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@MeltingPenguins said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1472233#Comment_1472233
oh, I was talking about a compilation of players NOT you. Because by the sound of it you deem me and people who don't drop dead instantly when facing Caleb or PH the exception or something
I dont drop dead either but I also lost the file but the point of the video was to showcase the lose Lose situations of PH.
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@MeltingPenguins said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1472229#Comment_1472229
if you can show me one that it's 100% impossible to counter them
I got a video of me playing executioner and showcasing the lack of counterplay I might as well upload it to youtube on private and add the link.
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@MeltingPenguins said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471897#Comment_1471897
you say that's easy, I say countering PH and Deathslinger is easy. I wonder how it can be that I perceive one thing as easy while you don't... mhnnn
If you can show me video proof of you consistently countering a good deathslinger/PH then bet.
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@Hoodied said:
I can tell you never played Pyramid Head
Pyramid Head has a short delay after canceling his rites of judgement, preventing him from swinging instantly. He has alot of counterplay as well, infact his counter is literally baiting him to use his ranged attack and vaulting the window after it ends. The ranged attack isn’t that wide you know, and its pretty short ranged. Gonna add this in, why so I keep seeing people say he doesn’t have an attack delay, I have held down RT (or M1 for you PC gamers) and it doesn’t immediately swing afterwards.
Deathslinger is a 110% M/S killer, his power is meant to be strong as its gonna be the easiest way for him to get the survivors, his counterplay is not being predictable and his quick scope is pretty predictable as it is, most Deathslingers tend to try and get a straight shot before going for the quick scope, so once he starts trying to not zone you out be unpredictable.
I have an 8 minute video of me swinging right after canceling the sword in the ground.
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@BigTimeGamer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1472134#Comment_1472134
- Saying to bring X perk isn't counterplay, its guessing its a Spirit
- The "change direction" point is null if;
- She has Stridor
- She stands still and watches you then phases since you have 0 distance
- "waste her time" when even a mediocre spirit can end chases within 15-30 seconds
"killer mains" can try and defend it as much as they like but the truth is Spirit needs to be brought in line with the others, and yes I do like killers who have to chase me, given how that is the point of the game
Worded that perfectly.
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@Khar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471834#Comment_1471834
I mean, is anyone taking YOU seriously? lmao
Gotta be like what 100+ comments but idk XD
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@MeltingPenguins said:
Most of what you describe is semi-balanced counterplay. Everything more would make it skew it very much in favor of the survivors.
With Spirit, though, the main issue I noticed (personally) is that a lot of people 'phase-camp'. And yes, Spirit on paper has a harder time locating survivors than wraith, but in practice it's just as easy (I mean, even I can get my hits in and I'm usually horrible at that) as for other killers.
I think in general one thing to change would be making looking behind you easier, maybe through a keybind.
Spirit needs some tweaking to disable phase-camping, which I dare say would make her unattractive to a lot of high ranks for a start
Looking behind you is piss easy but I can respect your opinion but you havent provided me counterplay to none.
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@SloppyKnockout said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471844#Comment_1471844
You obviously haven't been around the forum very long, then. Every time there's a nerf/buff, there's an uproar from the portion of the community that it effects negatively. It's not even debatable. It's factual.
Issue is, killers seem to get the ######### end of the stick more times than not.
Yes that's true but the majority of the time it is killer dominated I have witnessed it they are lost daily about DS.
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@SloppyKnockout said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471663#Comment_1471663
The forums aren't infested with one or the other more. It's a reflections of things happening. Like, when balance landing was nerfed, the forums were filled with survivors crying about it because it was unnecessary and was basically done as a bandaid fix for haddonfield making it situationally OP. Forums are filled with defensive killers now because Billy is being nerfed, when we all know nobody with a brain asked for it.
Nah man been reading through these posts even before I made an account seems more populated by killer mains and b landing nerd was unjustified it was the map design but I rather not talk about that because.thats besides the point.
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@SpaceCoconut said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471631#Comment_1471631
Talking about proving points, I really like how you completely ignored Orion's response lol
What did he say link me the post.
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@Khar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471631#Comment_1471631
You say the forums have a killer bias. I say devs have a survivor bias. Which one actually makes a difference? 🤣
Is anyone taking you seriously?
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471774#Comment_1471774
Thanks.
It’s just a little tiring seeing the “us vs them” responses.
Its clear the OP is frustrated. Thus it’s implied they’re having trouble in these scenarios. We come to the forums for help, maybe debate, but all too often it divulges into attacks and WAY too much unfounded speculation on how toxic the other person probably plays.
We all just want to play the game.
We all just want to have fun.
We all just want to improve our skills.
Exactly now you have people attacking OP instead of providing the help he clearly wants. It's actually disgusting tbh can we not come together and help one another we are part of the same community.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471584#Comment_1471584
No, that’s just a redirect.
Thats you not taking responsibility for your “original” answer that strongly implied YOU know the appropriate counter.
You could have just said “I don’t know, but here’s a YouTube link for you that should help” as one example.
You are a cool guy man ngl I like your responses to these people.
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@Dreamnomad said:
There really is a big bias towards killers on the forums. Which I have always found interesting. One would assume that there are more survivor mains than killer mains since for a game to start there needs to be 4 survivors for every killer. If there were an even number of players on both roles then it would take 4 times as long to find a game as a killer than as a survivor. But that isn't the case. In fact, under *normal conditions* I find games faster as a killer than as a survivor. This would suggest that there are fewer than 20% of active players choosing the role of killer. And yet there is unquestionably a bias in favor of killers on the forums. Is it just a very vocal minority?
*Normal conditions being not the few weeks after a new killer is released or during an event.
It is interesting survivors make up the majority yet the forums are infested with killer mains?
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@Raven014 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471548#Comment_1471548
I dont tunnel. Even with no obsession. It just ruins the fun for the person being tunneled. Most killers would not tunnel if given the chance. If survivor sided imbalance wasn't an issue. But some killers would still tunnel regardless of if DS is used or not. And once its gone, it is gone for good.
It does not stop anyone from tunneling. Besides, PH existing means that DS isn't always reliable.
And, on top of that, I have seen more survivors attempt to use DS offensively instead of the purpose most give it right now: that of an anti-tunnel perk.
DS needs another rework. It is too versatile. For too much reward. For failing at the one main goal: to survive.
Man the release of PH showed killers would tunnel if the opportunity arises. You are speaking for you personally I respect that you care for others fun.but keep it real here.
Yeah DS is used offensively but it isnt an anti tunnel perk its anti momentum so all I can tell you is either eat the ds or the unbreakable because that's usually combo'd with it. Then when there is no more unbreakable slug.
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@Khar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471474#Comment_1471474
Again. So what?
You are litterly proving my post right that's what.
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@SpaceCoconut said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471587#Comment_1471587
Have you played with other survivors? Why would I want to put myself through that lol
I don't like playing on teams because I don't like carrying the bad team nor being carried by a good team.
I prefer solo which is the Killer role.
I can understand you on why you dont play survivor but that isnt an excuse for you to make a bunch of claims about survivor without experience.
If I said I prefer survivor and dont like playing killer because I like teams and then made a claim like nurse needs another nerf I'd get swarmed by a bunch of people.
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@SloppyKnockout said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471595#Comment_1471595
It doesn't matter if he hardly plays survivor. This isn't about experience (which I have more of than all of you, again, if we're going to go there), this is about common sense. When your solution is "make it so this killer can't use this perk", it's SUPER FREAKING GOOD that you aren't on the dev team.
But if killers came in here and said "Make it players can't use DS/BT/Unbreakable together", you'd ######### all over it.
Once again I never said make the combos not work with killer I just said I have a problem with one and think its unfair. Stop putting words in my mouth. Also just because you have more hours than me I'm only about 2.1k+ doesnt mean I dont understand the game.
Just like @Hazerino you cant claim to know a side you dont play. If I said nerf billy and also said I dont play killer just watch I'd have a bunch of killers telling me I'm wrong right?
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@SloppyKnockout said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471581#Comment_1471581
I'm aware - I'm just saying you're dismissing someones opinion when even a blindfolded, deafened, stuck in a closet Stevie Wonder could see that this isn't about opinion. This is common sense.
X killer shouldn't be allowed to run X perk because it works with their power.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471578#Comment_1471578
I've likely got more experience then you - and he's right./
I never said I was against all the power/perk combos only one I have an issue with is stridor spirit because it actual makes her quite literally uncounterable. Dont assume anything and the reason I dismissed his opinion is because he *hardly* plays survivor not to mention he isnt even *good*.
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@SpaceCoconut said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471565#Comment_1471565
Through the powers of observation and analysis of 2500 hours of gameplay against survivors of all skill levels.
So you got 2.5k hours yet you still hardly play survivor. You have only looked and barely experienced your opinions are biased.
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@SloppyKnockout said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471559#Comment_1471559
I have nearly 4200 hours in game. More than half of it is survivor. Every character, survivor and killer, P3'd with all perks.
It's a stupid idea.
There, how's that for a valid opinion? Tell me a way my opinion isn't valid, even though it's not an opinion, it's just common sense.
Wasnt even talking about you but alright.
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How can you form an opinion on one side without being even remotely good or putting in a decent amount of hours?
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@SpaceCoconut said:
We can do this if survivors can't pair certain perks together either.
Object with everything else.
Second Chance perks with other second chance perks
insert more examples here.
You need to play survivor more before you share your opinion.
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@Exxodus21 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471457#Comment_1471457
Figure it out for yourself. There's plenty of video out there of people doing it. If you aren't smart enough or skilled enough to do something other than using pallet loops as a crutch you'll never beat high tier killers.
You said the only defense survivors have is a crutch? You trolling right?
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@ Antares2332 said:
Ok so if we put it that way survivors shouldn't use DH, DS, adrenaline and other meta perks.
If survivors couldnt use ds killers would hard tunnel deny that right now.
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@ReaperTech said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1471168#Comment_1471168
Ok that’s fair but it’s still a really weak perk. I think they could change it.
Its weak but still fun to meme with.
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@ReaperTech said:
I feel like Unrelenting removes the skill factor of hitting yourself attacks as killer. In general if a new player runs Unrelenting they are not gonna adapt to needing to aim your attacks. I think it also is just a useless perk that teaches bad behavior to new players as killer. Idk I wanna hear your thoughts.
I run the perk because you can use it to stop loops. After the survivor gets two loops lunge early if they go for a third loop you get a free hit I love that perk.
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@Orion said:
The forum is "killer biased" for the same reason firefighters are "biased" toward dry, hot areas - they're in a worse situation than the alternatives.
Admitting that one side has it worse is not "bias", it's just recognizing the facts. Argument to moderation is a fallacy. In the vast majority of cases, one side has it worse than the other(s).
You didnt even read my post I gave my reasons to why I think its killer biased you ignored them.
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@Swiftblade131 said:
The post itself sounds pretty biased.
How explain?
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@TheButcher said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1470594#Comment_1470594
Sure. Here you go;
After using this forum for some time the amount of killer bias here is insane. Any thing that even slightly benefits survivors is looked down upon. I think the main reason for this bias is do to the fact that in the past survivors were op but nowadays they arent that strong.
The reason for that is simply because in the game right now Survivors are far too powerful, for a multitude of reasons that isn't only summed up to SWF.
But because of the effects of 2016-rarly 2018 real survivor problems are ignored and that's not good. If we continue to ignore problems survivors face the player base will decline and the killer wait times will increase and inevitably the game will die.
We will never see a decline in survivors. As right now the game is being kept afloat by the survivor base alone. BHVR has been dealing with an issue that the Killers have been leaving in masses, so much to the point where they reworked the matchmaking twice to try and save newer Killer's from getting in games with 4man swat teams. Like I find it funny you answer me with "nice stawman argument", but you have yet to even mention any argument at all other than "Killer's OP, Survivors Weak, Please Buff"
Killer mains stop looking at survivors as someone out to ruin your game and look st them as a human wanting to have fun playing too.
Survivors stop looking at Killer's as an NPC, and start treating them like humans that want to enjoy the game too? I'm not seeing where you are going with this post, when even in addition to the game being unbalanced in the Survivors favor, but there is even a huge problem where Killer's are being verbally harrassed after each match - win or lose. As far as being told to kill themselves, and the entire list of deragatory terms. This past month alone I have sent in over 30 support tickets Survivors calling me the "N" Word alone.
I'm tired of the us vs them mentality why cant it be just "us." Why can't we look at all the problems as a whole and work to fix them. I ask killer mains and survivor mains alike play the opposite side and get good at it try to understand their struggles.
Literally threads like these further spread the "Us VS Them" mentality. When players for months have been saying Survivors are too strong, and Killer's need a buff - hell they are currently working on reworking EVERY SINGLE MAP in the game, to make them more Killer sided. To be more fair. You started this whole thread off on the "Us VS Them" mentality, and still have yet to make an argument that isn't just a strawman argument.
For you killer mains that say survivor is op go plag solo survivor at rank 1 and ask yourself do you want to play swf or that. For you survivor mains that think killer is op go play wraith on ormond and ask yourself is this even fair.
Oh hey the pharagraph I responded to. Yeah I do play survivor at rank one, and run circles around Killer's like no tomorrow. Like most maps have over 10+ pallets, and a gen usually only costs 2 if I don't get the killer stuck in the Killer Shack or TL loop.
You guys know moris and keys right? Yeah they are both broken they both need reworks. The point I'm trying to make is that we need to get together and combine the community rather than divide and only then will dbd improve its health.
Yeah Mori's and Key's. Mori's can only be used if the Killer completes part of their objective. They were added to the game because the Dev's wanted Killer's to have a cool way to kill survivors that was unique to them, that didn't involve just hooking them and sacrificing them to the entity.
Key's can only be used to open a free win mechanic sooner. Do you know why the hatch exists in the first place? Because the last survivor was taking the game hostage by hiding and not completing Gen's. Getting a free win when the Killer finally gave up looking and DC. So they added the Hatch to give the survivor an incentive to go out of hiding. However that only added the problem of hatch stand offs, so they made it so that the Killer can close the hatch to start EGC. However then Survivors would just camp the door furthest the hatch, so even if the Killer does close the hatch they won't be able to walk to the door in time to stop the survivor from opening it. The hatch has been creating a lot of problems for the game since it was added. Simply all because BHVR decided to fix an issue of Survivors taking the game hostage, by literally giving them a free win mechanic. Key's doesn't help that issue even in the slightest.
So there you go boyo. You literally have 0 facts to back you up, you have only made strawman statements the whole time, and on top of all of that you're the one spreading the "us vs them" mentality. Either this can be chopped up as a bait thread, or you simply just need to get better at survivor, and learn the loops. Learn the tricks. Learn the maps. Learn the perks, and perk combinations. I suggest taking BT, DH, DS, and IW for solo playing. Yellow Med Kit w/ Gel Dressings, and Self Adherent Wrap - you get like 2-3 self heals out of it. Which is more than enough you need in any given game.
You ignored the whole point of the thread it isnt bait but I guess you just are ignorant I want this community to come together. You are the one starting us vs them now by saying do I think survivors are weak. That's the only bait, its hard to take you seriously.
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@alleycat012 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/174152/this-forum-is-very-killer-biased
Thats because the games massively imbalanced between SWF and non-swf matches right now. Has been since it came out.
They just need to bring non-swf teams up to SWF levl by adding comms and making games longer. I think its misconstrued that killers think all survs need nerfs, just this one aspect of the game kinda does.
Yeah I think the number 1 thing right now is the early game gen block that's what really ######### me as killer, like a built in corrupt.
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@TheButcher said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/174152/this-forum-is-very-killer-biased
... Lol I find it funny that you think in the slightest that survivor is weaker than killers right now. I'll do laps around killer's at rank one all day every day, and then when the boys get on - bruh. EZ BP all night long.
I dont remember mentioning whether which side was weak or not but nice strawman argument. Everything you just typed was irrelevant to my actual post so I'm gonna leave it here.
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@RizeAki said:
I’m guessing you don’t see the hundreds of posts each day about noed? Or weak killers like clown needing nerfs cuz yeah it’s killers that think dumb things are too strong 😂
I've seen noed nerf posts, I haven't see blown nerf posts show proof. But come you know why noed nerf posts exist killer loses gets rewarded speed boost, and one shot down.
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@Frareid88 said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/LEN94GV04OWK/screenshot-20200723-185017-com-android-chrome.jpg
Even the mods here don't like anyone saying things about killers
That's a mod? Yes this forum is killer biased but that needs to stop we need to come together. I seen your post you could have worded things better are you frustrated? If so I understand why it feels like this community does not care for survivors opinions.
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@SloppyKnockout said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1468196#Comment_1468196
KiLlErS nEvEr GeT NeRfEd ThOuGh
sUrViVoRs ShOuLd GeT tHe SaMe AmOuNt oF bLoOdPoInTs FoR lEsS wOrK
You can tell these kids haven't made it past rank 15 killer. Typical.
I can show you r1 screenshots of killer as of now I play alot of killer.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/174152/this-forum-is-very-killer-biased
I can’t disagree.
Sadly there’s still a little killer PTSD floating around these forums (not to make light of genuine PTSD. I’m just emphasising a point).
The problem in this forum is too much bias from either side. It seems suggesting balance ideas that are fair for both sides sits in the minority.
Suggest a buff to survivors, you’re a killer main.
Suggest a killer buff, you’re a killer main.
Happens to me all the time.
Typo in the buff to survivor part.
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@Komodo16 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/174152/this-forum-is-very-killer-biased
Wraith on Ormond are you taking mt story
Nah man XD
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@Pepsidot said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1468437#Comment_1468437
I'm not talking about cases where the killer has a ridiculously high ping or when the killer is using a VPN. Window vaults in general have been massively buffed in the survivors favour. You don't get hits you WOULD have gotten before the buff (when both the survivor and killer have good ping).
You mean you wont get hit where you shouldn't have gotten hit after the fix. It was never a buff and the hits u were getting were never supposed to hit in the first place.
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@Hello2121221 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1467826#Comment_1467826
Really? You have to "learn" how to counter blatant cheating, bad game design and intentional exploit. I am pretty sure they have left this massive game breaking issue in the game to make people pay to unlock new killers out of pure frustration. Who makes a game where players can literally cheat all of the time? People keep coming out with the sort of nonsense you are spouting. If your such a pro tell me exactly how to counter act survivors who run around in front of you tea bagging and then literally disappear into thin air. Better still point me towards some youtube tutorials that cover this topic. I can't find any, probably because their aren't any.
Back up be patient swing that's the counter.
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@Dwinchester said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1468406#Comment_1468406
7 out of 10 matches I get super strong survivors. People are under the misconception that your don't get them very often, I do.
That's not true but alright grossly exaggerated tho.
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@SloppyKnockout said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1468464#Comment_1468464
I hate to be that guy, but I'm about as "killer biased" as you can get and even I have to say, if you're getting "super strong" survivors that often, there's an element of "you need to get good" to this.
You are reasonable a smart killer main I see. Atleast you can understand they arent common.
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@Pepsidot said:
Window hit boxes have been greatly buffed in the survivors favour. Window vaults you wouldn't have gotten away with... you can now get away with.
As killer, it can be very frustrating trying to hit survivors, especially at common and strong windows such as the one in the shack. It is much, much harder to mind game the shack window if a survivor plays the shack well.
So I love the window hit boxes as survivor (most of the time!), but really dislike playing around windows as killer. It's just another thing that's put me off playing killer tbh.
You are joking right hits are in the killers favor verse a high ping killer or vpn and enjoy hits through every window and pallet.
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@Dwinchester said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/174152/this-forum-is-very-killer-biased
Here's a fact that just about everyone can agree on. The best survivors in the game will win against the best killer in the game. Meaning the game is survivor sided.
That means as killer, your only chance of winning comes from a survivor making a mistake. I don't like going into a game knowing that I can play perfect and still lose. That's the definition of bad game balance.
Then you have survivors that are just bad at the game screaming for nerfs when they already have the ability to git gud and win every time.
How often do you see the best survivors? That's true but not common. Another thing is you can say the same.thing for survivors you can only win if the killer makes mistakes like chasing a good survivor too long. Thats hoe any game works your opponent madonna mistake you capitalize on it and win.
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@LuffyBlack said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1468364#Comment_1468364
Understandable, I took the time to fix my post. If you understand killer's frustrations then what are you doing? I'm pretty sure antagonizing people isn't a way to gain agreement. I'm not saying survivors don't have valid frustrations, but again I will refer you to my previous post before this one as of why that is. You also lack perspective. You play the game and deal with all of that crap then yes, you're going to be annoyed when other players try to dictate which killer you play, which perks you use, and which add ons you use. To me that's the main problem.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1468354#Comment_1468354
No you're being antagonistic and factually incorrect. You're going to see disagreements and I guess bias, that term has been thrown around so many times, anytime someone makes a post.
I dont let people dictate which killer I play I just play killer. I agree it's annoying when survivors try to tell you how to play I get that but the point of the post is about how both sides struggle, have problems, but this forum seems to ignore the survivor side. Also I dont see disagreements and call them bias I call bias when you hardly play survivor then have the nerve to talk about how to they are.
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@LuffyBlack said:
I will add that I play both sides and has exclusively started off as survivor because originally, I only had an interested in playing survivor since I wanted a horror experience((That's not what I got but that's a story for another day)). I had the same mindset you did, but worse until I started playing killer. For me, it isn't the nerfs or the changes the developers put into the game but it is the complete disregard and perspective by the community so this bares repeating: Killers are forced to obey a set of rules set upon them by the competition. Otherwise you will be punished at the end of the match by shame or harassment at the end of the match. I won't even get started on the fact that there are players that know this and are aware of it then they weaponize it against the killer. You have four other players doing this and there's one you. There's also the fact that there are valid criticisms regarding the game from killers only to be dismissed by not only other players but sometimes the Trusted members and the Mods themselves, I have lurked this website for about a year or so before joining and that's what I witnessed. Hell there's literally nothing a killer could do or any character they can play that isn't considered "cheap" or "brain dead" and that's exhausting. Wanting to enjoy a game while others dictate how you do it is a turn off. Granted I feel some killers could want some pretty ridiculous things too like removing the hatch. But the amount of care you have to take to ensure others have fun at your own detriment seems to be a sacrifice only killers have to make. The developers should be responsible for that by giving us a rather tight and fluid experience.
If you want to know why there seems to be an irrational mistrust towards survivors, I'd start looking there. I did. I call out other survivors when they are harassing a player, I do it when I am killer towards other survivors that single out one of their own unfairly.
Please use paragraphs it's very hard to focus on the block of text but I will comment on 1 thing. I play killer quite alot actually. I understand killer frustrations but survivors have the too, yet they are ignored and disguised as just wanting to ruin the killers game.
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@LuffyBlack said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1468297#Comment_1468297
Then do that by following your own advice. Maybe even make that the title of your post next time instead of going after a single demographic.
I am taking my own advice also the titlemis because this really is very killer biased and i needed to get the attention of people so it is staying.
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@LuffyBlack said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/174152/this-forum-is-very-killer-biased
I mean you have taken part of the Us Vs Them in many of your posts and with this thread. I mean you're straight up doing it now. lol
I'll admit maybe two of my past discussions have been "us vs them" but that is out of frustration and I've been thinking about this alot this isnt even about us vs them if I didnt make that clear now in my initial post I'll make it clear now I want the community to come together.
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@NightmareReborn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1468222#Comment_1468222
Exactly. Unfortunately, a lot of the people on the forums are fairly close-minded, and will live and die by their perspective of the game, and that's just something that will have to be accepted, since there's really no guaranteed way to change it. That's why I mentioned that the devs shouldn't strictly listen to the forums.
I remember a forum posted not to long ago that said "Spirit using Stridor has no counterplay, change my mind", and plenty of people just went on the post just to say "SWF has no counterplay either", and it was incredibly infuriating to see this "Us vs Them" mentality ravage the community and make people blind to other perspectives.
This place could definitely benefit from a little more open-mindedness, and only then will you see both killers and survivors actually start to agree on some things.
My point exactly it's just whataboutism at its finest why not say "yeah she has no counter play but a good swf doesnt too. Atleast something like that.
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@Todgeweiht said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1468217#Comment_1468217
Not quite. I am not that sure about steam forums, since I stopped visiting them about 6 months ago, but reddit is a mixed bag. Sure, when there is a killer nerf the typical reddit hivemind comes into play and the killer mains starts making their posts about how much survivors are catered by the devs etc etc, but outside of that time frame it becomes the exact opposite, I have seen some posts with a blatant survivor bias receive a considerable amount of support.
Can you link me those posts haven't seen one of those in a while.
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@NightmareReborn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/174152/this-forum-is-very-killer-biased
Here's the thing.
First of all, I should mention, that I mainly play survivor (just so you can see where I'm coming from).
I think a fair chunk of the complaints about killer are valid, such as certain low-tier killers needing a buff, the bad billy changes, keys, or full red rank SWFs sweating and destroying games. However, there's a lot of stuff that killers have that make the game no fun for survivors, such as Spirit with Stridor, Tombstone pieces, Pink Moris, etc.
There's BS on both sides, any way you slice it. That's why I encourage the devs to not listen strictly to the forums. We're just a vocal minority in the grand scheme of things. That being said, don't disregard our opinions entirely either, just make sure that you have a larger perspective than just the forums.
I agree with you the problems you listed for killers are definitely valid its not whether or not.the complaints are valid its more of the fact that killers dont take anything survivors say into consideration and will gang up on one survivor in the forums over something they disagree with.