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  • @DarkWo1f997 said:
    My goodness you don’t like admitting you are wrong. 

    Except I'm not wrong because I never said I've never called anyone bad, lmfao.

  • @The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    Maybe they are more interested in making cosmetics for a Halloween event over actually making good changes.. 

    Yea because you really want the art team working on killer/survivor changes, lol.

  • @Nickenzie said:
    It's not that every killer main is bad tho, yes there is SOME killer mains that are bad however telling a killer main to "Get gud" in every post won't always be the solution to the problem. Sometimes there's a ACTUAL problem and getting better won't solve it. See where I'm coming from @SenzuDuck?

    Oh absolutely, I have definitely said there are bad killers, but it usually isn't directed at someone.

    In this thread - bad killers

    Not directed at anyone, just the ones that are in that thread moaning about whatever it is they're moaning about (out of context, btw)

    Unfortunately this is what bad killers suggest when they need babying through the match. If he'd just get better he'd realise it isn't that bad.

    At the end of this comment I literally say "if he'd get better". Another comment out of context though, this is fun.

    Killers are weak. Always will be, you know why? Because the bad ones would rather moan and complain or gloat about an update on a forum instead of actually getting better at the game.

    Again, this comment I literally talk about getting better at the game, and refer to them as being weak killers at the start. In the middle I absolutely call them bad because THE BAD ONES do constantly moan on this forum. (another out of context comment, yaaaaay)

    There's a plethora of buffs for killers in this patch but all they can complain about is DS, those killers are BAD.

    But i don't usually say "you are bad" which is what you apparently quoted me as saying, unless it's someone arguing pointlessly about something, like that one guy who thinks pallets being further apart is a survivor buff, he's definitely bad.

  • You will most likely never get Auric Cells for free, stop wanting what others have paid for, for free.

    Earn it, Pay for it, or don't have it.
    The game is complete without any of the cosmetics or DLCS. You do NOT need them.

    Devotion should have some reward though, but not cells.

  • Nickenzie said:
    I understand, sometimes it is your fault for losing but saying that "You are bad" isn't a excuse for EVERY thread. Period.
    The majority of people complain on this forum because they’ve had a couple of bad matches. They definitely need to get better.

    And telling people to get better isn't calling them bad, this is another thing the killers I tell this too don't understand, they're too sensitive. 
  • Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @switch said:

    @fcc2014 said:

    @switch kind of think you are the injured party. How a DS change which we don't even know what the end result of that change is , was somehow go to change the game entirely. I have a feeling it wasn't going to help you all that much. They continue to rework things and people still are not happy on both sides. Maybe just play the game or play something else. I mean you do like to quote Cote. Didn't he recommend that. Maybe this isn't the game for you.

    wanna bet 100$ that they will scrap dstrike idea forever?

    I play this game since beta, you probably werent here when they tested 1 heal only ptb and scraped that like was nothing.

    Just like the SC idea got scraped

    Because they made healing in general, for everyone slower.
    
    You'd rather them specifically target SC instead of targeting healing for everyone? You got a better nerf than originally intended and you still cry.
    

    But what should I expect from the killer who cries about balance but intentionally plays at lower ranks so he can have an easier time playing against low ranked survs.

    Meh...

    When you mock deranking killers, but play SWF with noob ranked survivors to get matched against low rank killers.

    I play with anyone that joins, that’s the fun thing, I could have someone join who’s rank I’ve never seen before, but obviously intentionally going against lower ranked survivors Is exactly the same as not knowing which ranked killer you will go against.

    if you can’t see the difference between intentional and accidental then you don’t really have a case tbh.

    ive had a team of three green ranks going against rank one killers, ive had it all. I don’t specificslly target any rank and I don’t specifically ask certain ranks to join. 

    But hey, it’s you and you just like arguing.

    You don´t have to justify yourself for playing with randoms, which happen to be at a lower rank than yourself. But don´t try to mock others for doing basically the same thing, with switched roles.

    Btw. This is not arguing. We aren´t even discussing. I´m just expressing my disapointment, while you don´t see anything wrong in your actions.

    Intentional is malicious
    playing with whoever wants to play because I’m a nice guy is very very different. 

    And I’ll happily continue playing no coms swf if they start forcing us to play high ranked killers only bc I don’t care, I just enjoy the game
  • Nickenzie said:
    yeet said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @yeet said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @yeet said:

    SenzuDuck said:

    @ZombieGenesis said:
    

    @SenzuDuck said:

    ooft, almost like he said he shouldn't have to run perks to counter, damn.
    
    
    
    Nope, said you shouldn't have to run certain perks. Not run no perks. Not quite the same thing. So is that all you're gonna do? Put words in people's mouths and twist the words they do use? What a shock. Once again contributing nothing useful to anything around you.
    
    
    
    I read it as two response.
    
    Killers are supposed to be able top counter everything a survivor does without addons and perks
    
    Yeah they shouldn't, that's called good game design.
    
    
    
    they shouldn't have to run perks to counter pallets, gah.
    
    Someone should never feel forced to run certain perks.
    

    survivors can counter everything a killer can do without perks, but apparently killers shouldn't be able to do the same.

    Damn... whats that thing called? I'm struggling... like, I'm sure there's a way to entirely remove survivors out of the match, can't quite put my tongue on it.

    It looks something like this.

    I'm glad you've conceded that you don't have an argument.

    Because killing isn't a counter at all, is it?
    Can survivor actually stop you hitting them?
    Can they stop you breaking pallets?

    I'm not entirely sure what survivors actually CAN counter against a survivor.

    your reasoning is patently absurd
    @yeet you have to ignore people like @SenzuDuck because all he ever does is say that killer's are bad. Trust me, it's his excuse for every thread and it only works for so long until killer found out that he is full of it! :)
    Both killers and survivors are bad. Only seems the killers are the ones that get their nickers in a twist and say that I’m biased lmfao.
  • Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @switch said:

    @fcc2014 said:
    @switch kind of think you are the injured party. How a DS change which we don't even know what the end result of that change is , was somehow go to change the game entirely. I have a feeling it wasn't going to help you all that much. They continue to rework things and people still are not happy on both sides. Maybe just play the game or play something else. I mean you do like to quote Cote. Didn't he recommend that. Maybe this isn't the game for you.

    wanna bet 100$ that they will scrap dstrike idea forever?
    I play this game since beta, you probably werent here when they tested 1 heal only ptb and scraped that like was nothing.

    Just like the SC idea got scraped

    Because they made healing in general, for everyone slower.

    You'd rather them specifically target SC instead of targeting healing for everyone? You got a better nerf than originally intended and you still cry.

    But what should I expect from the killer who cries about balance but intentionally plays at lower ranks so he can have an easier time playing against low ranked survs.

    Meh...
    When you mock deranking killers, but play SWF with noob ranked survivors to get matched against low rank killers.

    I play with anyone that joins, that’s the fun thing, I could have someone join who’s rank I’ve never seen before, but obviously intentionally going against lower ranked survivors Is exactly the same as not knowing which ranked killer you will go against.

    if you can’t see the difference between intentional and accidental then you don’t really have a case tbh.

    ive had a team of three green ranks going against rank one killers, ive had it all. I don’t specificslly target any rank and I don’t specifically ask certain ranks to join. 

    But hey, it’s you and you just like arguing.
  • @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @switch said:

    @fcc2014 said:
    @switch kind of think you are the injured party. How a DS change which we don't even know what the end result of that change is , was somehow go to change the game entirely. I have a feeling it wasn't going to help you all that much. They continue to rework things and people still are not happy on both sides. Maybe just play the game or play something else. I mean you do like to quote Cote. Didn't he recommend that. Maybe this isn't the game for you.

    wanna bet 100$ that they will scrap dstrike idea forever?
    I play this game since beta, you probably werent here when they tested 1 heal only ptb and scraped that like was nothing.

    Just like the SC idea got scraped

    Because they made healing in general, for everyone slower.

    You'd rather them specifically target SC instead of targeting healing for everyone? You got a better nerf than originally intended and you still cry.

    But what should I expect from the killer who cries about balance but intentionally plays at lower ranks so he can have an easier time playing against low ranked survs.

  • Wow, killers crying about perk changes for survivors? Who'd have thunk it.

  • It would be very nice if spies from the shadows prevented Diversion from alerting you, a total counter to it.

  • @yeet said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @yeet said:

    SenzuDuck said:

    @ZombieGenesis said:
    

    @SenzuDuck said:

    ooft, almost like he said he shouldn't have to run perks to counter, damn.
    
    
    
    Nope, said you shouldn't have to run certain perks. Not run no perks. Not quite the same thing. So is that all you're gonna do? Put words in people's mouths and twist the words they do use? What a shock. Once again contributing nothing useful to anything around you.
    
    
    
    I read it as two response.
    
    Killers are supposed to be able top counter everything a survivor does without addons and perks
    
    Yeah they shouldn't, that's called good game design.
    
    
    
    they shouldn't have to run perks to counter pallets, gah.
    
    Someone should never feel forced to run certain perks.
    

    survivors can counter everything a killer can do without perks, but apparently killers shouldn't be able to do the same.

    Damn... whats that thing called? I'm struggling... like, I'm sure there's a way to entirely remove survivors out of the match, can't quite put my tongue on it.

    It looks something like this.

    I'm glad you've conceded that you don't have an argument.

    Because killing isn't a counter at all, is it?
    Can survivor actually stop you hitting them?
    Can they stop you breaking pallets?

    I'm not entirely sure what survivors actually CAN counter against a survivor.

  • @yeet said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @ZombieGenesis said:

     @SenzuDuck said:
    

    ooft, almost like he said he shouldn't have to run perks to counter, damn.

    Nope, said you shouldn't have to run certain perks. Not run no perks. Not quite the same thing. So is that all you're gonna do? Put words in people's mouths and twist the words they do use? What a shock. Once again contributing nothing useful to anything around you.

    I read it as two response.

    Killers are supposed to be able top counter everything a survivor does without addons and perks

    Yeah they shouldn't, that's called good game design.

    they shouldn't have to run perks to counter pallets, gah.

    Someone should never feel forced to run certain perks.

    survivors can counter everything a killer can do without perks, but apparently killers shouldn't be able to do the same.

    Damn... whats that thing called? I'm struggling... like, I'm sure there's a way to entirely remove survivors out of the match, can't quite put my tongue on it.

    It looks something like this.

  • @ZombieGenesis said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    It's about playing around your strengths and weaknesses, but I guess you would need unlimited slots to be able to do anything in a match.'

    That afraid of an actual debate or argument that you must constantly resort to juvenile namecalling and baiting? Good, I'm glad you're showing your true colors. Enjoy your night. I'll be sure to do the same by forgetting you exist.

    Wow, not replying to me because it makes sense to run perks that help you with things you're bad at, good night, sleep well.

  • @ZombieGenesis said:
    @DarkWo1f997 Sadly it's the survivor battle cry "Just run (insert any number of perks here)!" Because killers have unlimited perk slots and should never be able to run a fun build that they actually enjoy.

    If you're bad at looping, run enduring and eat a pallet.

    If you're bad at pressure run Pop/Overcharge/Ruin

    It's about playing around your strengths and weaknesses, but I guess you would need unlimited slots to be able to do anything in a match.

  • @ZombieGenesis said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    ooft, almost like he said he shouldn't have to run perks to counter, damn.

    Nope, said you shouldn't have to run certain perks. Not run no perks. Not quite the same thing. So is that all you're gonna do? Put words in people's mouths and twist the words they do use? What a shock. Once again contributing nothing useful to anything around you.

    I read it as two response.

    Killers are supposed to be able top counter everything a survivor does without addons and perks

    Yeah they shouldn't, that's called good game design.

    they shouldn't have to run perks to counter pallets, gah.

    Someone should never feel forced to run certain perks.

  • @powerbats said:

    @yeet said:

    I was speaking in the context of when a killer catches a survivor out of position say on a gen, they're basically always going to be able to get to a loop.

    Oh ok thanks for clarifying that since it made no sense in that context. I run into the same thing, brain thinks too fast and forgets.

    I agree, this is a massive issue, survivors trying to survive is so stupid, I think they should have nothing to slow down the killer and once downed should be able to auto hook if they want.

  • @ZombieGenesis said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    The constant "I shouldn't have to run ruin to play this game" posts. I'm sure you could find one quite easily.

    And yet you didn't. So...

    I'm just saying, hyperbole is never your friend. It does nothing but weaken whatever argument you may be trying to make. You're the first one to complain about people "putting things in your mouth" and yet you are also the very first person to do that same thing to other people.

    Let me just quote @yeet real quick

    @yeet said:
    SenzuDuck said:
    Killers are supposed to be able top counter everything a survivor does without addons and perks, they shouldn't have to run perks to counter pallets, gah.

    Yeah they shouldn't, that's called good game design. Someone should never feel forced to run certain perks.

    ooft, almost like he said he shouldn't have to run perks to counter, damn.

  • @ZombieGenesis said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    Stop dude, mentioning perks is a nono.
    Killers are supposed to be able top counter everything a survivor does without addons and perks, they shouldn't have to run perks to counter pallets, gah.

    Show one post from any thread where a killer has said this. Can't? DIdn't think so. Once again wasting time and derailing threads with nonsense.

    The constant "I shouldn't have to run ruin to play this game" posts. I'm sure you could find one quite easily.

    Edit - Yeet literally just said that he shouldn't have to run perks, see below. GG.

  • @powerbats said:

    @yeet said:

    having a pallet within SB distance 100% of the time isn't a good thing for killers

    Ok here you lost me, if someones running and has already activated SB how are they getting to that next pallet if they stop to drop a pallet on you? I mean in the sense that dropping that pallet negates the SB and then they're at normal run speed.

    If they don't stun you with it and you have Spirit Fury or another perk and you mow right through it. You get LOS back and can still out run them, if they use 2 God Pallets and you destroy them that screws them and their team over.

    Stop dude, mentioning perks is a nono.
    Killers are supposed to be able top counter everything a survivor does without addons and perks, they shouldn't have to run perks to counter pallets, gah.

  • @yeet said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Visionmaker said:

    😐

    I think it's just safe to assume he is bad at this game, we should move on.

    0 response to my argument except "you are bad lol!!!!!!"
    typical of survivor mains tbh

    My mindset is one at the highest level of play with efficient and consistent survivors, i really don't see how more even pallet distribution is in any way bad for survivors.

    Because they are a SURVIVOR tool, not a killer tool, they are to be used by SURVIVORS, not KILLERS. So they aren't made to be 100% your side, you can eat the pallet, or mind game, or use the PLETHORA of counters killers have to make them easier to steam roll through.

    But this means that survivors are less likely to be in a loop for a longer time, I don't understand how you think it's a buff LOL

    BUT SURVIVOR HAVE TO REACH THEM FOR THEM BE USEFUL.

  • @Visionmaker said:
    😐

    I think it's just safe to assume he is bad at this game, we should move on.

  • @yeet said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @yeet said:

    SenzuDuck said:

    @yeet said:
    
    SenzuDuck said:
    

    @switch said: Dude did you really think they would touch anything on the survivor side ? Since like how long is that broken perk in the game? 2 years, and they are not still happy with it ? Just rework it like tinkerer and call it the day. This just shows you on which side they are. Just shows how biased you are really... Yea, they never made healing take longer this patch they didn't buff the spirit even more they didn't force pallets to spawn 16 meters away at least they didn't nerf exhaustion perks they didn't speed up hooking survivors they didn't speed up picking up survivors damn man, you're right - they never change anything to benefit killers

    Spreading pallets out is a survivor buff...
    
    
    
    Good God, you cannot please these people!
    
    Do you want pallets every 8 meters then?
    
    they either put pallets close together and you all moan, or they separate them AND YOU STILL MOAN.
    

    Becoming so upset when i point out a flaw in your reasoning is not a way to make yourself look good.

    "Spreading pallets is a survivor buff" Wow, good job buddy, you really destroyed me there, how will I ever cope with the absolute smack-down you just put upon me, gosh. I better lay down and recuperate.

    Clearly you think having survivor run further distances until they're safe is a buff, apparently you must not be a very good killer.

    running further until they're safe means that the chase takes much longer, additionally it's 16 meters not half the map.

    Are you just forgetting to chase the survivor in this scenario or something? I honestly can't understand your reasoning that having survivors out in the open, for longer is beneficial to them, what even is your mind set.

  • @yeet said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @yeet said:

    SenzuDuck said:

    @switch said:
    
    Dude did you really think they would touch anything on the survivor side ?
    
    Since like how long is that broken perk in the game? 2 years, and they are not still happy with it ?
    
    Just rework it like tinkerer and call it the day.
    
    This just shows you on which side they are.
    
    
    
    Just shows how biased you are really...
    
    Yea, they never made healing take longer this patch
    
    they didn't buff the spirit even more
    
    they didn't force pallets to spawn 16 meters away at least
    
    they didn't nerf exhaustion perks
    
    they didn't speed up hooking survivors
    
    they didn't speed up picking up survivors
    
    damn man, you're right - they never change anything to benefit killers
    

    Spreading pallets out is a survivor buff...

    Good God, you cannot please these people!

    Do you want pallets every 8 meters then?

    they either put pallets close together and you all moan, or they separate them AND YOU STILL MOAN.

    Becoming so upset when i point out a flaw in your reasoning is not a way to make yourself look good.

    "Spreading pallets is a survivor buff" Wow, good job buddy, you really destroyed me there, how will I ever cope with the absolute smack-down you just put upon me, gosh. I better lay down and recuperate.

    Clearly you think having survivor run further distances until they're safe is a buff, apparently you must not be a very good killer.

  • @yeet said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @switch said:

    Dude did you really think they would touch anything on the survivor side ?

    Since like how long is that broken perk in the game? 2 years, and they are not still happy with it ?

    Just rework it like tinkerer and call it the day.

    This just shows you on which side they are.

    Just shows how biased you are really...

    Yea, they never made healing take longer this patch

    they didn't buff the spirit even more

    they didn't force pallets to spawn 16 meters away at least

    they didn't nerf exhaustion perks

    they didn't speed up hooking survivors

    they didn't speed up picking up survivors

    damn man, you're right - they never change anything to benefit killers

    Spreading pallets out is a survivor buff...

    Good God, you cannot please these people!

    Do you want pallets every 8 meters then?

    they either put pallets close together and you all moan, or they separate them AND YOU STILL MOAN.

  • @switch said:
    Read your first line and didnt bother to read the rest.
    I can change survivors main no one can.
    Take your line killers op and so on, talking to walls are more productive then talking to you.

    1. Obviously you wouldn't reply, everything I say makes sense, you're just moaning because you're bad
    2. I wish I knew what that meant
    3. I never said killers are op, I definitely said they have counter though, lets continue twisting my words and you can continue to pretend on a forum that you're good at the game.
  • @SoylentPixie said:

    @SenzuDuck said:
    BUT MUH DS.
    I still hate DS, but at least I can realise they're changing and making killer easier for those that feel they need >a little hand holding, hopefully some killers will feel less useless at rank one and wont force themselves >down ranks.

    yea dude, by this comment you can really tell I support DS.

    I honestly thought selective reading was the main staple that upheld most of these arguments.

    The amount of times I have seen someone accused of the exact opposite of what they actually said, makes me think some people are literally clapping their hands over their eyes "Lalala i can't see it so it isn't real" just to try and get the last word in.

    I personally don't really give a cats fart in a tin whistle about DS, I found it to be an underwhelming perk as a survivor, and i honestly don't see it as much as i expected as a killer (maybe a ps4 thing)

    I mean people can play verbal tennis all they want i guess, but ignoring the truth just to get a dig in seems daft.

    It's so often that I say something contradictory to what someone says and they immediately accuse me of supporting something because I've said I don't agree with certain things they've stated, it's ridiculous.

    you'll see it a lot on this forum, people ignore half the the thread, start talking crap to you - then when they say something stupid they're like "well i wasn't going to read the thread now was I" how about don't partake if you're not going to read the entire thread.

  • @KingB said:
    If they increased the base heal time does that mean self-care takes longer?

    Absolutely, healing on the floor takes longer, healing team mates takes longer, healing yourself takes longer.

  • @switch said:
    I could go ahead and write all the things that survivors have over killers but that would take too long and i dont feel like wasting time.

    Yea, sure dude, there's so many things survivor can do that killers can't counter, not at all.

    Just cause they add 4 seconds more to heal that doesnt mean good survivors will be affected, unless they play like braindeads which 95% of the swf teams tend to do. i'm right, wont impact the game to heavly against good survivors.

    Yea, I heard the rumour too that good survivor can bend time and mitigate the addition of the 4 seconds, this means you have an additional four seconds as a killer before injured people can even try and help/bodyblock, if you don't see the benefit of that and can't capitalize on it you're probably very bad at this game.

    -she was and still is mid and very addon dependend, have you played her naked? with 0 addons you barely can go 30meters away and wait 15 seconds to do that again.
    110% mv speed BTW, let that sink in for a moment.

    This one makes me laugh, as survivor get better (higher rank apparently) of course you're going to need addons, at rank one killers shouldn't be 4King every match without addons, that's stupid.

    i'm confused on what are you trying to say here, i guess you do miss double pallets, yeah 10 pallets in 20 meters were fair right.

    I mean, the PTBs been out for like 10 seconds and haven't really tested it which is why I'm not crying on the forums about being bad, but I play killer just as much as I do survivor, but yes - because I'm not blind and can see that killers have had buffs I must be a serious survivor main, right?

    besides the animation pick up, i dont think anyone said anything about hooking ( 0.5 seconds wins game OMEGALUL)

    Al;right, lets make it 0.5 seconds longer and pretend it doesn't matter, again survivor who body block at the hook have less time to get away, obviously a good killer would see that and capitalize but you're clearly bind to minor changes that can help a lot.

    you're right flashlights saves do need some skill right now i dont see the problem and why are you making a big problem from this, i guess you cant ez save your friends now. RIP

    I don't really bring items into the game tbh unless I'm asked by viewers on my stream or I'm testing the changes out.

    Yeah i dont want to read the entire thread just to answer you, my time is limited you know.

    So don't make assumptions about a perk that I never even mentioned just because I'm not blind to the things they've added for killer.

    They are making killer easier against decent/bad survivors, against survivors that know how to play its still impossible to win unless billy/nurse is on the wheel.

    Well if survivor are good, maybe you should become a better killer.

  • @switch said:
    Yeah they made another change just to make the game least the right amount ~10mins not 5 this patch- which doesnt impact the game against somewhat decent survivors.
    they did buff an underpowered killer just to make her somewhat competitive (not all killers should be viable -M cote lmao)
    they did fix another issue just to make it somewhat fair on long term chases
    You're right on this one. fair point
    they did save 0.5 seconds you're right WOAW
    Again fair point, now flashlight saves arent free escape anymore
    damn you really need to think before typing dude.
    I dont understand how can you defend such a stupid perk in the first place, maybe you need it so thats why otherwise no idea.

    Lol, killers complain about how fast matches go, they make healing slower, which means saves wont come in as quick and WE still complaining,Y I K E S.

    Underpowered Killer? God damn, she isn't that hard to play, you all need some heavy heavy practice, seriously.

    Oh, they changed pallet spawns but that doesn't matter or count because it just makes it fairer, right gotcha.

    obviously I'm right

    Oh no, killers always complain about how long it takes to do things, they make it faster but that doesn't matter because the survivors aren't hooking themselves for you

    again, another buff for killers that you shrug off because you still want to complain about flashlights.

    "Damn, you really need to think before you type" & "I dont understand how can you defend such a stupid perk in the first place, maybe you need it so thats why otherwise no idea" makes me laugh my ass off.

    ONCE AGAIN, i disagree on some thing which means I support d strike, not once in my reply to you did i mention dstrike but clearly I like it because I argue the fact that they always make changes in favour of the killer.

    Maybe you should learn to read, check my first comment in this thread

    BUT MUH DS.
    I still hate DS, but at least I can realise they're changing and making killer easier for those that feel they need >a little hand holding, hopefully some killers will feel less useless at rank one and wont force themselves >down ranks.

    yea dude, by this comment you can really tell I support DS.

  • @switch said:
    Dude did you really think they would touch anything on the survivor side ?
    Since like how long is that broken perk in the game? 2 years, and they are not still happy with it ?
    Just rework it like tinkerer and call it the day.
    This just shows you on which side they are.

    Just shows how biased you are really...

    Yea, they never made healing take longer this patch
    they didn't buff the spirit even more
    they didn't force pallets to spawn 16 meters away at least
    they didn't nerf exhaustion perks
    they didn't speed up hooking survivors
    they didn't speed up picking up survivors

    damn man, you're right - they never change anything to benefit killers

  • @Vietfox said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @fcc2014 said:

    @SenzuDuck I don't get it. Increased healing time, adjusted pallets again, changed spawn of totem on hills, adjusted moonlight offerings, made NOED viable at all 3 tiers, Buffed the killer emblem while adding a nerf to chaser if you camp, added some asked changes to the Spirit. and to 2 terrible maps for Killers and made them smaller. Like what the hell more do you want per patch.

    BUT MUH DS.

    I still hate DS, but at least I can realise they're changing and making killer easier for those that feel they need a little hand holding, hopefully some killers will feel less useless at rank one and wont force themselves down ranks.

    @SenzuDuck
    We know who you are talking about, lol.

    idk what you mean, people wouldn't be so silly as to admit they derank on a forum and then complain about how hard it is at their newly earned rank 15.

  • @fcc2014 said:
    @SenzuDuck I don't get it. Increased healing time, adjusted pallets again, changed spawn of totem on hills, adjusted moonlight offerings, made NOED viable at all 3 tiers, Buffed the killer emblem while adding a nerf to chaser if you camp, added some asked changes to the Spirit. and to 2 terrible maps for Killers and made them smaller. Like what the hell more do you want per patch.

    BUT MUH DS.

    I still hate DS, but at least I can realise they're changing and making killer easier for those that feel they need a little hand holding, hopefully some killers will feel less useless at rank one and wont force themselves down ranks.

  • @fcc2014 said:
    @not_Queen said they would explain why on thursday's Q&A why they are not satisfied. Hold off on the pitchforks and torches till then. They shrunk 2 of the worse maps, increased healing time, adjusted the Spirit again, and also it appears changed hex's on hills.

    They can't help it, man. We all know this, a bunch of other really nice changes, lets ignore that and moan anyway.

  • @Lowbei said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Lowbei said:

    lol sounds legit /winkwink

    Feel free to tune in, I screamed several times yesterday during #1

    no thanks, watching people fake being jumpscared for reaction views by non scary games is weak.

    you should try resident evil 7 and scream like a little girl. itll get you the viewers you seek.

    I don't need to fake anything, people actually want to watch me.

  • @Lowbei said:
    lol sounds legit /winkwink

    Feel free to tune in, I screamed several times yesterday during #1

  • Lowbei said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Lowbei said:
    thats funny, so funny that youve been racking up the LOL votes on this thread, and not from me.

    i can tell from your “im rank4, but could get rank1 if i really wanted” post that you dont frequent rank1 on either side.

    realtalk

    Theres someone following my account around hitting every LOL, it doesn't matter what thread I post in I get a LOL comment, it's either Tsulan or Orion. I don't really care much, remember that time you bragged about all your points and comment count, thats the real LOL

    Or that time you couldn't read simple threads and started arguing with me about something someone else said, hilarious - you're such a joker Lowbei.

    Imagine being so content with arguing on the forums you can't even keep track of who or what you're arguing about.

    I've still never seen you at rank one, it's never happened.

    realtalk

    lol speaking of, theres a forum badge problem https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/23075/alarm-major-forum-problem-alarm#latest

    also my steam profile is open. feel free to check my achievements and screenshots, and for giggles i would swf invite you later for some rank1 action, but your scrub rank might affect the matchmaking negatively. idk
    Id love to play SWF with you, except I actually have commitments to play Outlast 2 for my community, sorry bud.
  • Orion said:

    @Lowbei said:
    yeah theres definitely some funny stuff going on :) 

    Rule of thumb: when trolls try to silence you, that's how you know you're right.

    Or maybe I think that people who derank to have it easy shouldn’t be comlaining about how hard the game is.

    “You know you’re right” or people have different opinion, lol.
  • @Orion said:

    @Lowbei said:
    thats funny, so funny that youve been racking up the LOL votes on this thread, and not from me.

    Many people (primarily people who defend Killers and point out how unbalanced the game is) have been getting such reactions. My first comment on this thread, simply expressing agreement and telling the OP not to allow the thread to go off-topic by ignoring off-topic comments, received 7 LOLs almost immediately and now sits at 8. My guess is, there are trolls trying to silence people who ask for well-deserved Killer buffs, and those on the other side have begun to do the same.

    I don't even vote on this forum so I can assure you it isn't me.

  • @Lowbei said:
    thats funny, so funny that youve been racking up the LOL votes on this thread, and not from me.

    i can tell from your “im rank4, but could get rank1 if i really wanted” post that you dont frequent rank1 on either side.

    realtalk

    Theres someone following my account around hitting every LOL, it doesn't matter what thread I post in I get a LOL comment, it's either Tsulan or Orion. I don't really care much, remember that time you bragged about all your points and comment count, thats the real LOL

    Or that time you couldn't read simple threads and started arguing with me about something someone else said, hilarious - you're such a joker Lowbei.

    Imagine being so content with arguing on the forums you can't even keep track of who or what you're arguing about.

    I've still never seen you at rank one, it's never happened.

    realtalk

  • @DeadByFlashlight said:
    The depip squad actually are killer mains, just fyi.

    Yea, I'm sure they never play survivor.

    My recent matches? Of course not, I am at green ranks at the moment.
    But during rank 1 I had several games where survivors knocked out just as fast as the depip squad.

    wow, so commenting on my rank is fine, but a green rank such as yourself is the bastion of all that is balanced and should certainly be telling us how this game is unbalanced.

    So it seems like you are agreeing that there is something broken about the game balance that this is even ?>possible. I didnt even except more, thank you.

    Not really, my stance is still the same, people are bad at this game, I always say I'm average (which I am) but I don't have a bad game and think I should go moan on the forums about how scary and bad the survivors are! I just carry on playing and getting better.

    And I understand that not everybody is a competitive person, thats just fine

    You're clearly not competitive as you intentionally derank so you can have it easy.

  • @The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    @SenzuDuck I have seen alot of buff/nerf threads so far because of various reasons but sometimes I don't get the reasoning. I had a match once as Hag where I'll admit I got destroyed by the survivors.. but instead of coming to the forums and complaining I accept the defeat and kept practicing. Now I hardly lose as the Hag. She and the Wraith are my mains. All because I chose practice over complaints. I don't think I've made any threads here complaining for nerfs only build ideas and asking about perks. And the Dream World rework thing which I'll admit I didn't think of the loading time difference when considering that. 

    Yea it's like when spirit came out, the first thread asking for a buff was made and hour and forty minutes after her release (baring in mind servers were down for a little while after).

    People complain so much when they don't get kills with a new killer, people say the nurse takes ages to master, so why could it not be the same for the spirit? I'm honestly sick of deranking plebs coming to the forum begging for certain things to be buffed or nerfed, it's honestly so bad.

    The creator of this thread stated the other day that he deranks intentionally, so he's playing at lower ranks, and still coming to the forums asking for certain things to be nerfed/changed to make it easier for him, good god.

    Just play the game and get better.

  • @Tsulan said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Nothing to see here. Just a normal day of @SenzuDuck fighting against the rest of the forum. Please move on.

    Probably because people that intentionally derank shouldn't be talking about balance when they intentionally unbalance the game so they can have it easy.

    You are right. Queuing with low ranks to face noob killers is so much better...
    Oh wait...

    Queuing with random people from a stream who have uncoordinated perks and no communication, yea dude, sounds real unfair.

    It's almost like I let anyone of any rank join me because I simply just want to play the game.

  • @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @DeadByFlashlight said:
    The irony is that I DID play at rank 1 for quite some time before I started to dernak because the game is so unbalanced there :wink:

    Try playing rank 1 for a full month, then we can have the conversation again

    Imagine if you knew what irony actually meant.

    I used to play at rank 1 constantly as well, and then I played other games because 2300 hours is a lot to sink into a game in just over a year.

    "Rank one is unbalanced" oh get lost, it has the exact same rules as every other rank. Just because you're bad at rank one doesn't mean it's unbalanced.

    Thats what I thought in the beginning too. Then I checked out twitch streamers who put thousands of hours into DBD because its their job and then you realize that in some games, even those guys simply dont even have a chance, right from the beginning.

    And then, in the "winnable" games because survivors arent playing optimal, one mistake can cost you the whole game. Compare this to the easy mode of SWF, one mistake? No problem, DS yolo :lol:

    The old "DS yolo" imagine being so bad at the game you make out like every survivor runs DS, yes it's an issue because it's a stupid perk but this goes back to killers have one or two bad games and acting as if every match before that was just as bad, get over it, game isn't impossible.

    DS was just an example, its not like its the only thing.....

    I invite you to challenge the depip squad (not sure if they take challenge anymore), maybe you will understand my point afterwards

    Oh god, this de-pip bs again, lmfao.

    A group of 4-man SWF 3000+ hour survivors who run the exact same 4 perks.

    Can we not pretend any of your recent matches are like this, it's simply untrue.
    If we look at it from the killers view it was probably one bad match out of a dozen good ones that day, sounds like pretty good odds to me.

  • @The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    @SenzuDuck the issue of people taking one side and wanting the other being very weak isn't even just a DBD issue. I remember playing Evolve as a Monster mostly and even there the Hunters were complaining about my playstyle and tactics. And saying I chose the "Easiest most op option" what I would do is very much a hit and run style of play while trying to sneak up on people.. seems the hunters saw that as an equivalent to Camping in this game.. 

    I just play the game any way I have too, if I have viewers that want to SWF, I don't ask their rank I just say join, it's like being friendly is a bad thing or something.

    then I play killer and take chat suggestions, I play with music on and read chat with alerts going off I really don't care what advantage or disadvantages I get from doing so I just want to play, and I certainly don't have to come to the forum and beg for buffs because I do poorly in a match.

  • @Lowbei said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Lowbei said:

    SenzuDuck said:

    @Lowbei said:
    
    DeadByFlashlight said:
    

    @Lowbei said: SenzuDuck said:

    @Lowbei said:    SenzuDuck said:
    

    @Lowbei said: SenzuDuck said:

    @DeadByFlashlight said:    @SenzuDuck ran out of arguments? :wink:        I mean, I have stuff to do today so can't respond immediately, but this doesn't take away from the fact that you derank to lower ranks, and then complain still about how hard it is.    I hate DCers and I hate derankers, I don't condone what Jendenise does so don't make it about her.    If she DCs enough she will be punished, but it also doesn't mean that you should DC/Derank because she does.    I'm not arguing anything It's just I'm tired of the most vocal killers on this game admitting to DCing/Deranking and then complaining still when they're Vsing players who have less hours, and yes survivors do it also, do I think they should stop, absolutely.
    

    you only play swf and ive never once seen you at rank1. i guess yall just never get there. deranking? Yawn More lies. I only ever stream the game, so the 15+ days I've had off of playing it this month has clearly shown in my rank. i said never, not “this month”

    i solo at rank1. you should try it sometime, for giggles :)        Wow, you solo at rank one? What a great achievement, it means absolutely nothing!        playing at rank1 certainly takes more skill than you have ever displayed.
    

    its hilarious when players who cant compete at rank1 claim that rank means nothing. Lets face it, everyone who remotely plays the game sometime regularly can reach rank 1. I reached rank 1 during my first month of climbing as survivor, am I proud of that? No, didnt feel like an accomplishment tbh and I even piped when I did horrible :lol: exactly. its not hard at all if you are decent at the game, which is why its so funny to me when people like senzu cant hit rank1 even with swf, but have the balls to say its meaningless.

    theres much different levels of competition at rank1 than rank20.
    
    
    
    There's absolutely no difference between rank 1 and rank 20 considering every one is an SWF monster queueing to play with low ranked killers such as myself.  Remember, every match is a 4man squad of high ranked players queued with low ranked survivors.
    
    
    
    lol you clearly have zero experience playing at rank1, and should refrain from embarrassing yourself further with such nonsense. also not every group is swf, so if thats your excuse for not being able to hit rank1, it sounds like a git gud issue.
    
    i play at rank1 on both sides and dont use items or offerings.
    

    try it sometime if you can get there. jk, we know you wont, no worries.

    Sorry, I've never seen you at rank one, that is a blatant lie, stop embarrassing yourself by lying about yourself and myself.

    I also clearly stated in my post that I'm a low ranked killer, clearly you have zero experience in reading a thread properly, of course i get rekt by noob swfs i'm a low rank remember.

    irony lol. ive been rank1 on both sides for dozens of seasons. never once seen you on either side.

    I simply don't believe you, I've never seen you at rank one.

  • @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @DeadByFlashlight said:
    The irony is that I DID play at rank 1 for quite some time before I started to dernak because the game is so unbalanced there :wink:

    Try playing rank 1 for a full month, then we can have the conversation again

    Imagine if you knew what irony actually meant.

    I used to play at rank 1 constantly as well, and then I played other games because 2300 hours is a lot to sink into a game in just over a year.

    "Rank one is unbalanced" oh get lost, it has the exact same rules as every other rank. Just because you're bad at rank one doesn't mean it's unbalanced.

    Thats what I thought in the beginning too. Then I checked out twitch streamers who put thousands of hours into DBD because its their job and then you realize that in some games, even those guys simply dont even have a chance, right from the beginning.

    And then, in the "winnable" games because survivors arent playing optimal, one mistake can cost you the whole game. Compare this to the easy mode of SWF, one mistake? No problem, DS yolo :lol:

    The old "DS yolo" imagine being so bad at the game you make out like every survivor runs DS, yes it's an issue because it's a stupid perk but this goes back to killers have one or two bad games and acting as if every match before that was just as bad, get over it, game isn't impossible.

  • @Lowbei said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @Lowbei said:

    DeadByFlashlight said:

    @Lowbei said:
    
    SenzuDuck said:
    

    @Lowbei said: SenzuDuck said:

    @Lowbei said:    SenzuDuck said:
    

    @DeadByFlashlight said: @SenzuDuck ran out of arguments? :wink: I mean, I have stuff to do today so can't respond immediately, but this doesn't take away from the fact that you derank to lower ranks, and then complain still about how hard it is. I hate DCers and I hate derankers, I don't condone what Jendenise does so don't make it about her. If she DCs enough she will be punished, but it also doesn't mean that you should DC/Derank because she does. I'm not arguing anything It's just I'm tired of the most vocal killers on this game admitting to DCing/Deranking and then complaining still when they're Vsing players who have less hours, and yes survivors do it also, do I think they should stop, absolutely.

    you only play swf and ive never once seen you at rank1. i guess yall just never get there. deranking?        Yawn    More lies.    I only ever stream the game, so the 15+ days I've had  off of playing it this month has clearly shown in my rank.        i said never, not “this month”
    

    i solo at rank1. you should try it sometime, for giggles :) Wow, you solo at rank one? What a great achievement, it means absolutely nothing! playing at rank1 certainly takes more skill than you have ever displayed.

    its hilarious when players who cant compete at rank1 claim that rank means nothing.
    
    
    
    Lets face it, everyone who remotely plays the game sometime regularly can reach rank 1.
    
    I reached rank 1 during my first month of climbing as survivor, am I proud of that? No, didnt feel like an accomplishment tbh and I even piped when I did horrible :lol:
    
    
    
    exactly. its not hard at all if you are decent at the game, which is why its so funny to me when people like senzu cant hit rank1 even with swf, but have the balls to say its meaningless.
    

    theres much different levels of competition at rank1 than rank20.

    There's absolutely no difference between rank 1 and rank 20 considering every one is an SWF monster queueing to play with low ranked killers such as myself. Remember, every match is a 4man squad of high ranked players queued with low ranked survivors.

    lol you clearly have zero experience playing at rank1, and should refrain from embarrassing yourself further with such nonsense. also not every group is swf, so if thats your excuse for not being able to hit rank1, it sounds like a git gud issue.

    i play at rank1 on both sides and dont use items or offerings.

    try it sometime if you can get there. jk, we know you wont, no worries.

    Sorry, I've never seen you at rank one, that is a blatant lie, stop embarrassing yourself by lying about yourself and myself.

    I also clearly stated in my post that I'm a low ranked killer, clearly you have zero experience in reading a thread properly, of course i get rekt by noob swfs i'm a low rank remember.

  • @DeadByFlashlight said:
    The irony is that I DID play at rank 1 for quite some time before I started to dernak because the game is so unbalanced there :wink:

    Try playing rank 1 for a full month, then we can have the conversation again

    Imagine if you knew what irony actually meant.

    I used to play at rank 1 constantly as well, and then I played other games because 2300 hours is a lot to sink into a game in just over a year.

    "Rank one is unbalanced" oh get lost, it has the exact same rules as every other rank. Just because you're bad at rank one doesn't mean it's unbalanced.

  • @The_Fallen_Utopia said:
    @SenzuDuck I can't even count how many perks are ruined by communication (because I don't remember all of them lol) But perks like Knock Out, Bloodwarden, NOED, most hex perks and Rancor to an extent are all potentially ruined by communication. It's difficult to balence the game around this though without reworking those perks. Except NOED.. even as a killer main I'll admit that perk is a bit unfair alot of the time. I stopped running it after getting Ruin. 

    I really do wish they'd change the end game perks, I've had the same issue before, but I try not to run bloodwarden because I'm not much of an end game guy, I either do well at the start or get completely obliterated.

    Had a conversation with someone yesterday who was arguing that NOED shouldn't even be counterable because survivors have been alive until the end of the game and it shouldn't matter if they die at that what, hilarious what some people come up with.

    Asymmetrical games will never be truly balanced, and with a community as argumentative as this one with so many different opinion it's hard to balance.

    Survivors & Killers that moan a lot will hopefully realise that if they just played a little more intuitively they'd do better, I've seen so many times where a killer will focus on a survivor and ignore every survivor they pass to get this one they've been chasing, and I've seen so many survivor moan end game about camping and tunneling while they're hanging around their mate on the hook.

    Both sides have their biased opinions and that's fine but too many people come here and moan, and want 3+ killers on every survivor even if it's new and unpracticed.

    So many survivors want this perk to do that that and that

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