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@Okapi said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1581453#Comment_1581453
They can't continue to ignore the elephant in the room. SWF is OP. It's time to design perks and gameplay balance with them in mind. If that means giving (solo) survivors QOL buffs and killers major buffs so be it.
That’s the thing you can’t buff/nerf around swf or the top 1% as only the top sweat squads are op every other swf is balanced more or less only thing you can do is buff solo and killer to be at a closer level
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@ALostPuppy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1581506#Comment_1581506
Should add to that by saying every killer can win against the average survivor group so honestly who cares about tier lists lmao.
Exactly all killers can win against regular groups even clown so tier lists don’t mean anything
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Honestly tier lists are too opinion based and hard for me to decide so I’ll put the simple facts down Nurse is the best Clown is the worst everything in between is up for opinion
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@Talmeer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1581468#Comment_1581468
That and you can open lockers faster, aka. waste not much time with them. That is especially a nice goody if you use no slow down perks.
I know that many see Iron maiden as a trash perk, but I love him.
I think it’s an alright utility perk I only ever find it a waste of time on huntress but that’s a long story on why that is and off topic lol maybe if people want it I’ll make a post about it
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@Talmeer said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1581450#Comment_1581450
I have watch this behavior several times by survivors.
As a non bbq using killer, I need to say - Iron maiden comes there in handy :D
honestly at that point if they are going in a locker they are 40m away so you won’t get the exposed but I guess it is a way to know where to go if they hide in lockers
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Problem is it’s only an issue in swf and they will not buff/nerf around swf which is good but sucks when things like OoO and DS can be abused by them quite easily
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@Revzi100 said:
I unlocked the bbq and chilli in the shrine but it still hasnt shown up in the blood web of the killer, i know the blood webs are random but after spending over 600k blood points i would of thought it would of appeared at least once
Welcome to dbd I’ve leveled killers to p3 50 before getting 1 tier of bbq
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I don’t know just seems like simple assumption based on teachable perks or just over used perks in general same can be done about the killer side you always have to assume their is bbq and hide in lockers even if it’s not there with something like spirit you assume they have stridor
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@Seanzu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1579233#Comment_1579233
They are talking about the killers steam profile, not the killer.
Oh ok I guess I misread the post my bad lol then on that people would private it like they already do to avoid not so polite messages 😬
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Survivors are all shells with same counters while killers are different and have different counters that of done can be more devastating to the other player (ex flashlights on wraith or hag) being able to know oh hey it’s a wraith would make the squads run 4 flashlights causing killer to lobby dodge more frequently
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They would rather have one update over two even though there is still two more weeks before it comes out so yeah glitch is here to stay but if you get stuck run forward and open your menu off and on it should get you out
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@Rogue11 said:
Since most of the comments completely ignored the video of the entire match in favor or taking RizeAki's version of events at face value, I'll repost the link here.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/723551021
2:10 You're downed for the first time. David is right next to you and injured so she chases and downs him. Feng is working on a gen right in front of you when she comes back, so she chases her off. Attempts to hook you but Jane pallet saves.
3:05 Downed and immediately hooked.
3:55 You are unhooked, but decide to RUN AT THE KILLER, instead of escaping to the opposite side of the map. I suppose you think she should A. try to pick you under a pallet so your swf teammates can pallet save again or B. eat the DS you were obviously trying to force even though you "wasn’t I was trying to run off to be healed". Completely sound decision to slug at this point.
4:28 You use Unbreakable or are healed, killer is carrying Jane. You have all the time in the world to "run off to be healed". Instead you RUN AT THE KILLER flashlight clicking. At this point the killer has multiple injured targets in the same area that are body blocking and initiating chases. It would be absolutely stupid to not slug in this situation, especially when you're trying to flashlight blind in the open instead of run.
In each situation, YOU initiated a chase with the killer, and your teammates played the situation horribly. It's almost hard to believe you were a swf on comms. Stop blaming the killer for your poor plays.
Oh well if I want to rant I never gave any names you and her called her out not me so gg now everyone knows who it was
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@Rogue11 said:
Since most of the comments completely ignored the video of the entire match in favor or taking RizeAki's version of events at face value, I'll repost the link here.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/723551021
2:10 You're downed for the first time. David is right next to you and injured so she chases and downs him. Feng is working on a gen right in front of you when she comes back, so she chases her off. Attempts to hook you but Jane pallet saves.
3:05 Downed and immediately hooked.
3:55 You are unhooked, but decide to RUN AT THE KILLER, instead of escaping to the opposite side of the map. I suppose you think she should A. try to pick you under a pallet so your swf teammates can pallet save again or B. eat the DS you were obviously trying to force even though you "wasn’t I was trying to run off to be healed". Completely sound decision to slug at this point.
4:28 You use Unbreakable or are healed, killer is carrying Jane. You have all the time in the world to "run off to be healed". Instead you RUN AT THE KILLER flashlight clicking. At this point the killer has multiple injured targets in the same area that are body blocking and initiating chases. It would be absolutely stupid to not slug in this situation, especially when you're trying to flashlight blind in the open instead of run.
In each situation, YOU initiated a chase with the killer, and your teammates played the situation horribly. It's almost hard to believe you were a swf on comms. Stop blaming the killer for your poor plays.
Like was it not obvious? So for running perks and trying to suicide out I deserve to be stuck on the ground? As I said above I was doing tomes and as it was a challenge impossible to do on that map especially against crosshairs huntress I wanted to suicide and try on another map can’t exactly dc or else 15min ban
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@Rogue11 said:
Since most of the comments completely ignored the video of the entire match in favor or taking RizeAki's version of events at face value, I'll repost the link here.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/723551021
2:10 You're downed for the first time. David is right next to you and injured so she chases and downs him. Feng is working on a gen right in front of you when she comes back, so she chases her off. Attempts to hook you but Jane pallet saves.
3:05 Downed and immediately hooked.
3:55 You are unhooked, but decide to RUN AT THE KILLER, instead of escaping to the opposite side of the map. I suppose you think she should A. try to pick you under a pallet so your swf teammates can pallet save again or B. eat the DS you were obviously trying to force even though you "wasn’t I was trying to run off to be healed". Completely sound decision to slug at this point.
4:28 You use Unbreakable or are healed, killer is carrying Jane. You have all the time in the world to "run off to be healed". Instead you RUN AT THE KILLER flashlight clicking. At this point the killer has multiple injured targets in the same area that are body blocking and initiating chases. It would be absolutely stupid to not slug in this situation, especially when you're trying to flashlight blind in the open instead of run.
In each situation, YOU initiated a chase with the killer, and your teammates played the situation horribly. It's almost hard to believe you were a swf on comms. Stop blaming the killer for your poor plays.
As said above I ran at her to get hooked so I could suicide nobody wants to play with exploits and that was what this post was about idc that I got slugged for that long but don’t say someone deserves it for perks while running exploits
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Catch you on the flip flop my dude
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@Desh said:
Hold up. You're mad that a Killer didn't want to immediately put you right back on the hook? He/she slugged you instead to give you a chance, but he/she was still in the area when you used Unbreakable and you're mad that you got slugged again instead of getting hooked for your mistake?
No she legit camped my body with crosshairs downing anyone that made an attempt to save me while hooking them and leaving me until bleed out I’m not mad it was slightly a rant it was more funny cuz she told me I deserve it for my perks while she is using exploits cuz to her that was fine
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@EuphoricBliss35 said:
OP, sometimes you gotta just DC and move on. It’s BS, but it is what it is.
On a separate note, the level of primitive defense mechanisms displayed in this thread alone is just, wow. Bet you didn’t know you could learn so much about Cluster B pathology from a forum thread
Trust me would have dced if I could but penalties and I was in a swf so I didn’t want to ruin things for them
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@Bellarz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1577296#Comment_1577296
You had almost 2 minutes left on your bleed out timer and I was at a different corner of the map. Jane should have come for you, that's why I went away to let her get you. Once you were close to bleeding out, I definitely wanted to killer her for letting someone die on the floor like that.
I told her to wait for hatch no use picking me up for me to go down again
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@Bellarz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1577074#Comment_1577074
You didn't even read what I posted I literally said I didn't mean to slug you for that long, I was looking for the last survivor. I also said I didn't slug you because of Unbreakable + DS, I had no way of knowing what perks you had.
Why at 4-5 gens be slugging like that in the first place? Was the 4K really that important?
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@Bellarz like tunneling or camping me would be one thing for bringing perks atleast I could suicide out or try to run you around but you legit wouldn’t even do that you watched a whole timer bleed out
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@Bellarz said:
After you got unhooked I slugged you, because you literally ran at me so it's safe to assume you had DS. After you used unbreakable you ran at me AGAIN, trying to flashlight me when you could have ran away. Then I hooked two other people and left you on the ground, because Jane was my last BBQ stack, I literally went to a different corner of the map looking for her so she could pick you up. She hid in a locker in the preschool waiting for you to bleed out so she could get hatch. I didn't let you bleed out because you had DS + Unbreakable, I had no way of knowing until the game was over. After the game I said you "kind of deserved it" for using a build like that, that has no counter. Didn't do it on purpose, I was looking for the last survivor.
Here's the highlight of the entire game
You slugged me to kill three other survivors I ran at you after unbreakable cuz I didn’t want to play anymore I was trying to suicide out cuz nobody was having fun with you constantly knocking me everytime I was picked up no one deserves to be slugged for 4 min at 4-5 gens cuz your mad someone brings perks one of which didn’t get used you just assumed it was there
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You got a point it do be like that I run the best perks on killer and most of the time on survivor so I can’t complain but I think everyone agrees ds makes it possible to abuse it too easily but then again if they do it’s one time use so I don’t think a fix should be too high on the list
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@NursesBootie said:
Well, slugging for so long is not cool, but using a crosshair on huntress in not as useful as you might think.
I mean yeah it’s not game breaking but it still helps more of my issue is not them using it but being toxic and crying about a perk I used because of how they play while also using exploits and claiming they are perfectly fine
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@Zarathos said:
I'm surprised no one picked you up. Those two perks create a lot of killer vitriol much like how a mori's tend to get survivors to dc or just teabag. Honestly dbd is a game with a list of broken crap stop playing fair if you expect others to follow. There is no rulebook, no honor code. Play what you want. Obviously normal behavior rules apply hacking,holding hostage and exploits etc are ban able.
If someone tries to guilt you into playing otherwise then remind them no ones obeying the honor code rules so why should you?
That’s because she was basically watching my body from a distance with the cross hairs so she could hit them with 99.9% acc every time they tried which she did when a couple of them said screw it and tried to one for one me off the ground once succeeded but ofc she still knocked me straight down then hooked both of them but left me on the ground again I told the other person to try and hide for hatch since it’s 4 gens left and two people and she wants to slug for a 4K but she got caught cuz whispers so literally everyone else died first hook while I bled out because as she said it since I had UB and probably DS I deserve to be slugged for 4 min
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@rogueplayer00 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1576097#Comment_1576097
Respect. Garbage slug game man, sorry that happened to ya. I dont slug just because "insert perk being used here" I normally slug if someone's a bully. If you've got DS unbreakable and you tbag and click at me then yeah. Get slugged for the whole game. But I never out the gate at 5 gens just "lol slug and bleed".
Exactly that’s how I am When I play there is a fine line between playing killer and being a dick and at 5 gens slugging the first person you found non stop off hook mind you is being a dick no amount of entitlement should make anyone disagree with that
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@handfulofrain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1575975#Comment_1575975
Ah, the good old "us v. them" mentality - because it's DEFINITELY what side you play, not the kind of person you are.
Yeah I get that their is a lot of that hopefully my post doesn’t sound like that I’ve met scummy people on both sides more so on killer but I just chose this one to rant over cuz at the end of the day I found it funny perks are worse then exploits and because im trying to do tomes where I have to play certain ways I don’t normally do and so I get shitted on by sweat lords lol
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@Nicholas said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1576085#Comment_1576085
Oh my reply was sarcasm. I think what The Huntress did was wrong, but it's something that happens quite often. Whenever either role perceives an injustice or toxicity, they seem to amp up the nastiness for the duration of the match and sometimes it spills over to the next matches. It's also a mechanical problem with the game where you're basically held hostage on the floor and can't do anything for so long. That's why I think we need to bleed out option even if it's limited to certain conditions. At that point I'd rather move on to the next match.
Oh my bad it’s early as hell for me so I must not have understood the sarcasm then 😂
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@Xpljesus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1575915#Comment_1575915
yes, I do this and that's how I know. The bar does not increase when you're not holding M2, and drains really fast when the saw isn't charging, it is extremely easy to manage the saw in this situation
Then I ain’t arguing with someone who doesn’t know how to play the game yet I’m sorry 😂
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@rogueplayer00 said:
I'm not trying to be a sarcastic #########, I promise you, but I have to ask. Whats your honest opinion on NOED?
My opinion is it’s an overhyped garbage perk for 1 it forces you to have 3 perks most if not all game 2 it doesn’t give kills it gives free hooks if the killer got a kill when using this they probably would have got it anyways then and 3 you shouldn’t need a perk to get a hook
bonus it also has the easiest counter breaking totems so can’t really complain too much about hex perks
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@Nicholas said:
You got exactly what you deserved! A killer is free to do whatever they want in the match, if they want to slug or tunnel you just have to accept that. Whatever you do don't bring and certainly never use perks that help deal with those situations because then the Killer is going to slug and tunnel you!
This isn’t about telling anyone how to play please read the post I said that it’s about A just to let off steam mostly been having many bad games so this helps me relax a bit by talking about it B Because you can’t have a mindset of people can’t use what’s in game like to stop tunneling but then use exploits to help you tunnel easier
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@xenotimebong said:
If you check your copy of the killer rule book for survivors you’ll find it on page 1, no strong perks are allowed. Even if you’re playing the exercise in frustration that is solo survivor, you’re not allowed to make the killer’s job harder or inconvenience them in any way.
Oh shoot I forgot sorry I’ll delete my complaint right away 😂 but nah it’s so true for both sides they try to tell you how to play
Like I get I’m complaining but that was all I did was complain a bit to her I never said she should stop playing like that if she has fun that’s all that matters I guess
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@bjorksnas said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1576056#Comment_1576056
Its only broken when forcing it, sick joke, just like you thinking you deserve sympathy while using it, cute, still no sympathy for you but cute
I never asked for sympathy dude But I feel bad for you some swf team must of hurt you badly with those perks for you to have so much entitlement
If I abused the perks like said I tried to run at her to force them to be used I wouldn’t care if I got camped tunneled slug moried bled out etc it was the fact you can’t whine about perks when you are A cheating and B causing them to activate by you tunneling and slugging straight off hook should I not run them and just let killers tunnel me to dead hook?
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@bjorksnas said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1576031#Comment_1576031
I don't remember asking the situation of which you used those two busted perks together, I just heard you complaining while using them which nullifies any care a sensible person would have for your situation
Ahh one of those entitled players aight bye you can stop replying then 👋 it’s only broken if the A survivor is forcing it which I wasn’t I was trying to run off to be healed or B the killer is hard tunneling like so
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@Carpemortum said:
You using perks is just as acceptable as them slugging. Its 4 minutes.
How in any scenario is leaving someone to bleed as the game starts acceptable? Like I can be a scummy killer but never that scummy
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@bjorksnas said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/186464/slugged-for-four-minutes-because-i-used-perks
If you got slugged without ds and unbreakable I would have felt bad for you but thats just karma for running that broken perk combo
I mean I said why I was kate for an old tome challenge so I only speed leveled her to 40 for perks so she has about 10 and less then half are actually good to decent almost all being tier 1 like those perks that and I’m not the best at looping so if I’m being tunneled and having to loop while injured especially against some more unfun killers it can be easy for me to just be caught again so I bring it in case
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@Aven_Fallen said:
Havent you got the memo? Only Killers are allowed to run good Perks, as Survivor you will have to use Buckle Up and Deja-Vu.
Anyway, it sucks that this happened to you, but dont worry, most PC Killers are not like that.
I’m more of a killer main so I get how it can be like the map was badham with a 4 man swf so you never know how the game will go I always start a bit sweaty to get a feel of the team then lessen if I need but dang some people just don’t let down 😂
Also I know it’s not a pc thing all console have scum players not just on killer but survivor to I just pointed the pc part out cuz quite a bit that play huntress do use crosshairs so thought it was funny that “exploit” to them is fine but not me running perks to try and hopefully stop or stall the game long enough when that gameplay happens
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@LeaderoftheSaints said:
How dare you use perks. Thats against the rules man. You're suppose to sit there and be a free down and not struggle on hook.
But no seriously that ######### is annoying af to just be slugged for no reason but to get a reaction out of you. Which they kind of did since you made a forums post.
Yeah I probably shouldn’t have made any post but had to let anger out about one game Atleast truth be told been having a lot of bad games lately with constant tunneling and ######### so had to let off steam like I’ll tunnel when a bad save is made so I can’t complain too much but having every game be first hooked and tunneled out of game not being able to do tome challenges sucks 😭
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They need to be more open about what they are doing they disable them and reenable them but don’t tell anyone how they fixed them or if they did we have to find out when this stuff happens they didn’t fix them
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The hit boxes like every other thing they try to fix (mmr I’m looking at you) does the opposite effect I’ve been getting hit from more stupid things then I did before they added validation I think by far the dumbest was when a billy slammed into a wall a good 10m away from me and I downed yet no one was laggy
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@Xpljesus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1575888#Comment_1575888
if he tantrums or used all charges somehow when camping, he ######### up insanely bad. I main this ######### and I've never had this issue bar vs SB. You still literally cannot rescue vs this playstyle if the killer has half a braincell
he has no choice in the matter if he is revving his chainsaw to camp as you run at the hook and back revving to not sprint at you until you unhook he will tantrum But like are you saying you know this stuff cuz you do all this?
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@Xpljesus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1573507#Comment_1573507
Irrespective of the fact it’s pretty much impossible to make a bubba tantrum with fakes, he can two tap through BT now anyway, even has enough time through DH, so the unhooked guy has to have sprint burst or he is dead
If he tantrums or uses all charges he can’t chainsaw them and at that point if he still chases them down he isn’t camping anymore he is tunneling and that’s a whole different topic I’m just saying with the new changes it’s much easier to get a rescue now cuz he can’t hold saw forever he will have to either chainsaw sprint at you so be ready for that or straight up tantrum losing all stacks
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@TheClownIsKing said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1573507#Comment_1573507
He can move during the tantrum
I’m talking about once it ends and he becomes an m1 killer for a few seconds
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@Brhoom said:
Before this thread is spammed with ''do gens'' I ask you to read my post.
Let's imagine a scenario, 4 SWF vs a camping Bubba.
1- First chase ends just as the first gen is finished.
2- Bubba hooks and is facecamping, so the hooked survivor tells his teammates to rush gens.
3- A survivors takes 120 seconds on the hook to die.
4- A gens takes 80 seconds so that means 3 gens were done.
5- As the last gens is done Bubba is free again, but both NOED and Bitter Murmur activate and Bubba now has 10 seconds of aura reading plus NEOD.
This means Bubba can AT LEAST guarantee a 2k.
And this is if he goes against a really good SWF team.
Yes, all Bubbas who want to facecamp run both BM and NOED, these two aren't unusual perks to be equipped by them. Also, Monstrous Shrine and Blood Warden show up from time to time to guarantee even less time to finish gens.
What is the counter to this?
No, They don't care that they depipped
No, they don't find this boring and enjoy getting 3k-4k every match.
No, ''doing gens'' isn't the answer and you can't ''do bones'' either since there isn't enough time, and with Bitter Murmur is a guarantee 2k.
Imagine this with Solo Que? EZ 4k.
Imagine if the first chase ended early
Imagine if all 3 remaining survivors managed to finish all gens but all of them were on the last gen and NOED activates with Bitter Murmur
No need to imagine since Otz once made a stream about this and all of this happened and he got ez 4ks
Solution?
I believe hooks should change location if Bubba is facecamlping just like Pyrimad Head, maybe if all gens are finished it then hooks don't teleport for him.
What other solutions do you think can solve this?
What you do is run bt and force him to rev too much where he tantrums then you get the save while he has no charges
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@azame said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1572107#Comment_1572107
You clearly meant it being me but I only made one on slinger and the other two used him ad an example commenters made the post about slinger not me.
You are constantly whining about him and other killers it wasn’t no test it was you mad and instead of moving onto the next game you come here and spam whine didn’t say you was quitting the game like 10 times already?
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@azame said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1571559#Comment_1571559
I made 2-3 posts lol and one or 2 of them wasnt even about slinger. That's why they aren't removing them. Also it was a mere test to see the forums players. Next time @ me I dont care.
I mean never said it was you but nice to see you admit to being the one doing it 😂
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@Babyyy_Boyy said:
I think it’s safe to say that the next killer to get nerfed or tweaked is deathslinger. These forums have been filled with Deathslinger rants and topics about how he has no counterplay which I somewhat agree to an extent. Oh well, what do you guys think? What killer do you think will be getting a nerf next?
It’s only one guy complaining on forums he is spamming posts though but for some reason mods don’t remove his posts and or him
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It wasn’t really people disagreeing with you
it was people pointing out the counters to deathslinger but I guess trying to help you is killer entitlement now?
If you were to change the 1v1 aspect what would you buff to the 4v1 give him 4.6 speed? You have to have something There he doesn’t have good 4v1 especially on large maps
I will say this part one more time as well his counter is walls, pallets, fences, cars, etc. Now is this fun counterplay maybe not but it is counterplay none the less
This game is not killer sides nor survivor sided neither is the forums you can’t expect killer mains to not have a debate when you make a complaint with no proof or reasoning and without a compromise to help the well known 4v1 problem he has
One last thing you pointed out Scott’s video but did you not here when he said that deathslinger has counterplay the exact same thing I told you putting stuff between you his point wasn’t that they were op killers or not able to be countered it was that they aren’t the most fun to try and counter
try going with that narrative instead of the “ I can’t beat this so it must be nerfed” narrative it’s not a good look and is why most people aren’t taking you seriously especially when things get heated so instead of deal with it you make a new post about the same thing
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This will be abused
in games that have this it gets abused especially competitive ones
you might have good intents on why you would want to block but most I meet would block because in their minds being outplayed was toxic and that would cause a lot of increased que times
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First why do you make a million of the same post a day about the exact same complaint
Secondly he has counterplay it’s called putting things between you and him like cars, fences, walls, pallets, etc while your team does gens because as a 4.4 he doesn’t have much map pressure especially when survivors spam ormond
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@BaroneMaximus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1564650#Comment_1564650
They have serious mental problems, i'm pretty sure
real problem is adding an aura to trail anyways since it has a Cooldown anyways but ehh running surveillance removes the aura so it’s all good