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I've already gotten the Kate thing but I don't own her still rip. I still have like 45 or so offering on 1 survivor and throw them out to help others get bp as well as event stuff. I don't need it the gens but I want others to get some stuff too and I'll offer myself for the bbq hook if killer is cool.
I'll do killer side eventually and try and do same thing there. as well.
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@SovererignKing said:
You have got to be kidding me...
YOU literally created the Straw Man. Tulsan said “According to Survivor Mains” then you called semantics and changed it to YOU have had plenty of matches being “facecamped.” Then you got upset and called it a Straw Man Fallacy when he said it was a you problem if you get “facecamped” every single match. You changed it from “Survivor Mains” TO YOU. You’re getting upset for Tulsan attacking a Strawman YOU CREATED. YOU twisted what he said about Survivor Mains TO yourself.
Literally just telling you, you’re making an ass of yourself because you can’t even realize you started the Strawman in the first place. I’m not trying to insult you, I’m telling you to stop before you make an even bigger ass of yourself.
I’ll agree to disagree on the Marth subject as well.
Seriously man, I’m not being a dick here. I’m just saying you changed Tulsan’s “Survivor Mains” to yourself and created the Strawman and then got upset when Tulsan attacked it. You made an ass of yourself by creating the Strawman in the first place. Then tried to cover it saying Tulsan twisted it, when it was you who twisted it. I said you made an ass of yourself and called it stupid when you didn’t realize you’re the one who started the Strawman by changing the subject of “Survivor Mains” TO YOU.
We'll agree to disagree on some things then since Tsulan and I already sorted things out. Some of what was said got crossed over form other posts and it became one big clusterfeck. Oh and go read this thread for some good laughs we all had.
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@Tsulan said:
@powerbats said:
@Tsulan said:
Not going to answer to the whole comment right now. Maybe later.
So I represent the whole killer community?
Cool, I shall declare world peace and free donuts for everyone! Oh wait, we have a BBQ event going on. So free steaks for everyone!No you don't if you got that from what i said then I apologize for not being clearer.
Since you took your time to write this tiny answer, could you also take your time and point out where I insult others? I'm not a saint, but I never resort to insults. So stop claiming that I insult and stop presenting me as the killer league leader. Or whatever you think this is.
You do insult but perhaps don't realize it and that last post was a pretty glaring example of it. But then I was just as bad for doing the same.
I really don't look for a fight. But you seem to take this personally. Maybe take a break and reflect if it's worth it to get upset about it.
We both kinda took this too far and for that I apologize since sometimes I get carried away as well.
We share the same hobby and passion. We both know that this game can be incredible addicting and frustrating at the same time. It's unique in it's way. Can't we try to get along and discuss like adults without resorting to insults and personal vendettas?
We can and we should, it'll probably take some time similar to how it took me to get used to @Lowbei and @RemoveSWF.
So ignore the response in the other thread.
Good, now we can go back to normal.
I really enjoy arguing on the internet and defend my point. Sometimes i might unknowingly get carried away.No hard feelings. Have a nice day.
Same for me as well and did you see the fat character response just now from someone lulz. I did add something to the Amanda part that's pretty funny.
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@wolflinkin said:
Why is this even a topic!?Why ask why just don't drink Bud Dry.
Besides which we need to have some laughs sometimes instead of being all serious and insulting each other non stop.
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@Tsulan said:
@powerbats said:
@Tsulan said:
@powerbats said:
Instead of DS he just outweighs the killer and crushes them underneath him. Since the killer is incapacitated all gens instantly get done and everyone walks out alive. This after giving the killer last rites due to being crushed to death and unable to do any more trials.I´m just imaging poor Freddy or Hag...
But can you imagine poor Amanda trying to pick him up for a hook?
Oh #########, forgot totally about Amanda.
I just can´t get the image out of my head, where the fat survivor is laying on top of the tiny killer who can´t move.I added in something even funnier to that quote lol
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@Tsulan said:
@powerbats said:
Instead of DS he just outweighs the killer and crushes them underneath him. Since the killer is incapacitated all gens instantly get done and everyone walks out alive. This after giving the killer last rites due to being crushed to death and unable to do any more trials.I´m just imaging poor Freddy or Hag...
But can you imagine poor Amanda trying to pick him up for a hook or even worse has Sprint burst and runs over his own team mates instantly performing a mori on them lol.
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@Tsulan said:
@powerbats said:
@Tsulan said:
My proposal for the next event: make every gen and hook special. So people can play normal instead of being forced to take 3 perks they usually wouldn't equip.Hooks shouldn't be subject to sabotage sabotage during events ever. I'm not sure how to make gens special since the killer still needs to damage them for bp and to slow progression some. Perhaps make all gens by default special or add special totems that can be done as well or in lieu of gens.
That´s what i said.
I was simply agreeing with you but also adding to what you said. I'd posted something similar in another thread by a different poster.
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@Tsulan said:
@powerbats said:
@Tsulan said:
I understand that you are pissed because I destroyed you in the other thread. But THIS is your best comeback?
Sure honey, people equipping DS and Sabotage in the lobby is clearly caused by my unique and recognizable ping.Try again. You can do better than that, can you?
Don't kid yourself you didn't destroy me in the least and you know it since I posted exactly what was said. I then posted what you posted to prove I never said what you said I did. I also used the exact same logic you did to insult me and guess what you didn't like it go figure. So the only person you destroyed in that other thread is yourself.
Since we're on the try again category why not try reading what was posted versus what you said i posted then you' won't destroy yourself again. You can do better than to so blatantly post stuff that wasn't true for ocne can't you?
I didn´t destroy you. But you sure feel the need to go after me in several threads because you are superior...
Sure mate. Whatever you say.Remember i said i don´t want to start a fight over this.
Consider this a peace offer.Ignore that response I already had responded to you in the other thread and had come back to edit this one you just posted about lol.
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@Tsulan said:
Not going to answer to the whole comment right now. Maybe later.
So I represent the whole killer community?
Cool, I shall declare world peace and free donuts for everyone! Oh wait, we have a BBQ event going on. So free steaks for everyone!No you don't if you got that from what i said then I apologize for not being clearer.
Since you took your time to write this tiny answer, could you also take your time and point out where I insult others? I'm not a saint, but I never resort to insults. So stop claiming that I insult and stop presenting me as the killer league leader. Or whatever you think this is.
You do insult but perhaps don't realize it and that last post was a pretty glaring example of it. But then I was just as bad for doing the same.
I really don't look for a fight. But you seem to take this personally. Maybe take a break and reflect if it's worth it to get upset about it.
We both kinda took this too far and for that I apologize since sometimes I get carried away as well.
We share the same hobby and passion. We both know that this game can be incredible addicting and frustrating at the same time. It's unique in it's way. Can't we try to get along and discuss like adults without resorting to insults and personal vendettas?
We can and we should, it'll probably take some time similar to how it took me to get used to @Lowbei and @RemoveSWF.
So ignore the response in the other thread.
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Yeah in those cases that's holding the game hostage and they need a ban for a day at least.
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@Tsulan said:
My proposal for the next event: make every gen and hook special. So people can play normal instead of being forced to take 3 perks they usually wouldn't equip.Hooks shouldn't be subject to sabotage sabotage during events ever. I'm not sure how to make gens special since the killer still needs to damage them for bp and to slow progression some. Perhaps make all gens by default special or add special totems that can be done as well or in lieu of gens.
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@Tsulan said:
I understand that you are pissed because I destroyed you in the other thread. But THIS is your best comeback?
Sure honey, people equipping DS and Sabotage in the lobby is clearly caused by my unique and recognizable ping.Try again. You can do better than that, can you?
Don't kid yourself you didn't destroy me in the least and you know it since I posted exactly what was said. I then posted what you posted to prove I never said what you said I did. I also used the exact same logic you did to insult me and guess what you didn't like it go figure. So the only person you destroyed in that other thread is yourself.
Since we're on the try again category why not try reading what was posted versus what you said i posted then you' won't destroy yourself again. You can do better than to so blatantly post stuff that wasn't true for ocne can't you?
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I won't sabo teh hooks unless the killers a toxic jerk which all the Billy's so far seem to be. I mean 5 bbq offerings and they go only for further than bbq hooks. Although speaking of toxic killers just had a toxic Leatherface that only went after the event gens and camped.
I always try and farm on both sides during the vents even when during this one I've got the Kate outfit but still have 52 offerings just on 1 survivor.
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@loveleh said:
@Tsulan said:
@loveleh said:
I personally think he is wrong, i mean just connect the dots, killers have too much op perks and yes removing noed and insidious would help.. but survivors don't have a lot of op perks, no i'm not denying that survivors don't have op perks and no i'm not fighting for 'giving survivors more op perks' but killers are mostly op in this game, and no one does anything about it.. maybe you never noticed this but true always complains about survivors and how they are either op or something else while not mentioning killers.. killers can run perks that make it literal hell to play, then complain about dc-ing.. anyways just wanted to say that yes he is right that survive with friends can 'be #########' and yes noed, decisive, and insidious would help balance match making and just generally make it a better game to play. FiT3 mE iF y0U wANt T0 ¯_(ツ)_/¯Good joke!
Make another one!Bill is one of the most useful survivors in dead by daylight!
I thought it was David King running around in full view of the killer while using No Mither.
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
No basement, no pro plays.
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@Nickenzie said:
Hug each other!
You sir win the day so in response i give you this token of my gratitude.
Yes survivors are the power role right now which brings up an interesting idea. 1 Survivor as the killer versus 4 killers as the survivors.
The trapper could lay traps to slow the survivor chasing them but he'd have a limit to how many he could carry with no addons.
The Hag could just teleport away but would have no addons either and only 10 traps also.
The Nurse would have 10 blinks.
Myers would be able to stalk to see where the survivor is coming from, but only 10 times at x range.
Billy could charge across the map 10x.
Leatherface could clobber the survivor with his mallet 10 x and stun them.
The pig could just crouch and stealth off.
The Wraith could just cloak and try and skulk away.
The Doctor could cast illusions of himself 10x that can run off in different directions 1x per cast.
The Huntress could Lullaby to distract the survivor and disorient them during chases.
Freddy could put them to sleep for a few seconds after putting them into dream world basically making him the obsession but not letting the survivor see any of the other killers.
Crap forgot the Clown.
The clown could throw bottles at the survivor chasing them to slow them down. He'd get 10 charges also.
You could even use some of the killer perks like Bitter Murmur to see where the survivor is etc lol.
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Why does Sir Mix A lot suddenly come to mind here.
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@SovererignKing said:
powerbats said:We do rebut your points. You just sit there and and call every rebuttal a “Logical Fallacy”, and when you can’t call it that, you say “your twisting my words” as a deflection shield that you “meant something else by it” in order to cover your ass when you say something stupid.
Its like a child going “That’s f’in stupid” and their parents scolding them and they go “BUT I MEANT FREAKING!” When you know damn well what they meant to say.
Only one here with an ego is you. You can’t admit when you’re wrong, ever. Anytime someone disagrees with you it’s a “Logical Fallacy” and “twisting and distorting your words. Seriously, grow up and learn some humility.
No it's you that can't admit you're wrong but since you want to be made to look like an arse I'll prove it to you.
@powerbats said:
@Tsulan said:
According to survivor mains, standing 4 meters away from a hooked survivor = face camping.
Semantics doesn't change the fact the killer is still hook camping and I've had a lot of rank matches where the killer face camped me as in he was almost within my character model. So no that's not according to survivor mains that's according to people that regularly face killers that do in fact face camp.
Notice how I never stated anywhere I always get facecamped yet here we go with the Straw Man which is a logical fallacy.
@Tsulan said:
** If you keep getting face camped by every killer you meet, there might be a problem on your side. **
And judging from your aptitude on this forum, it might have to do something with your temper.
No offense, but it could be simply a YOU problem.Shocking I never said that yet there's the Straw Man right there which is a logical fallacy but you already knew that. So he didn't rebut my points nor did you nor was I wrong in saying he twisted my words. Now you go with the classic change your meaning insult to try and rebut my points.
So the only one trying to cover their ass when they say something stupid here is you.The posts are there in plain sight yet you just can't resist the urge to be a dick So that'd make you the one with the ego here because you just can't admit you tried to insult me and failed..
Now as far as never admitting when I'm wrong ever what are you smoking now? Since my apologies when given correct information are all over the forums. At the time I started playing the game I didn't know about camping being a legit strategy. It was @Lowbei I believe who posted the video from the devs talking about it.
Something that wasn't readily known by me and to this day newer players still don't know unless they're given the info. But hey lets not let facts get in the way of your assumptions and untruths here. When someone disagrees with me I don't call it a logical fallacy unless they actually use one.
When someone disagrees with me in a no biased way I'll have a discussion with them and try and see their point of view as they try and see mine. I get along really well with @Lowbei now as well as @Jack11803 , @RemoveSWF and several others. We don't always agree but we have some good discussions and trade the occasional insults and trash talk.
The one that needs to grow up and learn humility here is you. I've shown the posts which prove my points you just don't like that the posts prove my points. When I've made mistakes on here i've apologized and when I've crossed a line I've also apologized. Including to some of the very posters here who I sometimes have disagreements with.
I could continue to post quotes that prove my point but this thread is getting derailed enough as is. I shall just agree to disagree for now to not derail this further.
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@thrawn3054 said:
By definition every single perk and add on are crutches. I like TrueTalent, and he's welcome to his opinion, as is the OP. But like I said every perk is a crutch. (Aside from those that don't do anything useful)At least until they buff the useless perks thereby making them crutch perks.
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Instead of DS he just outweighs the killer and crushes them underneath him. Since the killer is incapacitated all gens instantly get done and everyone walks out alive. This after giving the killer last rites due to being crushed to death and unable to do any more trials.
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I was trying to think of something witty to add but my minds drawing a blank. Perhaps @Jack11803 can come to my rescue with one of his usual good responses.
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
Lowbei said:
Countfunkular said:@Lowbei
How is life on the inside. Was it scary as the story's told us. Please tell me that you didn't drop the decisive...nah its better on the inside. im going back in!
Thats what he said...
Shots fired, literally haha.
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Anti vaxxers and flat earthers should just be sent to space to live together preferably a very long way away. That way they can never ever contaminate anyone with their stupidity. They can be joined by all the idiots that peddle said conspiracy theories stuff.
Although whatever planet they got placed on would probably blow itself up due to all the contamination their idiocy would bring. That or aliens would destroy it to ensure the contamination didn't spread.
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@SovererignKing said:
Label everything as a “Logical fallacy” and say they are “twisting and distorting your words” when they really aren’t every time you back yourself into a corner and make a stupid comment. Never change Powerbats, it’s fun watching you make an ass out of yourself publicly.
Typical you're just as bad as he is when you can't rebut my points you resort to the same failed insults. You know I'm right but just like him you can't handle the truth. The only ones making asses out themselves are you 2 because it's easy to see what I said and what you both said I said are 2 different things.
There's also all my posts from other threads where I even talk about friendly killers and normal killers not camping me. You know like these gems where I had already posted way prior to the drivel you 2 are putting out.
**> @powerbats said:
Ok 1st 2 matches down
1st game Leatherface on Myers map and it was great, everyone got to do stuff, killer got 9 hooks since I let myself get sac'd for the 9th hook. It was overall really fun and some hilarity ensued when chainsaw hit more than the intended victim.2nd game- Typical Billy tryharding and never once despite him using offering did he go for a BBQ hook. In fact he went out of his way to avoid them and camped the 2 event gens. While he scored 47k BP that was due to my Bloody Party Streamers and 4 sacs. We didn't know he was tryharding until he showed his gameplay.
3rd Game was a Huntress on Lery's who was really cool and one person quit during loading screen. So she let us do our thing and she got 2 out of the 3 hook stacks but sadly the 3rrd person wouldn't let themselves get hooked.
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Well would you look at that 2 matches where the killer didn't face camp me nor hard camp or camp me at all. But it was said that I have an issue with getting face camped every match. so I must be the problem. could post plenty more examples but I don't want to run multiple pages showing how wrong you both are.I could also post where unlike you 2 I've bashed my fellow survivors for being jerks in game and post game. I've yet to see either one of you specifically call out toxic killers.
But go ahead and keep making yourselves look foolish by trying and failing to twist what i said just so you can inflate your egos with more failed insult attempts.
Lastly on threads where you're not jerks I agree with your points if their valid and even offer counter suggestions to help improve things.When you post a funny response I upvote and or even respond to it with something funny as well.
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As @Delfador said hooks should be immune to sabo similar to basement hooks and survivors should go after special totmes or something else entirely. There could be special totems that need to be cleansed instead of the gens or you could do either one. They'd each give you the same amount of points up to the max of 5 depending on offerings.
The killer would get a notification when someone started doing a special totem and would know where they're at similar to gens. That way both sides could get points and the totems would give the killer a chance to nail someone doing said totem(s).
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@Tsulan said:
Or furries...
There's nothing wrong with furies, in a platonic sort of way of course.
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@Tsulan said:
Killers predicted that it´s going to be the same as Howling Grounds and SURPRISE! It´s exactly as Howling Grounds!Survivors sabotaging and blocking the special hooks, which are surprisingly always at the other end of the map. Unless i equip Agitation and Iron Grip, most of the survivors will wiggle free, when i try to hook them a mile away from where i downed them.
I understand every killer who camps the event gens. I don´t camp neither the gens, nor the hooked survivors. I still get body blocked and sabotaged. Oh and 3-4 DS really bring a lot of joy for the killer!
Haven´t the devs learned from Howling Grounds? Do you really think this is an enjoyable experience for everyone?
Or is it (again) only about the survivors fun?I find it funny that you always blame it on survivors yet in not one single game and I've played well over 50 did a single survivor sabo a hook. That didn't start happening until the killers brought Mori's and ignored all BBQ hook to take someone to another hook further away.
When you get killers camping a hook a few steps away on a non BBQ hook and constantly smacking the survivor. Well guess what you're going to get what you deserve at that point.
I've had games where the killer said afterward they already had their tokens and they wanted to be jerks to survivors still trying to get theirs. I've had games where the killer did nothing but camp the event gens and would elt all the other gens be done.
Also I've seen exactly 5 survivors with DS and 3 used it on jerk killers who were acting like the above. You just magically seem to get these people.
If you're having this much trouble then as you said the problem IS YOU !!!!
It could also be that your region is filled with toxic jerks at that time of day or that the free event brings them out. It's also FTP during the event so again that brings out the jerks just like the double BP event did.
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@Nickenzie said:
Nice counter claim and rebuttal!
Ummn no and you know why it wasn't since if you'd read what I said you'd know he distorted what I said. But given your responses so far no surprising.
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@Tsulan said:
I play both killer and survivor equally. I rarely encounter a killer who insults (i can count the times on 1 hand). But i really often find survivors who insult the killer and their fellow teammates. If you constantly encounter killers which insult you, it might be a YOU problem. But who am i to judge?
I never anywhere said I constantly encounter killers which insult me but nice deflection just as i stated you'd do. So that'd mean I'm the problem here at all but you that keeps trying the logical fallacies. It's also a logical fact that since there's more survivors in a lobby then killers you'd get more chances of having a toxic survivor.
Please stop telling people to uninstall the game. This isn´t productive at all. And only makes those people leave, which aren´t really toxic. The trolls and toxic people won´t leave, because this is their playground.
I'm telling you and the other killers calling for strikes or insinuating it to uninstall the game and prove you're not going to play. I'm asking for those like several on here that've said they'll purposely play only survivor to screw over the rest of the community out of spite. The toxic ones are the ones claiming for strikes and or insinuating it and saying they'll screw the rest of the community over by doing the above. So that means that some of the good killers you speak of are in fact toxic.
I never called for strikes. Maybe you confuse me with someone else. But i sure as hell said, i´m gonna play survivor only for X reasons. Is this a crime? If it is, i´ve never been warned on this forum by the mods.
**I'm specifically referring to those who you keep saying good job, agree with and upvote them everytime they say that. There's one in this very forum and never once have you or anyone of the rest of you called them out on it. Also if you're only going to play survivor just to screw people over with longer queue times you're no different than the rest of the people calling for strikes.
Also whether you were warned or not is besides the point, the message got through loud and clear to stop calling for strikes. That was my point so now it's insulations of a strike or that killers are going to leave etc.**
To come back to the "nice and fair match" i just had a gen rush match. Survivors had all 5 gens done in less than 4 minutes. I didn´t camp or tunnel and only went for the event hooks. After they opened the gates they didn´t leave and started hiding around the map. This went on for over 20 minutes in which they just trolled me (3xDS). When they finally left they said "eeeeezzzzz" "gg ez" "baby killer".
Yeah, that was a really "nice and fair" match.So how often does that happen? Do you just magically always seem to get those types of matches so wouldn't that make you the problem as you said to me? I can count on 1 hand the amount f times it's happened to me. It's common sense that you'll get those types of matches and there's jerks in every community.
**You're also forgetting that every time there's an event the toxic jerks come out of the woodwork. Throw in FTP and it gets that much more worse. Have you already forgotten how bad it was during the double BP event last month during FTP? **
Regarding the face camping. Was there anything else to discuss? I NEVER EVER got face camped as survivor. I used to face camp very toxic survivors, when face camping was still a thing. But since hook blocking got removed for killers only (not for survivors, because reasons). I don´t bother at all.
If you keep getting face camped by every killer you meet, there might be a problem on your side.
And judging from your aptitude on this forum, it might have to do something with your temper.
No offense, but it could be simply a YOU problem.**Again with the deflections and distortions it's obvious you can't rebut my arguments and again go for the classic Logical Fallacy. I also find it hard to believe you've never ever been face camped once since everyone has been at least one. I also never ever said I always get facecamped but yet again the distortions of what I said continue.
So that'd mean I don't always get facecamped by every killer I meet since I've made plenty of friends with killers post game. I've been given props for being cool and been thanked for giving myself up for hooks to the killer. Ah yes the classic troll response I've come to expect more insults My aptitude is fine and I don't have anger issues but you seem to want to project badly.
But then it'd mean I'm not the problem but your incessant need to insult anyone that disagrees with you or points out flaws in your posts.**
Oh and adults can´t complain about a problem? So just swallow all the ######### and keep going on like nothing happend? That sure will solve the problem...
We are customers and paid for a product and a service. We have every right in the world to complain.If i missed something, please keep me updated. I´m happy to help you with any problem you might face.
Yes adults can complain about a problem but adults also don't throw out the non stop insults at those that disagree like you and the rest seem to do in almost every post. I agree with the right to complain but where I disagree is how you lot choose to complain.
You and the rest always insult survivors as if they're the ones causing the problems. Anyone that posts something you don't like gets blasted as a survivor main, biased or any of the other countless insults. When that doesn't work you try the logical fallacy route and distort what they said.
I agree with the need to buff killers and fix maps and have offered lots of suggestions on how to do things without breaking game balance. I advocated for the self care nerf because i thought it was needed and fair. I like the DS nerf and think they should add to it flashlight immunity for the killer during stun. (I'll explain that in another thread.)
I want them to remove pallets or at least really spread them out, I want more stealthy game play where there's no need for endless looping spots. What I want is a true horror game where killers have the power role but survivors have a chance to get out by playing smartly.
Lastly I'd like to see the insults and distortions and deflections stop just because someone doesn't like what's posted.
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The problem really boils down to maps, fix the maps you fix the gen rush. The game needs to be much more stealthy based with less safe spots to drop pallets/loop. But since there's not lots of places to be super stealthy and Doctor/Nurse negate it.
The current issue is that without the safe spots it's see a survivor=hooked survivor very quickly with no counterplay. If they could change it to be more los breakers with multiple ways to evade the killer and perhaps only 1-2 pallets per small map and 5-6 on really large maps but super spread out. The same for windows/vault locations.
One change they could make now without having to completely redesign maps is for the great looping spots and only those spots. They could add a speed boost that decays provided you're hugging that edge say for example the sac tree on ColdWind. If you're going around it more than x times in a short duration then any of the 4 outside corners would give you x boost for x seconds.
But only when hugging the corners to prevent just doing that even after a survivor leaves to get a mega boost. This would still allow some limited looping to break los for a get away attempt while also giving killers a chance in those spots.
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@Tsulan said:
@powerbats said:
@Tsulan said:
According to survivor mains, standing 4 meters away from a hooked survivor = face camping.
Semantics doesn't change the fact the killer is still hook camping and I've had a lot of rank matches where the killer face camped me as in he was almost within my character model. So no that's not according to survivor mains that's according to people that regularly face killers that do in fact face camp.
I find it curious, how survivors insult even after a nice and fair match without camping. But complain about campers, when killers are fed up with all the insults.
So when killers insult survivors after a nice and fair match because they didn't get 4k with camping. But complain when survivors call them out on it after they did it with no gens even being done. See the rampant hypocrisy here, you same killers post the same thing over and over again oh woe is me. You didn't even bother trying to answer my post but yet instead went with the classic logical fallacy argument.
Then several post later we see the same tired drivel and true post from you and some others. Just fing uninstall the game and leave already. Most of the community including a lot of your fellow killers on here are sick and tired of the crybaby attitude.
You lot keep thinking the game will die, it won't and people will adapt just as they do in other regions when there's an imbalance on one side. The reason you won't is because then you'll realize your threats and insuations are meaningless. You're not irreplaceable anymore than anyone else is and people come and go all the time.
But if you stay and follow through on the threat to only play survivor side we'll see what you're really like then. You don't really care about the community because if you did you wouldn't be sitting there calling for strikes constantly (before the mods started nailing ppl). You also wouldn't be threatening to screw over your fellow gamers by only playing 1 side just to ruin their queue times.
So it's time to either put up or shut up and prove you're an adult and actually stop whining about how bad you've got it. I've been playing games since the 70's and the issues this game has are nothing compared to others that've been out there.
Lastly I'm glad the mods are more active here, there's been less whiny rant threads being endlessly spammed, we've got more mod involvement trying to discuss things. If the endless woe is me crap stops we'd probably have even more mod and possibly dev involvement. Since right now why would they come on here and discuss things only to be endlessly insulted by the same few spewing the same stuff repeatedly?
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@Tsulan said:
According to survivor mains, standing 4 meters away from a hooked survivor = face camping.
Semantics doesn't change the fact the killer is still hook camping and I've had a lot of rank matches where the killer face camped me as in he was almost within my character model. So no that's not according to survivor mains that's according to people that regularly face killers that do in fact face camp.
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@Master said:
Every DC is already tracked, devs just decided not to punish then
to an extent yes, but they have done some good sized ban waves of varying degrees. On both Reddit and their official site they've talked about this. Some of these are quitting and some are for hacking but they're going after the easy hanging fruit so to speak. I used to admin both Vac secured and on Vac secured servers and Vac servers are much easier to deal with bad behavior of any kind.
With their own servers running they could much deal with it more promptly and with less effort than they do now for better results. That'd also be good for when they rewrite the code and do major updates since the hosts can't ahem always run things well.
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@Master said:
@powerbats said:
@Master said:
A crash in the loading screen already doesnt count as normal DC, so it shouldnt be affected by the system anyway. Ultimately it happens so rarely that I think a 5 min timer would be fine, assuming that it triggers the system.
I know the game crashes frequently, but I would prefer having to wait 5 min after the crash instead of countless games ruined by ragequits, I assume you think the same, do you?
And if you face a hacker you shoudl be fine to DC and wait a few mins since you dont usually DC, right?
I usually wait a few minutes after a crash just to be safe the same way in other games. I think a game crash after another game crash should implement a lobby timer at least. So if you crash and then play another game and crash you should have a lobby timer wait. On pc it should require a game cache integrity check., not sure how the consoles handle it.
As far as dcing goes no I generally don't do that and only started doing it recently but it's still pretty rare overall. Out of may'be 1k game sor so don't know how many probably no more than 10-15 games and all within the last month.
I just wish they'd finally get dedicated servers setup since that'd solve so many problems all at once. You'd have hackers disappear pretty quickly, ping issues could be solved. The people who quit rather more often than would be normal get nailed automatically etc.
Dedicated servers wouldnt do anything against hacking and in order to automatically punish DCs, you dont need dedicated servers either
Well with dedicated they could go VAC bans and detection and dedicated would also allow for much easier tracking that is now possible.
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@Chrona I've had the same thing happen and as killer if they remaining ones aren't toxic i'll let them out and earn the points. I think the devs are more concerned and willing to punish the survivors that lead the killer to others to get them killed.
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@Runiver said:
@PigNRun said:
Well, and if the killer is hard camping, what is stopping survivors from doing both totems and generators? Plenty enough time for everything.You cannot do it if he catches someone early, especially if he has Ruin.
5 totems + 5 gens is just not doable within' 2mins as 3 players.Throw in a Doctor/Billy/Huntress and it's not feasible especially on wide open maps and or where gens are too close together.
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@Nickenzie said:
Grey87 said:Not gonna bother reading or watching the video.
Just here to say "Cya marth, no one really cares other than some fanboys".
Yeah, this is why half of the community is literally just plain stupid. Not trying to be rude but your literally judging a book by it's cover which is something your told not to do. Maybe try reading the post and watch the first 10 minutes at best to actually see what's going on? Never assume that it's just a random post with no purpose other than saying "MARTH88 IS LEAVING, NOOO!"
Edit: Sorry, however, when someone says these types of things, "I don't care"... it's literally because they didn't read the post or at least watch some of the video which ticks me off.
@Kevvie said:
Marth has said he was leaving multiple times in the last month and there are already multiple threads from his previous "announcements". It's turning into "The boy who cried wolf".This right here says it all, Marth is trying to drum up more sheep followers to follow and donate to him on his next game. If you look back it all started with depip screwing around in the tourney. This has nothing to do with not watching all or part of the video at all.
The typical fanboy response you don't understand him or didn't watch his stuff is what drives people nuts. It proves the only stupid ones are the ones using that insult because they don't like the responses. It might just be because they know he's done this before as posted above and are tired of the immature behavior.
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
Hillbilly420 said:For the record, this isn't a stealth brag, I got the new Billy weapon in roughly 5-6 hours. So I don't know why there's dudes running around saying "OMG! I need to equip Agitation and Hangman's Trick to fight those dang dirty trolls!" It's really not that hard to achieve.
Im at 33, yeah its not as bad as it is. In fact half the games SWF groups came up with offerings and party streamers wanting to farm points, hard to say no to that.
Sadly you're the exception, I've had 3 killers farm when multiple offerings were done and 1 was because someone dc'd during loading screen. All the rest have either been business as usual or the same old toxic killers. Billy's have all been hardcore jerks about it, Nurses and 1 huntress the same. I even had a Trapper use insidious on a camped person. some fair Pig's and a really cool Leatherface.
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@chemical_reject said:
FrenziedRoach said:My policy is to play the game as normal. No quarter asked, none given.
I don't give a crap about the cosmetics, and I don't give a crap if you get them. You want them? Earn them honestly - period.
Prey on a Margarita machine is still prey to be thrown on a hook, with or without a grill.
And that is fine to. We are talking about people intentionally hard camping the event gens and saboing hooks out of spite with no real intentions of "playing as normal"
This I saw no survivors saboing hooks at all last night and early am until the matches were killers only hard camping the event gens.
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@ZombieGenesis said:
@Nickdela9812 I think the nurse could absolutely use some reworking, she can be a slaughter machine in the right hands, but that's a far cry from saying she's "easy mode".In a snes once she's mastered she's pretty much easy mode on any map without lots of los breakers she's I see you you're dead. Throw in 3-5 blinks and or reduced cdr on anything and it's pretty much game over. The worse ones are those that you try and juke or mind game based on the charge time of the blink yet the blink magically stops short of where it should.
I think she should only get 2 blinks with 3 being the maximum but if you use 3 blinks the fatigue should be longer. The longer the blink the longer the fatigue type of thing and vice versa but there should still be a cd between successive blinks even with cdr.
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@campasaurus said:
powerbats said:@campasaurus said:
mcallisterbritt said:
_**I don't know what it is about the events it really turns most of the Killer into Total Dick Bags.... They think they have to Camper the Gen or try to keep everyone off the special BBQ gens **_
i assure you. it is a conditioned response that is force fed by the virtuous survivors.
It couldn't be all the dickhead hook campers from before the fix, it couldn't be all the campers on 1st hook before a single gen is even done. It most definitely couldn't be a reflexive survivor response to all the idckhead killers out there. So you might want to try taking that force fed conditioned response excuse and looking int the mirror.
You'll see it's you that's been force feeding yourseles all this time. Oh and in case you didn't catch that INTENSE SARCASM WAS USED DURING PARTS OF THIS POST.
you...deserve a trophy for today for the best spaz. that is no small feat considering the competition.i suspect any and all killer "ill behavior" can be directly traced back to the use of microphones. that's right. swf wrecked this game and continues to do so.
So swf caused all this yet toxic killers existed long before swf that's some pretty interesting logic there. Are you sure Kellyanne Conway didn't write that alternative reality logic for you?
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
AshleyWB said:@strain sounds like one messed up dud.
Just search the thread with the title
"Despicable behaviour of the company and it's representitves"One of the funniest threads ive ever seen.
Yes that was a enlightening thread collection there and when confronted with facts the op instantly blew up at everyone. I'm actually glad the mods took care of it since it was like trying to talk to a 2 year old throwing a tempter tantrum in a corner. I'll gladly take the daily threads from a certain few posters who seem to have ahem gotten restricted lately.
Those at least made for some good comedy, the poster we're referring to it felt like the old adage.
"Don't ever try and argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level of stupidity."
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@campasaurus said:
mcallisterbritt said:_**I don't know what it is about the events it really turns most of the Killer into Total Dick Bags.... They think they have to Camper the Gen or try to keep everyone off the special BBQ gens **_
i assure you. it is a conditioned response that is force fed by the virtuous survivors.It couldn't be all the dickhead hook campers from before the fix, it couldn't be all the campers on 1st hook before a single gen is even done. It most definitely couldn't be a reflexive survivor response to all the idckhead killers out there. So you might want to try taking that force fed conditioned response excuse and looking int the mirror.
You'll see it's you that's been force feeding yourseles all this time. Oh and in case you didn't catch that INTENSE SARCASM WAS USED DURING PARTS OF THIS POST.
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My problem with whispers is the killer using it always seems to run right to me no matter where I'm hiding. There's a few occasions where they know someones around and go looking but mostly it's like it's actively telling them where you're at. They tell me post game well it told me where you're at yet the description doesn't say that. It's sporadically not constant and it's isn't like a permanent bbq aura but seems to work like that.
I'd love to see them remove that and other ones like that when they finally fix things and actually make it a stealthy game play style. There'd be lots of los breakers but only 1-2 pallets on small maps and no endless loop spots. Just places to break los and sneak of in 1 of several directions or places to hide better. You could remove DS at that point along with other perks on both sides.
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@Master said:
A crash in the loading screen already doesnt count as normal DC, so it shouldnt be affected by the system anyway. Ultimately it happens so rarely that I think a 5 min timer would be fine, assuming that it triggers the system.
I know the game crashes frequently, but I would prefer having to wait 5 min after the crash instead of countless games ruined by ragequits, I assume you think the same, do you?
And if you face a hacker you shoudl be fine to DC and wait a few mins since you dont usually DC, right?
I usually wait a few minutes after a crash just to be safe the same way in other games. I think a game crash after another game crash should implement a lobby timer at least. So if you crash and then play another game and crash you should have a lobby timer wait. On pc it should require a game cache integrity check., not sure how the consoles handle it.
As far as dcing goes no I generally don't do that and only started doing it recently but it's still pretty rare overall. Out of may'be 1k game sor so don't know how many probably no more than 10-15 games and all within the last month.
I just wish they'd finally get dedicated servers setup since that'd solve so many problems all at once. You'd have hackers disappear pretty quickly, ping issues could be solved. The people who quit rather more often than would be normal get nailed automatically etc.
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The issue is that the game on pc crashes during loading screen and you either get an error message saying what happened or none at all. There's the can't move bug that still hits people and the solutions don't always work. I've had friends internet or pc reset during loading screen or in game in match.
I've been in games as both killer and survivor where the game just blows up and either crashes me to the desktop and says nothing. Sometimes it'll say error code x etc as the reason but most times it's nothing. So you can't even send in an error report for debugging.
The quits in game are frustrating since I've been Pig and Trapper on some amps and people load in and instantly bail. They'll also do that on 1st hit, 1st down or 1st hook etc and that can lead to a chain of them. I always try and let the survivors farm at that point and farm myself as well which is easier now with the rank 15 buffer. (I'm taking it easy this season not really trying to do anything other than farm and try out different things as killer)
I used to never rage quit but now that' I've hit rank 1 I've actually done it a few times when faced with a hacker or toxic killer I had the same Legacy Nurse with wall hack and aimbot straight matches. I know she was hacking and aimbotting because she'd start the match and automatically blink right to a survivor who she never knew was there and couldn't have seen.
She also had the legacy skin given out on Nov 24, 2016 but the account wasn't created until June 2017 so they used the hack to give themselves everything. I also recorded video from spec mode and watched her glide across maps and nail people she had no way of knowing were there.
She even would fully charge blinks with 2x less accuracy addons yet her blink for the 2nd hit would magically stop and turn and change angles to hit the survivor. I just started quitting on her as did solo queue people because they didn't want to reward the jerk.
I don't like the rage quits but can understand them as well when it's a toxic killer or survivor.
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@Nos37 said:
Events turn survivors into [BAD WORDS] and [BAD WORDS]I don't know what it is about the events that really turn most of the survivors into complete [BAD WORDS]... They think they have to sabotage or body-block the hook or try to keep the killer from hooking on special BBQ hooks
I don't know what it is about killers that make them think this way other than the fact that they force survivors into this. The game starts and where is the killer camping, the 2 special gens if that's all there is ore the 3 and letting no one touch them. Then when they get a down they don't go for the bbq hook but for a regular hook much further away. So survivors decide that ifd the killer is going to be a dick so will they.since it's the killer that's going to initiate it.
Most of my rank 1-2 games last night and this am were filled with jackarsed killers including a Huntress that camped 2 of the special gens. That both spawned within 15 meters of each other on Autohaven Blod Lodge and wouldn't leave them for any reason.
She could also sit on the ledge and throw axes at anyone trying one of the other gens close. I had a Trapper with Insidious on Gashaven who'd camp on non bbq hook victims. He wasn't even trying for the bbq hooks and instead went out of his way to get non bbq hooks.
In 30+ games played I had 3 friendly killers that farmed, 5 killers that played normally and went after anyone and every gen. There was 6 games where the killer would go for bbq hooks but would still focus on event gens mainly. The rest were jerks about it and never went for bbq hooks unless it was 3rrd hook or last person alive to hook.
The kiles brought Mori's, Devour Hope, NOED, only guarded the special event gens and any super close. They'd hard camp anyone they hooked and would sit there and nod their head and hit victim repeatedly. Then post game when they said I was gonna farm but you guys were jerks were asked why they brought the perks they perks/offerings.
Their response was because they wanted to ruin it for everyone else and be jerks. They didn't bring those because survivors were jerks because that was a decision they made to be a jerk beforehand. This is especially true when you see 4-5 bbq offerings and or party streamers with several bbq offerings.
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@Orion said:
@Tsulan said:
@Orion said:
@Tsulan said:
Why is NOED considered "rewarding failure"? Game is not finished until you see the point screen.
I mean there are perks specifically for the endgame like Remember Me and Blood Warden.Because otherwise Survivors would have to admit that NOED even triggering is their fault, and that late-game builds don't exist.
Oh damn, you are right.
Indeed. When I pointed out that all of the Nightmare's perks are late-game in another thread, all I got in response was a dodge, claiming that he's "more effective" with such and such build, despite the fact that I was only referring to his perks and not his gameplay (since perks are teachable and all, referring to so and so character's perks is literally just referring to the perks).
You're leaving out some critical stuff again like the fact you said one thing then said you meant something different. Then later on you changed your story again and said that what you said wasn't what you meant and you never said it. This despite you claiming 2 different things earlier.
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@se05239 said:
She is the only true viable killer. That's why she's so prominent in the higher ranks compared to the other killers.
Until the maps are reworked to make long loops impossible and stealth more important than running in circles and thus allowing for other killers to do good, Nurse is what people will play to counter the bullshit that DbD suffers from.Incorrect at rank 1-2 there's tons of Hag's Billy's Freddy's, Trappers and even Pig's and Wraiths are there.
The 2nd yes, but the devs won't do stealth for whatever reason but part of it then the killer aura and tracking perks would have to disappear. Well at least some of them and no more red foot print marks etc.
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@SovererignKing said:
You both have a lot to learn. Both of those videos are me playing. Both are High Rank game play. Both are highly common.I can already tell. Both of you have never played much High Rank. You don’t even need comm’s to be this efficient. It’s literally just that easy if Survivors decide they don’t want to screw around. The only Killer with the potential to stop this crap is The Nurse. I know because i’m a Nurse Main on PS4 myself.
These videos show off exactly how busted the Gen Rush meta is. Nice try with the “Rank 20-9” excuse though. Perhaps there is difference in region/platform. The difference being your region and PC players have so many hours in the game they are bored of actually trying to win, and just dick around more often.
1.You're the one that has a lot to learn as evidenced by your videos.
2.I've been rank 1 pretty much most of the last few weeks except when I've deranked slightly or purposely. Then solo'd my way back up to 1. So obviously I've played plenty of high ranked games. Just because you can only do good on nurse doesn't mean everyone has to do same.
At rank 1-2 currently Wraith, Pig, Freddy, Trapper, Hag, Billy, and Nurse are all cleaning house most games. The Clown and Huntress are doing well too. On most games it's a 4k every time and occasionally 1-2 might get out. It's amazing you complain about gen rush but in quite a few matches the survivors are lucky to even get 1 gen done, let alone all 5.
When they do get all 5 the killer still usually gets 2-4 every game because by that time they've usually gotten 2 sac's and then it's killer sided from there on out. The only times more than 2 ever get out is if the killer is screwing around or on a killer they don't play but are doing for the daily.
Also stop with the deflection crap, it's getting old now in all of my games with the exception of a few no one ever screws around. The killers are just too good for that crap.In every game the survivors play to win not to see how often they can tea bag the killer.
3.When you can finally stop with the excuses and deflections you'll finally realize you're the common denominator in all your games. The killers on pc seem to do just fine even freddy's with absolutely no perks wreck things here. That would suggest it's you not teh games mechanics that're the biggest issue.