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@Visionmaker said:
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@Visionmaker said:
Hatch is survivor objective. Why should the killer get something for finding a survivor objective?why should the survivor get a free escape? yeah exactly lol ....
Because they completed enough generators for the hatch to spawn, and got to it before you downed them. It's a survivor objective.
bullshit. it creates a hatch standoff. so if i get to it first then what which last game i did exactly that. your thinking of it from survivor side. typical. not the killer side lol. survivor objective lmao. the whole mechanic was made by an idiot who did not think of both sides and blatantly ignored it. thats why its supposed to be being changed
You're right. Survivor should just fall through and not be able to be caught.
It's a survivor objective. You seem to continue to miss that. It's survivor sided when you fail to strategically play. You should have slugged or downed them before they got to the hatch.
Arguing that the killer should get brownie points for finding a hatch is like saying survivors should be able to barricade the basement for finding it first.
save your biased one sided crap for someone else. well its why they added in the ptb a hatch closing mechanic because their is nothing more unfun and boring than the hatch stand off as i found it first. says the guy who is saying the survivor should get it no matter what a get out of jail free card. no you miss that its unbalanced and should be able to be closed if the survivor gets their first fine they get it free. i walked away plenty of times because i was forced to give it to the survivor. fail to strategically play. so im punished and everyone else for a broken flawed mechanic that credits the survivor giving them a free escape. alrighty then lol.
? I never said anything about the hatch standoff. If anything, I think it should be decisive. Because it's a survivor objective, survivors should be the ones to be rewarded for reaching it. The killer shouldn't be rewarded for finding a survivor objective.
The hatch is also fine as a concept. Even if it needs adjustments, it shouldn't be pointless for the last remaining person to try to survive. Let's be real. You were punished because you didn't secure the last remaining kills. You could always slug and prevent the hatch from opening.
ok you are plain ignorant. go play killer side. experience it and see how one sided it is. the hatch is a bullshit concept. but let me guess your a survivor main so killer side doesnt matter. you are so biased its unreal lol
Ok. Come back when you want a discussion instead of whining about who mains what.
i was discussing it. you are using sheer bias. so honestly. [BAD WORD] off. and ignorance
Sounds like you were just ranting. Then calling me biased. Good discussion.
coming from you who feigns ignorance. and ignores the big picture of both sides. adios.
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@Bug_Reporter said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
is it just me or are they broken or what taking five minutes if not more to find a lobby its ridiculous5 minutes? Just a sec, i gonna check what steam says here....
90 minutes since i started to "play DbD", 2 matches were played, both of them took literally less than 5 minutes to finish.
Im almost sure that 70%+ of my playtime on DbD was looking for a lobby instead of actually playing this BS.
yeah probably true sitting waiting longer than being in a match. i gave up lol
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@Visionmaker said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@Visionmaker said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@Visionmaker said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@Visionmaker said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@Visionmaker said:
Hatch is survivor objective. Why should the killer get something for finding a survivor objective?why should the survivor get a free escape? yeah exactly lol ....
Because they completed enough generators for the hatch to spawn, and got to it before you downed them. It's a survivor objective.
bullshit. it creates a hatch standoff. so if i get to it first then what which last game i did exactly that. your thinking of it from survivor side. typical. not the killer side lol. survivor objective lmao. the whole mechanic was made by an idiot who did not think of both sides and blatantly ignored it. thats why its supposed to be being changed
You're right. Survivor should just fall through and not be able to be caught.
It's a survivor objective. You seem to continue to miss that. It's survivor sided when you fail to strategically play. You should have slugged or downed them before they got to the hatch.
Arguing that the killer should get brownie points for finding a hatch is like saying survivors should be able to barricade the basement for finding it first.
save your biased one sided crap for someone else. well its why they added in the ptb a hatch closing mechanic because their is nothing more unfun and boring than the hatch stand off as i found it first. says the guy who is saying the survivor should get it no matter what a get out of jail free card. no you miss that its unbalanced and should be able to be closed if the survivor gets their first fine they get it free. i walked away plenty of times because i was forced to give it to the survivor. fail to strategically play. so im punished and everyone else for a broken flawed mechanic that credits the survivor giving them a free escape. alrighty then lol.
? I never said anything about the hatch standoff. If anything, I think it should be decisive. Because it's a survivor objective, survivors should be the ones to be rewarded for reaching it. The killer shouldn't be rewarded for finding a survivor objective.
The hatch is also fine as a concept. Even if it needs adjustments, it shouldn't be pointless for the last remaining person to try to survive. Let's be real. You were punished because you didn't secure the last remaining kills. You could always slug and prevent the hatch from opening.
ok you are plain ignorant. go play killer side. experience it and see how one sided it is. the hatch is a bullshit concept. but let me guess your a survivor main so killer side doesnt matter. you are so biased its unreal lol
Ok. Come back when you want a discussion instead of whining about who mains what.
i was discussing it. you are using sheer bias. so honestly. ######### off. and ignorance
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@Visionmaker said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@Visionmaker said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@Visionmaker said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@Visionmaker said:
Hatch is survivor objective. Why should the killer get something for finding a survivor objective?why should the survivor get a free escape? yeah exactly lol ....
Because they completed enough generators for the hatch to spawn, and got to it before you downed them. It's a survivor objective.
bullshit. it creates a hatch standoff. so if i get to it first then what which last game i did exactly that. your thinking of it from survivor side. typical. not the killer side lol. survivor objective lmao. the whole mechanic was made by an idiot who did not think of both sides and blatantly ignored it. thats why its supposed to be being changed
You're right. Survivor should just fall through and not be able to be caught.
It's a survivor objective. You seem to continue to miss that. It's survivor sided when you fail to strategically play. You should have slugged or downed them before they got to the hatch.
Arguing that the killer should get brownie points for finding a hatch is like saying survivors should be able to barricade the basement for finding it first.
save your biased one sided crap for someone else. well its why they added in the ptb a hatch closing mechanic because their is nothing more unfun and boring than the hatch stand off as i found it first. says the guy who is saying the survivor should get it no matter what a get out of jail free card. no you miss that its unbalanced and should be able to be closed if the survivor gets their first fine they get it free. i walked away plenty of times because i was forced to give it to the survivor. fail to strategically play. so im punished and everyone else for a broken flawed mechanic that credits the survivor giving them a free escape. alrighty then lol.
? I never said anything about the hatch standoff. If anything, I think it should be decisive. Because it's a survivor objective, survivors should be the ones to be rewarded for reaching it. The killer shouldn't be rewarded for finding a survivor objective.
The hatch is also fine as a concept. Even if it needs adjustments, it shouldn't be pointless for the last remaining person to try to survive. Let's be real. You were punished because you didn't secure the last remaining kills. You could always slug and prevent the hatch from opening.
ok you are plain ignorant. go play killer side. experience it and see how one sided it is. the hatch is a bullshit concept. but let me guess your a survivor main so killer side doesnt matter. you are so biased its unreal lol
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@Visionmaker said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@Visionmaker said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@Visionmaker said:
Hatch is survivor objective. Why should the killer get something for finding a survivor objective?why should the survivor get a free escape? yeah exactly lol ....
Because they completed enough generators for the hatch to spawn, and got to it before you downed them. It's a survivor objective.
bullshit. it creates a hatch standoff. so if i get to it first then what which last game i did exactly that. your thinking of it from survivor side. typical. not the killer side lol. survivor objective lmao. the whole mechanic was made by an idiot who did not think of both sides and blatantly ignored it. thats why its supposed to be being changed
You're right. Survivor should just fall through and not be able to be caught.
It's a survivor objective. You seem to continue to miss that. It's survivor sided when you fail to strategically play. You should have slugged or downed them before they got to the hatch.
Arguing that the killer should get brownie points for finding a hatch is like saying survivors should be able to barricade the basement for finding it first.
save your biased one sided crap for someone else. well its why they added in the ptb a hatch closing mechanic because their is nothing more unfun and boring than the hatch stand off as i found it first. says the guy who is saying the survivor should get it no matter what a get out of jail free card. no you miss that its unbalanced and should be able to be closed if the survivor gets their first fine they get it free. i walked away plenty of times because i was forced to give it to the survivor. fail to strategically play. so im punished and everyone else for a broken flawed mechanic that credits the survivor giving them a free escape. alrighty then lol.
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@Visionmaker said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@Visionmaker said:
Hatch is survivor objective. Why should the killer get something for finding a survivor objective?why should the survivor get a free escape? yeah exactly lol ....
Because they completed enough generators for the hatch to spawn, and got to it before you downed them. It's a survivor objective.
bullshit. it creates a hatch standoff. so if i get to it first then what which last game i did exactly that. your thinking of it from survivor side. typical. not the killer side lol. survivor objective lmao. the whole mechanic was made by an idiot who did not think of both sides and blatantly ignored it. thats why its supposed to be being changed
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@Visionmaker said:
Hatch is survivor objective. Why should the killer get something for finding a survivor objective?why should the survivor get a free escape? yeah exactly lol ....
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@CoolAKn said:
The trade off is survivors can't see her aura either while she is spirit walking. However, I also think auras should be read during spirit walk.yeah they should it defeats the object of the perk if we cant ....
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@OGlilSPOOK20 said:
First 2 games I get vs the Spirit... They decided to camp me super hard even with 3 to 4 gens left and they still had Ruin & Haunted Ground up. Like it's really fuucking frustrating that I can't even play the game and have fun, because of some garbage killer players can't go and find survivors so whoever they find first gets camped hard. Then I get Tunneled by a Freddy the entire game (I escaped) the guy was super confusing... Plus he was a Rank 5 killer so idk why he let 5 gens go just chasing me. Then I get camped by a Pig who hits me twice when I'm hooked and just crouched in a corner camping me and then I get unhooked... She tunneled. She even had Ruin & Third Seal? She camped everyone she got and then rage quit at the end when she couldn't find the last guy, like #########??? I don't know why devs don't see this as a problem in their game, it just makes the game so boring and unfun to play. I feel like the killer can camp if they want to and sometime I know they have no choice but to do it. But my problem is the killers camping when there's still 3 to 5 gens left and Ruin still up, like come on dude. I feel the only suitable punishment for camping is when the killer is in a certain radius of the hooked survivor, the hooked survivor bleedout time is slowed down so it takes 3minutes for a survivor to fully bleedout on hook because I think its regular time is 2minutes. I know what killers go through sometime, but it's just unfun for both sides and there needs to be more rewards for killers leaving hooks and if they dont... There should be a punishment. Yes I know there's some people that are gonna say just gen rush the killer then. Well buddy I wish it was that easy, but you do get some idiot teammates that will try and come for the save and realize you're being camped and they will stand there or try and get the killers attention by running around you when they could be doing a gen.no one cares. they can camp if they want. and no its been said time and time again. survivors abused it their being no hook regression. so it was removed. so you can blame your fellow survivors for that. survivor mode is easy ive been tunneled too it isnt fun all you can do is by your team mates time or just ######### on the hook go onto the next game simple as that
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@Supernaut said:
oh, incidentally; I've just been playing as survivor and have had two Spirits disconnect in consecutive games after being looped to high heaven...
Food for thought...cant say im surprised with 110 movement speed lol. plus her power without addons having to cooldown for 20 seconds. i wont even subject myself to the frustration thats to come with using such a slow none viable killer. its sad really she could be better not just looking as good as they designed her. what use is that if they dont give her buffs to be viable ....
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@brokedownpalace said:
I'm reminded of how brutal the grind is. Especially as a survivor. Please do something about that!Thank goodness for this weekend.
they wont just take advantage of the weekend and go ham lol. i know i will be
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@Peasant said:
Dear god, I don't know how you people are mentioning me, but I would like it to stop. Also to @dannyfrog87 , I am sorry about my earlier statements. I just played a few rounds of survivor and dealt with pallet bs. There is an actual problem present and it needs to be addressed.idk i keep getting notifications too wish i could switch them off for this post like unsub kind of thing lol ..... yeah the pallet goes down so fast its barely a stun but also cant get a hit .... but ive dealt with bs too before the update id be on the proper side through the pallet and get no response of throwing it down. now its like lightning speed but it gives the survivor from my experience 100% chance of not being hit. pretty good job so far
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@Dudddd said:
dannyfrog87 said:@Thetruth said:
@PinkEricka said: dannyfrog87 said: @PinkEricka said: dannyfrog87 said:
@Peasant said: dannyfrog87 said:
so since this change basically the hit we would of got is now gone when they removed pallet vacuum or am i the only one who feels its like this? i tried with bing bong but nope the animation to bring the pallet down is so fast its absurd not to mention in the game i had the survivors 2 of them jumped the pallet but then twice in a row ended up back on my side lol then jumped back over again. not sure if that was latency or a general pallet issue? .... question is did this fix the issue though of being on the pallet side and going to throw it with no response when you press the button etc
The devs intentionally nerfed the pallet lunge hits. yeah its impossible to get a hit now great
So, you liked the fact Killers we’re getting bullshit hits lunging through pallets? wow.
so you like the fact your invincible now. more pandering to survivors when its easy enough as it is .... only issue i had was when being on the other side of the pallet and couldnt even throw it ....
LOL. Invincible? How does a pallet make survivors invincible? I don’t know, maybe... BREAK THE PALLET?????
There have been some survivor downgrades, ACTUAL balance changes, and killer buffs in this patch. I don’t see a reason to complain.
This dannyfrog sounds like a really piss poor killer. Hes already crying about the new killer saying she sucks
go play the killer. then come back to me. i played her in the ptb. i knew she was weak then. https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Rin_Yamaoka 110% movement speed and 20 seconds cooldown on her power. she is a noobstomper at best. piss poor. she isnt even viable freddy and bing bong aka wraith is better than her. my opinion is right. dont agree well not my problem
You’re on the forums complaining about every killer is not viable , you either need to realise its YOU not the killer or go play something else .
thats because they are not. no i dont. im right in what i say. you need to realise i have an opinion and because i dont agree with what you say. nurse billy and hag are about the only viable ones. oh yeah thats because mostly all you see people get used. even then they can be beaten. you need to go act self righteous elsewhere as if you have the right to dictate what someone else does. so honestly. get out of here with that indignation. adios. lol
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@PinkEricka said:
ShrimpTwiggs said:@PinkEricka said:
EqMonkVeeshan said:
@PinkEricka said: I’d like to take time to show to show my appreciation to this new patch and DLC, and to also show my gratitude to the devs since they don’t get much credit for their efforts! I’m really awed by the effort that is starting to come from BHVR. Thank you. This is truly amazing. I agree putting her in this way makes for very easy escapes props to BHVR for giving us survivors such a lacking killer to go against! I like how I put out a positive post and you have to litter it with a negative comment. Everyone has their own opinion on her. You think she’s terrible? Well good for you. I don’t care what you think nor did I ask you.
You’re ungrateful considering they made the arrangements to release this DLC on ALL platforms at the same time so none of us would be left out. They might be ######### at timing but you can tell they worked hard.
As much as I agree that the devs should be shown appreciation more, no one has to be asked to give their opinion on a forum. Sharing your opinion is what forums are for.
Nice point but I’d rather them not be so negative about it. Be more subtle and overt and they’ll surely have my respect.
yeah because being subtle and ignoring the issues that she is weak as piss. lol. and needs buffing. pandering to the devs mentality of "she needs nothing else doing" ie buffs. respect. bollocks to that. cant please everyone nor shouldnt have too or it be expected lol
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@EqMonkVeeshan said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
20 second cool down is a joke .... im sorry but her power makes her the weakest by far. and dont come giving me the crap of "mind games" in a chase she can barely catch up. great job on making the weakest killer their is by far minus freddy. probably only good thing about her is her perks ....sadly most of us was saying this in the PTB feedback area. alas we was told they didn't need/want feedback on the killers power as that was pretty much a done deal.
well. they should revise that opinion. for being so ignorant to it. sorry but that makes them morons ....
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@HellSpawn42 said:
I have played against and as her on the ps4 a lot today. Just from my time on the ps4 her speed is really good. To be honest it depends on who is playing her. In the hands of a new player they will have a hard time with her. But experienced killer mains should have no problems. Again let me state this is for console players not PC lol.yeah. theirs a big difference on ps4. i have ps4 too. i go their i can flatten the survivors. pc is entirely different lol ....
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@TheDarkLycan said:
dannyfrog87 said:@TheDarkLycan said:
TheShocktor said:
Based off my time with her since she's been out, I do agree her power does work against her. In my opinion SO FAR (subject to change later on) she seems to be the weakest killer. If survivors couldn't hear her coming while she is phase walking she would be much better. You can't really get the jump on survivors and that's what I thought she'd be good at. Her perks are all that's good about her. I know there's a lot of people who say oh you must just suck or get good but that's not the case. I'm not the best but I do well most of the time. I don't see anyone consistently 4 killing with her. Maybe there's some strategy or perk build i haven't figured out yet that will help but to me, for now, she's the worst on the roster.
People also said that no one would consistently 4k as Freddy but just look at me. A Freddy main though and through
pc or console? well. they must be noobs or its small maps. freddy can excel on small maps. still doesnt change the fact her movement speed and power cooldown works against her not for her. they buff that she will be some what viable. she shouldnt need an addon to see blood either. that to me is moronic ....
They were not noobs and I normally get coldwind or auto haven, I just know how to play Freddy so I can deal with almost any player
ok platform? well autohaven is easy for him its a small map he can keep the pressure on
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@TheDarkLycan said:
TheShocktor said:Based off my time with her since she's been out, I do agree her power does work against her. In my opinion SO FAR (subject to change later on) she seems to be the weakest killer. If survivors couldn't hear her coming while she is phase walking she would be much better. You can't really get the jump on survivors and that's what I thought she'd be good at. Her perks are all that's good about her. I know there's a lot of people who say oh you must just suck or get good but that's not the case. I'm not the best but I do well most of the time. I don't see anyone consistently 4 killing with her. Maybe there's some strategy or perk build i haven't figured out yet that will help but to me, for now, she's the worst on the roster.
People also said that no one would consistently 4k as Freddy but just look at me. A Freddy main though and through
pc or console? well. they must be noobs or its small maps. freddy can excel on small maps. still doesnt change the fact her movement speed and power cooldown works against her not for her. they buff that she will be some what viable. she shouldnt need an addon to see blood either. that to me is moronic ....
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@apropos said:
I still need to play her, but I'm skeptical of these complaints of her being too weak. I mean, every time I've seen someone try to play her on youtube (granted, I haven't watched much) people always try to use her ability to land on people - that's gonna be really hard to do. I really want to describe how I'm going to play her, but I really don't want to give it away. I will say this, her ability isn't only useful in catching up to survivors...well go play her then you wont be sceptical. you will see lol.
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@Supernaut said:
OK, so without the shouts of "git gud", "just mind game", "break the pallet" and claims to fairies at the bottom of the garden, what about some constructive suggestions as to how Spirit can be used as an effective killer?Freddy's supposed to be Trash tier, but can be incredibly effective when his power is used properly, so, what is the proper use of The Spirit's power?
to cut people off at loops or at least try or surprise them on gens or maybe some windows or possible killer shacks other than that id say nothing with her current weakness of cant track blood and 2 she cant see survivors. she is just meant to be lost in her world allowing survivors the feeling of comfort ah she cant see me il just double back and hide behind a wall or something. its how it is to me lol. but with her current cooldown if its a big building of 20 seconds their is not a chance she could block it off with her base movement speed of 110% https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Rin_Yamaoka
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@Thetruth said:
@PinkEricka said:
dannyfrog87 said:@PinkEricka said:
dannyfrog87 said:
@Peasant said: dannyfrog87 said:
so since this change basically the hit we would of got is now gone when they removed pallet vacuum or am i the only one who feels its like this? i tried with bing bong but nope the animation to bring the pallet down is so fast its absurd not to mention in the game i had the survivors 2 of them jumped the pallet but then twice in a row ended up back on my side lol then jumped back over again. not sure if that was latency or a general pallet issue? .... question is did this fix the issue though of being on the pallet side and going to throw it with no response when you press the button etc
The devs intentionally nerfed the pallet lunge hits. yeah its impossible to get a hit now great
So, you liked the fact Killers we’re getting bullshit hits lunging through pallets? wow.
so you like the fact your invincible now. more pandering to survivors when its easy enough as it is .... only issue i had was when being on the other side of the pallet and couldnt even throw it ....
LOL. Invincible? How does a pallet make survivors invincible? I don’t know, maybe... BREAK THE PALLET?????
There have been some survivor downgrades, ACTUAL balance changes, and killer buffs in this patch. I don’t see a reason to complain.
This dannyfrog sounds like a really piss poor killer. Hes already crying about the new killer saying she sucks
go play the killer. then come back to me. i played her in the ptb. i knew she was weak then. https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Rin_Yamaoka 110% movement speed and 20 seconds cooldown on her power. she is a noobstomper at best. piss poor. she isnt even viable freddy and bing bong aka wraith is better than her. my opinion is right. dont agree well not my problem
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@Supernaut said:
Hey, OP! I'm with you!So, if we can be constructive, what are you supposed to do with the Spirit's power?
Is she a chaser?
Does she get the drop at gens?
Is she a camper?As it stands i'm coming up with a whole bunch o nothing.
Also, for the ranking survivor thing.
I got to R1 w survivor and I am rubbish. Can't loop, can't juke, run in a straight line in a panic. Ranking as survivor is ezpz!well her movement speed needs a buff. or actually give her the ability back to track blood like it was in the ptb. btw she was bugged in the ptb being able too see it. so as it stands she relies on addons too much. for her cooldown being 20 seconds it should be 15 id say 10 but i know the devs will say thats too much probably. 110% movement speed ######### is that about? for a killers power that has such a stupid cooldown of 20 seconds also to top it off.
in her phase walk her world cant see blood only scratch marks. also at the moment her phase walk survivors seem to be notified of it when they shouldnt be another bug people mentioned. also she can be stack flashlight stunned instantly. all in all she is ######### and the worst killer. so she needs her power cool down to maybe 10 or 15 seconds her movement speed increased to 112% at least i say 115% but we all know the devs will be like op as one of them said buffing her cooldown would make her over powered lol. still i say she needs 115% movement speed. bing bong is better than her hell even freddy is lol .... he can track where as she cant only scratch marks. her power works against her.
and by the way to those of you who are saying you 4ked. i realised some of you are on console .... yeah console is nothing compared to how survivors play on pc especially in the lower ranks. haha is she a chaser hell no not with 110% movement speed she isnt. shes "supposed to get the drop or counter loops" in the open in a chase she is screwed. say a cornfield map she is done for because say she phase walks without blood tracking addons she might as well just stand their and be like where did they go lmao. she has no potential for map pressure whatsoever. till she gets buffed it will be a leatherface 2.0 good perks on her but other than that no practical application other than to feel powerless when you phase and to lose the survivor because she can only track scratch marks which can be inconsistent anyway.
yeah rank means nothing its easy to pip as survivor. its how competent survivors are. those are the things i can think of. freddy is more viable than her in some aspects and after his buff unless she gets some herself. he will be above her as a killer lol ... as always we will still see billy as killer or nurse as being the most viable. in her current state she wont ever be and hag ....
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@Jack11803 said:
The whole vacuum removal and this is all to add an intercept type chase. Vacuum was gone because it made no sense, the speed up now is because yeah, it’s pretty hard to hit now, but before it was too easy. This will definitely hurt killers, but remember they’re doing these changes ahead of time with the mindset of pallet looping being removed. Do not fear.hahaha you really believe that? pallet looping being removed. with the mindset pallet looping will always be a thing. lol @ do not fear. get out of here with that. how exactly would the survivor evade then being hit with nothing to jump over or escape. the maps mechanics favour pallets and the overall lack of verticality of maps. if it had actual buildings to close doors or barricade yourself in then pallet looping would be gone. seen as it doesnt. well pallets aint going anywhere or looping lol. oh yeah before it was too easy wahh now survivors need more of a safe zone. than the easy mode they already have. good grief lol
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@ShrimpTwiggs said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@ShrimpTwiggs said:
The patch literally just hit. Try to adjust to the changes instead of instantly yelling about it.adjust with 110% movement speed and 20 second cooldown on her power meanwhile cant see ######### or do anything lol .... ah yeah adapt to using such a weak killer ....
I was talking about the main post complaining about how hard the survivors are nerfed. I wasn't referring to the killer.
oh lol my bad. yeah survivors arent even nerfed on the level of killer period
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@fcc2014 said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@fcc2014 said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@fcc2014 said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
lol. the devs favour survivors always have. so honestly il say what im thinking and probably everyone else. a massive case of stfu .... shes weak her power cool down has 20 seconds. noobstomper for survivors she is thats about it. not to mention shes slow as [BAD WORD] 110% movement speed is a joke
Sounds like a fantastic business model make something everyone hates and than ask everyone to buy it.
well. she isnt strong and never will be knowing how these devs are pandering too survivors. 20 second cooldown of her power without addons and 110% movement speed. only a moron would think this was viable or good in the hands of anyone lol ....
Almost every killer without add ons is weak. That is why the grind sucks.
yeah thank [BAD WORD] for the double bps coming up lol .... take advantage of it while its their
The killer comes with in my opinion 3 very good and viable perks. I am willing to burn bloodpoints for add ons to make her viable and my other killers way more interesting with their load outs.
yeah another leatherface 2.0. he came with good perks or great ones. but as a killer he is #########. only good for camping can be looped for days. good grief i just realised in some respects hes better than her. never thought id say that lmao.
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@ShrimpTwiggs said:
The patch literally just hit. Try to adjust to the changes instead of instantly yelling about it.adjust with 110% movement speed and 20 second cooldown on her power meanwhile cant see ######### or do anything lol .... ah yeah adapt to using such a weak killer ....
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@fcc2014 said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@fcc2014 said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
lol. the devs favour survivors always have. so honestly il say what im thinking and probably everyone else. a massive case of stfu .... shes weak her power cool down has 20 seconds. noobstomper for survivors she is thats about it. not to mention shes slow as [BAD WORD] 110% movement speed is a joke
Sounds like a fantastic business model make something everyone hates and than ask everyone to buy it.
well. she isnt strong and never will be knowing how these devs are pandering too survivors. 20 second cooldown of her power without addons and 110% movement speed. only a moron would think this was viable or good in the hands of anyone lol ....
Almost every killer without add ons is weak. That is why the grind sucks.
yeah thank ######### for the double bps coming up lol .... take advantage of it while its their
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@ChesterTheMolester said:
Dont get me wrong Wraith is currently better than he used to be.I wanna say the positive first: His addons are amazing and have so much synergy with each other and many perks, its a lot of fun experimenting.
But i think BHVR simply reverted his old uncloak movement speed, which is bad cause he doesnt build up much speed towards the end, which causes him to waste a lot of his speed burst on his acceleration and not get enough distance covered to be reliable.
Please increase his movement speed to 126% towards the end of the Uncloak or increase it to 1,5 seconds.
i noticed that he loses the speed after uncloaking even with addons .... unless he right up their ass to get the hit he has to keep chasing. idk to me he felt better in the ptb but maybe i was just happy he was getting buffed who knows lol .... coming out of he is fast but not enough to get close to a survivor idk if its just me who feels or thinks its that way
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@fcc2014 said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
lol. the devs favour survivors always have. so honestly il say what im thinking and probably everyone else. a massive case of stfu .... shes weak her power cool down has 20 seconds. noobstomper for survivors she is thats about it. not to mention shes slow as [BAD WORD] 110% movement speed is a joke
Sounds like a fantastic business model make something everyone hates and than ask everyone to buy it.
well. she isnt strong and never will be knowing how these devs are pandering too survivors. 20 second cooldown of her power without addons and 110% movement speed. only a moron would think this was viable or good in the hands of anyone lol ....
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@Gemasuda said:
Before patch - Averaged 15-20k BP, now with new Killer Spirit, instant ######### and tunnelling. Now 8-12 k average. Let’s also take away looping areas and self heal etc etc. Guess we know who the devs favor.lol. the devs favour survivors always have. so honestly il say what im thinking and probably everyone else. a massive case of stfu .... shes weak her power cool down has 20 seconds. noobstomper for survivors she is thats about it. not to mention shes slow as ######### 110% movement speed is a joke
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@PinkEricka said:
dannyfrog87 said:@PinkEricka said:
dannyfrog87 said:
@PinkEricka said: dannyfrog87 said:
@PinkEricka said: dannyfrog87 said:
@PinkEricka said: dannyfrog87 said:
@Peasant said: dannyfrog87 said:
so since this change basically the hit we would of got is now gone when they removed pallet vacuum or am i the only one who feels its like this? i tried with bing bong but nope the animation to bring the pallet down is so fast its absurd not to mention in the game i had the survivors 2 of them jumped the pallet but then twice in a row ended up back on my side lol then jumped back over again. not sure if that was latency or a general pallet issue? .... question is did this fix the issue though of being on the pallet side and going to throw it with no response when you press the button etc
The devs intentionally nerfed the pallet lunge hits. yeah its impossible to get a hit now great
So, you liked the fact Killers we’re getting bullshit hits lunging through pallets? wow. so you like the fact your invincible now. more pandering to survivors when its easy enough as it is .... only issue i had was when being on the other side of the pallet and couldnt even throw it .... LOL. Invincible? How does a pallet make survivors invincible? I don’t know, maybe... BREAK THE PALLET?????
There have been some survivor downgrades, ACTUAL balance changes, and killer buffs in this patch. I don’t see a reason to complain. well yeah considering before i can get a hit the pallet makes them completely invincible unless jumping over it for the vacuum. yeah on badham break all the pallets without a single hit or other maps that are pallet favoured. they made it more of a safe zone for survivors. who cares if you dont see a reason. the killer buffs are not that good. badham is still infinite central but now survivors with being able to throw a pallet quicker makes it more of a safe zone for them than actually fearing the killer.
I apologize. I thought you were talking about the pallets in general. no i was trying to get a hit on that map led to one pallet after another another .... to not get a single hit they can throw the pallet damn quick making them completely invincible unless you have a mind gaming killer who can block them off which is only probably bing bong or spirit even then its situational .... they throw the pallet that quick i go for the hit i dont even get stunned by it lol .... yeah thats how much of a mess it is i havent been stunned by a pallet yet since this new update Then either break the pallet or try to mindgame the survivor. You can mindgame a survivor without having a mind game killer... it isn’t hard lol.
No idea if they’re going to try and change the pallets again though. Perhaps not since there’s a good chance they’re all out of solutions for it?
yeah break all the pallets on badham by then all the gens are done. or 3 at least pretty good job so far. without getting a single hit unless they fast vault and i manage to get a lucky hit. well. how they did it now. they ######### up. for one as killer i havent been stunned since the change they throw them that quickly lol. they do this making it more safe for survivors but its now a double ended sword as not even getting stunned when they throw it down ....
Okay, well if a survivor is wasting that much of your time then break the chase and go find another survivor.
Id say it’s 50/50 now that killers don’t get BS hits and they don’t get a stun. Hopefully, it’ll be fixed soon.
not even close as the pallet throws down instantly so the result is to always miss and the animation is so quick no killer stun .... so yeah survivors got an instant safety net to not being hit but a double ended sword like i said to no stun happening now. pretty good job so far lol
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@PinkEricka said:
dannyfrog87 said:@PinkEricka said:
dannyfrog87 said:
@PinkEricka said: dannyfrog87 said:
@PinkEricka said: dannyfrog87 said:
@Peasant said: dannyfrog87 said:
so since this change basically the hit we would of got is now gone when they removed pallet vacuum or am i the only one who feels its like this? i tried with bing bong but nope the animation to bring the pallet down is so fast its absurd not to mention in the game i had the survivors 2 of them jumped the pallet but then twice in a row ended up back on my side lol then jumped back over again. not sure if that was latency or a general pallet issue? .... question is did this fix the issue though of being on the pallet side and going to throw it with no response when you press the button etc
The devs intentionally nerfed the pallet lunge hits. yeah its impossible to get a hit now great
So, you liked the fact Killers we’re getting bullshit hits lunging through pallets? wow. so you like the fact your invincible now. more pandering to survivors when its easy enough as it is .... only issue i had was when being on the other side of the pallet and couldnt even throw it .... LOL. Invincible? How does a pallet make survivors invincible? I don’t know, maybe... BREAK THE PALLET?????
There have been some survivor downgrades, ACTUAL balance changes, and killer buffs in this patch. I don’t see a reason to complain. well yeah considering before i can get a hit the pallet makes them completely invincible unless jumping over it for the vacuum. yeah on badham break all the pallets without a single hit or other maps that are pallet favoured. they made it more of a safe zone for survivors. who cares if you dont see a reason. the killer buffs are not that good. badham is still infinite central but now survivors with being able to throw a pallet quicker makes it more of a safe zone for them than actually fearing the killer.
I apologize. I thought you were talking about the pallets in general.
no i was trying to get a hit on that map led to one pallet after another another .... to not get a single hit they can throw the pallet damn quick making them completely invincible unless you have a mind gaming killer who can block them off which is only probably bing bong or spirit even then its situational .... they throw the pallet that quick i go for the hit i dont even get stunned by it lol .... yeah thats how much of a mess it is i havent been stunned by a pallet yet since this new update
Then either break the pallet or try to mindgame the survivor. You can mindgame a survivor without having a mind game killer... it isn’t hard lol.
No idea if they’re going to try and change the pallets again though. Perhaps not since there’s a good chance they’re all out of solutions for it?
yeah break all the pallets on badham by then all the gens are done. or 3 at least pretty good job so far. without getting a single hit unless they fast vault and i manage to get a lucky hit. well. how they did it now. they ######### up. for one as killer i havent been stunned since the change they throw them that quickly lol. they do this making it more safe for survivors but its now a double ended sword as not even getting stunned when they throw it down ....
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@TheDarkLycan said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@TheDarkLycan said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@TheDarkLycan said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@TheDarkLycan said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@chemical_reject said:
She's been out for less then a couple hours......Git gudshe was also in the ptb i and many others tried her. so with your "git gud" get out of here with that. you tried to play her? if not then shut up
are you sure you're not just bad? she clearly is good since i could 4k a rank3 lobby with no perksXD
bad i hooked 2 of them so no. im not. ok show me a video where you 4k every game. dont act as if the 20 seconds cool down wont be irritating. 4k if they make mistakes are utter noobs. she will be a noobstomper not a viable killer.
i never said 4k EVERY game and the 20 cooldown doesnt matter if you can learn to mindgame at pallets and make people think that you have your power back
and what if your not at a pallet and in the open how do you mind game that? yeah exactly. aka the cornfield maps or any areas with collision or vaultable areas .... neither did i. can you 4k more than one game in a row with her. i bloody doubt it lol .... her power works against her. she will be a noobstomper unless she gets buffed nothing else to say
why would you use her power in the open anyways? bloodlust would be better in that case and if i tried then yes i could get consistent 4k's
lol bloodlust would be better. yeah i tried that chasing a survivor round not using her power then i decided i was forced to use it. also they nerfed bloodlusts speed yeah .... sure you could. do it then. then upload a video proving you can 4k consistently. it still stands her power doesnt work for her it works against her. same as freddy except he will be stronger than her if he gets the right buff. which is moronic ....
trash talking my main XD freddies power doesnt really work against him, every one says he is bad and sh't but he is really good if you have the skill to play him right. same with spirit
hahaha freddys power doesnt work against him i stopped reading when i read that. takes 7 seconds to put someone asleep. cant stop someone healing cant stop you unhooking cant stop or interrupt you doing anything yeah about how it doesnt work against him. lol @ really good skill to play him. he is the weakest killer by far. if only people make mistakes like any killer they go up against makes him good. he needs addons to be even anywhere close to being mediocre. the devs steam rolled freddy into the ground.
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@PinkEricka said:
dannyfrog87 said:@PinkEricka said:
dannyfrog87 said:
@PinkEricka said: dannyfrog87 said:
@Peasant said: dannyfrog87 said:
so since this change basically the hit we would of got is now gone when they removed pallet vacuum or am i the only one who feels its like this? i tried with bing bong but nope the animation to bring the pallet down is so fast its absurd not to mention in the game i had the survivors 2 of them jumped the pallet but then twice in a row ended up back on my side lol then jumped back over again. not sure if that was latency or a general pallet issue? .... question is did this fix the issue though of being on the pallet side and going to throw it with no response when you press the button etc
The devs intentionally nerfed the pallet lunge hits. yeah its impossible to get a hit now great
So, you liked the fact Killers we’re getting bullshit hits lunging through pallets? wow. so you like the fact your invincible now. more pandering to survivors when its easy enough as it is .... only issue i had was when being on the other side of the pallet and couldnt even throw it .... LOL. Invincible? How does a pallet make survivors invincible? I don’t know, maybe... BREAK THE PALLET?????
There have been some survivor downgrades, ACTUAL balance changes, and killer buffs in this patch. I don’t see a reason to complain.
well yeah considering before i can get a hit the pallet makes them completely invincible unless jumping over it for the vacuum. yeah on badham break all the pallets without a single hit or other maps that are pallet favoured. they made it more of a safe zone for survivors. who cares if you dont see a reason. the killer buffs are not that good. badham is still infinite central but now survivors with being able to throw a pallet quicker makes it more of a safe zone for them than actually fearing the killer.
I apologize. I thought you were talking about the pallets in general.
no i was trying to get a hit on that map led to one pallet after another another .... to not get a single hit they can throw the pallet damn quick making them completely invincible unless you have a mind gaming killer who can block them off which is only probably bing bong or spirit even then its situational .... they throw the pallet that quick i go for the hit i dont even get stunned by it lol .... yeah thats how much of a mess it is i havent been stunned by a pallet yet since this new update
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yeah without it they probably would of got flattened instantly. exactly. noobs.
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@TheDarkLycan said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@TheDarkLycan said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@TheDarkLycan said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@chemical_reject said:
She's been out for less then a couple hours......Git gudshe was also in the ptb i and many others tried her. so with your "git gud" get out of here with that. you tried to play her? if not then shut up
are you sure you're not just bad? she clearly is good since i could 4k a rank3 lobby with no perksXD
bad i hooked 2 of them so no. im not. ok show me a video where you 4k every game. dont act as if the 20 seconds cool down wont be irritating. 4k if they make mistakes are utter noobs. she will be a noobstomper not a viable killer.
i never said 4k EVERY game and the 20 cooldown doesnt matter if you can learn to mindgame at pallets and make people think that you have your power back
and what if your not at a pallet and in the open how do you mind game that? yeah exactly. aka the cornfield maps or any areas with collision or vaultable areas .... neither did i. can you 4k more than one game in a row with her. i bloody doubt it lol .... her power works against her. she will be a noobstomper unless she gets buffed nothing else to say
why would you use her power in the open anyways? bloodlust would be better in that case and if i tried then yes i could get consistent 4k's
lol bloodlust would be better. yeah i tried that chasing a survivor round not using her power then i decided i was forced to use it. also they nerfed bloodlusts speed yeah .... sure you could. do it then. then upload a video proving you can 4k consistently. it still stands her power doesnt work for her it works against her. same as freddy except he will be stronger than her if he gets the right buff. which is moronic ....
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@TheDarkLycan said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@TheDarkLycan said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@TheDarkLycan said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@TheDarkLycan said:
cooldown is fine, just dont use her full duration at once.and what if im in a chase. cooldown is not fine at all. so im not supposed to use it then? she is addon dependent she will only be a noob stomper.
you just need time to learn her playstyle, plus i just 4k'd with her at rank 3 so clearly she isnt a noob stomper
rank means nothing if the survivors are competent they must of been noobs if you managed to wreck them. let me guess you was using addons. without she is useless her power but thats my opinion
i had no addons actually
well. they was a bunch of noobs then. rank means nothing.
4man p3 claudettes with DS SC BT and SB and 2 BNP and 2 insta medkits but they were noobs?
that means nothing they just grinded out the time and the points. you think bringing all that makes them not a noob? they can still be braindead as survivors lol
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@TheDarkLycan said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@TheDarkLycan said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@chemical_reject said:
She's been out for less then a couple hours......Git gudshe was also in the ptb i and many others tried her. so with your "git gud" get out of here with that. you tried to play her? if not then shut up
are you sure you're not just bad? she clearly is good since i could 4k a rank3 lobby with no perksXD
bad i hooked 2 of them so no. im not. ok show me a video where you 4k every game. dont act as if the 20 seconds cool down wont be irritating. 4k if they make mistakes are utter noobs. she will be a noobstomper not a viable killer.
i never said 4k EVERY game and the 20 cooldown doesnt matter if you can learn to mindgame at pallets and make people think that you have your power back
and what if your not at a pallet and in the open how do you mind game that? yeah exactly. aka the cornfield maps or any areas with collision or vaultable areas .... neither did i. can you 4k more than one game in a row with her. i bloody doubt it lol .... her power works against her. she will be a noobstomper unless she gets buffed nothing else to say
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@PinkEricka said:
dannyfrog87 said:@PinkEricka said:
dannyfrog87 said:
@Peasant said: dannyfrog87 said:
so since this change basically the hit we would of got is now gone when they removed pallet vacuum or am i the only one who feels its like this? i tried with bing bong but nope the animation to bring the pallet down is so fast its absurd not to mention in the game i had the survivors 2 of them jumped the pallet but then twice in a row ended up back on my side lol then jumped back over again. not sure if that was latency or a general pallet issue? .... question is did this fix the issue though of being on the pallet side and going to throw it with no response when you press the button etc
The devs intentionally nerfed the pallet lunge hits. yeah its impossible to get a hit now great
So, you liked the fact Killers we’re getting bullshit hits lunging through pallets? wow.
so you like the fact your invincible now. more pandering to survivors when its easy enough as it is .... only issue i had was when being on the other side of the pallet and couldnt even throw it ....
LOL. Invincible? How does a pallet make survivors invincible? I don’t know, maybe... BREAK THE PALLET?????
There have been some survivor downgrades, ACTUAL balance changes, and killer buffs in this patch. I don’t see a reason to complain.
well yeah considering before i can get a hit the pallet makes them completely invincible unless jumping over it for the vacuum. yeah on badham break all the pallets without a single hit or other maps that are pallet favoured. they made it more of a safe zone for survivors. who cares if you dont see a reason. the killer buffs are not that good. badham is still infinite central but now survivors with being able to throw a pallet quicker makes it more of a safe zone for them than actually fearing the killer.
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@TheDarkLycan said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@chemical_reject said:
She's been out for less then a couple hours......Git gudshe was also in the ptb i and many others tried her. so with your "git gud" get out of here with that. you tried to play her? if not then shut up
are you sure you're not just bad? she clearly is good since i could 4k a rank3 lobby with no perksXD
bad i hooked 2 of them so no. im not. ok show me a video where you 4k every game. dont act as if the 20 seconds cool down wont be irritating. 4k if they make mistakes are utter noobs. she will be a noobstomper not a viable killer.
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@TheDarkLycan said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@TheDarkLycan said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@TheDarkLycan said:
cooldown is fine, just dont use her full duration at once.and what if im in a chase. cooldown is not fine at all. so im not supposed to use it then? she is addon dependent she will only be a noob stomper.
you just need time to learn her playstyle, plus i just 4k'd with her at rank 3 so clearly she isnt a noob stomper
rank means nothing if the survivors are competent they must of been noobs if you managed to wreck them. let me guess you was using addons. without she is useless her power but thats my opinion
i had no addons actually
well. they was a bunch of noobs then. rank means nothing.
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@Orion said:
Try to get used to her first. While I do agree that her power hurts her more than it helps her, I'm holding off on saying so until I've had a long time to play her, to see if I'm right or not.exactly. you hit the nail on the head hurts her more then it helps .... people mentioned buffing her one of the devs said it would make her too "op" utter bullshit. it would help her not be addon dependent. oh come on if we can figure that out now and in the ptb .... yeah it says it all.
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@PinkEricka said:
dannyfrog87 said:@Peasant said:
dannyfrog87 said:
so since this change basically the hit we would of got is now gone when they removed pallet vacuum or am i the only one who feels its like this? i tried with bing bong but nope the animation to bring the pallet down is so fast its absurd not to mention in the game i had the survivors 2 of them jumped the pallet but then twice in a row ended up back on my side lol then jumped back over again. not sure if that was latency or a general pallet issue? .... question is did this fix the issue though of being on the pallet side and going to throw it with no response when you press the button etc
The devs intentionally nerfed the pallet lunge hits.
yeah its impossible to get a hit now great
So, you liked the fact Killers we’re getting bullshit hits lunging through pallets? wow.
so you like the fact your invincible now. more pandering to survivors when its easy enough as it is .... only issue i had was when being on the other side of the pallet and couldnt even throw it ....
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@TheDarkLycan said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@TheDarkLycan said:
cooldown is fine, just dont use her full duration at once.and what if im in a chase. cooldown is not fine at all. so im not supposed to use it then? she is addon dependent she will only be a noob stomper.
you just need time to learn her playstyle, plus i just 4k'd with her at rank 3 so clearly she isnt a noob stomper
rank means nothing if the survivors are competent they must of been noobs if you managed to wreck them. let me guess you was using addons. without she is useless her power but thats my opinion
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@chemical_reject said:
She's been out for less then a couple hours......Git gudshe was also in the ptb i and many others tried her. so with your "git gud" get out of here with that. you tried to play her? if not then shut up
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@Iceman said:
dannyfrog87 said:20 second cool down is a joke .... im sorry but her power makes her the weakest by far. and dont come giving me the crap of "mind games" in a chase she can barely catch up. great job on making the weakest killer their is by far minus freddy. probably only good thing about her is her perks ....
Did you play on the ptb? If not then I think you should form your own opinion after a few days of playing her. And even if you did play on the ptb it wouldn’t be accurate enough due to the fact that people was barely able to find a match.
However I am not saying you are not entitled to your opinion, just stating the fact that it would be better when you actually given her a chance instead of going based off what others have said
Which is what I am going to do when I get a chance to play her.
yeah i did play her even then i thought it was a joke .... her cooldown is ridiculous plus her movement speed only way i manage to get anyone was when they made mistakes minus one pallet mind game. im not basing it off of what others have said so dont give me that. ive used her enough to know. hell freddy can do more than she can lol. more so when he gets buffed. even bing bong is better than her
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@TheDarkLycan said:
cooldown is fine, just dont use her full duration at once.and what if im in a chase. cooldown is not fine at all. so im not supposed to use it then? she is addon dependent she will only be a noob stomper.
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@Peasant said:
dannyfrog87 said:so since this change basically the hit we would of got is now gone when they removed pallet vacuum or am i the only one who feels its like this? i tried with bing bong but nope the animation to bring the pallet down is so fast its absurd not to mention in the game i had the survivors 2 of them jumped the pallet but then twice in a row ended up back on my side lol then jumped back over again. not sure if that was latency or a general pallet issue? .... question is did this fix the issue though of being on the pallet side and going to throw it with no response when you press the button etc
The devs intentionally nerfed the pallet lunge hits.
yeah its impossible to get a hit now great
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@AnotherRandy said:
dannyfrog87 said:@AnotherRandy said:
I know that Gameusersettings.ini was always allowed to edit for better performance back then. How about engine.ini is that allowed aswell?
I need an official yes or no, I don't want to risk a ban but I don't want to miss the opportunity for more and stable fps either.
i uncapped the frame rate months ago. it isnt bannable to do that. but i wouldnt mess with anything else.
Hmm, anything official from devs? Is here a possibility to get a direct question and answer to the devs?
well considering all i did was uncap my fps i didnt modify any actual game files that alter the games state. its not bannable honestly. the devs will say eac could flag or if it does they wont unban. but your not modifying files to give your self an advantage just better fps. you can do that in any game uncap them
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@thesuicidefox said:
@dannyfrog87 said:
@thesuicidefox said:
@AshleyWB said:
I have to say that for killer to win Everyone must die. That's how I see it. It's a killer v survivor game. 1 survivor escapes the killer has lost.
Maybe I'm just setting the bar high.
Isn't it how it's supposed to be. Should be only 1 winner.
I guess it's the games balance coming into question again.This is the exact problem with the people that play this game.
Killers think they NEED to kill to win. Survivors think they NEED to escape to win. No a pip is a win in this game. You can die and still pip as survivor just like you can not kill anyone and still pip as killer.
Players need to accept that some survivors die, some survivors escape.
they do. pipping to some of us means nothing. your a killer ie the objective is too kill. no one needs to accept anything they can play or expect to kill how they want. not hampered by a stupid [BAD WORD] eye rolling mind numbing stand off that is the hatch. i lose braincells every time it happens. so i just walk away now but half of the time when i walk away idiots still dont take it or do nothing taking the game hostage like a pleb .... thats another reason standoff needs to go
You can always hit them. If they still don't leave, hit them again. If they STILL don't leave, pick them up. If they have DS they will run back to the hatch. Go hit them again. If they have still yet to leave, then you hook them and they die. Nothing is stopping the game from ending but YOU. I can understand a survivor staying in the game and playing super immersed, but if you know where they are eventually you will kill them. It's not holding the game hostage if you can do something about it.
and what about walking away? and they still holding the game hostage suppose i can hit them can i? if i cant find them lol .... oh nothing is stopping the game ending but me. honestly. your just using tunnel vision not seeing the big picture. it damn well is holding the game hostage if they dont do a gen or try to take the hatch when its open knowing full well they can leave. nothing more to say to you with your "logic" or the lack of it. the survivor holds the power with the hatch standoff anyone with half a brain knows this. you just dont want the hatch being able to be closed then or the killer to actually have some power over the situation. honestly lol .... and you just brought up ds. ok im just going to ignore you now. get stunned by ds hit them again when im stunned by that point they are at the hatch and wait for me to hit them which is flat out annoying. tunnel vision survivor main logic you just presented me. good evening to you lol.