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killer- trash
killer perks:- decent
survivor:- trash perks
no map
overall rating :- 3/10
unless sadako gets a decent rework this chapter is a waste of a good license, time and money.
i am glad dredge was the anniversary killer instead.
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@Roadrunner said:
What do you disslike the most about the map design?
that's there's like 2-3 maps in the game that you can get as killer and not feel like you're in for a miserable match.
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yeah seems about right
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yeah, a lot of people have been wanting this and it is finally coming this year according to the roadmap (might be subject to change idk) but i am 99% sure that the people who think they're gonna learn anything going against bots will be heavily disappointed
i think the most you can learn in a bot match is how to use your power, for ex (blight rushes - bubba's chainsaw charges) or if you want to test something real quick without having to wait for someone
but how to effectively use that power in chase? how to run tiles? bots ain't gonna be much help with that.
i recommend watching yt videos and live streams, learn how other players play and then do it yourself and you'll improve.
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@Megmain80 said:
they listen to the feedback, but they choose to ignore survivor mains. Given that the next patch is a huge killer buff…
the patch nukes meta on both sides
buffs perks for both sides
gives basekit changes for both sides
survivor mains:- we're ignored :(
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3063403#Comment_3063403
The Nurse players are telling you to use different resources and that conventional resources aren't useful in the same way. That's what is puzzling about the debate. Players have tools, you're just choosing not to use them. You learned how to use X resources against M1 killers. Why can't you learn to use Y resources against Nurse?
I'd be fine with nurse staying the same ( i actually listened to nurse mains on this one because i was calling for a rework before) but her synergy with oppressive addons and perks needs to be removed
no range no recharge no starstruck no make your choice make it so the skillful plays on the survivor side actually matter and can't be ignored by addons that make a missplay by the nurse or good plays by the survivor mean little
basekit nurse can be fun to go against without all this bs (same goes for blight but a bit less)
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what i have learned from these discussions is that the 4-5 nurse mains on this forum will try in every way possible to defend this stupid killer and her addons writing essays on unrealistic ways for casual pub survivors to counter a killer that ignores the only resources they have to win the game.
there's just no point talking to these people anymore and people should stop trying and these discussions need to continue until the devs do something about this killer especially with the coming buffs to killers (which also buff nurse) and nerfs to survivors' meta (no longer dead harding or dsing a tunneling nurse) also since they contradict themselves nerfing twins cuz they're "monsters at high mmr" but not only do they keep nurse (the strongest killer in the game) the same they keep buffing her?????
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@Chocolate_Cosmos said:
I am Chad Lightborn user.
So I don't care if there is 0 flashlights or 500 of them.
#GigaChadLighborn #AvarageLightbornEnjoyer
using lightborn is like the opposite of GIGACHAD
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@Tigernutz1979 said:
I tried Nurse once. I can honestly say that I have no intention of EVER doing so again.
i also tried her once when i was new and i hated her and it was years before i cared to try her again when i was more experienced.
found out she's actually super fun to play because i don't have to chase normally like every other killer i am less restricted and getting a blink hit is super satisfying.
so now i hate her for another reason, (being the unbalanced piece of ######### design she is lol)
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@Onyx said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3058828#Comment_3058828
No plans are not "never will happen", which I hope does happen at some point. I just hope you guys can realize how much nicer it would be for people to have a match against bots where you can still progress through the rift, get achievements and more and even replace people who DC. I know a lot of people might complain, but they don't see the bigger picture and how it would do good for the health of the game and the people playing it too!
nah i experienced that on mobile and it was horrible, i instantly wanna get out of a game where there are dc bots as i didn't queue for a bot game it was so boring and they always do the same thing (crouch at a corner of a loop or run to the z wall or miss skill checks) bots in ranked matches should never ever be a thing in this game.
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3058953#Comment_3058953
If you don't think skill matters against a nurse right now. Just because of some add ons. That don't change her counters in any way. I don't know what to tell you.
range and recharge addons ignore the only counterplay to her which is making distance and blocking los if she can blink on top of you no matter the distance you gained and hit you before she's even out of her blink then your counterplay as survivor mattered little.
it becomes extra fun when a nurse runs starstruck, infectious, make your choice..etc ( at least slowdowns gonna get nerfed soon thank god)
why when it's a discussion about blight even nurse mains agree that his addons are busted even tho he's a killer that doesn't go through walls and have to know how to play loops but when it comes to nurse you guys act like she's the most balanced killer in the game
she doesn't need a rework but her power level needs to be toned down so she still plays the same and people who like playing against her can still do that but without all the extra bullshit.
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@dugman said:
Personally what I like is that the 10 second gen timer increase will help if you like to run loadouts with no slowdown. That little extra time means you have that much more of a buffer to get to a gen between chases to drive survivors off. Obviously running slowdown is still going to be effective, no doubt, but now no slowdown builds will hopefully feel a bit less challenging to play against time efficient survivors.
as long as maps are the same gen speed will still be a problem adding 10 seconds changes nothing at all if you're on the game, badham, haddonfield, garden of pain, eyrie of crows, rpd, suffo pit..etc
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/334094/can-we-have-an-eta-for-the-nurse-rework
Idk...When is the ETA on survivors just getting some skill ?
as soon as nurse players can no longer use op addons and perks on her maybe then the skill of the survivor will matter against nurse.
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@fcb said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/334094/can-we-have-an-eta-for-the-nurse-rework
play another game.
Sincerely yours, a bad console nurse player.
everyone plays the same game except nurse players.
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@Dsnooz said:
Nurse, Blight, Spirit, Hag, and Twins really don't need the buff.
twins need both buffs and nerfs cuz this a killer that makes the match unfun for both sides.
one of the changes I'd like to see happening for them is to make victor's respawn time longer but make it so you can recall him much faster so survivors can't hold him hostage.
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lol
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your wishes have been answered
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yes definitely, still a viable perk but not as boring as current dead hard. i think people will see the potential of it at some point and it'll still be a common perk but if not then thank god anyway screw dead hard lol.
edit:- now that it's .5 seconds am not really sure but this is still for the best a horribly designed perk finally getting the treatment it deserves.
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i might have slightly agreed that ghostface is better before his patch, but since the patch that was supposed to buff him made revealing him so easy and it's almost impossible to stalk survivors now i think myers is much better.
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because their hitbox is behind their back when they're healing for some reason so you need to aim further back.
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it's amazing how forum users are so triggered when someone suggests a streamer's opinion to them. you see a completely different reaction than reddit for example.
on reddit people usually respect the opinions of the well known streamers as they have a lot of experience and game knowledge to back it up, but on the forums??
a lot of disrespect to these streamers saying their opinions are not the only valid ones when the one suggesting it never even claimed it to be, or "you should form your own opinion" as if sharing an opinion with someone else is a crime.
it's very obvious people here have a hate boner for streamers and may i say it's because they never could get the same recognition streamers do even tho they're also experienced players?
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@[Deleted User] said:
when will these threads ever end
until they do something about nurse, they rather constantly nerf twins cuz they're "monsters at high mmr" but keep nurse the same as if she's not the same thing and even worse? it's the time for this killer to be dealt with and am glad people are finally speaking about it.
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yes they actually nerfed ghostface in the same patch that was supposed to buff him (and it did terrible job at that as well)
he's way too easy to be revealed now this killer is not in any way fun to play anymore they gutted him.
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i think insta scope should still be a thing but if he cancels, it should still have a delay to prevent m2 fakes.
make his reload time less and give him better addons, i know that if they do all this slinger would still get gen rushed to oblivion especially now with corrupt nerf but at least he won't be annoying to play.
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if survivors just sat on gens and never healed then legion would have nothing to make the game take longer i think the real problem are thana legions those ones do make it take longer but basekit legion is fine.
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only sometimes in custom never in ranked
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@luvcraft said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3044095#Comment_3044095
yup. See also Dredge's other perk that is about searching lockers, for the one killer who would never search a locker.
darkness revealed works very well on dredge, you get so much value by any aura perk on him and darkness revealed is one of his best. yes you have to search a locker for it but that's little effort for the value it gives to a killer that can cross a map in seconds and it can occasionally give you some locker grabs.
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who said it doesn't have to be earned? he gains nightfall by injuring, hooking and teleporting he can't just wait for it.
it doesn't require a genius to realize that dredge is pretty mediocre and the devs were too careful with him they added locks to hinder his teleport, they added a directional audio so you pretty much can always hear him and see him clearly in nightfall but you already claimed that bubba is op in another post so I can't really take you seriously lol.
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I can't just skip one side i like variety so i play both depending on my mood.
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@KweenPlease said:
Every killer has their own weak map. Bubba doesn't have one because Bubba is OP. IF he has ONE map he is a little strugglebus on, I think it's fine. You REALLY something to be mad about? Try playing nurse.
Ever played nurse at the ward? Not Lerys, the alternate one to the church I forget what it's called.
You can't blink through ANYTHING in that center section upstairs.
AM I MAD? No. It's whatever. Nurse can wreck you on every other map. It's fine.
######### am i reading? not only did you call bubba op you also missed the whole point of the post it's talking about a bugged collision on a map and that needs fixing plus the main building is terrible to any killer without bamboozle and i am not even sure if bamboozle gonna help cuz it has like 3 god Windows it's stupid.
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you can deal with 2-3 nurse topics every while much easier than dealing with nurse players in your games. first is a bit annoying and the last is a miserable experience. in the end all these posts are aiming to make people's games more fun if the most broken perk in the game finally got changed after like 5 years of its existence then it's time for the most broken killer to get a change as well.
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i rather they focus on more problematic killers for now, next patch is already a good buff for m1 killers so how about we take a look at killers with unique and very fun powers that were left to rot for example deathslinger and twins. you can buff pig and trapper all you want but still m1 killers are boring and most rather play something like nemesis, pinhead, blight, nurse so the buffs won't increase their popularity much and all those except sadako (which her buffs may come soon) were already buffed and in a decent state (they could use some more if course but it should be for later)
but please please let's do something about twins and deathslinger
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glad i knew bhvr so well that i expected the reward to be so useless and advised people not to prestige and it turns out i was right to do so. what a way to reward your long time dedicated players.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3036989#Comment_3036989
https://deadbydaylight.fandom.com/wiki/Last_Standing
Pops up from time to time because Hackers use it. But it is very rare, because you get banned very, very quickly when using it.
oh wow, thanks for the info never heard of this one.
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what is last standing? sole survivor? left behind?
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do you think anyone gives a ######### about what's bad for nurse except nurse mains? she deserves every nerf she can get.
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@SweetTerror said:
Apologies as I know I've said this before, but I decided to give the Dredge another go, and in my second only match with him I secured just four hooks and 0 kills. All I'm trying to do is practice, and this is the second match in a row where I've gone against survivors with full on gen rushing builds. Everyone brought cakes too, and despite that the match lasted only minutes. Seriously, nightfall only happened one time because that's how fast the match went! I secured the least amount of blood points out of everyone too.
Simply put, this isn't fun, and until BHVR incorporates their own practice mode I'm done trying new killers. I'm a casual gamer at best, so my heart goes out to any new players because they sure as hell don't have it easy. Being thrown into the deep end when you don't know how to swim makes for a horrible learning tool.
yeah i don't think that feature will help you as much as you think, the best thing playing against bots could do is realize how a killer power works (but not how to use it effectively) or if you wanna test smth real quick and don't wanna wait for someone to queue with you in custom but other than that it ain't gonna help you get better cuz bots will be dumb 100% lol.
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it didn't use to be this way this happened months ago and they still didn't fix it.
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looping is fun for both sides the possible outplays, the clever use of your power as killer and your game knowledge as a survivor is what makes things interesting, it just stops being fun for killer when survivors get the most broken maps.
maps should be balanced which i hope becomes something the devs pay attention to in the future and this upcoming patch makes me hopeful.
believe it or not if the upcoming patch is done right this could be the best time to play killer.
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@Murgleïs said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3027473#Comment_3027473
I play all killers. Show us your winstreak if she is "easy mode".
why show you mine when there are a few nurse mains who stream on twitch bragging about their 200+ winstreak with her in their titles.
once you suffer through the losses as a beginner nurse and actually become decent with her everygame literally becomes easy mode.
i don't think those losses you had to suffer through at the beginning justify the existence of this killer.
and it definitely doesn't justify how bhvr keeps buffing the strongest killer in the game, first they give her a 3 blink addon and now they buff her ranged ones when most of the killers barely have a single good addon like ######### is that logic??
i think even if nurse was always allowed to be the strongest killer in the game that she shouldn't be toned down a bit and like other people mentioned, nerfing her addons and making her blinks count as a special attack would be a nice way to do it without gutting her.
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@Murgleïs said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3026628#Comment_3026628
Yes, I don't enjoy playing pallet breaking simulator for 5min.
and that's why you are so against nerfing her, cuz if you played any other killer that follows the game mecanics your lack of skill will show so you rather play easy mode lol.
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demo and oni before they ruined their music
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@TheDarkTyrant said:
You can still get some information from the perk if you use it with Dead Man's Switch. I know people do that now but with them combined you'll still know where people are because it'll be blocked. You may not know how many people but you do know people are there which is still gonna be very good in my opinion.
they won't work together no, read the nerf again
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at least after the meta nerfs trash nurses like those won't be able to stack these slowdowns anymore. if they down someone they'll lose corrupt, if they use ruin it'll be just 100% and they won't be able to use the pain res, dead man's combo efficiently.
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yes i wanted to make a post on this for so long, locker saves are disgusting and need to be changed i doubt the devs even know this something survivors do so i wanted to have a video of it first before i posted. and now with dredge they made double lockers so common in maps making this situation worse.
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yep, i wanted to make a post about how i felt about the changes but you pretty much said what most people wanted to say. minor disagreements from me on a couple things but otherwise well said 👏
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that is correct, i am hoping in the future when many of the major problems this game has gets fixed ( like what this midchapter is aiming for) the focus next will be on ######### map design.
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what other games? I can't see them
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good question.
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@Aurelle said:
Probably because they're not fun at all to go against. It's literally just Mending Simulator.
so it's nothing different from 99% of survivor gameplay where they just hold a button??