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@RamblinRango said:
Can we all just take a second to laugh at Azame calling himself a killer main? And calling PC killers lag switchers when he plays on a first gen toaster oven? Lol
I do main killer tho lol just because I defend survivors doesn't make me a survivor main. I guess @GoodBoyKaru mains survivor. I never said they lag switch but the clip suggests he had high ping. I also am switching to pc my 1650 gpu has to arrive at my house. By the way you talk you seem to be an elitist of some sort. I still think I can do better at killer than you despite being limited by bad console preformance.
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@Negi said:
I want to say that hit was bullshit but then I see Sprint Burst DS UB Soul Guard and I can only smile.
Do you want me to use bad perks? My heather is level 42 I had nothing else.
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@JimbusCrimbus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1837266#Comment_1837266
- Coincidence.
- Killer FTW. Big brain.
- Factually untrue. They favor whoever is closer to the server that's being used to host the match. That's how dedicated servers work.
- Yay.
- Yeah it is technically coincidence, but coincidently most freddies I verse tend to have weaker than average connection.
- Killer main gang lol
- The devs came out and said the hits are handled on the killers screen meaning no matter where you are if the killer hits you it connects. Hit validation was supposed to correct this and cancel bad hits but we see how that happened.
- I'm just waiting for my 1650 to arrive at my house and I am golden.
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@MythMage said:
Reasons this happened:
- Freddy's lunge animation is not accurate to his actual hitbox, so his lunge is extended farther than it looks, but it's still a normal 115% lunge
- Latency. You two are 100% in completely different parts of the world, so latency is gonna be a massive issue
- Dedicated Servers just ######### suck
- You're on console, and from what I know about DBD on console, framerate and latency are MASSIVE issues compared to PC
- All I know is that most freddy's have the worst ping.
- Well yeah thats why I play killer more.
- They favor killer hard
- Im building my pc extremely soon.
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@SentinelCaptain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1837143#Comment_1837143
I'll have to take you word on it. I didn't jump into DbD until fall of '19, though I did jump in headlong. So personally, I can't attest to how things were before, but I can emphasize having been on both sides of this or similar scenarios. It does indeed suck.
Things before were p2p so killer had constant 0 ping. This was because they hosted the lobby. You cod see if they had terrible ping and could see theirs. However they changed that and havent fixed vaults kr any types of hits since then.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1837138#Comment_1837138
i'm not trying to make you sympathize with me. also i don't understand what you're getting at by saying "bot ps4 player". is something wrong with ps4?
I mean console players in general arent very good so I guess thats what I mean. Dont get me wrong pc players are bad too but console players astound me.
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@Reinami said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/215531/just-remember-dbd-is-survivor-sided
You waited way too long, if you the killer gets into the doorway, and you aren't already vaulting over, you are gonna get hit.
You clearly do not know how to run shack. Its called shift tech. If you are patient and the killer has good ping you dont get hit. I was through the window as well so dont justify this bs.
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@SentinelCaptain said:
Can we not chalk this up to "######### happens"? I'm an entry level, and I mean very basic entry level coding/IT student and even machines make mistakes. Not to say that things like this aren't frustrating, I can certainly empathize there. Sometimes your perception and the server's don't sync up, and yeah that sucks.
Yeah no ######### doesnt just happen. This ######### never happened in 2017 he devs just do not care about fixing it. @MandyTalk more proof of hit validation come look.
Also watch this the game right after :)
azame san playing Dead by Daylight: Special Edition at XboxClips.coTell me this hits, its comical at this point. But uhh survivor sided game, just vpn lol.
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@Speshul_Kitten said:
Most generic small pp meta build and you’re still crying. I swear survivor mains need to play killer for a week to learn.
Ok so number 1. I dont play heather shown by my level 1 and 2 perks so that build is all I had. Number 2 you're so bias that you can't even objectively watch the clip and say "yeah that didn't hit". Finally I main killer the consistency of hits like these is what encouraged my switch.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1837064#Comment_1837064
don't invalidate my example. it seems to be what happened to you. in that example on my end i had clear line of sight to the survivor and the hatchet hit them while they were vaulting, which is legitimate. but for the survivor's end, apparently it was one of those air shots that downed. both of us had good pings. just like in this clip, on freddy's end he probably still saw you vaulting but on your end you finished the vault.
Im not invalidating your example. Don't get me wrong your hit shouldnt be taken away. I've even seen hits exactly hoe you described. Thst being said 2-3 missed hits isnt stopping huntress hitboxes you're gonna get 8 more bs hits I can't really sympathize with you.
The freddy was most likely a bot ps4 player so I can understand why he was so behind the server his bad internet. It's kind funny to ngl.
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@Leachy_Jr said:
Getting better mainly in the "doing gens" department, I notice my games are going faster now. Hell even my soloQ teammates seem a bit better, and while they still can't hold a chase for long they do know when to get on gens.
Not really an issue, it's just that I'm having to play a lot sweatier recently on killer, I'm tunneling more and camping more to win. It's working and that's pretty cool, but ya know it's not that fun for me unless I hit some fancy shots which are all being patched on the map reworks and not that fun for the survivors.
So yea, title. I have been getting horrible map RNG so it could be that but even games on balanced maps feel faster and more intense.
That's cool but you are deathslinger so what are they gonna do? They cant delay the game because he cancels out chases.
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@[Deleted User] said:
this has nothing to do with which side is more powerful. also it might have looked normal on the killer's end, in which case this is probably desync. i was playing huntress and a legit hatchet hit a survivor vaulting a window, but end-game chat that survivor said it didn't hit me. i had fine connection (less than 70 ms), so don't always assume that killer had a bad connection and should be punished when in fact it could be just a fault of dedicated servers and/or hit validation.
No I will definetly assume the killer had had connection especially when hes swinging and hitting air at the start. Pub games are more killer favored. Only comp is survivor sided. Also huntress gets bad hits anyways one uhit taken away isnt gonna stop the million undeserving ones shes given lol.
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@OniWantsYourMacaroni said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/215531/just-remember-dbd-is-survivor-sided
Yeah,hit validation just doesn't seem to work at all.
It still favours the killer no matter what your ping is
I know I just think it's funny tho people think pub games are survivor sided.
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It's a feature not a bug lol.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1836640#Comment_1836640
If survivors are grouped up then Victor is very weak. The moment he pounces on someone another survivor could just kick him, doesn't matter if he gets the hit or not. Getting kicked is actually a very huge punishment. So he has to go for the healthy one which means that they can deny the power for 30 seconds. There are many ways to counter them especially in a SWF.
How is he weak if groups up lol. You hit the survivor with victor then you go over there and you can pressure multiple at once. If hes kicked hes back within 5 seconds. If they choose to not get rid of the power it's a 1v3 something entirely in the killers favor.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1836632#Comment_1836632
You also have to consider Twins are new. It's likely he could have won those games just because the other team wasn't sure how to play against Twins yet.
Honestly I probably shouldn't even have put them on the list. We will need a good 4-5 months to really gauge how good they are compared to the others.
The twins are new but the only counter play is to hop into a locker and hope they arent near by. Victor is hard to miss with as killer and is a guarenteed hit away from lockers.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1835794#Comment_1835794
Twins I'm not entirely sure yet. I put them there because it seems like they are dependent on camping and/or slugging to be truly effective. Hard to gauge I suck with them (though they are fun AF) and I rarely play against them. I just have like YT/Twitch to go by mostly.
Raging ryuga beat team odyssey in a comp scrim as twins and blight, he tied asnspirit which is weird because shes typically seen as good.
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@thesuicidefox said:
Because you asked
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/NI8A32V19TL5/dbd-killertierlist-442.png
EDIT: Keep in mind that a true tier list is a ranking of characters RELATIVE to each other. In other words just because I put Clown as the worst killer does not mean he cannot win or be effective. More that, every killer above him can get results equal to or greater with less effort/skill/add-on cost/whatever else. Also know that there is a clear distinction between each tier. For example, what separates B and C tiers (for my list) is the necessity of certain add-ons/tactics. Oni will more likely win games without add-ons that Bubba could not. That sort of thing. If ya'll want a breakdown I will write one. I just did this because I was bored LOL.
Move blight up to number 2, move freddy way down. Move hag and twins up. Other than that I guess you can keep it subjective.
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@OniWantsYourMacaroni said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1835646#Comment_1835646
Why is it called "japanese flick"?
I'm pretty sure the guy that was doing flicks was japanese and ascension started calling it the japanese flick.
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@skylerbound said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1835624#Comment_1835624
Is there a video tutorial on how to do this?
No there isnt because most youtubers dont even know about Japanese flick. AlI can tell you is watch ascensionwho on twitch, join the discord and ask around even the guy himself because hes friendly.
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@6yXJI0 said:
You can do 180 ability lunge flicks with Blight. Its a kinda advanced trick that most Blight mains can do, but it looks like its just a bug, not intended. And you can't do it with low mouse sens. Impossible.
Do you think this Flick should stay or must be patched as a bug?
Yes they should. It is a skill cap and it separates good blights from great blight.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1835467#Comment_1835467
It doesn't matter my reasons though. Being on Series X I am forced into crossplay if I want to play the game. I could have the most subjective reasons in the world, if I want to turn it off I should be able to but I'm not. And that's great you have this experience, I literally get nothing but idiots with crossplay on. I rarely get decent survivors or SWF that can actually challenge me (note I've been mostly playing Freddy and Pig since I got my Series X).
FUNNY THING THO the mods here have said it's because Xbox One and Xbox Series X are different platforms. WRONG, and I have the proof.
- First, there is the fact that LITERALLY NO OTHER GAME requires crossplay. Some it's not even an option. Yet I can still play with all other Xbox players just fine. In some games crossplay exists, but I have it off and still get matched with Xbox One players. Gears 4/5 are like this. If I was actually on a different platform I would need to use crossplay in these games too.
- Second, new generation =/= new platform. This isn't 1996 anymore, a new console does not completely split the playerbase. The fact all these other games work and that I can be in a party with other Xbox players on Series X suggests it is in fact the SAME platform, just a new console. MS said with the Xbox One they are moving away from the old model (new console = new platform) and keeping everything on one platform (Xbox), just on different hardware. Like I can literally go play some Xbox games on my PC and it still considers me on Xbox. I'm not crossplaying, I'm playing on the Xbox app on PC and therefore it is Xbox.
- Third AND THIS IS THE BIGGIE, since the last update I can actually play with crossplay off. However it is janky. I can't do it by myself. But I can turn off my crossplay, join an Xbox friend's lobby and we can search with crossplay off on Xbox only and get matched with Xbox players (One or Series X). However if I try to do this myself I just sit in a lobby forever. So I can only play without crossplay in a group. But just the mere fact this is a thing that happens means that I don't need crossplay to play with Xbox One players, and thus we are on the same platform. It is BHVR that ######### up the crossplay, because they want to eventually FORCE everyone into it. The fact that this is how Series X is treated and the fact that crossplay is on by default, AND by the fact that the system actually puts you in a separate pool and doesn't simply prioritize your platform and use crossplay to fill in the games is the evidence they are doing this.
Sorry I know you didn't ask but I needed to rant. Points being I'm forced into crossplay when I don't want, and my experience is no where near what yours is and I hate it. If I got good survivors (both as killer and as survivor) then I wouldn't have a problem with it. But since I don't, it's insanely frustrating to deal with.
I cant comment on everything you say and the rant is fine but the theory is highly plausible. I could even continue on to say they want to force crossplay because they foresee the inevitable future of this game dying and wanting to mix the playerbase. that's a huge stretch but I'm just throwing ideas out there.
But once again I think what you said does hold merit and I kinda want to look into it so thanks for telling me fox.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1835419#Comment_1835419
It is when my frames drop to 10 when I touch LT
Thats weird on the one x make sure you constantly restart because of the memory leaks.
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@thesuicidefox said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1835194#Comment_1835194
Really? Because ever since I was forced into crossplay with Xbox Series X I've come to find that a vast majority of the players in the crossplay pool are straight potatoes. As survivor or killer it's nothing but idiots all day. It doesn't matter the platform, it's the crossplay pool. I have had WAY more challenging games when I was able to turn of crossplay on Xbox. The survivors at red ranks actually deserve to be there, and red ranks are full of SWF on Xbox. Game is not even a challenge as killer in the crossplay pool. I had to try like 2 games ever, one was a Twins game on Ormond (and I was level 40 with ######### perks and this was like my 4th game ever as Twins), and then one game as Billy where despite getting a chainsaw in the first 15 seconds I was still struggling to keep up with the pace of the gens (Temple also so there's that).
I despise playing killer now more because I get matched against total morons and it's not even fun half the time. I just run them over. Sometimes as ######### Clown.
Sorry I just don't buy this BS. I think the "bad" players all go for crossplay while the "good" players turn it off for maximum sweat.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1835314#Comment_1835314
Buy a Series X. Literally all the frame issues go away (except for Lerys and sometimes Midwich, they still suck frames).
My issues with PC are:
1) IDK who the ######### I'm playing. Okay cool, your name is "John" there are like a million Johns on Steam. Can't even report the guy if the do something. Also I don't want to see offensive names like "Cock Mongler" and #########.
2) Cheaters. I've already seen some people cheating on crossplay. Had EXACTLY 3 instances ever in Xbox only, all were lag switching (pre-dedi's) and twice was the same guy on the same day.
3) PC killers still have a mouse which is a HUGE advantage, and apparently they have 0 ping because I always seem to get hit through walls or around corners, or some kind of BS where I'm like there is just no way that connected. IDK if it's connection or frame rates but it's mad shadey to get hit by a PC player a lot of the time.
4) No way to communicate. Believe or not I do like to send out GG after a game. Can't do that with crossplay on.
5) PC survivors are just THE WORST. And I don't mean skillwise, I mean attitude-wise. They are so ######### selfish and entitled. I could count on 1 hand the number of times I was just left to die because no one gave a ######### to save me with Xbox. On crossplay it's literally ever game, survivors will completely cuck you or not even stick their necks out a little to help you. Oh and I've stopped playing Spirit as much because any time I play a game people either DC, suicide on hook, or just try to meme with me. I've had like 1 normal game as Spirit since Series X came out, the rest is complete dumpster fire. Yea, there are Xbox players that hate Spirit, and yea some DC, but dear God it's not even close to how it is in crossplay. Spirit is borderline unplayable for me unless I want to meme all the time. PC players are so entitled it's disgusting.
Dude no matter what I definitely think console survivors extremely trash. In my own experience they just don't know how to loop or be optimal. If I turn off cross play it's easy stomps 1 game after another. With cross play on I face way more sweats. If you aren't joking about sweats at red ranks I am gonna grind rank 1 blight tonight to see if I can find xbox sweats. Only good PC players turn off crossplay for the sweats. Console players do it for easy game.
Also your pc issues except for 2 and 3 are subjective.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1835299#Comment_1835299
Hence limiting his ability. Why do you think you never see Nurse's or Oni's on Console? They are limited by the inability to see and flick.
Victor feels terrible to play as against decent Survivors.
If the Devs want me to play crossplay, they are going to have to deliver on that "60 FPS on Console by the end of 2019" thing.
I meant to refer to blight flicks. Oni flicks are limited to 90s which I can do on console. So oni is the same on console and pc. The problem is that people refuse to get good with oni despite his strength and being a good killer in general. Nurse on the other hand is only limited by console performance watch supa alf he did fine on controller with pc. It's the frames.
Victor is easy just be patient. That is a you problem it is very hard to miss.
I do agree with you here though the devs were supposed to reach 60 by the end of 2018 though which is even earlier.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1835227#Comment_1835227
I play on the One X and my sens is at 100. You cannot flick with the controller. Its why Oni, Blight and Twins aren't super popular on Console.
It's screwed up my 4K plenty of times. I read DH, I wait, game freezes, he makes it to the pallet because I was frozen.
You cant do insane flicks like on pc but you can still flick with oni. Twins is a whole different story if you are just patient shes good on any platform. I used to main oni so I could hop into a custom and show you some tricks. Blight I do agree with that's why I'm switching to pc.
Kinda weird hoe you are having so many problems on the one x but I believe you console optimization sucks. Dh freezes usually happens maybe once or twice a game.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1835220#Comment_1835220
I play Legion and if I dare to use my power my FPS drops to 15.
Sens is different, you can't flick and render distance is way shorter. Game freezes whenever someone uses DH, autoaim shenanigans ect ect
I play on one s and I get alot of freezes and stuff but not that legion thing.
Play 100 sense you can flick just fine. I never considered the render distance as it was a non issue for me. Dh freezes and autoaim suck but it's never cucked my 4k.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1835215#Comment_1835215
I play on Xbox and I have it off because until Consoles are fixed, I'm literally playing handicapped.
The only handicap is frames. When the frames are decent it's easy claps for me. I wont worry about that in a day tho so I mean lol.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1835194#Comment_1835194
I disabled crossplay. Does that make me bad?
Not inherently but you definetly might not be that good. I'm sorry but most players who do just arent good. I play xbox and as a killer main I keep it on in Hope's I get sweats not bot survivors. Console survivors who have it off are usually the worst.
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Yeah I agree console survivors are extremely bad. I'm very serious about this. Cant rely on them. That's why any console player that disabled crossplay is really bottom of the barrel. Dont get me wrong pc survivors are bad but console is just sheesh.
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@NomiNomad said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1835108#Comment_1835108
First of all, don't try to say you know me. I don't got a damn thing to prove to you. Get off your high horse. At topic, no - I play both equally. I do find survivor easier to play as, but I don't think the role is braindead easy. I'm still learning how to combine loops together, but I'm certainly not a "Pre Throw, Hold W cheese gamer". I literally said I get the OP's gripes with Slinger, playing against a good one can be very unfun, but my point stands.
Not every single killer in this game should be a killer that can be looped, that would inevitably make them all the same damn thing, just with slightly different ways of getting around and damaging people. I would 100% rather go against a Slinger than a Spirit or a Freddy. The only irritating thing I dislike about Slinger is the people that play him tend to spam zone, but he's not the only killer that can zone. He just does it the best.
My apologies for assuming I'm sorry. I do know that most players who think deathslinger is fine are flat out bad at survivor. I jumped the gun. That being said you are still learning to chain tiles which is more of an iq thing than a skill. Chaining multiple tiles takes skill but chaining a filler to a jungle gym or an LT wall is being smart.
No killer is looped the same way. Sure the foundation is the same running around a tile, vaulting etc, but that's every killer even nurse. What's different is how their power effects your pathing and what you do differently.
A good flick Billy makes you question whether you should flare out to avoid a flick, or a bubba makes you question are you gonna throw a pallet early to find windows to loop.
You are not looping a deathslinger is that the difference you want? A killer when played correctly effectively canceling chases? People have his unreactable insta shot, not just his zoning he can do that by existing because of his constant threat and no telegraph.
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@Komodo16 said:
I can't believe I'm saying this but I prefer him over spirit. I cant stand slingers and their cheap ass ability. I had panic player miss a hit with the easiest shot but as soon as I'm like 6 meters away vaulting a window on grim pantry as he just turns the corner and quick scopes me. I run the tile right, he misses a shot but still gets a free down because of his ######### design. And no walking behind walls doesnt count as counter play because then you get m1 if you are in a loop you have nothing to hide behind. That's my problem with him his ability works too fast and it is just cheap. At least spirit can be looped conventionally and there is some semblance of 1v1 her only issue is lack of info but the lack of action is just so boring and cancerous to this game. And I'm officially killing myself on hook against any deathslinger that knows what they are doing because then I cant have a fun match. This may be entitled but I dont care this is the only entitlement im going to have and plus I'm entitled to fun so screw deathslinger
Komodo there is no point in making this, I've made hella posts about slinger in the past. You are beating a dead horse at this point. Just suicide on hook when you get him.
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@NomiNomad said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/DRGLH6USM3KQ/daring-today-aren-27t-we-banner.jpg
Gotta love these "I can't loop this killer so they = unfun >:(" posts.
I get your gripes with Slinger, (Spirit and Freddy are 10000% worse) but you really shouldn't be able to "conventionally loop" every killer.
Also you can't loop a Spirit, what're you talking about?
I mean yes that's the point at hand. If you cant loop a killer because of something outside of your control why play survivor all you have is chase interaction outside of gens. I'm willing to guess you're the pre throw, w key killer main. You aren't very good at survivor so you do the cheese strategy and call survivor easy right?
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@Komodo16 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1835094#Comment_1835094
Bruh look at my deathslinger post tell me of you agree
No
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@Cable2486 said:
Survivors have held this change to the Mori's as a victory over quote " toxic or unfair gameplay mechanics ". A lot of killer mains (myself included) we're understandably not happy about them changing this, especially since they didn't change the keys.
Then I realized what they actually did. To preface, I'm one of those killers that actually finds use for Insidious without camping hooks. In the upper purple and red ranks I prefer to camp generators that are 50% or higher with Insidious and Dragons Grip, which I pair with Tinkerer/Overcharge or Pop/Overcharge, especially on Wraith, Doc, or Hag.
But with this new change to Mori's, Insidious hook camping, especially when using Make You Choice, is now essentially a death sentence for any of those teams that have the annoying savior habit. If anything, this change confirms that the devs support camping as a viable play strategy and just made it stronger and more obnoxious.
Thoughts?
I'm waiting foe the 4 man legacy Ds/ub squad to give you the work.
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@Komodo16 said:
So I have corrupt, nurses, bbq and bitter murmur for an aura build huntress. I'm playing with some friends and one called me a tryhard for that build. Then I even let them heal fully for not being very good with gens at 5 gens left. And soon after 1 gen left as I'm just playing around and so they all said how its whatever and ######### so I got this one annoying guy in basement and my friend ran away so I got her like 32 meters away from basement and downed the guy going for the save and basically got 3 kills and was called garbage and a tryhard and mad because I secured 3 kills after a game where I said I didn't want. To get gen rushed so we could just play around. And in retrospect I probably should act like its a real match since every time I play this ######### happens and ita not even fun. What do you guys think was I rightfully upset? Was I a tryhard?
Komodo you do not need to make these long posts about kyf. Just play how you want ignore others. Just dont be a dick.
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Terrible still favoring high ping killers, but what did I expect. With no offense give up on hit validation you guys are never gonna fix window hits.
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@EvilJoshy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1833253#Comment_1833253
Anymore?
Meaning he was toxic before? That isn't very convincing lol
As for the unjustly bans I can sympathize with that, provided they were really unjustly. I have a few friends who got banned for simply pointing out the games bull#@$%.
I said it in quotations because it wasnt even really toxic. People still say toxic all the time for no reason.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
I mean, since Killers always recommend some Perks to Survivors, what about running STBFL? :>
It would even be better than the mediocre Perks which get suggested when Survivors complain.
I really appreciate your input. Make sure you throw on small game for ruin undying :)
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@bjorksnas said:
Minimum spawn back time is 6 seconds, and time to send victor again is 1.5 seconds
so you are complaining that the killer can use their power once every 7.5 seconds when they can't down healthy survivors with it and usually have to play an m1 killer for injure unless they want to risk not having any power for 37.5 seconds
but nah they need to be nerfed you lost to it once too op
Go against a good twins. Victor is impossible to dodge because of his huntress hitboxes. Charlotte moves at mach 452 for some reason, and you say that number as if it's long. You kick him and hes back instantly so what's the point?
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@EvilJoshy said:
Hasn't noob been banned multiple times for hacking?
I don't watch him so I don't know much about him. What I do know is there is a section of the player basis that doesn't like him.
Dont disrespect noob. He was banned the first time for hacking his legacy after losing it unjustly. The times after that were not even fair bans. He was just banned. Noob is a good guy and he doesnt even play toxic" anymore. Dont get me wrong the breaksare annoying but hes an og YouTuber for this game.
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@EvanSnowWolf said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1830108#Comment_1830108
This post is not about skill. He's not asking for a win of any kind. He's asking for the game to END, and as it stands his only option in his control is to take a DC penalty, which is hardly fair.
I mean he said he sucks so I gave him a tip to get better. If he wants better games where he is not wishing the game would end he should improve his killer. The best option is to not give up and throw himself into the fire.
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@pseudechis said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1830096#Comment_1830096
I'll dare...
Your initial reply adds nothing to the conversation other than to say that the OP was carried by their choice of killer and that they need to LTP by choosing a "weaker" killer to play so they can learn the game.
It also says its ok to harass and taunt someone if they give up because at that point they deserve it, which basically is bullshit.
Its not "whataboutism", but it is an arrogantly worthless set of statements
If the killer gives up then by all means power through the game and leave, you are in no way justified in, or gaining anything by, taunting them for it. Which is what the OP is complaining about.
Within that scenario its possible to offer advice on how to improve without belittling someone while you do it.
The post comes across as a slightly more wordy "GIT GUD" with a pro bully theme, which is about as helpful as a condom machine in the Vatican.
Also you can learn all of the things you are suggesting using Freddy as, when it boils down to it, he's an M1 killer.
I pointed that out because if he is giving up in game he clearly is not in a rank he is supposed to be in. Learning the weaker killers helps your basic killer skills which is needed for all killers.
I never said its ok to taunt someone or harass them so don't put words in my mouth lol.
I'd say that's an opinion but alright.
If a survivor gave up against a slinger guaranteed they would get crucified and called toxic for not wanting to face a killer "they can't bully". Also despite the fact op gave up in the end which I will say is not that bad, I still think giving up mid game won't help them improve, survivor is also already boring enough with the fact the devs keep designing these new killers horribly, so we have to do gen simulator enough. A killer giving up mid game just discourages playing survivor.
I was not trying to belittle him, I was being blunt.
Yes he does need to "git gud" he's struggling with Freddy against pub teams.
Freddy has an overtuned basekit, only good teams will make him m1. Which btw aren't common in pubs. He has so much going on for him, free map teleport, anti loop, passive slowdown in addons. He is the perfect killer for new players to cheese off of. If that aint a bloated basekit tell me what is.
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@TransverseCaster said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1830110#Comment_1830110
"Most survivors get mindgamed by simple fakes at shacks"
Only if you're playing new people. I've been playing for years with a few breaks between. I've seen the skill generally rise on those. From anecdotal experience alone this week, you're wrong. Nothing else to say. Good survivors can maintain a shack chase past more than a few fakes and that's while they're blind due to being in the Dream World so I don't have a red stain.
"Yeah staying on gens wins but once again this is pubs not tournaments so you wont see actual optimal teams except for once in a blue moon."
This is also a blatant lie. A few days ago I was rank 6 and going up against two back to back SWFs with an OoO on each team and they were on comms(I asked after the chat to make sure). They were extremely difficult and decked out exactly as they needed to be. That was ranks ago and the skill level has only gotten more difficult to compete with. Like I said, playing past 10 at night it's a whole different game.
"I think you are overestimating how fast these pub survivors are doing gens"
I'm running Oppression and Pop for stall, that should be enough. I can teleport to gens and I run BBQ as well. This should be more than enough but it's not. I should have taken a video of the game I played against console gamers. I assume they were comm'ed up because they were trading off hits and baiting me to the opposite side of the field for a chase. I got down to the last gen and there was nothing I could do. It was over by then. In the first two minutes they had three generators worked on. By around the third minute one was completed, two more were over 90%, and another was beginning to be worked on. By minute five it was basically over and I knew it. I chased one guy for about half the time and hooked him twice. Each time he got unhooked he was healed nearly instantly (no medkits, I assume perks but didn't stay to check).
Are you going to pretend you've never faced a team like this?
From my own anecdotal experience I can say that yes its true. Good survivors can maintain shack a shack chase. Also you can still see Freddy's stain in dream world. The problem here is that there is not many good survivors. Pubs is bloated with fake red ranks and anybody can tell you that. I highly doubt you consistently go against some really good survivors on average.
OK you faced a minority. Tournament teams in pubs are extremely unlikely you just got lucky, should I rather say unlucky because I actually enjoy versing good teams I am guessing you don't. I play all the time late and morning don't seem to bring any sweatier survivors it just depends on whether I am lucky. The last coordinated team I beat was on blood lodge with oni and corrupt 1.
Run corrupt,pop, bbq. You acknowledged you were being taken away from gens and yet you still did?? You made mistakes in the game and it seems like you won't talk about that. Record your games and see what you are doing wrong. If you notice them on coms you adjust how you play, play more dirty, proxy camp and confirm second state. Freddy counters bt, so you don't have to worry about that. When you say there was nothing you could do, there definitely was. What map were you on?
I have faced teams like that, except I can put them out quickly because I am confident in my skills and minimize any mistakes I make.
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@TransverseCaster said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1830108#Comment_1830108
I don't believe that's true about getting better by being bullied. That has nothing to do with improvement. It just feels bad. I don't think you were insulting me for playing Freddy but I need a real solution. I can't leave or I take a penalty. I actually did leave earlier and I got a penalty so I can only do it once a day.
When I say getting better by getting bullied, I mean learning what better players do, adapting to have they play and learni ng to counter it. It feels bad but throwing yourself into the fire is good sometimes. The only real solution I can give you is run hella slowdown til you can win chases faster.
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@Warcrafter4 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1830096#Comment_1830096
You clearly have never seen me talk about the twins if you think that.
Also you literally went on about changing the subject to learning trapper(Aka whatabout learning trapper) then insulted him for playing freddy.
Also if you paid attention he said he was waiting for the exit gates to be finished aka he had already lost the generator and unless your advising him to down then face camp the last survivor so he can get a single down then him going afk or not doesn't matter.
Aka: He had already lost and without excessive camping/tunneling couldn't get any kills and needless to say face camping in end game won't help him improve.
I havent seen you talk about twins but from what I've seen you seem to love defending killers.
It was on subject he said he sucks so I gave him a tip on getting better but keep talking about whataboutism. Never insulted him for playing freddy. I just said freddy carried him. There is nothing wrong with that, but it is a reason for him not being able to handle these survivors he hasnt mastered the basics and a killer like freddy is bad for beginners trying to improve.
That's my fault. I see now but I'd still try and fight til the end. I've ended up with more 3ks from just continuing to play. He doesnt even have to face camp he could just work on winning chases and trading hooks.
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@TransverseCaster said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1830098#Comment_1830098
I really don't think there's any more technical expertise I can improve on. I've hit my cap. I rewatch and think through my games and it's basically the same problem: all of the survivors know how to run shacks and there are too many pallets on some of the older maps. If survivors are determined to stay on gens, then the game is sealed in the first two minutes while I'm fooling around with one. A two minute chase at the beginning is reasonable. The second option is to egress chase- but that comes with the fact that I just wasted my time, the survivor will now heal, I need to find a new survivor, and I'm still losing two gens even if I find another one right away. Three if I don't. The opening is hard.
Once again if you cant beat pub survivors as freddy you have not reached your cap. Most survivors get mindgamed by simple fakes at shacks big exaggeration on your part. Older maps are balanced most good killer and survivor mains think so.
Yeah staying on gens wins but once again this is pubs not tournaments so you wont see actual optimal teams except for once in a blue moon.
I think you are overestimating how fast these pub survivors are doing gens I'm sorry but that's not gonna happen if you are good and bring corrupt atleast if its that much of a problem.
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@EvanSnowWolf said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1830098#Comment_1830098
What if he doesn't WANT to? What if he just wants the god forsaken nightmare to end?
This is why I think games should have a hard time limit. 20 minutes, maybe 30 minutes.
He should have a better range of options than:
1.) Get bullied
2.) AFK them out till they get bored
or
3.) Leave match and take the DC penalties
Well if he doesnt want to improve at the game this post should not exist. He shouldn't complain about being bad. You see his dumb that sounds?
Pretty sure it already exists it's just absurdly long. I'd say 40 minutes to an hour.
Getting bullied makes you better, you should not be handed wins.
Afk does not make you better he should never do this.
Leave match fine I can accept this because if you arent having fun you should leave.
So either leave or get better is the only two he should have or any killer should have.
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@TransverseCaster said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1830087#Comment_1830087
I've played Trapper and Ghostie extensively to learn the mindgames. After playing those two, I don't think anything more I have to learn. I've already looked up videos and practiced running every tileset in the game, which is even better now that many of the god loops have been removed. However, playing normal games during the day is nothing like playing after 10.
Sorry but if you vant handle pub survivors with freddy I doubt you understand how to do mindgames that will work on survivors. Especially pub survivors. I think you should watch otz and see how he plays. You can watch the videos but you may not be applying it now. I still 4k my games at rank 1 as killer it's easy when you got the basics to fall back on.
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@EvanSnowWolf said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1830087#Comment_1830087
I see no reason why a Killer whipped as soundly as he was should continue except to stroke Survivor ego some more and pad game scores. He clearly can't get them, and they know it.
His options here are pretty limited.
I never said he has to stroke their egos, Versing better survivors makes you better. If eh gives up against any good player how I'd he gonna improve? You tell me.
His options aren't limited he has ######### he can do.