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@Sythalin said:
Survivor Secrets EXPOSED 3
Survivors only want 3 simple things out of every game:
1) Fast, easy wins (escape)
2) Harass the killer player as much as possible and ensure they get as little as possible from the match
3) A reason to report every killer after every gameThats what i meant with " those survivors" . The rest want a normal game tho. Aint fair to clump them all together just because they play one in game role.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@pauloandrade22 said:
Awesome . Personally the only "survivor mains" i have an issue with are the bully/intentionally stupid ones. The normal survivors mains are fine for me personally. As long as you are polite you are fine for me even in disagreement (the trick is to disagree politely).No, I never bully anyone in a game. Its no way to have fun. I appreciate a good killer who plays well. The onus is on them to give us survivors a run for our money.
Frankly survivors who piss the killer off by being toxic usually are just putting a target on their back for a camping and tunneling.
Same . I'l bully as killer if you bully me back( A nice side camp for you my friend) other wise il play smart to win (which involves camping and tunneling as they are strategies too)
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
m> > @pauloandrade22 said:
At least you undestand the negativity killers go though right? and i advise that you play both sides so you undestand both sides of the game as well.
Oh yeah I've played killer. Michael, Wraith, and Freddy mainly. I've also watched plenty of streamers play killer. I know how tough it is.
Awesome . Personally the only "survivor mains" i have an issue with are the bully/intentionally stupid ones. The normal survivors mains are fine for me personally. As long as you are polite you are fine for me even in disagreement (the trick is to disagree politely).
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
@pauloandrade22 said:
@Dwight_Fairfield said:
As a survivor I consider a win in any the following scenarios;- I escape
- I make good blood
- I make more blood than the killer
- My altruistic actions helped other survivors escape
What about killer ?
I'm a survivor main. Very, very rarely play killer.
At least you undestand the negativity killers go though right? and i advise that you play both sides so you undestand both sides of the game as well.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
As a survivor I consider a win in any the following scenarios;- I escape
- I make good blood
- I make more blood than the killer
- My altruistic actions helped other survivors escape
What about killer ?
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@Envees said:
At this point it would be a game where i did not play the benny hill circle jerk game even if it meant that 3 get out. That is the state of killer for me atm. I play neither of the 3 killers that are able to handle loopers. This would mean that i actually had some fun unlike all games now where all you do is deal with sruv bullshit and run in circles.But the ultimate win for me atm is not playing the game. No more high blood pressure. No more frustration. I play other stuff now that is actually fun unlike this game that brings nothing but bad feelings and hardly ever any fun as killer due to surv bias who pay the bills.
thats sucks but oh well. Me hopes you have fun in your next games.
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@JusticeZERO said:
nerf
To weaken or make less dangerous. Taken from the "Nerf" brand name, which makes sports equipment toys out of a soft foam (e.g., the Nerf football is soft foam rather than the hard leather of a real football). Used frequently in the context of computer game balance changes.where did buff come from as well please?
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@Blueberry said:
Instead of buffing killers enough to be able to kill they just brainwashed people to think winning is pipping. Unless I killed at least two I failed. 3 or more is a strong win.I think its more like everyone has a different view on what is a win hence why i asked that question to the people. But fair enough.
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@deadwolfwalking said:
seems to me that the virgins in horror movies always survive.... so i think its safe to say that the ppl who escape the killer in DBD are also virgins.... SWF, flashlights and DS? you're NEVER getting laid....ummmmmmm i dont use them and i am one. So what happens then?
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@Shadoureon said:
Dont know the actual meta perks but I really like Steak Out. When a killer is chasing a survivor and you are repairing near them its one great skill check after another. Bonus Experience and quicker repairs what more do you want.We'll make it with WGLF.
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@thekiller490490 said:
So the background. I have just gotten Lampkin lane 2 times in a row with billy, and I got it again. These rounds haven't been good, and these survivors are definitely going to troll me. As I chase a Dwight in the street around a car, I stop, look at him a shake my head no, the other three survivors are watching on a balcony. I walk to a pallet and let the Dwight stun me.Then i motion for the survivors to get off the balcony. They do, and I slowly made my way towards the Claudette. I get to the point where I was being stopped by her and I don't swing. I was done playing normal dbd.
They quickly got the message. Soon they were gathered around, letting me rev my chainsaw and not running away. The Dwight is very eager to farm pallets and gens. The others are just hanging out.
After a bit of pallet slamming I show them I want to hook one of them. Then let me down the Kate and put her on a hook. I let them get her. They then started pointing at each other like as if they were saying "him next, no her next," after a few minutes they split up. Only the Dwight stayed with me the entire time. Soon they had one gen left and I was planning to get back to killing when they got it. I got the Claudette on the hook the second time, ( the obsession and she had a flashlight.)
Soon the last generator is finished. I quickly down and kill the Claudette and everyone bolts it for the doors. Both the Kate and Laurie escape. As I look for the Dwight the Dwight finds me. He takes me to a hook and points.
This was a real round of dbd.
Fantastic.
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@Beaburd said:
I think Identity V (DBD's mobile version) has it a win for the killer if 3+ die, a win for the survivors if 3+ live, and a draw if it goes even at 2 dead/alive. I like that way of thinking.Though, I do admit to considering it a win if I pip against a try hard SWF even if only one dies.
From what i have seen Indentity V seems significantly better designed than dbd at the moment so yeah . And it has a casual and ranked mode to boot.
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@deadwolfwalking said:
as a killer, i consider it a 'win' if i don't have to walk across the room to pick up my controller before starting another game.... its an added bonus if i can avoid kicking out the screen of my television.... i find victories wherever possible....LOL 10 Of 10 best reason.
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@akbays35 said:
when you and the killer agree that your bad team mates were bad.Fair enough
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@Dabrownman1812 said:
They also changed survivor auras to match gen auras a bit so you can hide behind gensYour asking "those" survivors to have an actual thought about how to inteligently play the game.
YOU ARE ASKING TOO MUCH MAN TOO MUCH.
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@TangledHelix said:
As survivor a win to me is surviving against unlikely odds. Surviving normally just seems like clockwork and wether I live or die I seem to pip so it doesn't matter to me. Although any game where I'm chased all 5 gens and still escape and actually makes my heart race is a win for me. Or like I'm being camped and someone actually manages to save me and we all escape. Or finding the hatch after the rest of my team was demolished against a good killer. I like those games a lot.If i get saved at the end from a camping killer i honestly feel bad for the killer especially if the game was a gen rush game ( gens done in 6 mins or less). But i know what you feel as well.
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@Doom_Punk said:
Having fun, but sadly I don't get this from either side anymore.Survivors seem to think we all want instant 4ks but that's not the case... I can 4k and still feel as if I lost.
That sucks . Sorry to hear that.
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@Paddy4583 said:
Depends on what I’m actually trying to get out of the match.
If I achieve my target then I chalk it up as a personal win, sod the systemThats a nice way to see it too.
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@Lowbei said:
This is a score based game.Escaping. Killing. Doing gens. These are all just scoring events.
Rank is only about matchmaking, thus pips are not a factor of “winning the match”. They are just there to move you around in the matchmaking que.
Your score, excluding offering bonuses, is what determines “winning”
for me it depends . If i got infinited by the survivor but get like 26 000 BP then i had 0 fun and there fore i lost ya get me?
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@Runiver said:
Winning is having fun in a round.
As simple as that.yeah that too.
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@Someissues said:
As Survivor dying or not doesn't really matter as long as you know you have Pip. Once you have pip you have won2 kills should not be by any means a win for the Killer, there are many cases where the entity still counts it as a loss despite you killing all 4 / 2, punishing you for killing them too quick, especially with Myer add-ons
and punishing you for the lack of points in other categories due to the games being too quick
Not too bad since you can use those to De-rank anyway
Personally if i 2 or three maned if not 4 maned it does not matter what time it took the game to end. but i will pip (2 man is the safety pip at best part).
I remember i had a PTSD game as leatherface in badham in the fake basement magic house where 2 (i think) SWF (I dunno if they were all 4 SWF) just infinited me for like 15 minutes straight each time i hit them they swiched and it was absolutely horrible. I got 24 000 ish if not more points and a safety pip. But the game was a massive Disaster for me with a 4 man escape. I even got a pick up animation canceled for Some ######### reason. So from there on i stoped caring about points especially since i have all the perks i want for my killers anyways.
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@SNTD said:
2 kills are the standard for me.Thats is cool by me.
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@Mr_Jay_Stark said:
Ok might be unpopular opinion but I’m not much of a play to win type kind of guy. Like sure I reach red ranks but it’s like there honestly isn’t any incentives to be in red ranks so I take my time. Once I reach red ranks I’m like ok time to play a different game till next rank reset. So I’m just glad to get in a game and earn blood points and shards.Edit: I have the thanos mentality: I’m rooting for the other team to win for example if I’m a survivor I root for the killer if I’m killer I root for the survivors (I know it’s weird but that’s how I play)
thats rather good. i have games too as a survivor where i am rooting for the killer too (when hes being looped and/or similar but i wont sabotage games(intentionally) of course.
But as killer im like 90% not rotting for them at all (unless they are friends but i very rarely had that situation)
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
DukeJukem said:let me first start out by saying i don't care about your little troll posts like git gud etc. people like you are children and should just carry a portable noose around. anyways here we go :chuffed:
these nerfs and reworks are just terrible and it all started when you introduced "the victory cube" for me anyway. when you were trying to change the way killers ranked up. that was a terrible idea by the way. this new emblem system is also terrible and didnt need to happen. it's seriously insanely simple to balance the ranking system. it used to be based on bloodpoint value endgame which determined if you pipped right? so if it was too easy or too hard to pip change the required bp values to pip or depip and find the sweeet spot. fixing that problem was that simple but you just ruined it with AMAZING ideas. go back to the bloodpoint pipping system. the emblems dont mean anything.......we don't collect them or gain anything from them. why make the system?
you introduce with new dlcs/perks etc all the time then shortly thereafter nerf them to hell. then when we complain you say you plan on "reworking" all this stuff you just nerfed to hell and made useless. ironically im pretty sure the clown is the only dlc killer to be immediately buffed instead of nerfed lol.
what you're doing right now with killers isn't too great either. the tinker perk idea is fine but the other perks revealing auras isn't. this is a hide and seek game. bbq and chili is barely acceptable. as a matter of fact bbq shouldnt be acceptable but if it were taken away alot of killers would quit and now we are back to the subject of giving us nice things then nerfing them to hell after we buy them. bbq was nerfed after release too. instead of giving killers more aura reading abilities you need to just flat out fix the sound in your game. you've broken the sounds from the killers perspective a million times over in almost all of your patches. you've broken survivor terror radius stuff yada yada yada. do u guys test before you release? seriously some of these broken things ARE IMMEDIATELY NOTICEABLE. if the sound wasn't so terrible in this game killers wouldn't need bbq or whispers. stridor would be meta of course but still.
killer exploits are never fixed unless its an every match sort of thing. survivor exploits are patched asap. why? because this game needs killers in order to stay alive
the self care nerf is terrible. if i lose the killer.......thats his fault and i should be able to heal myself. i've earned it. make self caring sounds louder if its such an issue. this whole resetting the heal is garbage. just remove the perk if you're going to do that. stop acting like self care is overpowered because a ton of people use comms on this game so we can either call out where we are or run bond and find someone. running bond and finding someone is almost more beneficial than actually self caring if u find someone near you fast enough. if you want to change self care. nerf it to 40 percent and see how it goes and adjust from there. stop REWORKING things that are based on a percentage/value based system. that's not the proper way of doing things.
the decisive strike nerf. terrible idea. here are some good idea. run enduring. make gens take longer. decisive strike isn't a survival perk it's a time wasting perk towards the killer. any killer who isnt a [BAD WORD] is going to follow your scratch marks after you dstrike and down you again unless you're running iron will and someone juke him in a nearby jungle gym etc. you can also make the d strike stun shorter. these ideas are better than the current rework that doesnt need to happen.
exhaustion ideas. almost a good idea but if im not in a chase my exhaustion should cooldown if im running. while in a chase and running...fine......i understand the no cooldown but if im outside of a chase and running around you shouldnt be holding my exhaustion cooldown against me. you're just being a dick now. also this idea is pretty terrible with your new random ass pallet spawning system. i can load gas heaven once and pallets will be here and the nexts they're there. amazing idea while nerfing exhaustion. thats 2 kicks in my ass. thanks.
how to counter pallet looping. you did one thing right you removed the double pallets from areas. that was good. now instead of removing a ton of pallets in spots like u did with the last patch.......you should just have either made the looping spots a shorter distance so the killer could take advantage of bloodlust better or just make bloodlust occur faster so they can catch up faster. or we could make it so breaking a pallet only drops you to bloodlust 1 until you lose the chase. so many ideas to choose but you choose an idea that gives killers an ez win.
pallet vacuum system rework. if i reach a pallet i should be able to suck myself through. not like the old system that vaccum was bigger. you didnt need to be touching the pallet with the old system you could be a few meters away and it would still vacuum you. now i cant even reach the pallet and slam it down i have to run halfway through it........or more depending how shittily the game is acting. secondly what is this ######### "twirly ballerina barbie" bullshit survivors now do when dropping a pallet..........but if im just standing there........? why?! why do they do that? it slows the pallet drop down which screws people over constantly while just standing there dropping a pallet or if theyre running through it. the amount of downs that happen because of it are bullshit. also with the killer vacuum nerf if survivors get downed on a pallet the killer should NEVER pick them up lol. congrats devs you created a stalemate.......and played yourselves.
im not going to go into killer very much because i quit putting alot of time into it after the victory cube was released. it wasnt fun anymore and these new changed aren't making it fun either due to the way you're pussifying survivors as well. i played the ptb. nothing is fun about killer anymore
go back to the patch before the killer victory cube and just try again man. adjust values on everything instead of reworking stuff by coming up with these new ideas nobody wants. you're changing a game everyone fell in love with and you're basing it on rank 20 gameplay and 13 year olds who don't know their head from their own ass. children are literally the reason why no good video games are made anymore/have a decent lifespan. look at all these mobile games or these copy and paste game or the sequels every year that are weak. stop catering to these noobs.....seriously.
i have 1.4k hours in this game so i have a pretty decent view to go off of. 1/3 or so of that is killer gameplay........but you ruined that for me so......i dont care.
As of right now i'm uninstalling this game. i've bought all of your dlcs and have spent money on your new in game currency as well. i've technically gotten my 20 dollars worth but that isn't the point. you just keep reworking things......breaking things......fixing things that break other things.......it's just a huge joke honestly. you hardly ever give a straight answer when you do your q&a's etc on twitch or youtube. you just step around the answer or say you have plans. you are seriously the nascar drivers of video game developers. i can't believe matthieu cote or however you spell it wasn't fired when he told everyone to play the other role in their game or to play civ 6 while people tuning into their stream were telling them their game was broken. when a community complains about everything you're doing wrong AND its the majority of the community you don't tell them to go play something else you [BAD WORD] fix your broken ass game.
one last thing. heres proof the devs dont know what they're doing. remember a few months back when they reworked pallet stuns/flashlight saves on killers? so you could flashlight during anytime or drop the pallet at any time and the killer would drop the survivor every single [BAD WORD] time? yea i remember that too and as a survivor.......i was shocked and dumbfounded. it floored me so badly that i played properly like before the patch. i timed the pallets and flashlights properly because i knew it was terribly unfair. these devs are just........idk man. [BAD WORD] canadians. maybe i'll check back during christmas or so but this game is catered to rank 20 noobs now. bye bye
Im quoting this so people have to scroll even more.
HA i clicked and dragged .
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@ChraizE said:
I agree with you as a survivor indeed a win is a pip. A double pip means you put on a dominant performance as a survivor, some could say in that case perhaps you even carried the team. For killer getting at least 2 kills really signifies a successful match in my view. But pipping as killer with 4 escapes feels like a loss. Personally I enjoy giving props to the killer or survivor who played an exceptional match. Face campers, griefers and trolls I've learned over time to just never make a comment, I don't like feeding into it and I don't want them thinking about me when post match chat is over.There are other times where a loss feels like a win, if I pull off a really good juke it feels like a win and something to remember, get tunneled in a chase for most of the match and or camped I depip because all I did was get chased (which is not enough to pip) at least I can take some pride knowing my team will respect the fact I distracted the killer long enough for them all to pip with ease and escape at my expense it can still feel like a win.
i see i see.
If i got skillfully outplayed im fine with the outcome (especially as killer as that is often not the case as stalling is not outplaying me personally) That and a positive end game chat if i lose does not feel like a loss. If not it depends on what they say or similar( in game skill, DS BS( as in bullshit),and others).
Personally Face campers( which was a fixed exploit but oh well) dont make me mad or anything (most of the time) because its very common that the killer feels disgusted or some other negative feeling when theydo it anyways (like me for example).
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@Tsulan said:
While I don't like the emblem system either, it was at least a step into the right direction. Purely BP based ranks gave us rank 1 killers with 36 kills and 1500 hours. So, no thx.The changes in the PTB are great. Devs are on a good way and I really like the way the last dev streams have been.
They are not destroying the game, but saving it. It was to survivor sided.
Not saving per se. More like correcting it. Because asymettery needs the 1 to be the power role.
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@SovererignKing said:
As a Survivor : Escape is the ultimate goal, but a black pip and die is fine as well. As a Killer : 2+ Kills is the goal, but just a pip is fine. I’m a little more harsh on myself as Killer, simply because I don’t want to set the bar too low and not be at least a challenge for the Survivors.i personally think that a safety is a tie and i dont like it honestly. but i respect Your POV Sovererign
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@ShrimpTwiggs said:
As a survivor I either consider it a win if I escape, or if die and pip anyway. As a killer, I consider a 2k and a pip a win. But as long as I had a fun match, then it doesn't matter all that much, win or lose.The best / worst part of the game is the end game chat personally. And DS.
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@ShrimpTwiggs said:
As a survivor I either consider it a win if I escape, or if die and pip anyway. As a killer, I consider a 2k and a pip a win. But as long as I had a fun match, then it doesn't matter all that much, win or lose.I agree too , person of the web.
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@Siggerad said:
Interesting post OP, but remember there is a lot of players here who got more scared about read than a over power killer, maybe use images and arrows and cartoon characters, next time
god please no. Makes it worse to see.
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Sorry for the sass ChraizE. > @ChraizE said:
@pauloandrade22 said:
@ChraizE said:
@pauloandrade22 said:
@ChraizE said:
BBQ Chilli + Nurses Calling + Gigantic incoming buffs for Tinkerer and Bitter Murmur. R.I.P stealth builds.Nice delusiong person of the web.
Are you not aware of what's actually happening to Tinkerer and Bitter Murmur? dude stealth builds will be utterly useless.
i know and i disagree. bitter murmur will not replace BBQ, Nurses, ruin enduring.
And it will probably proc when you are far away as well too.
And tinkerer will not be good unless its activated at 80% and is longer too.Massive assumption there we will definitely disagree on this one. The meta will change once in play I am calling it now.
heh. i disagree but i respect your POV.
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i shall flex them muscles to signal a "######### camper" as they say.
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@Orion said:
@pauloandrade22 said:
@Orion said:
@HeroLives said:
Does anyone else ever solo que and you sync perfectly with another player. You both stand at the exit gate before you run out and do the point gesture and they do it back repeatedly “like you, no you” Bc hell yeah the coordination.Nah, man. If the gates are open and I can leave, I do it. [BAD WORD] everyone else.
will u save me at least
?If the gates are open and you're already hooked, that means you're being camped. So thanks but no thanks, I'd prefer to live.
If you're being chased, I may go out and try to help, if I know where you are. Otherwise, sucks to be you.Fair enough.
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Sorry for the sass ChraizE.
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@ChraizE said:
@pauloandrade22 said:
@ChraizE said:
BBQ Chilli + Nurses Calling + Gigantic incoming buffs for Tinkerer and Bitter Murmur. R.I.P stealth builds.Nice delusiong person of the web.
Are you not aware of what's actually happening to Tinkerer and Bitter Murmur? dude stealth builds will be utterly useless.
i know and i disagree. bitter murmur will not replace BBQ, Nurses, ruin enduring.
And it will probably proc when you are far away as well too.
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@ChraizE said:
@pauloandrade22 said:
@ChraizE said:
@MrChills said:
This guy used to be a high rank 1 survivor then purposely deranked to 17 so he and his premade could harass killers. I've faced this guy at high rank and low rank. he's such a little #########.If you play by his rules, he flames you. If you don't, he flames you. Everytime I've laid eyes on this dude, I've legit made him die first because not only does he flame me, if he is solo, which sometimes he is, he sandbags and flames his teammate. Good ridden, you tumor.Wow, sounds like the community is better off lol. Pulls the poor me act on the forum but in game is toxic AF and treats people like garbage. So glad he uninstalled.
Im pretty sure it was just a fisherman act actually. I doubt he/she/it uninstalled
I just found it hilarious that the OP was a known douche bag and got called out on his sympathy thread. Pure gold!
yeah its pretty awesome.
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@Orion said:
@HeroLives said:
Does anyone else ever solo que and you sync perfectly with another player. You both stand at the exit gate before you run out and do the point gesture and they do it back repeatedly “like you, no you” Bc hell yeah the coordination.Nah, man. If the gates are open and I can leave, I do it. [BAD WORD] everyone else.
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@ChraizE said:
BBQ Chilli + Nurses Calling + Gigantic incoming buffs for Tinkerer and Bitter Murmur. R.I.P stealth builds.Nice delusiong person of the web.
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@ChraizE said:
@MrChills said:
This guy used to be a high rank 1 survivor then purposely deranked to 17 so he and his premade could harass killers. I've faced this guy at high rank and low rank. he's such a little #########.If you play by his rules, he flames you. If you don't, he flames you. Everytime I've laid eyes on this dude, I've legit made him die first because not only does he flame me, if he is solo, which sometimes he is, he sandbags and flames his teammate. Good ridden, you tumor.Wow, sounds like the community is better off lol. Pulls the poor me act on the forum but in game is toxic AF and treats people like garbage. So glad he uninstalled.
Im pretty sure it was just a fisherman act actually. I doubt he/she/it uninstalled
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@SovererignKing said:
So you’re complaining you have have to hit CNTRL a few times around team mates?Meeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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@SuperiorityComplex said:
Why is looping seen as such an crummy method of surviving by soo many killers? What other options to survivors have to survive? Most jukes don’t work against good killers, and if you do managed to break LOS and throw them off they usually find you again pretty quickly due to the loud crying. Looping is the only effective method survivors have to waste a killers time.the point is exactly not to get found at all.
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@ChraizE said:
@pauloandrade22 said:
@ChraizE said:
@pauloandrade22 said:
@ChraizE said:
That looked like a clip glitch or something buggy, you timed it correctly. Bad luck mate.BZZZZTTTTT Wrong. he almost hit it. but he/she missed it anyways. Or it was lag or similar.
this isn't a game show but cheers for the special effects, we will agree to disagree on this one.
BUT BUt my sounds. snifff....
.But no he did F up that stun. Or the killer on his screen was not in the plank hit box. One of the Two.
okay that last bit I could agree with perhaps the killer was not quite close enough to the pallet.
vote up
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@ChraizE said:
@pauloandrade22 said:
@ChraizE said:
That looked like a clip glitch or something buggy, you timed it correctly. Bad luck mate.BZZZZTTTTT Wrong. he almost hit it. but he/she missed it anyways. Or it was lag or similar.
this isn't a game show but cheers for the special effects, we will agree to disagree on this one.
BUT BUt my sounds. snifff....
.But no he did F up that stun. Or the killer on his screen was not in the plank hit box. One of the Two.
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@ChraizE said:
That looked like a clip glitch or something buggy, you timed it correctly. Bad luck mate.BZZZZTTTTT Wrong. he almost hit it. but he/she missed it anyways. Or it was lag or similar.
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@jiyeonlee said:
but isn't it barbecue;; why its wrong thing nowJust say BBQ please
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@ThePloopz said:
Wait so do you like BBC?I do like Big Black Cakes thank you very much.
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You miss timed the pallet stun by like 0.2 seconds person of the web.
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@Khalednazari said:
Not to dodge, but I need to change my perk strategy and bring in some salty perks/offering against SWF.what chesters said plus all private profiles or all on their friends list.
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@Baphomett said:
Just make one chance to BBQ - leave it 4 secpnds (hell, make it 10 for that matter) but auras disappear when you get within 40 meters, whether that happens in the 1st second or the 4th. Essentially, instead of "the aura of any survivor 40 meters or more from the hook is revealed for 4 seconds" it becomes "the aura of any survivor 40 meters or more from the KILLER is revealed for 4 seconds", thus the 40 meter immunity moves WITH the killer.Thoughts?
not necessary its has plenty of counters( complete nullyfiers already)
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bye have a good time.