why not rollback middle vault? its too fast right now

above certain ranks sane people not pull out any sort of loopable killers

which hits only given from survivors mistaken or high pingrate

if first chase survivor know how to play this game decently so doesnt make any mistakes quick enough

game already blown from gen speed

because lots of killers have no mobility

you can't chase speed of gen after few unavoidable weakfest of your character

if theres 3walking bonuses and 1human being skilled player

you lost from chased human being skilled player first



if rollback middle vault before it buffed

it will make only best and lucky survivors can loop best wm1 killers all day


now? hit by wm1 feels like accident

unless map spawn very badly for survivor faction


doesn't matter whats characters individual tiers

if its main attack using method of wm1 its automatically weak as hell

i glad not everyone adapted this game yet because thats how people keep playing wm1s


also some people of here started to saying wm1 is all clueless agans good players

so im happy because its faster than expected

i originally thought 2years nurse broken becoming common sense

Comments

  • Clown was mega nerfed when they changed Mid vault.

  • First they need to fix the positioning after the Vault. They did not do that since they made the change and it is really annoying to get hits while playing the Window correctly.

  • I'd be down for this if they brought back old fast vaults since currently it just really likes to snap you backwards after vaulting which ends up allowing you to get hit nearly everytime.

  • Lmao, medium-vaults are garbage and usually get you hit, not to mention most of the time you do this accidentally when it should have a been a fast-vault.

  • sounds like someone doesn't know when to take the swing and when to maneuver around the obstacle.

  • @NurseMainBTW said:

    Lmao, medium-vaults are garbage and usually get you hit, not to mention most of the time you do this accidentally when it should have a been a fast-vault.

    @Avariku said:

    sounds like someone doesn't know when to take the swing and when to maneuver around the obstacle.

    if these people playing in red or purple

    i lost my hope they follow our skill level in a year

    so can you guys tell me 1year later?

  • I play survivor at red ranks, every season.

    Against high rank killers, except very rare cases such as Rancid abattoir, medium vaults will always result in getting hit since killers know how to chase and apply extreme pressure using jukes.

    I think you should step down from your pretty pedestal and accept facts.


  • @NurseMainBTW said:

    I play survivor at red ranks, every season.

    Against high rank killers, except very rare cases such as Rancid abattoir, medium vaults will always result in getting hit since killers know how to chase and apply extreme pressure using jukes.

    I think you should step down from your pretty pedestal and accept facts.

    because you are bad survivor and your people not playing nurspirits only

    even with your mistaken wm1s weak enough to make you keep playing in red

    thats how you miss matching with my idea

    if you want, remember this page and tell me 1year later

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    I don't think medium vaults are too fast, especially considering how easy and flexible fast vaults used to be. You must remember that even after medium vaulting, the survivor can still be hit from the window, so medium vaulting is much worse than fast vaulting, which puts you at a distance from the window.

    Unfortunately, when they changed how medium vaulting works was also the death of Clown. That was a big nerf to him.

    If they made his gas slow down vaulting speed to a ratio that was around before the medium vault change, he'd probably be okay again.

    thanks

    i get the idea but already considered that half years ago and before wrote this too

    still theres many windows good to extend loop scale safely

    and if killer not having bamboozle almost everymaps having those

    killer can lose 1gen from 2pallets and if its first chase, game is already blown up from it


    what im trying to do is make asia players play varius killers

    whatever survivors does any killer should have some potential

    not only nurspirits

  • @NuclearBurrito said:

    What buff?

    killer had faster(both speed and time) bloodrust and survivor had slower middle vault

  • @NuclearBurrito said:

    What buff?

    read patch notes around half years ago

  • @prettyf said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744943#Comment_744943

    killer had faster(both speed and time) bloodrust and survivor had slower middle vault

    What patch buffed medium vaults specifically.

  • why i have to specifically find you certain imformation other people knows

    theres unlimited people online

    im not your mother

  • @prettyf said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744963#Comment_744963

    why i have to specifically find you certain imformation other people knows

    theres unlimited people online

    im not your mother

    Because you are the person making the complaint.

    People that don't complain about medium vault buffs don't need to specify what they are talking about.

  • @NuclearBurrito said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744979#Comment_744979

    Because you are the person making the complaint.

    People that don't complain about medium vault buffs don't need to specify what they are talking about.

    it was patch note and every other people knew and focus on subject

    you don't know but wanted to involve yourself here

    hello logic

    no worth talking for nothing

  • @prettyf said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744990#Comment_744990

    it was patch note and every other people knew and focus on subject

    you don't know but wanted to involve yourself here

    hello logic

    no worth talking for nothing

    There are a lot of patch notes and given a specific change suggestion I can evaluate it. You haven't presented a specific suggestion. I can't evaluate "revert medium vault buff" because I'm not aware of any medium vault buffs. If you just said what the buff was and thus properly defined what exactly it is you are suggesting then there would be no problem.

    And no just saying "it was slower" doesn't cut it. That could be anything from forever to 1 second. Until then I'm going to just assume you're blowing something small like an animation change or something out of proportion.

  • @prettyf said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/745009#Comment_745009

    not everyone dumb enough to confuse motion change and actual change

    Then prove it and specify the change.

  • @prettyf said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744990#Comment_744990

    it was patch note and every other people knew and focus on subject

    you don't know but wanted to involve yourself here

    hello logic

    no worth talking for nothing

    The insults are unnecessary. It's not unreasonable for @NuclearBurrito to expect you to back up your claim with evidence when asked. If "everyone", yourself included, knows exactly which patch you're talking about, you shouldn't have any trouble finding that information to support your argument.

  • why i have to prove not even look smart enough to understand this simple thing

    especially when other people already knew about it


  • @Fibijean said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744997#Comment_744997

    The insults are unnecessary. It's not unreasonable for @NuclearBurrito to expect you to back up your claim with evidence when asked. If "everyone", yourself included, knows exactly which patch you're talking about, you shouldn't have any trouble finding that information to support your argument.

    hey hey bro it wasn't last patch, its hard to find right now and such waste of time

    and that certain patch was major changed this game balance,

    if you keep played this game since 1year ago you never miss that by any feeling or at"forums"

    and that guy having my x10 posts at official forum so its his fault

  • @prettyf said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/745040#Comment_745040

    hey hey bro it wasn't last patch, its hard to find right now and such waste of time

    and that certain patch was major changed this game balance,

    if you keep played this game since 1year ago you never miss that by any feeling or at"forums"

    and that guy having my x10 posts at official forum so its his fault

    It's his fault that you can't be bothered to present evidence to support your ideas?

    If you think backing up your own argument is a waste of time, that's fine, but I don't know how you expect anybody else to take your ideas seriously in that case.

    I've been playing this game since soon after release, and long before these forums existed, and I couldn't possibly tell you exactly which patch number a certain change was made in. Again, if you're that much better-informed, you ought to be able to procure necessary evidence without any trouble. If you're not, that's no one else's fault.

    If you want to discuss your ideas, stop blaming people for trying to engage with them.


  • @Fibijean said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/745055#Comment_745055

    It's his fault that you can't be bothered to present evidence to support your ideas?

    If you think backing up your own argument is a waste of time, that's fine, but I don't know how you expect anybody else to take your ideas seriously in that case.

    I've been playing this game since soon after release, and long before these forums existed, and I couldn't possibly tell you exactly which patch number a certain change was made in. Again, if you're that much better-informed, you ought to be able to procure necessary evidence without any trouble. If you're not, that's no one else's fault.

    If you want to discuss your ideas, stop blaming people for trying to engage with them.

    yes im bad person for you right now but think about other direction


    i just focused on balance, look at subject

    even if i found and copy pasted him right away

    he didn't knew patch was there, meant he never involve about subject what so ever


    and another thing i wanted to point was finger princing

    if you want to talk about balance, you should know about basics

    we both could googling but we didn't, thats all

    i already knew it was 0.1 sec changed

    and told that 10% how big impacted in this game so i wrote whole thing about it

  • @[Deleted User] said:

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/745027#Comment_745027

    It was patch 2.5.0 in the PTB. Specifically:

    • Adjusted the Vault mechanic so that survivors come out of the vault with momentum, instead of being set to 0 movement speed after a vault.
    • Changed the Medium Vault speed to last 0.9 seconds down from 1 second.

    Thank you <3

    Is a 0.1 second buff really that big of a deal? Like yeah I'm sure it matters sometimes but I highly doubt that it's big enough deal to for example Kill the clowns viability.