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@DeadByTunnelight said:
Killers dc also when they don't like map that they got or they can't caught someone...so
Only time I DC is when i get 3 gens pop at once and I get this massive wave of "Why bother?" Though lately I just open the gate for them and wave them out.
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@Boosted_Dwight said:
You're all getting nerfed to Legion level for being so OP! >:/
As a Legion main, this hurt me.
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And another topic lost to the "Killer Vs. Survivor" mindset here.
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Clown was mega nerfed when they changed Mid vault.
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@arslaN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733709#Comment_733709
Ebony mori already encourages tunneling in its current state.
Huntress can carry 3 hatchets max with Iridescent head.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733716#Comment_733716
I'm saying you can REDUCE the amount of people dcing. Salty survivors will always dc or kill themselves on hook.
Ebony mori is easily more broken than anything survivors have.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733718#Comment_733718
Never said they were, but they are a big part of why people dc. No one wants to play against broken addons or ebony mori. People play this game to have fun, and those addons make the game very unenjoyable.
Here's the other thing... what about those survivors that DC just to ######### up the Killer? The Killer Depips if everyone DC's, and SOME (not all) survivors will do that just to ######### up the Killer, call them trash and #########, and tell them to kill themselves for picking that Killer. (Guess How i know all this?)
No amount of game fixing will fix that. The only way THAT could be fixed is with punishments or making survivors Gods that can just stomp literally every Killer so they get there rocks off.
Oh also, Ebony will make Killers Depip as well. So serious Killers will not use them unless they have a daily. (Guess how I know that.) Guess what makes the game unenjoyable for me? Keys, Insta Heals, DS lasting 60 seconds, being t-bagged and BM'ed every pallet, people saved with BT body blocking me cause they know they are immune... I can keep going.
Just pulling "EBONY MORI IS OP SO I DON'T HAVE TO JUSTIFY WHAT I SAY!" doesn't work.
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Yes. I don't think that fixing "Broken" add-ons is a way to fix DCing. The people that rage quit will still do it. I will even admit to doing it as Killer when 3 gens pop at the same time and I get this sudden feeling of "Why even bother?" Killer add-ons are not the sole reason for DCs and never will be.
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@JustAFeeling said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733676#Comment_733676
If they rework the ebony mori into a 2 hook process this will only increase tunneling because killers will fill like they may not get those two hooks, Huntress can only get 2 Iridescent heads at best which don't see them ran very often maybe they can increase the rarity in the blood web if there's a Huntress out there with 99 Iri heads saved up but it just seems like it's another shift to give survivor's more power which you guy's are to OP on Comms, all these changes and yet the gen speeds and totem spawns stay the same don't get me started on BNP while three survivor's are even two on a generator, are two tackles one while the others work on separate gens if it's getting changed in this direction maybe they shouldn't make any change's at all
This is kinda what I was getting at with the "Oh so your solution is to nerf killers so survivors don't Dc?" thing but alot more aggressive.... and less punctuation.
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@arslaN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733683#Comment_733683
Yeah, legions addons are really really trash. Even the ultra rare ones are useless. Legion needs another rework tbh.
Rework? The first one was a neutering session lead by all the stupid fcks that did that damn exploit.
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@arslaN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733663#Comment_733663
Legion doesn't have any broken addons. I'm talking about the other killers addons. Devs can easily reduce the amount of dcs if they rework prayer beads, iridescent head(you shouldn't have additional hatchets), nurse's addons (they will be reworked in the next patch), and ebony moris. No survivor likes going against these. Someone almost always dc's when someone uses these.
You missed the joke. 90% of Legion's add-ons are worthless. Like there is a purple one that takes 0.6 seconds off the stun at the end of FF....
Also, you literally said the ones I did.
Also Also, doesn't change that people will still DC after they are changed.
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@arslaN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733550#Comment_733550
Some people are salty and will dc no matter what. Just saying devs can reduce the amount dcs by nerfing the broken addons. When they start punishing dcs, those people will kill themselves on hook instead of dcing.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733554#Comment_733554
BNP's aren't that strong anymore imo but if you really want to nerf it, maybe rework it so when you are using the addon, all skillchecks count as great skill checks.
Insta heals should heal you over time, like second wind.
Ebony mori and the other killer addons are way more broken than these imo.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733559#Comment_733559
Again, some people are just salty. They will kill themselves on hook instead when they start punishing dcs. Only killers will get more points with this change.
You say some add-ons are broken... but I play Legion. I don't know what add-ons you speak of. (No really, Legion add-ons are the worst) But as you said, some people are salty and will DC no matter what. So you fix the "broken" add-ons.... and guess what? They still DC. The only ones i think are broken are Omega Blink Nurse and maybe Prayer Beads on Spirit. Iri head shouldn't stack with things that give you more hatchets but a bad Huntress won't hit you anyway and a good Huntress doesn't feel the need to use Iri.
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@meatisadelicacy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733625#Comment_733625
Yeah I mean, like I said, there's no good solution. People will always be pissy and dc, both killers and survivors. People will always dodge lobbies.
Well dodging lobbies is not as bad as DCing, in my opinion.
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@MissGamer456 said:
Everyone complains about survivors and killers DCing I’m sorry, but it’s stupid to be upset when someone leaves a match. You can’t make survivors or killers stay in a match that they don’t wanna stay in.
Ex: If I’m getting tunneled you think I’m just supposed to just play it out? No I’ma Leave and move on to next match because I’m not having fun.
I’ve seen People with Deliverance found first and left match because they can’t use deliverance. WHO CARES! :/
Oh my teammates aren’t doing anything, because of Hex: Ruin they’re just urbaning around the map while I’m running the killer for 6 mins. Do you think I’m gonna stay? No I’ma move on to the next match. Getting FaceCamped? No bye
You wanna DeRank? (I personally don’t do this, but I know people who do) Who Seriously cares you can’t tell people what rank to be at.
People that think that you are entitled to stay is pretty freaking pathetic. News Flash you don’t have to stay. There’s a leave match button for a reason (TO LEAVE GAME) No dedicated server will fix that. That whole “leaving the match screws over your teammates” is a BS excuse to make people feel bad about leaving. I literally had 2 people DC at 3 gens left - me and my friend both made it out without a key completely all 3 gens. How? because we are decent survivors and we know how to loop and run a killer. It shouldn’t matter who or how many people DCs there will be thousands of more games after.
Shall I get you another soap box? I think you broke that one.
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@meatisadelicacy said:
I agree there should be something to deter the dc's, I don't think something that could make queues even slower is a good idea. Maybe a BP penalty? Maybe the same for when killers dodge lobbies? I dunno. There's probably no good solution.
I mean, if i see a 4 man Claud Squad with purple Toolboxes i'm dipping outta that Lobby. I don't care.
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@SleepyWillo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733606#Comment_733606
Not at all. Insta heals are a problem but nowhere near as bad as eboni mori. Once moris are adjusted then they need to tackle iri-hatchets, prayer beads and insta-heals
Well at least you are level headed. But I mean, look at my math up there. With no perks, or whatever, it takes 20 seconds off a Gen. In the current meta that is a big deal. Is it the most OP thing in the game? Hell no. But it's still a big factor.
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It hurts my soul when survivors bully me cause i like to play as Legion.
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@SleepyWillo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733587#Comment_733587
If you think BNP is still OP than it is you who has no idea of balance...
Mhm, sure. So next you will say Insta-heals and such are perfectly okay?
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@humanbeing1704 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733597#Comment_733597
25% is barely anything
It's 1/4th. Literally. That is 1/4th to your gen being done instantly. So in numbers, that is 1/4th of 80 seconds needed to fix a gen solo without great skill checks or toolboxes or perks.
Congratulations! You shaved 20 seconds off that gen! Being 100% naked other than a tool box and a BNP, you shaved 20 seconds off your repair.
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@humanbeing1704 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733587#Comment_733587
why do people complain about brand new parts they are garbage would you prefer they still instantly completed a gen?
..... Why in all that is unholy would I want that and why would you even think, in this realm or any of the realms including where ever the Hell Yoggy is from, would I ever refer to that abyssal time in this game?
Like really, I am drawing no logical leap between your statement and mine. NOT ONLY THAT, but they are not garbage as you say. There is 25% done instantly on a gen. That's a big deal.
On top of that, Your statement just seems made to provoke people.
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I main Legion.... but Ghost Face would be better if you don't like the rapid stab stab followed by a build in DS. Ugh... my poor Killer.
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@SleepyWillo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733554#Comment_733554
Are you actually complaining about BNPs? Seriously? They are useless and have been nerfed into the ground! Its insane that uncommon addons are now better than ultra-rare!
And tbh - insta heals are weaker than iri hatchets and ebo-moris...
- Toolbox Repair action is replaced with Install Brand New Part.
- Installing the Brand New Part will complete 15 % of a Generator over 5 seconds.
- During the install, you will be faced with 2 difficult Skill Checks.
- Hitting each Skill Check will result in 5 % progression each for a maximum of 25 % added progression.
A 1/4th a gen done is under powered? You don't have a concept of balance.
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@arslaN said:
Punishing dc's isn't going to fix anything. Survivors will kill themselves on hook if they don't want to play that match anymore.
A better solution would be to fix why survivors dc in some cases. No one enjoys going against broken addons like iridescent head huntress or prayer beads spirit.
Cool, so nerf the Killers and raise up the Survivors.
Could ya not? That isn't how you balance. In this case, I'm not even sure you can other than punishing DC's. There isnt any way to keep EVERYONE from DCing other than that. Defanging the Killers (even more) isn't gonna do anything more than piss Killers off.
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@humanbeing1704 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733508#Comment_733508
but how does that benefit the hooked person in any way?
No idea. But I got a question for you... how could the Devs or anyone else tell when a face camp happens?
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I've been told that I could get banned for trapping exit gates. Hilarious.
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@Volfawott said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/733485#Comment_733485
A survivor disconnecting punishes everybody it makes the rest of the survivors job a lot more difficult.
It denies both points and emblems to both the other survivors and killer.
As for camping I agree survivor should be penalized if it's actual facecamping but a lot of the time what people tend to refer to as camping or tunneling isn't
It's the Killer being near the hook cause he saw someone or is kicking a gen. I know, cause I've been called a camper when I do that or chase there stupid teammate around the hook. IT's not my fault they don't peel off. Oh and got called a tunneler when I don't even slug.
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People honestly need to chill in this game. I get told to kill myself all the time when i play Legion of all Killers. Like, Why?
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@Faceless said:
survivors sholdn't be penalized when killer camp
The rest of the team gets free gens.
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I have people DC when I play Legion.
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@Xboned said:
It would be nice to see a discussion about game issues that doesn't immediately devolve into fifty pages of sweaty ad hominem attacks.
I agree. SO MUCH!
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I can only speak from the Killer side, as I know it can be bad on both sides, but the amount of salt I get while playing LEGION of all Killers.... I've been told to kill myself more than any other game and I don't even slug! I don't understand it all. It's like... some (SOME NOT ALL) Survivors think that if the Killer tries to win at all, then they should be punished. Some (NOT ALL) seem to think that anything they have an issue with should be nerfed into the ground. It's really an unhealthy view point to the game.
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@Mochan said:
Killers can be really toxic and entitled to, lots of killers DC when ruin blows up before they get a hook or when they get looped around a bit or if someone goes sabo. And if they don't DC they punish the survivor who dares make fun of him by face camping him on hook.
I don't want to hear about complaints on DC'ing survivors when killers act just as immaturely.
Especially if you're just running Nurse, Spirit or Billy.
There is crap on both sides. It's how humans work.
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I play Legion. The issue is alot of the other killers get bullied really hard at higher ranks.
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Honestly, you right. No talk can go long without it going to "Killer Vs. Survivor." These places are meant to give good and usable feedback, not the stupid asinine crap that they do get.
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I mean, why do you think I main him? It's not cause i like suffering or anything.
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@Regionlock said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/732705#Comment_732705
Well that's all connection I think. The same can be said about pallet stun landing all the while a hit delays on the survivor still goes through, or fast vaulting a window but getting hit from a reach that shouldn't have landed.
Naw man, i get it. Just expressing the main thought i got on pallets.
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@NullSp3c said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/732080#Comment_732080
I think they are, because their scale of "slight" or "major" or "nerf" or "buff" isn't correct, in the Legion update by a lot.
My point is that they can say" slightly" but it can turn "major", even tho they want it slightly.
Like the "major buff" on Legion turned in a "major nerf".
Just to make it clear, I don't agree with what the OP said but I think that they will mess up something, even tho they've been doing a great job lately. In my opinion of course.
*cries in Legion main*
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it's two letters that are used cause what else do you say in post game other than toxic crap?
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@ArrowTheGreat11 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/732626#Comment_732626
The game is balanced around solos, not SWF. Communication is what makes the game unbalanced
So you agree! Cool.
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I'm just tired of going "That should not have hit me." every time the very barest corner of a dropping pallet gets anywhere near me.
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@ArrowTheGreat11 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/732607#Comment_732607
Maybe against SWF it feels that way, but I main solo survivor and all my teammates are incompetent, even at red ranks.
Point number two, SWF makes everything hard to balance.
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@Phox said:
I could be wrong, but I think new/casual players have a hard time going against her and asking for nerfs is always easier than trying to learn how to go against her. Also, a few big streamers openly hate going against her, and hive mind mentality is definitely a thing.
Very true.
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@ArrowTheGreat11 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/732463#Comment_732463
So because one group was bullying means that you have to rely on being the best killer in the game to make yourself feel better? 😂😂😂😂
Wow, you are not getting it. I hate playing Nurse and Spirit myself. I hate Nurse cause her blinks make me nauseous. I hate Spirit cause I don't find her fun. Guess who I play? LEGION. Now, that you know i don't "Play the best Killer in the game to make myself feel better" maybe you will understand. There are people, that get tired of being stomped in this unbalanced AF game. So they grab the better ones and get good at it so they dont have to deal with it.
The point is, it shouldn't be so EASY to bully KILLERS! They are KILLERS. I don't see how you don't get, in a 1 vs. 4 game the 1 should be as strong as the 4 together. I don't see why the DEVS don't either!
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I use both, though a word of warning. You see that blood in front of the locker? They prolly have Head-on. Approach with care.
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@ArrowTheGreat11 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/730862#Comment_730862
Lol you can get a 4K with any killer as long as you’re good. You don’t need to play as the most overpowered killer in the game cause one group outplayed you
I see you utterly missed the point. Go watch the whole video. "Depressing Clown Game." They were toxic and trying to bully him the whole time. THAT is why he said that. Not cause he didn't get anyone. Try and see the whole picture.
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@Omegargon said:
Wait what, Purple Add-on only increase 1 SECOND ? How can it be moderately ?
Look at what i said to the other guy.
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@Groxiverde said:
Purple add-on: adds 1 second
Red add-on: adds 10 seconds
Yeah I don't see anything wrong here
You want to see wrong? Go look at Legion add-ons. Considerably apparently equals 0.6 seconds off the stun at the end of FF. Oh oh! Or all the HORRID BUTTONS!
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@Maelstrom10 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/730866#Comment_730866
Honestly though the only one i ever use is joeys mixtape (reduced cooldown right?) to get out of my power faster. that series stacked always seems the most useful to me imo.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/730874#Comment_730874
true true, i just thought i'd bring this up for discussion, heavily awaiting the doctor addon rework though!
Joey's? That's umm... oh yea, a 0.4 second decrease to the 4 second stun, bringing it down to 3.6.
.... Legion Add-ons are so bad.
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No.
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I am a Legion main.... and I still voted for Legion. Can we please get some help for Legion? ...Please?
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@Maelstrom10 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/730859#Comment_730859
Oh deffinately man. even the double stab addons need a simple rework to either be applied on hit or decrease the cooldown of being forced out of your power on a double stab as they are currently too punishing to use :/
Deffinately looking foward to the nurse addon changes though!
Yeah, Nurse add-ons have been broken since Pig chapter changed how she worked.
The Button Add-ons are near worthless. Most of the other ones are too. "Increase Killer Instinct range" sure, so i can see the people i can't reach with my slower running and the DS the game forces me to take when I end my power. I get it's information, but nothing I can practically use.
(But as a Legion Main, I could talk about this for a while)
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@Gamzello said:
I was thinking the same thing honestly. Months after she’s been released nobody had a problem with her until recently?
Its quite strange honestly.
Cause they got the nuke called down on Legion and found a new target.