crowman said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3431363#Comment_3431363
You could say that people who complain about tunneling and how they can't escape are just not good at the game as well.
Never said I was good nor did I complain.
Are you saying that its survivors own fault that they cant escape from being hard tunneled? Cool story bro.
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@Katzengott said:
What again were the incentives to not tunnel?
This excuse is problematic because its the same type of people who get crushed by SWF's and people that are actually good at the game and get on the forums crying about how survivors sided the game is.
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No one here actually plays solo queue? It happens there all the time. 90% of the matches snowball out of control in the killers favor in the first few minutes.
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I play primarily on my PS 5 and I dont have my messages turned off.
I have noticed a lot of killers on playstation who use what I would describe as "unfun & unpopular" tactics have them turned off for obvious reasons. 🤔
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@NoHookDC said:
Ah yes; The Killer was mean, so all Survivors everywhere should get something basekit to abuse over Killers whenever they want. 🙃
I guess I'm not surprised Survivors demand more abuseable basekit mechanics; The devs gave them BT, which they abuse to bodyblock, then complain they got tunneled when they get downed for said bodyblocking.
So now they know they can keep yelling loud enough to get more mechanics they can abuse, then go ShockedPikachu.jpg and complain don't work. 😂
Irony is lost on you isn't it?
Some people might say that slugging people is a mechanic that is widely abused.
Always someone trying to ice skate uphill.
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Tea bagging has been part of PVP gaming ever since I have been playing them.
Leave it to the DBD community to throw massive hissy fits about it and threaten to ruin anyones match that does it to them.
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@DBDVulture said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3428516#Comment_3428516
The old plan was : buff solo to be closer to SWF. They massively did that with the hud changes.
Step two was buff killers - but we likely wont get that part of the plan.
This a joke?
It's going to take a lot more change than just a simple hud to buff solo queue to be any thing other than the killer sided massacre it is now.
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Sorry to blow up your thread with a harsh dose of reality but I never do any of those things that make killers so angry and I still get tunneled and camped. So ya.......
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@Sonzaishinai said:
We as a community have proven we don't deserve Q&A's
Constant word twisting, misconstruing, people being too dumb to understand how analogies work
Too many people are just going in with the intent to use it for a way to turn every word against the devs. When you have something that is suppose to be a fun community thing and it turns into having to tripple check everything you say so you don't get backlash which is most of the time questionable at best why bother.
Most controversial things like "play Civ" or the hockey analogy are 100% correct things that the community is just to immature or childish to understand
You said all that and still didn’t explain the point they were trying to make. Why don’t you explain it so everyone understands?
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@woundcowboy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3427223#Comment_3427223
Any change you could make to prevent “unnecessary” slugging would also hurt instances in which the killer needs to slug.
“Needs to slug” 🫣
Normally I say this as a joke, but in this instance…..
Skill issue. Git gud.
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@sulaiman said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3424771#Comment_3424771
only its not. bleeding out, you die after 4 minutes, even if he picks you up then, you can wiggle free, and you die when he downs you again. Thats not holding the game captive, no matter how much you didnt like it.
Then you're fine with killers being removed from the match for 4 minutes by the survivors whenever they decide, I assume?
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Its trash. It's so situational and niche it takes effort to get it to kick in properly.
BHVR is terrified of actually giving survivors decent perks. I will let you figure out why that is.
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Bait post. Not even a good one. Do better.
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@Shroompy said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3425226#Comment_3425226
I wouldnt even say its in a bad state. Just the community babies upset that their crutches were taken away
Gross generalization and you know it.
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@Brokenbones said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3423986#Comment_3423986
What even is a fact
Nobody knows.
The earth revolves around the sun. Thats a fact. What is so confusing to you?
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@ProfessorDunwich said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3422760#Comment_3422760
Nah, I just use Lightborn.
Then the whole point of this thread is moot. Im so confused.
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This game has some serious issues with balance and double standards that really standout the more you play it.
The rate in which matches snowball in killers favor in solo queue is downright disgusting.
No amount of bad logic/mental gymnastics or just flat out ignoring it is going to solve anything. Thats how we got to where we are.
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@ironblade said:
I have a hard time playing Legion in huge maps but in small maps, it's easier to use Legion's power. What's your take?
None of the above. Boring and mundane come to mind.
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@NoHookDC said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3420030#Comment_3420030
And this is why hook-DCing needs to be removed.
Because Survivors quit like toddlers if the Killer is/uses perks/uses addons/rolls a map that they don't like.
Yes because forcing people to play a game they dont want to be in is a great decision.
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@Yippiekiyah said:
The killer's that suck are the one that don't regularly use the most effective strategies, tunneling and camping FACTS
No, that's your opinion. It doesn't make it a fact.
Do I need to leave an explanation on the forums on the difference between opinions and facts?
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Only the DBD community can turn a basic accessibility option into ANOTHER us vs them post.
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@LuthirFontaine said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3416527#Comment_3416527
Because it's still a fun game, just need tweaks. Kinda of like basketball when they put in a shot clock in 1954 to decrease stalling and just unfun play time.
They're were probably people like you saying "But stalling is part of the game!!!" Yeah well times changes friend.
Poor analogy. Laying on the ground bleeding out is far different than a game of basketball where the rules are the same.
Double standards should not exist in a "balanced" game for all players, but sadly, they do.
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@pseudechis said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3416158#Comment_3416158
Bleeding out is just part of the game and a rather thematic part at that.
It takes 4 mins in accumulated time which is not long at all.
How many time do I have to bleed out before It becomes a problem? 100? 1,000?
Infinite?
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@NoHookDC said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3416554#Comment_3416554
Ah yes, more 'Try not doing anything that could help you win. Allow us to name it and shame you'.
Again; returning to a hook ain't 'proxy camping'. That's a BS, made up phrase by salty Survivors.
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Basekit BT doesn't even last that long. For this scenario to happen the way you are describing it you weren't that far from hook.
Try not proxy camping next time.
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@birdnippies said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3414974#Comment_3414974
Swing and a miss, then. Nobody seems to be laughing.
Speak for your self sunshine.
I thought it was hilarious.
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Yes. This is all it is. 100%.
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@Cynwale said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3414827#Comment_3414827
Well not really, I have heavy problems with Lithe and SB.
LMAO.
Of course you do.
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@SeaFlower said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3412156#Comment_3412156
I just couldn’t tell if you seriously thought something that unbelievably false. Most big multiplayer PvP game have penalties for quitting since it ruins the game for the other players.
Fortnite doesn't. And they are arguably the biggest one out there, and have been for quite some time.
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@SeaFlower said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3411131#Comment_3411131
Yeah, it is, and so is Blight. The top 1% or less stomping pub players, a lot of which just gave up or DC’d instantly, is irrelevant.
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Everything is irrelevant to you. What exactly is relevant then? Anything?
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@SeaFlower said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3410394#Comment_3410394
What’s your evidence? There’s lots of examples of good survivors holding their own against both and winning.
A thousand game winning streak isn't exactly backing that statement up.
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@HugTechLover said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3409625#Comment_3409625
Blight is not OP. C33 and alch ring are OP.
I can't really expect an unbiased POV from a dude with the name "Hug Tech Lover" in regards to Blight.
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If any survivor escaped a 1,000 matches in a row killer mains would be throwing absolute fits.
Because it is Blight everyone just shrugs their shoulders.
"Pretty good job so far!"
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@HugTechLover said:
Yea let’s ignore that every single viable regression perk (pain res is still decent with some brain) was destroyed. M1 killers cannot hardly keep up with a semi decent group. Survivors were not the only nerfed party.
You wanna heal yourself all game? Bring self care + botany.
While ignoring obvious things lets ignore how OP Blight is and how broken his add ons are.
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@TheArbiter said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3408895#Comment_3408895
I am curious what about the perk you think is bad?
Which one?
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Trash perk. Along with Lethal.
But by all means, don’t listen to me. Keep on running it.
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@Agent_Himbo said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3407032#Comment_3407032
It's not really about it being challenging, it's just that the killer role attracts certain type of people who are desperate to be the power role, they want to be able to kill, ruin the fun, hold hostage, etc. the other side and make sure that group can't fight back. In other games like Call of Duty those kind of people would easily be btfod by the opponent because enemy players can kill you back, but here all survivors can do is throw pieces of wood and run.
It's obvious things like Exhaustion perks are gonna be an issue to those people since they ruin their powerfantasy. You can't pull a "TAKE THAT DAVID! YOU'RE LITERALLY MY SCHOOL BULLY! AND YOU MEG! YOU'RE LITERALLY THAT GIRL THAT REJECTED ME IRL! SO I'M GONNA TUNNEL YOU!" if the survivor they were gonna use to take their anger away can dead hard to safety.
This guy gets it.