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@Orion said:
@powerbats said:
@Orion said:
Indeed. Behaviour needs to follow Blizzard's way of balancing talents in Heroes of the Storm:
- If something is used a lot, find out why it's used a lot.
- If it's used a lot because the other options are crap, buff the other options.
- If it's used a lot because it's broken, nerf the main use it has so it's more in line with the other options.
Self Care falls under the second reason - it's used a lot because infinite, self-sustaining heals without any drawbacks make hits irrelevant. Therefore, the self-heal aspect of it must be nerfed.
Heroes of The storm is a bas comparison since you've got 2 teams of 5 on 5 with vastly different abilities that can not only damage each other. They also have AOE effects and can damage terrain.
Buffing other options seems to be a no go with quite a few killer mains on here if both past and current history is any indication.
Just look at the outcry when Calm Spirit got buffed or whenever anyone talks about changing No Mither or any other survivor perks that not meta.
You get the typical catcalls and whines about all you want is something more op, survivors are already broken/op etc etc etc.
I've suggested changes to other perks to break them into being viable and I get the above almost always. However if I suggest a buff to killer perks it's a whole new ballgame, then if the buff isn't op enough i'm just trolling or not being serious.
I think the principle of buffs/nerfs they use for HotS applies regardless of the game. It's simply logical.
Except you can't kill the killer, so survivors have to be strong enough to not get nuked in a second and killers have to strong enough and intimidating enough when played with enough skill to kill 2/3 most of the time.
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@Boss said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Boss said:
The new map sometimes has dead corners for Killers: No hook in sight.Yea, hook spawns need looking into, again.
They either spawn so close to each other two survivors could chat on the hook together, or they spawn so far apart or on one side of the map a killer doesn't have a chance to hook if there's one block/wall lock on the way.
Having a hook against the Killer Shack with the Basement there also looks very silly.
Agreed - basement is supposed to be a risk for both killer and survivor, as a killer you can chance the basement and if you think you can't make it you can just plop them on the side of the shack,
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@Boss said:
The new map sometimes has dead corners for Killers: No hook in sight.Yea, hook spawns need looking into, again.
They either spawn so close to each other two survivors could chat on the hook together, or they spawn so far apart or on one side of the map a killer doesn't have a chance to hook if there's one block/wall lock on the way.
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And you can see why I ask for quotes, Giche LITERALLY got the wrong person and starts trying to make me look bad 😂ZombieGenesis said:@powerbats said:
The 3 of you just proved my point I made earlier that you won't call out the bs some killer mains spew then turn around and say it's survivor sided. You can say what you want about Senz but he has a point about what he said.Whatever points he may have gets drowned out by his juvenile attitude. Here's a mockup of pretty much any SenzuDuck post.
(Killer Says Something)
SD: LULZ 4K Entitlement! (Pointless rant about things killer never mentioned)(Killer Comments Back, possibly paraphrasing something SD insinuated or outright said)
SD: LULZ Not what I said! Quote where I said those EXACT WORDS! LULZ words in my mouth hur!And then he'll finish up with some trite and juvenile poke that only he finds funny.
Again, whatever points he may make are bookended by obnoxious troll behavior that seriously needs to be ignored. At this point, those of us who respond to him or talk about him are just as much at fault as he is for allowing him to derail a thread, which I'm assuming is his entire point to begin with. Which is ridiculous of course because the Devs have not once looked at a thread where a killer said something and said to themselves, "Whoa, SD didn't mention 4k entitlement...the killer must have a point!"
Regardless, I am done talking to or about SD. It's what he wants, attention, and it's the one thing that we (as a forum) sincerely need to deny him.
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I honestly can’t belive you guys - it’s like you don’t read anything past the last two comments.
all I stated was that killer abilities need downsides, and the burger dude starts talking about self care?
You guys call me a troll but when I simply stated it can’t be all rainbows and pony’s for the abilities you start talking about stupid stuff that wasn’t even relevant to the conversation?
It’s the equivalent of you guys asking for a self care nerf and I come In “yea but the nurses abilty tho omg op”. (FWIW I love the nurse)
Smh, I’m the troll, clearly.
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@Orion said:
@ZombieGenesis said:
@Giche said:
(snip)Pretty much everything you said. I know the mods here are anti-killer and allow survivor apologists to run roughshod but I sincerely don't understand how this guy hasn't been banned. He'll literally come onto a thread where a killer player suggests something and make it unreadable, which I'm sure is his point. If he's not attacking points that weren't made in the post anywhere he's whining about people "putting words" in his mouth or falling back on his old pointless favorite "Well you just want to 4K." And that's not including all of the sophomoric passive aggressive garbage he throws out into threads.
If you want to provide an opposing view point, great, but that's not what this guy wants. He wants any pro-killer ideas buried beneath a landfill of unreadable and pointless garbage. Which, sadly, he very much succeeds at doing.
That's why I ignore him. I recommend you do the same.
Literally commented on a thread earlier of our friend RSB screaming for hatch to be removed because he wants a 4K, how is that not 4K entitlement, lmfao.
Aren't you that rank 17 who said they haven't played the game properly in over a year, yet you clearly know so much about balance. LOL
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@Giche said:
@SenzuDuck said:
Yea, literally this. You hop into a conversation, read the last few comments, start talking absolute drool towards me that makes literally no sense what so ever.
One day you'll get better, I promise, just practice more.
What conversation ?
You're just trolling and lobbying for survivors, as usual.
Trying to spread as much lie and non-senses as possible, for the "lol" i guess ?
That's basically all what you do.
You also admitted being drunk a lot of time while posting in another thread (for the "lol" again i guess).
Surely one of the reasons why you quite like getting "Killer main exposed on the forum
"Not moronic at all, no ... /s
What the actual ######### are you on about? I've actually never been drunk at all when posting on the forums, you're actually talking so much crap right now. I would LOVE it if you quoted the comment I made about me being drunk because it absolutely didn't happen.
Also, quote one thing in this thread where I am "Survivor" sided, because it hasn't happened at all.
I also absolutely don't lie about anything either, I guarantee you can't find one comment on this entire website of me "lying". Opinions aren't lies and you'll one day figure that one out, sweetheart.
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@Giche said:
@SenzuDuck said:
Are you sure you're not the one that is drunk? Well done for not addressing anything posted and just continuing a discussion that ended a few hours ago, amazing - another killer providing absolutely nothing but complaining about their lack of skill and blaming it on mechanics.
Yeah, basically :
Predictable.
Yea, literally this. You hop into a conversation, read the last few comments, start talking absolute drool towards me that makes literally no sense what so ever.
One day you'll get better, I promise, just practice more.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@Lowbei said:
wow this rank20 burgers guy is embarrassing himself everywhere lately. is he the new epicfailtryhard? welcome to dbd!it's okay, maybe some time you will get more than 3 viewers if you ever get better at this crappy game.
I like how you comment on peoples views yet have probably never streamed in your entire life, and the reason you don't is because no one wants to watch someone who constantly whines about their side being hard done by and hard to play.
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@Giche said:
@SenzuDuck said:
AHAHAH @powerbats have you heard this guy? He claims hes so good but here's a list of things he does.
- DC's maps he's not good at
- Demands for more insta downs
- Uses third party software to brighten up reds to chase easier
AHAHAHA this guy is literally the worst "best" player I've ever seen in my life what a joke ahahahahahahahaha.
and yes, true does call all this stuff out but still does very well in matches, so it's almost like you can still cope with this "incredibly strong over powered survivor meta".
Nice dodge, schoolyard level.
And this pathetic attempt of socialy shame someone else when you don't have anymore argument.
You're the definition of toxicity.
Also maybe stop posting while drunk, you'll make us a favor.
INB4:
"No u !
Huuur duuur"
Are you sure you're not the one that is drunk? Well done for not addressing anything posted and just continuing a discussion that ended a few hours ago, amazing - another killer providing absolutely nothing but complaining about their lack of skill and blaming it on mechanics.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@Visionmaker said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@Visionmaker said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@HP150 said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@TheDarkLycan said:
Love how they buffed her cooldown even though they said they wouldn'tBecause they have no clue what they're doing. Her power would still be weak compared to billy or even nurse, even if she had no cooldown.
That's honestly what they need to do. Get rid of the cooldown and let her charge her power while moving. Then lower her to Nurse speed. Make her basically HAVE to use her power to get a hit, like a different flavor of Nurse.
Both would be high skillcap / low skill floor Killers. Except she can be juked in different ways (standing still, crouching, doubling back, etc) as opposed to Nurse and still suffers from the weakness of having to obey the laws of terrain / pallets / windows. Upside would be that she doesn't suffer from fatigue and obviously she has the whole invisibility thing going for her until the survivors notice her jet engine sounds.
She would be unplayable then, getting a hit on survivors that know how to work around her ability is already getting unlikely
Killer abilities have to have downsides, it can't all be upsides to using abilities, obviously they have counters.
So where's the downside to selfcare? Oh wait, only killers need to have downsides in a game that is pitted against them. Gotcha
Lmfao. "Killlers need to be balanced" "BUT MUH SELF CARE"
As if there was a downside to any other perk. BBQC has a downside? Enduring has a downside? Nurse's Calling has a downside?
You're ridiculous.
BBQ has a downside, just hide, nurses has a downside just don't heal in TR, Enduring saves you like what...1 sec on a pallet? softcounters a broken perk like DS?
And don't give me the spirit fury+enduring combo BS, that's ONLY a free hit if there isn't another window/pallet nearby, you still gain about 20 metres of distance.
Self-care doesn't help in chases or completing gens
checkmate
All 4 members of the survivor team damaged? nah, doesn't matter they will just heal up with selfcare in btw less time than it takes them to heal each other. Thanatophobia is complete garbage due to Selfcare.
But survivors need selfcare ontop of instaheal medkits, DS and Adrenaline, which effectively means a killer has to hit you 5 times before he can hook you if you play absolutely perfect, no issues there nope.
Add on top of that list the sheer amount of pallets and the 0 effort it takes to find them unless they've been used up already by somebody else and you can easily run around a killer for 2+ mins
If you damage all 4 team mates and loose all of them at the same time you should quit the game imo.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@Visionmaker said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@HP150 said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@TheDarkLycan said:
Love how they buffed her cooldown even though they said they wouldn'tBecause they have no clue what they're doing. Her power would still be weak compared to billy or even nurse, even if she had no cooldown.
That's honestly what they need to do. Get rid of the cooldown and let her charge her power while moving. Then lower her to Nurse speed. Make her basically HAVE to use her power to get a hit, like a different flavor of Nurse.
Both would be high skillcap / low skill floor Killers. Except she can be juked in different ways (standing still, crouching, doubling back, etc) as opposed to Nurse and still suffers from the weakness of having to obey the laws of terrain / pallets / windows. Upside would be that she doesn't suffer from fatigue and obviously she has the whole invisibility thing going for her until the survivors notice her jet engine sounds.
She would be unplayable then, getting a hit on survivors that know how to work around her ability is already getting unlikely
Killer abilities have to have downsides, it can't all be upsides to using abilities, obviously they have counters.
So where's the downside to selfcare? Oh wait, only killers need to have downsides in a game that is pitted against them. Gotcha
Lmfao. "Killlers need to be balanced" "BUT MUH SELF CARE"
As if there was a downside to any other perk. BBQC has a downside? Enduring has a downside? Nurse's Calling has a downside?
You're ridiculous.
BBQ has a downside, just hide, nurses has a downside just don't heal in TR, Enduring saves you like what...1 sec on a pallet? softcounters a broken perk like DS?
BBQ Counter - "Just Hide".
You should write a comedy.
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@Visionmaker said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@HP150 said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@TheDarkLycan said:
Love how they buffed her cooldown even though they said they wouldn'tBecause they have no clue what they're doing. Her power would still be weak compared to billy or even nurse, even if she had no cooldown.
That's honestly what they need to do. Get rid of the cooldown and let her charge her power while moving. Then lower her to Nurse speed. Make her basically HAVE to use her power to get a hit, like a different flavor of Nurse.
Both would be high skillcap / low skill floor Killers. Except she can be juked in different ways (standing still, crouching, doubling back, etc) as opposed to Nurse and still suffers from the weakness of having to obey the laws of terrain / pallets / windows. Upside would be that she doesn't suffer from fatigue and obviously she has the whole invisibility thing going for her until the survivors notice her jet engine sounds.
She would be unplayable then, getting a hit on survivors that know how to work around her ability is already getting unlikely
Killer abilities have to have downsides, it can't all be upsides to using abilities, obviously they have counters.
So where's the downside to selfcare? Oh wait, only killers need to have downsides in a game that is pitted against them. Gotcha
Lmfao. "Killlers need to be balanced" "BUT MUH SELF CARE"
as if there was a downside to any other perk. You're ridiculous.
I know, it's almost like spending 12 seconds in a corner not progressing the game is actually a survivor buff or something, soon to be 16 seconds too which I of course don't mind. Anything to stop these cry babies posting on the forum.
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@powerbats said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@MhhBurgers said:
nobody cares about your little circlejerk, not powerbats not your 10 viewers.Survivors are overpowered which is just a fact stated by most good killer mains, what you say doesn't matter, ppl like Truetalent, Hybridpanda and Marth88 will all agree on this.
Third party software, rofl. It's called SETTINGS, maybe you should try them out.
HybridPandas actually a good friend of mine, I'll ask him next time I chat with him.
Also Marth88 is the same guy that got a 100+ win streak in death garden and called it balanced.
He also got a 100+ winstreak with his depip squad yet you don't call that unbalanced.
Oh and like any guy who puts thousands of hours into this game runs the killer around for at least 2 minutes before going down, do you call that balanced?
Yes because going up against baby killers in in some matches full P3 Claudette outfits with each person having over 3k hours or so played is a balanced test.
Get out of here with your logic, good survivors are just lucky and not at all better than the killers they play, the killers are just weak.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@MhhBurgers said:
nobody cares about your little circlejerk, not powerbats not your 10 viewers.Survivors are overpowered which is just a fact stated by most good killer mains, what you say doesn't matter, ppl like Truetalent, Hybridpanda and Marth88 will all agree on this.
Third party software, rofl. It's called SETTINGS, maybe you should try them out.
HybridPandas actually a good friend of mine, I'll ask him next time I chat with him.
Also Marth88 is the same guy that got a 100+ win streak in death garden and called it balanced.
He also got a 100+ winstreak with his depip squad yet you don't call that unbalanced.
Oh and like any guy who puts thousands of hours into this game runs the killer around for at least 2 minutes before going down, do you call that balanced?
Here's my stance on the depip squad - it wasn't a 100 win streak at all, he played matches constantly inbetween, solo, swf & killer and he did well, he did poorly he did averagely. From the killers point of view, it was one bad match out of dozens, when he was running perks, they all ran the exact same 4 perks, not a single team does this, I've never come across a squad all using the same perks.
and yes, if a killer is bad they're easy to loop, I've been absolutely destroyed by good killers because that's how the game goes. You can buff killers all you want and they'll never be good enough, killers could 3K every match they've ever played and you'd still want them to be stronger, we're back to the whole "i lost this match because I didn't 4K". That's all it boils down too, killers think killers are weak because they don't 4K every match.
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@MhhBurgers said:
nobody cares about your little circlejerk, not powerbats not your 10 viewers.Survivors are overpowered which is just a fact stated by most good killer mains, what you say doesn't matter, ppl like Truetalent, Hybridpanda and Marth88 will all agree on this.
Third party software, rofl. It's called SETTINGS, maybe you should try them out.
HybridPandas actually a good friend of mine, I'll ask him next time I chat with him.
Also Marth88 is the same guy that got a 100+ win streak in death garden and called it balanced.
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@MhhBurgers said:
nobody cares about your little circlejerk, not powerbats not your 10 viewersI average 23 viewers which isn't bad I reckon, making more friends and having more laughs playing this game than you ever will.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@powerbats said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@powerbats said:
@MhhBurgers said:
So where's the downside to selfcare? Oh wait, only killers need to have downsides in a game that is pitted against them. Gotcha
Oh not this whine fest rant excuse again there's several counters that killers arealdy do.
Tunneling
Camping
Nurses Calling
Thanatobia
Sloppy Butcher
Stridor
Bloodhound
Oh and last but not least killers that pay attention to what's going on around them so they can get those survivors trying to use said Self Care.
ROFL calling bloodhound stridor and thana counters to selfcare. Also nurses calling only works against survivors who heal inside the terror radius, what's next? Coulrophobia?
They all help you track down said injured survivor so they can't use SC or is it only smart killers that don't rage quit maps they don't like that know this?
Bloodhound doesn't help you track down injured survivors, same goes for NC (unless the surv is stupid and heals in your terror radius) and sloppy butcher, they only help you track mid chase in which case I ask you why the [BAD WORD] you don't use geforce experience instead to highlight blood anyways
When I feel like it I turn the game so bright that there's no way to lose survivors in the first place.
AHAHAH @powerbats have you heard this guy? He claims hes so good but here's a list of things he does.
- DC's maps he's not good at
- Demands for more insta downs
- Uses third party software to brighten up reds to chase easier
AHAHAHA this guy is literally the worst "best" player I've ever seen in my life what a joke ahahahahahahahaha.
and yes, true does call all this stuff out but still does very well in matches, so it's almost like you can still cope with this "incredibly strong over powered survivor meta".
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@MhhBurgers said:
ask the toxic "killers are fine" ppl who think it's fair that the game has literal safespaces built into them roflYou're the definition of toxic, you dc from maps you're bad at because it'll hurt your worthless rank when you get destroyed, LOL.
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@MhhBurgers said:
LoL at easily 4k'ing an SWF lowrank survivor team with ppl that literally run into your arms, most of these guys play for fun, unhook each other because they're friends, go play against tryhards with the spirit and see how well you do.And don't give me the "yeah well, 4 purple items with 4times DS happens but it's not often" BS, the fact that this can happen at all is already a failure on the dev's part. If you're like me and have a much to big ego to derank then ur stuck at R1 in about 8 hours of playtime which you btw easily top. Yeah being R1 doesn't mean much but if it's almost end of the month and ur still gimping around R5+ without depipping on purpose then that means u don't do as well as ur claiming.
Or, like I've said a million times - I simply don't play this game as much anymore. I only play this game on stream, so if I'm not streaming I'm not playing. I took a week off streaming between this months rank reset and went to london over double XP weekend.
I played 4 killer games at the start of that stream and 4K'd all 3 of them, except for one of them because a survivor DCd.
Killer isn't hard, especially for someone like me who takes week long breaks and time that isn't spent streaming I avoid the game altogether.
It's almost like... I'm not rank one because I don't play the game much anymore... you now... kind of like how the ranking system works - time played = rank, therefore bragging about your rank one means nothing, just means you don't play much else.
as for your statement on "4 man blah blah blah" yea, and what? I bet you dodge 4 man lobbies and don't even play them so your opinion means nothing, you already DC from maps you dont like, and are begging for more insta downs, you're one of the killers that thinks you're better than you actually are.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@powerbats said:
@MhhBurgers said:
So where's the downside to selfcare? Oh wait, only killers need to have downsides in a game that is pitted against them. Gotcha
Oh not this whine fest rant excuse again there's several counters that killers arealdy do.
Tunneling
Camping
Nurses Calling
Thanatobia
Sloppy Butcher
Stridor
Bloodhound
Oh and last but not least killers that pay attention to what's going on around them so they can get those survivors trying to use said Self Care.
Imagine chasing an injured person and downing them so they can't self care, they complain about self care and not enough survivors juking, until they get juked by a selfcaring survivor and then complain about self care instead.
"just break the chase if you can't catch somebody, apply pressure to more than 1 target"
"also hardcore follow the guy you injured"
~rank5+ pleb.
I get to r1 without even trying, heck I can't even depip on purpose and here comes pro survivor main telling me how to play ROFL. Heck at your rank I played freddy without any perks except for BBQ and still [BAD WORD] 4k'd, does that mean the game is fine? heck no, they still need to remove the loop safespaces then we could talk. There's no point in removing tons of pallets other than frustrating lowrank survivors through that when you have loops that take 1+ min of a killers time to even get 1 hit.
I watched your vid, you do realize that if you ran at 90% speed that you would'Ve gotten dunked on HARD in your game right? a game where survs didnt manage to find the totem
Dunked on hard? I downed like 1 or 2 people with devour and they still had 3 gens left, they'd have still done poorly against me.
Also, what the hell is "If you ran at 90% speed"? IF i was blind i'd run into walls, what points are you trying to make with that.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@powerbats said:
@MhhBurgers said:
So where's the downside to selfcare? Oh wait, only killers need to have downsides in a game that is pitted against them. Gotcha
Oh not this whine fest rant excuse again there's several counters that killers arealdy do.
Tunneling
Camping
Nurses Calling
Thanatobia
Sloppy Butcher
Stridor
Bloodhound
Oh and last but not least killers that pay attention to what's going on around them so they can get those survivors trying to use said Self Care.
Imagine chasing an injured person and downing them so they can't self care, they complain about self care and not enough survivors juking, until they get juked by a selfcaring survivor and then complain about self care instead.
"just break the chase if you can't catch somebody, apply pressure to more than 1 target"
"also hardcore follow the guy you injured"
~rank5+ pleb.
I get to r1 without even trying, heck I can't even depip on purpose and here comes pro survivor main telling me how to play ROFL
Well, this is where your skill as a killer should come in (i'm not sure if you actually have any). You're supposed to decide if the injured person is worth continuing to pressure or you go after a new target, after all every survivor runs self care so they'll heal instead of doing gens and then no time is lost if you can make a quick hit.
and again, rank is nothing, it means literally nothing where time played = rank one. Also, they're swf, you know that unbeatable meta that killer mains talk about. I'm higher ranked killer than I am survivor right now so clearly a biased survivor main.
you're also the same excellent killer that DCs from maps they don't do well on, and wants more insta downs so his games go quicker, for someone who's really good at this game you sure do avoid things that make you look bad or want more things to make you seem better.
ALSO, you can't play spirit, but a pleb rank 5 like myself easily 4Ks an swf team, says more about yourself than me, really.
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@powerbats said:
@MhhBurgers said:
So where's the downside to selfcare? Oh wait, only killers need to have downsides in a game that is pitted against them. Gotcha
Oh not this whine fest rant excuse again there's several counters that killers arealdy do.
Tunneling
Camping
Nurses Calling
Thanatobia
Sloppy Butcher
Stridor
Bloodhound
Oh and last but not least killers that pay attention to what's going on around them so they can get those survivors trying to use said Self Care.
Imagine chasing an injured person and downing them so they can't self care, they complain about self care and not enough survivors juking, until they get juked by a selfcaring survivor and then complain about self care instead.
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@MhhBurgers said:
So tell me who the [BAD WORD] would be able to play her if you cannot see survivors, you cannot track them (and don't tell me you are able to land a hit on them with how bad even with predator scratchmarks are unless they run into stuff like windows/pallets) and on top of that you'Re also slower than them ROFL. When I think the devs have bad Ideas I listen to crap like this.Go and watch some twitch streams kiddo, you'll see plenty of people using her.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/315353140?t=58m17s
Heres a video of me 4King against a rank three, two rank 5s and a rank 9.
2 Dstrikes & an insta heal btw, probably SWF but who cares.
and yes, im not a rank 1 killer (because i play more games now) but hey, swf is unbeatable, right? -
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@SenzuDuck said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@HP150 said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@TheDarkLycan said:
Love how they buffed her cooldown even though they said they wouldn'tBecause they have no clue what they're doing. Her power would still be weak compared to billy or even nurse, even if she had no cooldown.
That's honestly what they need to do. Get rid of the cooldown and let her charge her power while moving. Then lower her to Nurse speed. Make her basically HAVE to use her power to get a hit, like a different flavor of Nurse.
Both would be high skillcap / low skill floor Killers. Except she can be juked in different ways (standing still, crouching, doubling back, etc) as opposed to Nurse and still suffers from the weakness of having to obey the laws of terrain / pallets / windows. Upside would be that she doesn't suffer from fatigue and obviously she has the whole invisibility thing going for her until the survivors notice her jet engine sounds.
She would be unplayable then, getting a hit on survivors that know how to work around her ability is already getting unlikely
Killer abilities have to have downsides, it can't all be upsides to using abilities, obviously they have counters.
So where's the downside to selfcare? Oh wait, only killers need to have downsides in a game that is pitted against them. Gotcha
Well, that's a completely separate discussion, but I do often see killers bring in unrelated things (that I've never given an opinion on) and try to use that against me.
I really don't care if they nerf self care - they've already stated they'll make it longer, which again, I don't really mind, it'll help me when I play killer.
But again, this is a conversation about KILLER ABILITIES not selfcare, but yes - lets continue to derail the conversation by making it about survivor perks instead of killer abilities.
Just because I disagree with you and think killers needs disadvantages to using their abilities does not mean i wouldn't agree with you that self care needs a nerf. But it's futile because you seem to think I'll disagree with everything you say because you're childish.
Enjoy DCing from your next map because you're bad, btw.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@HP150 said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@TheDarkLycan said:
Love how they buffed her cooldown even though they said they wouldn'tBecause they have no clue what they're doing. Her power would still be weak compared to billy or even nurse, even if she had no cooldown.
That's honestly what they need to do. Get rid of the cooldown and let her charge her power while moving. Then lower her to Nurse speed. Make her basically HAVE to use her power to get a hit, like a different flavor of Nurse.
Both would be high skillcap / low skill floor Killers. Except she can be juked in different ways (standing still, crouching, doubling back, etc) as opposed to Nurse and still suffers from the weakness of having to obey the laws of terrain / pallets / windows. Upside would be that she doesn't suffer from fatigue and obviously she has the whole invisibility thing going for her until the survivors notice her jet engine sounds.
She would be unplayable then, getting a hit on survivors that know how to work around her ability is already getting unlikely
Killer abilities have to have downsides, it can't all be upsides to using abilities, obviously they have counters.
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I think everyone should play the card they have been dealt.
If you get a face camping billy, you play.
If you get a survivor DC, you play.
If you get a map you don't like, you play.You get the gist.
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Needs more blood, I think you should aim for prestige 3 at least 10/10
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I love it when killers DC because of a certain map, and then make threads asking other killers what maps they DC on because that's a thing.
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Thanks for letting us know!
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Each prestige level should add an additional perk on the blood web past 25.
At 25 it's usually 2 perks.
P1 + 25 = 3 Perks With the chance of getting one
P2 + 25 = 4 Perks With the chance of getting two
P3 + 25 = 5 Perks With the chance of getting three
This also decreases the grind slightly as you can get more perks + the entity will take up one additional item off the web when it takes the perks off.Prestige needs more benefits currently as people usually just run their bought clothing now.
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I love it when nurses hold a blink really hard towards you and you sprint directly at them and they sling themselves to the other side of the map.
Alternatively, as the spirit I love wooshing around and accidentally knocking into a survivor that you can't see and then you know right then to come out of wooshing and slice, super fun times.
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@RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@Peanits @MandyTalk @Gay Myers (Luzi)I'm all for free speech but this thread is an absolute mess, can someone just shut it down so we can go back to having civilised conversations? Thanks!

And I respect it too.
This thread must hurt you.
Ahhh yes, because I'm the one that's resorted to insulting everyone because they have a different opinion.
You're clearly hurt, log out, go play some matches, have a coffee, chill out and come back, simples. -
@Peanits @MandyTalk @Gay Myers (Luzi)
I'm all for free speech but this thread is an absolute mess, can someone just shut it down so we can go back to having civilised conversations? Thanks!

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I'm howling at his comments, he's so upset that this post proves he thinks he's entitled to a 4K and now that he's realised it himself he's absolutely gone off the deep-end.
There's no commentary to be had with someone like this, civil discussion is unfortunately out the window.
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@RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said:
Hey look, there's that four kill entitlement we all love to see, and you deny feeling entitled too... until you make a post like this.Hey look, there's that free escape entitlement we all love to see, and you deny feeling entitled too... until you make post like this.
See? I can do that too. Shoo, biased survboy.
Except I never said I had an issue with removing the hatch, so what you've just said means absolutely nothing.
You don't have an issue, because hatch is going nowhere. Remember how you, and people like you, cried when the hatch was in PTB? Yeah, thanks to your kind we have this imbalanced ######### right now.
You could put more words into my mouth if you'd like... But again - show me proof of me having an issue with the hatch instead of this "but all survivors like hatch" and i'll agree with you.
I've stated many times that you think you're entitled to a 4K and up until now I couldn't really quote you wanting that or being really entitled but this post really shows you THINK you have to 4K to "win". Which is the real issue with killers, they THINK they have to 4K to be considered good and count anything less as a loss. THIS is the issue, YOU shouldn't 4K every match, and NO killer should be capable of 4King every match.
But yes, lets pretend i'm the one that has an issue with the hatch, they really could remove it for all I care, but the next day there WILL be posts of killers complaining that the last survivor is taking the game hostage.
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@fcc2014 said:
Can't believe this stupid thread is still open.Anything to make the killers game easy. they could remove everything and still complain survivors could sprint.
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@Captain_Spaulding said:
@SenzuDuckThat’s ok.
Im absolutely not a killer main, but I’ve come to realise half the problems that people face on this forum are simply them lacking the skill to compete. I’ve had absolute trains ran on me by rank one Freddies & Trappers. But nope, instead of people practising with them they’d rather wait and wait until they buffed into oblivion.Heres my issue. Killers complain rank one is hard, they also complain that every survivor is in rank one because it’s so easy to get there.
Which is it, every pleb survivor is rank one, or rank one is hard?
Im currently rank 5 killer and rank 6 survivor. I used to get to rank one every season but have since started playing other games as DBD isn’t doing for me as much after 2300 hours.
But yes - just a survivor main with a different opinion.
honestly I avoid red ranks. It seems that the higher the rank the more swf. I absolutely detest swf. I'm a higher rank survivor than I am a killer and even still if I even think people are swf in the lobby I back out. I don't think it's a fair "tool" in any way. Do I think rank one is hard? No. Do I think getting to rank one is hard? Not at all. You just have to avoid all the swf and wade through the crappy lobbies and you'll eventually get there.
I've never once a dodged a lobby, I feel if you play against the "hardest" play style you'll become a better killer so I just go for it.
Like I said, I genuinely feel a lot of people think they're better than they are so when they do poorly they blame mechanics or something like SWF. I also see a lot of killers (not all) complaining about only 2/3 killers, that isn't bad and I think that's where A LOT of other killers fall short, they feel if they don't 4K they don't "win" so they want every killer to 4K every match when they play it
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@RSB said:
@SenzuDuck said:
Hey look, there's that four kill entitlement we all love to see, and you deny feeling entitled too... until you make a post like this.Hey look, there's that free escape entitlement we all love to see, and you deny feeling entitled too... until you make post like this.
See? I can do that too. Shoo, biased survboy.
Except I never said I had an issue with removing the hatch, so what you've just said means absolutely nothing.
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@Dr_doom_j2 said:
SenzuDuck said:@Dr_doom_j2 said:
lyric said:
Peasant said: How about, instead of adding "Terror Shock" specifically we just enable grabs regardless of whether or not survivors are injured? You see, with "Terror Shock" killers could just lunge to get one hit downs which when coupled with peer to peer lag is just awful. Meanwhile letting killers punish people who get too close is fine with me as a grab requires timing and finesse. I hope you can see my perspective. By the way, Freddy, if you're so hungry for instant-downs might I suggest No One Escapes Death, Make Your Choice, or Devour Hope? You can already grab off of hooks, gens, windows and pallets though, are you saying just straight up snatch them up ? If so then that’s a terrible idea, not trying to knock on you or anything, but what would be the point of even having a hit button if when you got close enough you could grab everytime? That’s my only argument to that You can't grab an uninjured survivor from windows and pallets though. I agree with him, it should universally be implemented that way. This could be the buff Leatherface needs, since he can drop his chainsaw instantly @Dr_doom_j2 said:
lyric said:
Peasant said: How about, instead of adding "Terror Shock" specifically we just enable grabs regardless of whether or not survivors are injured? You see, with "Terror Shock" killers could just lunge to get one hit downs which when coupled with peer to peer lag is just awful. Meanwhile letting killers punish people who get too close is fine with me as a grab requires timing and finesse. I hope you can see my perspective. By the way, Freddy, if you're so hungry for instant-downs might I suggest No One Escapes Death, Make Your Choice, or Devour Hope? You can already grab off of hooks, gens, windows and pallets though, are you saying just straight up snatch them up ? If so then that’s a terrible idea, not trying to knock on you or anything, but what would be the point of even having a hit button if when you got close enough you could grab everytime? That’s my only argument to that
You can't grab an uninjured survivor from windows and pallets though. I agree with him, it should universally be implemented that way. This could be the buff Leatherface needs, since he can drop his chainsaw instantly
Yes, lets make windows and pallets useless because you can just be instantly grabbed off them, sounds amazing, LOL.
I really miss the times whe you presented yourself as unbiased on these forums. What happened to the more sensibke Senzu, was that a relative borrowing your acct. or something?
Yes - I'm totally unbiased because I think survivors shouldn't be punished for using the two things they're given to escape a killer, windows and pallets. Lets just make it so killers can get instant hooks because a survivor climbs through or over something.
It'll just be the same, they run around the object, you get an M1 and then you'll just complain anyway because you still only got to hit them once and don't get your free insta hook.
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Hey look, there's that four kill entitlement we all love to see, and you deny feeling entitled too... until you make a post like this.
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These threads always make me laugh. > @MhhBurgers said:
Btw I can't take anyone seriously who tells me to just watch youtube/the big streamers who also have the same problems as me: the big safespace loops, they will usually just ignore survivors doing those.
It's almost as if ignoring someone that is good at looping and going after someone else who isn't in a position to loop is a decent tactic to avoid wasting time, lol.
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@MhhBurgers said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@MhhBurgers said:
@Kilmeran said:
@SenzuDuck said: Lol, rank one is easy to get to on both sides. I don't get why people think it's a measure of anything. Literally play the game for more than 20 hours on each side and you're guaranteed rank one.
I'm new here, and I'm hearing that a lot at the forums, Steam, and Reddit.
And it's making me reconsider the game. I stopped doing any kind of Ranked stuff about a year ago. It's why I moved to only playing Quick Play in Overwatch, HoTS, and Paladins. I really don't want to climb high up the ladder and deal with all the bullshit and toxicity. I just want to play a hide-and-seek horror game and have fun. But Behavior was asinine and didn't include a casual mode that also rewarded bloodpoints.
So, I hope that I can just play casually (I really don't care about grinding Meta-Perks and that stuff), and just hover somewhere around mid or so at some point. Otherwise, I'm going to have two choices: One, activiely de-pip, which I am loathe to do, or just stop playing DBD.
Actively depipping, I wish I could do that but I'm so good that even when I don't tryhard with ######### like the spirit I often at least singlepip or blackpip.
You're so good you DC from maps you don't like and want insta downs added to the game. LOL
I had a winrate of 81% on twitch on highlevel play in League, I still demanded buffs for him because frankly he still needed them.
I never had more than 2 ppl escape on the spirit even after release and I still want her to be buffed because she still doesn't feel powerful to me (no I didnt play her on the PBT so I have no practice on her)
I 4k pretty often on freddy, yet I still want him buffed because you know, anybody who knows the game would ask for it.
Yawn
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@MhhBurgers said:
@Kilmeran said:
@SenzuDuck said: Lol, rank one is easy to get to on both sides. I don't get why people think it's a measure of anything. Literally play the game for more than 20 hours on each side and you're guaranteed rank one.
I'm new here, and I'm hearing that a lot at the forums, Steam, and Reddit.
And it's making me reconsider the game. I stopped doing any kind of Ranked stuff about a year ago. It's why I moved to only playing Quick Play in Overwatch, HoTS, and Paladins. I really don't want to climb high up the ladder and deal with all the bullshit and toxicity. I just want to play a hide-and-seek horror game and have fun. But Behavior was asinine and didn't include a casual mode that also rewarded bloodpoints.
So, I hope that I can just play casually (I really don't care about grinding Meta-Perks and that stuff), and just hover somewhere around mid or so at some point. Otherwise, I'm going to have two choices: One, activiely de-pip, which I am loathe to do, or just stop playing DBD.
Actively depipping, I wish I could do that but I'm so good that even when I don't tryhard with ######### like the spirit I often at least singlepip or blackpip.
You're so good you DC from maps you don't like and want insta downs added to the game. LOL
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@Lowbei said:
SenzuDuck said:@Lowbei said:
SenzuDuck said:
@Lowbei said: SenzuDuck said:
@Lowbei said: SenzuDuck said:
Yea, they never do any changes for killers.
lol months later and this same swf only rando is still whining about killers being op on the forum. Yawn Have never once said killers are OP. Nice to see you still lie to try and perpetuate the nonsense you spread. Can't wait until I'm 30+ years old and bragging about my number of posts on a forum btw.
hilarious that you got so salty at me that you went to check my videos to guess how old i am lol Yes Lowbei, I checked your videos months and months ago to see how much of an expert you are. Turns out you just pull people off the hook in front of killers because you constantly run WGLF. Who'd have thought the anti-mate would be against SWF. right, so i make a lot of bloodpoints, i hope thats ok with you.
i would pull you off the hook in front of the killer, but i dont play in scrub ranks so we probably will never meet.
I think it's more the fact you live in a different country to that of myself.
Imagine... bragging about a rank that can be earned through playing enough in a month and has absolutely nothing to do with being a good player at all.








imagine, being unable to compete past rank15 and talking trash to rank1s lol
git gud, someday
Yawn
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@Lowbei said:
SenzuDuck said:@Lowbei said:
SenzuDuck said:
@Lowbei said: SenzuDuck said:
Yea, they never do any changes for killers.
lol months later and this same swf only rando is still whining about killers being op on the forum. Yawn Have never once said killers are OP. Nice to see you still lie to try and perpetuate the nonsense you spread. Can't wait until I'm 30+ years old and bragging about my number of posts on a forum btw.
hilarious that you got so salty at me that you went to check my videos to guess how old i am lol
Yes Lowbei, I checked your videos months and months ago to see how much of an expert you are. Turns out you just pull people off the hook in front of killers because you constantly run WGLF. Who'd have thought the anti-mate would be against SWF.
right, so i make a lot of bloodpoints, i hope thats ok with you.
i would pull you off the hook in front of the killer, but i dont play in scrub ranks so we probably will never meet.
"I make a lot of bloodpoints" AHAHAHA imagine bragging about that IMAGINE ahaha he actually did it, mad lad.
I think it's more the fact you live in a different country to that of myself.
Imagine... bragging about a rank that can be earned through playing enough in a month and has absolutely nothing to do with being a good player at all.








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@Lowbei said:
SenzuDuck said:@Lowbei said:
SenzuDuck said:
Yea, they never do any changes for killers.
lol months later and this same swf only rando is still whining about killers being op on the forum.
Yawn
Have never once said killers are OP.
Nice to see you still lie to try and perpetuate the nonsense you spread.
Can't wait until I'm 30+ years old and bragging about my number of posts on a forum btw.
hilarious that you got so salty at me that you went to check my videos to guess how old i am lol
Yes Lowbei, I checked your videos months and months ago to see how much of an expert you are. Turns out you just pull people off the hook in front of killers because you constantly run WGLF. Who'd have thought the anti-mate would be against SWF.
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@Lowbei said:
SenzuDuck said:Yea, they never do any changes for killers.
lol months later and this same swf only rando is still whining about killers being op on the forum.
Yawn
Have never once said killers are OP.
Nice to see you still lie to try and perpetuate the nonsense you spread.Imagine bragging about your stats on a forum btw.
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That’s ok.Captain_Spaulding said:@SenzuDuck said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
@SenzuDuck said:
Yea, they never do any changes for killers.Yes, I bet this hotfix will be example for the huge killer buffs several times in the following weeks

They've pretty much done nothing but buff killers for months.
I've been creeping on these forums for a while and you're one of the few survivor mains I've learned to ignore love. I'm sure a lot of people have. Have fun in your matches~
Im absolutely not a killer main, but I’ve come to realise half the problems that people face on this forum are simply them lacking the skill to compete. I’ve had absolute trains ran on me by rank one Freddies & Trappers. But nope, instead of people practising with them they’d rather wait and wait until they buffed into oblivion.
Heres my issue. Killers complain rank one is hard, they also complain that every survivor is in rank one because it’s so easy to get there.
Which is it, every pleb survivor is rank one, or rank one is hard?
Im currently rank 5 killer and rank 6 survivor. I used to get to rank one every season but have since started playing other games as DBD isn’t doing for me as much after 2300 hours.
But yes - just a survivor main with a different opinion.