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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1501608#Comment_1501608
Equip the perk if you want its effects, it's even easier.
I always use it, but you can't do anything if the killer camper and 2-3 survs don't use it. Probably you can finish a gen, but the game is then 4gens with 3 survs. And then again the same strategy.
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@xenofon13 said:
No. To be honest i never slug for the 4k unless the team were annoying clicky clicky, teabags, the usual stuff.
4k in about 60% i would say.
Because i love billy doesn't mean that i'm a god tier killer 4k 9-10 times.
Of course i have bad games.
And do you think 4k in 60% is fair? Do you think this is a 2k average?
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1501581#Comment_1501581
I hear you, it sucks when you lose to strategies you don't know how to counter. Fortunately, you can learn how to counter them.
I have 2.500 hours as surv, I know the strategies. And camper/tunnel is what makes this game miserable. So many selfish killers out there.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1501593#Comment_1501593
Go work on gens and don't suicide on the hook. Bite the bullet for once. Stop making camping worthwhile for killers.
Well, make kindred base kit and this will happen. Easy
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@Ghost_Face_Main said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1501588#Comment_1501588
Even a Cypress Mori? By far that's the only one that is balanced. The others I can understand perfectly.
Even this one if we don't know which mori do you have. We can't know if you'll kill us as soon as someone unhooks us.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1501565#Comment_1501565
Penalties for camping* were tried and abused by survivors.
*Face camping doesn't exist any more, just FYI.
Yes, because camping is not abused by killers
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Moris are never fair. And I have never been moried since 2018
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@andyollolloll said:
Can we create a pool so all these DC dbd players can play together?
I block dodgy DC penalty players so to check each lobby never to play with them again
Same for campers/tunnelers. I don't want to play with them again. Why can't we do it BHVR? Why I have to play against the same killer another match when I know how he wants the 4k?
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@xenofon13 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1501534#Comment_1501534
Same as before, nothing changed.
Like i said, i was always a steering billy with no charge decrease add ons.
My old billy add ons: Moonshine, Light chassis.
New billy: Spiked boots, Low kickback chains.
So 90% of times?
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@EmpireWinner said:
It's a strategy, a bad one. It only works if survivors fall for it. Do gens
If your team loses to camping, you're all garbage
It was a bad strategy too 3/4 survs in the same gen, and BHVR nerfed it anyway.
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@Sonzaishinai said:
Biggest reason i would say is that every thing they tried to do against it has been abused by the playerbase.
And seeing how it is a autolose for the killer i don't see why they should waste energy finding a solution.
A true camper rarelly happens in my experience
Guy, you can play against 10-15 russian campers in a row easily
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@xenofon13 said:
His chase music is AWESOME.
Also i love the roar when sprinting, somehow it give me energy!
I never was a crack billy so i never overheat. I'm a steering billy.
My addons are spiked boots and low kickback chains. Feels great!
How many times you 3-4k now?
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@shalo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1501434#Comment_1501434
Killers can't see your perks, who told you they could?
items, sorry
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@noxy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1500995#Comment_1500995
it honestly just gives people an unfair advantage that the other side cant do anything about
And it's not and unfair advantage that the killer can see survs and their perks and we can't see the killer?
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@LunarMess said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1501133#Comment_1501133
Yea, it seems that if 1 survivor dies but the rest escape, the killer is bad to those 3, but the one that died thinks the killer is overpowered. Its typical confirmation bias, mixed in with being mad that you couldnt escape a game where not all 4 are supposed to escape.
It seems that you play against a 4SWF squad and only 3k. And the killer cry because he can't 4k
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@AVoiceOfReason said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1501085#Comment_1501085
It's a PVP game. A killer shouldn't have to do this and this and that to make another side happy before they can kill them. If you want to fix gen rush and problems with people trying to remove someone quickly (tunneling) then make it so after each hook and the killer leaves, all gens are blocked from survivors for 25 seconds. It gives a killer a chance to find and down another survivor and allows the hooked survivor a safe unhook without the pressure of being removed from the game so early.
Relieves a lot of pressure on the killer so he/she doesn't feel rushed and it evens out the flow of the game. Trying to remove something that is efficient in a pvp game is not something someone will agree to normally. If COD made it so you couldn't camp a corner for that last 2-3 kill nuke, it just wouldn't be COD. They use an MMR system also. Removing a play style or forcing someone to play how another wants isn't a pvp anymore because one side is being forced to play a certain way.
Guy, this is a videogame, not a platform for people that need to feel strong in a videogame because they can't in their real lifes. Everyone deserve to have fun, not to 4k
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guy, really you are asking this in a killer forum? What do you expect?
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Agree. And since campers and tunnelers are so common, why DS and BT are not basekit too?
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So now survs scream if they failed the BNP skill check? This is new in this patch?
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If she has Iri Head ######### in the first hook and gl next match
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@BaldursGate2 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1495480#Comment_1495480
With "we" you mean only yourself. I see Freddy like never in red ranks and even if i did, i like him more than doc, spirit or nurse.
Not only him
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@MusicNerd_TC said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1495646#Comment_1495646
They don't know that windows exist
And MoM had a lot of counterplay too: hit again.
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@Katee_Main said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1495572#Comment_1495572
I think everyone can agree that freddy on every platform is OP.
Not in these forums
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DC during the loading screen. End of the problem
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@tomas11403 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1495525#Comment_1495525
there are a lot of variables that go into this. Firstly, when the game spawns in as ormond, the survivors gain an advantage. It’s unfortunate, but some maps are unbalanced in their current state. Next, if the 4 survivors are all in a swf, that is an extra advantage. On top of that, if they are 4 optimal survivors who can all loop well and just do gens rather than heal and hide, that hurts the killer even more. The final straw would be if you are playing someone like clown or other weak killers (without crazy addons) there is just no way you can keep up with the pace they set
And what about 4 solos in hawkings against freddy?
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@ClickyClicky said:
Its because their forums are incredibly killer sided and this has been known for years and reading them day in, day out I think its affected the judgement of the balance team.
Obviously some complaints are valid but there’s definitely a push towards easier victories with less skill on the killer side.
This ^
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@tomas11403 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1495313#Comment_1495313
Ok. I was just reading through this and wasn’t going to bother saying anything. I have around 1.5k hours playing dbd on ps4 probably about 2/3 of that as killer. Firstly, for the people saying ps4 survivors aren’t nearly as good as pc ones, that is both right and wrong. I would say your average ps4 survivor is more of a potato than an average pc survivor, but I promise you, the very best ps4 survivors can loop just as efficiently as anyone else, and do in fact have enough brain cells to do gens. As for the part about killer being to easy, I was wondering what your experience was like in terms of time played until I saw you say OOO is a meme perk. OoO is arguably the strongest survivor perk, it can be used to gain so much distance on a killer that it makes every chase 10x harder (obviously there are exceptions). You also clearly haven’t played against a top tier efficient swf on ormond (emphasis on efficient and top tier), because it just isn’t realistically possible to win as pig or gf. Sorry for the rant, but this thread just pissed me off
So, you can't 4k with a bad killer in ormond against a top tier SWF and this is supposed to be a problem? Because if pig can 4k easily again this survs every killer is 4k every game
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I can tell you what killers want... make eboni memento mori basekit
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@IceCreamPrincess said:
Its not that the game has a 2/2 split every match, or an average of that. Instead thats more the goal of balance. Ultimately once you reach your peak, you should be playing against people of your skill level, and either drawing or "winning" as much as you are "losing"
Of courses, we're not yet at that level in the game, with the matchmaking not being as good as it can be. But thats the end goal
Well, usually I play against 5-6 camper russian -> 4k every game. Then the matchmaking put me against a rank 10 killer. Usually 1k. And then campers again and so on. So in average, 3-4k
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@Roobnus said:
I experienced the exact opposite. I ranked from 20 to 5 in about 10 hours as Survivor. The funny thing is that in 2016/2017 when I still played a lot of DbD I never even reached rank 10 survivor at all, it's weird as ######### lol. No Ruin so we just push through gens and run some loops, that basically gives you already at least a safety pip.
Survs ranks up so fast because other way there were no survs in 1-5 ranks. That's why it's more difficult to rank up as killer, so you don't see all killers in rank 1-5
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@Roobnus said:
That makes sense because I only see games with 0-1k (10%-90%) which ultimately leads to ~50% escape rate.
So, thanks for being a potato so we can troll the hell out of Killers while still keeping the average escape numbers somewhat low.
:-*
Well, record a video please
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This game is always 4k against solo, and swf can be 1-4k
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Being killers is so easy now the only way to have fun is against SWF squads. Also Cannibal now is a killer machine
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You're supposed to 2k on average, not at least 2k everygame. This was a bad game, and you 1k
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Guy, in Europe you can play 15-20 games in a row against campers. That's worse
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@CashelP14 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1492066#Comment_1492066
I'm just saying this because it makes sense. They normally can't make changes to both sides because there isn't much the community can agree on being equal.
However 9/10 of the community agree that both keys and moris are equal. The fact that Peanits mentioned keys are also being looked at is a sign to me they know this.
It isn't slowing down progress asking for keys and moris to be nerfed at the same time. It's just common sense. If they waited 3 months or even a month and a half between these nerfs your just asking for trouble.
Mori and keys are not the same. Imagine a surv finishing a gen, and automatically he escape. This is the same as a mori.
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@vector said:
and yes survs want free/easy victory thats why they dc in the beggining, they rarely do it in the mid game/late game
but if you hook someone in first 20-3 0 secons or simply put a surv in dying state he leaves
if he fails somehow he leaves (dropped pallet on a wrong side etc)
it has nothing to do with fun this is a typical behavior of a leaver in any game
I remember you that a surv that wants and easy victory is 1 surv escape. killers want easy 4k, and they getting it
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Remove campers and tunnelers. End of the toxicity in the game
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@jrosedaily1966 said:
I have said for a long time that moris and keys are unfair. They cut the games short. Getting rid of both would level the playing field a little better. Then killers would have to work for their win abs survivor have to work for their exit.
Guy, killers don't need to work for nothing, they only need to camper or tunnel a bit to 4k. And I'm not talking about a good freddy. You need a SWF team of 16 survivors to win against a good freddy. And win for survivors is 1 escape, not 4
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@JHondo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1491677#Comment_1491677
You have to define tunneling to me, because a lot of people will claim "Tunneler" when it isn't. I see it from both sides too. Playing killer I get called tunneler when it's been two hooks since I last downed the person claiming I tunneled them, as Survivor my friends will claim the killer is tunneling when I see they aren't through aura reading perks and paying attention to the health states of my team. In all actuality tunneling isn't as big of a thing as so many mains claim it is. Proxy camping is a bit of an issue but running kindred I can see it's because there are two other people near the hook not being nearly as stealthy as they think they are.
Also, bully squads that make it a point to stun the killer as much as possible aren't advancing the objective at all in a game that is in their hands to move it along whereas a killer that is doing everything in their power to secure a kill is making the game move along so you can go on to the next match, not keeping you hostage.
A killer patrolling 10m from the hook looking at you waiting for the unhook so he can hit you again. In other words, a russian killer
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@JHondo said:
It's kinda funny though, Survivors constantly DC when there is no penalty but the only times I've even considered it as a killer is when I'm up against a bully squad that just wants to back to back pallet stun, head on, and flashlight blind instead of playing the game. Even then I don't DC, I go to the basement and stand facing a corner so they can't continue to bully me and are forced to do gens and escape.
"... when I'm up against a bully squad that just wants to back to back pallet stun, head on, and flashlight blind instead of playing the game.." This is the same as camper/tunnelers. But you can find it 10 games in a row perfectly.
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@Dead_by_Gadfly said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1491171#Comment_1491171
I hope you stub your toe every day day for the next 6 years
I prefer that than a mori :D
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Surv DC because of campers and tunnelers
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NOED increases 4% the movement speed
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This way freddy will need about 40-50 to find a game
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@Justalittlepeeck said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1491176#Comment_1491176
Go ahead. If survivors going against him aren't COMPLETELY stupid and have at least more IQ than a wooden chair, than it should take them no more than 1-2 games dying to such playstyle to never let it work again. If they have IQ equal to an ordinary human being, capable of thinking about consequences, they are going to leave that clown with 1k or even 0k if he doesn't catch anyone (50 iq, remember) on first try.
Well, record a video against a rank 1 leatherface and show us, please. I want to know your IQ
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@clem1710 said:
Devs made everything to make the game easier for survivors : nurse and spirit nerf, ruin nerf, dedicated servers (rip grabs), etc. These days any team can genrush a killer by pressing M1 and dropping some pallets. No skill is needed, so survivors have easy wins and spend money in the game. That's how BHVR get money. And that's why they will never nerf SWF and other broken things
Well, record a video with your friends in rank 1-5 against a nurse/freddy/spirit and show us how easy you escape. I'm willing to see it.
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@burt0r said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1489221#Comment_1489221
They are often altruistic as hell and don't really aim for the escape but to show their superiority over the killer.
Do you know survivors play to have fun too? We help other because we have fun (non selfish thought) not to show you anything (selfish thought), we're no thinking about you.
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@Peanits said:
Moris are on the list to be changed at some point, but I can't any details or dates just yet.
(Before any asks, yes, keys are too. That's not what this thread is about.)
Please, give moris the same love you gave to MoM
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@Yamaoka said:
Translation: "this killer can't be looped for 5 gens anymore please nerf!"
Translation. I wanted 4k 100 games in a row without perks and addons