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@TAG said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1409253#Comment_1409253
I don't think Deathslinger is very good, but that's a different discussion altogether.
Either do I personally, but alot of people rate him, so I'm just going with the crowd.
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@TAG said:
While I do agree that we should wait until the PTB to know for sure, the Doc thing isn't a very good comparison as far as Hillbilly. Most of Doc's base kit tools were made stronger compared to his old version. The Billy change is a straight-up nerf; the question is "how much of nerf is it?"
Fair enough, although my main point of the post is: we've complained before trying things in the past and they've turned out fine in the end (Doctor and Deathslinger mainly). We should give it a chance before complaining
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And yet people said that he'd be rubbish before they even tried him.
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@JephKaplan said:
Same for legion when he got the 115 and the massive amount of "nerfs" that same patch. Killer mains will constantly complain about everything just like survivor mains, the game has 2 roles play both of them not just 1 role and then complain about everything regarding it. The game has to be fun for both sides and Billy requiring more skill is apparently gonna make him F tier cuz they don't wanna learn
Love the name
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Give it time. People said Doc was going to be horrible and looked how he turned out.
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Mandy said they can't say this up until the release of the PTB.
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@Dwinchester said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1409034#Comment_1409034
What are your stats?
My kill rate with Ruin across killers I main is 3.1k
My kill rate with PGTW is 2.8k
My kill rate without either is 2.1k
These are rounded numbers, and may be inaccurate as I may have forgotten to record certain data.
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@Booper_Of_Snoot said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1408610#Comment_1408610
Everyone called the nurse change bad and stupid.
They tried it
Called the nurse change bad and stupid.
I think a good bit of people have decent foresight
People called Doctors changes dumb and stupid.
Tried it.
People found it great.
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@Gamekeeper said:
I like how the devs even said they nerfed gearhead so it has a counterplay and yet this new lightborn has 0 coutnerplay besides dropping the flashlight for a new item
You work on gens every game. You don't use a flashlight every game.
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@Dwinchester said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1408981#Comment_1408981
I'm a garbage Billy player, it takes more skill than you think.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1408993#Comment_1408993
Ruin is trash. People don't even care enough to cleanse it any more, which is sad for a hex perk.
My stats would like to argue with you.
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@DwightOP said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1408610#Comment_1408610
Yeah ofc we all have the right to complain. But I guarantee you that NOTHING is going to change. It's basically already set in stone but once it's out they will NOT role back no matter how many people will send feedback and complain.
Well we will have to see. You have the right to complain when you've genuinely experienced it, not just seen a short clip of it.
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How about we go back to memory lane when they changed toolboxes and balanced infinites.
People are complaining a bit early though.
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To be fair, Ruin turned out for the better imo. They know the game more than most of us do.
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We will have to wait and see. From the pattern so far, it works great when the killer has side abilities.
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Indifferent because I'm yet to test them out.
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@Peanits said:
It won't be in this upcoming PTB, no. It's on the long list of things we'd like to do, but when we'll get a chance to squeeze it in is hard to say.
Glad to hear you and the team want to work on a ton of stuff that are already ig. Makes me wonder what's next.
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@Warcrafter4 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1408610#Comment_1408610
Yes and last time they pulled a stun like this it as to the nurse and people said the same thing...
Guess what happened?
And people were right to judge it once it came out.
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Don't assume something is going to be bad until you try it.
Don't like it after you try it? You have the right to complain, but wait until you try it.
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Try it out first, then you have every right to complain.
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@fairfieldisms said:
The Danganronpa franchise!
Looks cool and seems like it has great reviews! ๐
But it's not for the Xbox... ๐ญ
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By this logic Nea was taken by the entity from the future.....
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@not_Queen may know this, although she may not be able to say it.
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@Ihatelife said:
@not_Queen With the upcoming updates to billy and bubba, does that also mean that they both are gonna have their own chase music? ๐
This is what I want to know.
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@DrDeepwound said:
Watching the Hillbilly video they provided showing the overheat, I dont like it.
Does nurse over heat blinking too much?
Well technically speaking...
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1407616#Comment_1407616
Of course there is. Hillbillys Change does not look that bad to be honest. I am curious about the Add Ons, even tho, I expect Crack Billy and Insta Saw to be gone.
Most likely, although we'll have to wait and see.
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@MadArtillery said:
Not sure the hillbilly changes were needed to his basekit. Leatherface and all the perk changes look great. Was knockout always basic attack only though?
Tinker was already a fav of mine so it's buff seems grand.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it was any attack up until the change.
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@not_Queen said:
Can't wait for all of you to get your hands on PTB and give us even more feedback! We'll also have a Q&A next week so keep an eye out for it.
Shame I can't play it, but can't wait to see others play it!
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@Aven_Fallen said:
The forums will be full of tears until everyone realized that they are not that bad. Of course there will be the usual "Leatherface is OP now" Threads.
There's already one about Hillbilly ๐ฌ
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@IronKnight55 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1406806#Comment_1406806
I play on Xbox and I get at least 2-3 moris a day in my games (sometimes more). Maybe it's because I main shirtless David, though... ๐ค lol
Do you tend to bring items by any chance?
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Decided I'd add a comment rather than out it in the post.
I think Cannibals changes sound great. He's no longer a killer who primarily focuses on camping, and now seems much more dangerous in the chase with the speed boost and the ability to 'end your ability early'.
As for Hillbilly, I'm yet again glad he got an add on rework. All of his add ons were hit or miss and he really needed these. His base kit change however seems very...controversial. Obviously we'll have to see how it plays out.
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Took me about 700 hours to get all perks as teachables, although during that time I did P3 50 Claudette, P2 Ghostface and spent a ton of bp in Billy, so take that time with a grain of salt.
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@brokedownpalace said:
This might blow your mind but Legion consists of multiple characters
Wait...
So you're telling me it isn't 4 people that are all the same!?!?!?
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Pyramid Head would be Average Games. I made this prior to PH so that is why he's not there.
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@bm33 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1406806#Comment_1406806
I can't imagine going that long without facing an ebony. Maybe for some reason killers don't get as many in xbox? ๐
I'm honestly not sure, I'm just glad I don't.
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@DrDeepwound said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1407192#Comment_1407192
Why no clown? He is better as chasing than quite a few of those.
Whoops, missed him, will edit that now.
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@Komodo16 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1407178#Comment_1407178
See there you go if you look at it in that light you will never understand anything and its close minded and its only efficient if you have potato survivors a killer unless really good cannot 4k with tunneling consistently also its efficient to gen rush yet that is annoying and needs to be dealt with as well but hey it seems that people who are close minded only care for their opinion
Mate, I've played Rank 1 at both sides. Killing someone as quick as possible is the most efficient way to play. Dealing with three people is much easier than four. It's basic logic.
Why would I avoid killing a guy who's one hit, and go for a guy who's yet to be hooked and is healthy instead?
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Clown gets Great chase potential btw.
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Ima make tier list
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@Komodo16 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1407165#Comment_1407165
Its scummy because it is unfair and you get a guaranteed kill with no skill involved while ruining someone elses time. That is just downright s cummy and a tactic only bad killers need to do
Still don't get how a killer killing someone efficiently is considered scummy.
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Well what do you enjoy more? Watching Stranger Things or playing Silent Hill?
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@Respectfulnancymain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1406981#Comment_1406981
Didnt billy get his "animation" change around the time infintes were removed?
Billy has felt wierd since then
Not exactly sure what happened or when, all I know is that it ######### me up so now I don't play Billy.
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@hahadrillgobrrr said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1406956#Comment_1406956
Are you talking about the changes that happened earlier when DS was released? Because I started a month ago so those changes didn't affect me.
I swear there has been a much more recent change. I could be wrong, but ever since I'd say a month a bit back, Hillbilly hasn't felt right to me.
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@hahadrillgobrrr said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1406874#Comment_1406874
Really? I haven't noticed anything different playing Billy except for that chainsaw sound doesn't bug anymore.
I've gone from being a great Billy to giving up... I'm not great at adapting to be fair.
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Tomorrows topic will be about how the Shrine of Secrets is killer biased and clearly needs a nerf to only give one killer perk.
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They felt that the active durations on the perk were too long and therefore gave too much information. They also wanted to provide the survivors with a way to counter the perk by hitting great skill checks.
That's what I found on one of Fibijean's posts about the Q&A stream.
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I'll be back with the awnser in a minute as to why they changed it. It was on the Q&A stream.
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@CrowFoxy said:
What changes were made to Billy? They weren't mentioned in balance patch notes.
@handfulofrain said:
Can someone briefly explain what happened?
I believe the camera was zoomed in a bit more or moved forward, meaning that you have a different angle removing alot of muscle memory that you once had.
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@bm33 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1406773#Comment_1406773
I had 3 today. Two of the killers used them on death hook, one would tunnel off first hook. Red rank on ps4, run into them daily, always appreciate the killers that use them on death hook.
That may be something to do with PS4, as I play Xbox. Unless I forgot to fill something in I haven't experienced an ebony in over 50 games.
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On survivor and killer I personally use 100%.
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@Sylorknag said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1405815#Comment_1405815
Man, I wish I had your ratio, mine is like 3/5 against a really sweat SWF team.
I play console so that might effect it.

