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  • @RpTheHotrod said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3643433#Comment_3643433

    If you don't get how this breaks the balance, something specifically designed where it needs a way for a killer to cancel it out and that method is now missing, them I don't know what to tell you.

    Trust it does not. I've had plenty of games with wiretap users and it's not abused at all. You'll be fine

  • @Coffeecrashing said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/404434/mikaela-needs-glasses

    I thought those were fake prop glasses to go with her Halloween costume, and it's her default outfit because that's what she was wearing when she was taken by the fog...

    "That evening when the host called Mikaela's name at the Endless Halloween Festival, she boldly stepped on stage, dressed in a costume: a black dress matched with a wide, witchy hat." and "A thick black fog engulfed Mikaela, to the audience's amazement. And no one saw Mikaela Reid again."

    That's what I was thinking too. It's just for show. Don't think she has vision problems like dwight without glasses. But he does have like only 2 skins where he isn't wearing his glasses tho.

  • @RpTheHotrod said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3643168#Comment_3643168

    While you're running the killer, another survivor need only hop onto the gen. It wouldn't be regressing, at all. As long as the repair survivor stops every 4 seconds for a split moment, they can continue to repair while maintaining its non kickable state. While it's not "forever", the perk was clearly designed to be interuptable by the killer. Now it can't be. That's a problem.

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3643071#Comment_3643071

    They disregarded several posts, so they were very much aware of this but made it live anyway. That's them making a decision to okay the "tactic".

    But that's also unwise. Wiretap has only about 14 m distance of reading a killers aura. If a killer literally let someone stay on that gen while chasing close it and hear them do it, then they deserve to lose that.

  • One, it's not "forever", as wiretap has a limit. And two, you are sacrificing your gen progress by doing this which is unwise. Bythe time wiretap is over, if you managed to run them the whole 120 seconds, your gen will be close 0 if you 99'd it.

  • @Caiman said:

    They still aren't as good as they used to be, but it's better than it has been recently.

    It still feels like they're just using an AI to write these.

    I think they got better tbh. My personal fav is with this rift with dwight. It shows that he does in fact have at least a small group of friends that he sneaks off with from work and spends time with them to watch movies. I always thought he didn't have any. But he may have had some that are just as awkward and below avg as him and that's adorable.

  • @wisdomwielder said:

    Just wanted to acknowledge the quality cosmetic descriptions in the new rift and in the store cosmetics. They each tell their own little story to give a bit of context about their lives or why they might be wearing that particular outfit. As someone who always enjoys hearing more about my favorite characters and their lives, it's very much appreciated, especially for characters with limited lore. Felix may not have gotten a tome this time, but at least I got a enough amount of information to where my mind can fill in the blanks.

    It's definitely a far cry from "She liked the blue color." So, just wanted to say: Thanks BHVR for the effort, it did not go unnoticed.

    I honestly hope felix or even elodie gets a tome soon. They never expanded upon their story and the pariahs. It's been far too long.

  • @Legendary_Shadee said:

    Hello BHVR and others, I was wondering why the same characters get skins all the time while others whom yes aren’t as popular, don’t. I myself LOVE Jake Park, but find it more and more frustrating how with every event or collection that passes, he always get neglected. Out of the main 4, (Dwight, Meg, Claudette, Jake) he has the least cosmetics. I get the others are more popular so it brings more money.. but please in the future consider the others. Jake is beloved by others, so it would be nice to see him receive some more love. He was shown in the rift once, compared to the others it’s just not fair. He deserves better. Thank you and have a good day.

    I'm sorry for your loss. But of course, jake will always be that blacksheep in the OG 4. It's been how long, more than 2 years since he's gotten a full shop outfit that stayed in the store permanently. It's not fair. But when it comes to making potential revenue, he will always be a lower priority while the other 3 and generally just female survivors, be given more skins.

  • @Zenislev said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3641576#Comment_3641576

    I see your lore argument, but have you considered the following:

    Who cares? Like, actually, who cares?

    The devs certainly don't care. Have you seen what cosmetic descriptions look like now? No, the reason why they're been making everything blue is because its a low effort way for them to squeeze some more engagement time from players, since anyone that's already capped out the tome has already sunk enough time into the game in a given season for them to think "Eeeeeh, it's just 15 more levels, I can do that"

    The deeprift doesn't exist because of lore, it exists because it pads out the game's engagement metrics, and that looks really nice to shareholders.

    Given that, it would be really nice if they could actually put slightly more effort into the deep rift variants. Instead of just making everything blue, they could add some some extra bits to the costumes. If they really wanted to do something nice they could add in dye system. The default versions of the costumes can't be dyed but then the deeprift versions let you pick which colors you want on the accent parts that would normally just be lazily dipped in blue paint, at least then there'd a really good reason to get the deep rift versions since they'd offer you more customization than you'd get normally.

    The cosmetic description have gotten better after we complained about it. So that's fine. Even these rift skins have interesting lore descriptions. So I'm not worried about that at all. Besides, they could've just never included the deep rift levels/skins into the rift at all since you consider their work "low effort."

  • @Decutor said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3641576#Comment_3641576

    Sorry but that doesn't really fly when you have entire collections making to the store that are also heavily focused on the blue color.

    Someone at BHVR just loves the color palette. Just like someone there loves an accessory hanging on character's back.

    I like the idea of deep rift skins being different than the regular skin featured in the regular rift, I just want it to vary a little from blue.

    Some skins are already blue in the regular rift and in the deep rift its blue again but bluer.

    Well thats what makes the deep rift collection special. And i once again believe they wont change the color scheme because the lore currently doesnt let them. Besides, I do not recall any default rift skin being blue and repeating the same color scheme in deep rift.

  • There is a justifiable reason why the deep rift color is blue lorewise. Unless something happens in the lore that causes the rift to change color storywise; being the auris being corrupted or something, I see no reason for the deep rift to change.

    But it's also why they give alternate default colors for rift skins for the characters that are focused in the tome. If you don't like blue, them the base skin would be a different color that isn't blue.

  • I must say that the jacket actually does clip when equipped with his recent alpine leg skin due to the gloves equipped on the side. They probably made it a set for that one reason in advance. But I still believe it shouldn't be a set. There are some skins from feng and mikaela that clips and aren't sets.

    So many streamers have actually started playing gabriel a bit because of this set being broken. So I hope they reconsider with not making it a set. But of course take away the skin if someone didn't buy it since it was mistakenly given to everyone.

  • Personally I run ds alot. It's not strong on its own for sure. But I run it with DH and OTR to compensate it ls weakness because I genuinely just hate being hard tunneled.

  • Literally ace. And I blame the devs partially. They never expanded on luck mechanic. It does nothing for chest. Only for unhook which involves self unhooking so you're literally throwing for a chance to get value.

  • @Frizouw said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3639694#Comment_3639694

    I don't agree with that.

    Because it will continue and become worst. Peope will leave the game, Q will be longer than ever to simply play a ######### game :/

    it's like saying let yourself abuse, it will be end faster. no.

    Well for one, it's just a video game. So I will never let my mental health be in jeopardy because someone plays in a poor sport way. And we all tried to explain how tunneling is causing people to not enjoy the game to the devs as a whole. But they won't apply any new mechanics to punish them for it, so we have no choice but to just adapt to it or just gg go next.

  • It's better to just honestly let it go and just "take it." Because devs will not do anything to change tunneling in this game, even if it ruins the experience of that one person getting tunneled and sacrificed at 5 gens. All they can do is give us perks and basekit BT to help, that's it.

    Personally, I do bring antitunnel perks, but even then it's sad that I have to rely on them for myself. Because it doesn't stop the killer to tunnel someone else and ruin their experience.

    So what I do is, if someone is tunneling me without antitunnel perks, I just give up. Because I can choose to not play with someone that ruins the experience of other people. We can't report them, and they can't report us for it. Or if someone else is tunneled out at 5 gens. They playing boring, I respond by playing boring and hide which prolongs the match even further. But overall, they won't do anything. It's better to just handle it on your own terms that doesn't require harassment, threats etc in the endgame. Move on and hope for a better match.

  • Will this carry over to console later in the future? Cause I know steam are the only one who got this mini update

  • In a reddit AMA, they answered my shirtless question about that with "in due time". And coupled with that he was supposed to get a waterfront massacre skin(was in a article), but they vaulted it for unknown reasons. So hopefully soon.

  • And the audacity to put DMS and pain res in the shrine soon after. Like these devs know what they are doing and do not care about health of solo q players. They definitely favor the killer side and nobody can tell me otherwise. NOBODY

  • That's even worse. Because only 1 gen will be benefitting from quick gambit when the original could benefit multiple people. Also, you are relying on your teammate to be close to that specific generator when you get off it and be in a chase. Not only that, the killer can decide to initiate chase, leave you alone-which will deactivate the perk because they ended that chase, kick the gen then chase you.

  • PUHLEEASE behavior. Like Feng and mikaela has a few skins that clip on their nonlinked skins. Gabriel literally has one. And thats just his alpine leg skin that clips through his jacket. That's it. Let us have this ONE WIN! We are suffering!!!

    Oh. And congrats on almost p100 Gabe. You're almost at p100 Gabe club with me! Keep going!

  • We honestly got to a point where you just gotta either power through gens or just hide. Personally, if a blight, no any killer, wanna be boring and hard tunnel at 5, I just be boring right back and hide. This is a hide and seek game right? Welp, lets do just that then.

  • @BlightedTrapper said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3634293#Comment_3634293

    Unless they have a challenge to get sacrifices, what's the point of camping for a 1k? What does that prove, that they can stare at a hooked survivor for 2 minutes? Gee, that sure is a huge outplay. Sounds to me that it's just saving the player's fragile ego, cause after all, they "beat" at least one survivor.

    Imagine tunneling the whole match then camping for a 1k at the end with so few bloodpoints in the results. That's how you know killers don't care about bloodpoints anymore. They just want kills which means nothing because you don't even see your mmr anyways. That's so sad

  • @MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3635278#Comment_3635278

    This sadly does not work. I reported a lot people for working with killer but non of them banned. I even sent video to support but nothing happened.

    Only obvious cheaters are getting ban.

    And this is why I put in the OP on what do we do in the match besides the report system. Because the report system does not work. Months ago, I've reported in game and sent a ticket with video proof 3 times and none of them gave me a ingame feedback pop up when I boot up the game. So I gave up on reporting on sandbagging teammates. I'm confident they only do something about hackers and harassment. That's it.

  • @Alen_Starkly said:

    I really don't want to suffer against the new Grim Embrace for the next 6 months 😢

    I'm sure killers will proxy camp even more now.... Hook someone, then step away just far enough for Grim Embrace to Activate. Then Dead man's Switch activates as well. And when someone comes in for a save, down them and hook them. And then you get the broken combo once again. So *camping* is going to be very much rewarded now. I smell the return of camping Bubbas.... 😞

    Very funny.... You hook and don't even need to go patrol any gen at all, because you know all of them are blocked. Pair that with Deadlock, and you're all set.

    Oh that's definitely gonna happen no doubt. So for now, I honestly recommend reassurance to be run more tbh. That will at least punish them for proxy camping. Or put in kindred to see what ur teammates are doing and if the killer s proxy camping

  • I agree with that as well. But bhvr won't do that because they are afraid it'll cause ppl to cling to characters that are more meta. And that meta survivor might not be the one that's giving them more money from skins like for example if it was jonah. So they don't wanna lose out on more money if let's say Feng had the worst unique add on. Her sales would probably drop for it in skins.

    Also it's alot of work to begin with. And we know behavior takes their sweet time on everything

  • @UndeddJester said:

    Yeah I'll use it time to time. 36m is a lot bigger than people think.

    I still maintain people are ignoring its potential as an anti-3-gen perk, and on a map like Midwich or the Game, the perk will be pretty damned strong.

    And it's funny in swf. It's the only perk that can stack with itself when it comes to gen boost. So me and my duo can add bloodpact together and get chased together while others do gens.

  • I always have a pride flag on. Then the other 2 are related to the character, be it their own figurine and any charm that came from their tome.

    But I do have characters where they don't have that so I just put on any iri charms from the rift or tome completion that look good on them.

  • Most likely will skip entirely. Only because he may have his perks in the shrine soon. How? Because he's going to be in the next tome Revision as shown in dbd official Twitter calendar post. And you know they put in a characters perk in the shrine during their tome.

  • @GolbezGarlandGabrant said:

    The problem with Quick Gambit and several other perks as SoloQ is I don't know if I'm getting any value from the perk at all. So no, probably not.

    Just use Quick Gambit + Bond. Both now synergize better has they both are 36m. So if ur in chase and u see ur teammates, you know they are getting the boost now.

  • They really need to rework the luck mechanic. There could be high potential for new perk ideas from it if they do it right.

  • I say make the killer incapacitated. Never been done before. And by incapacitated, I mean they are unable to use their powers for a certain amount of seconds including the stun time. This will prevent nurse, blights, weskers, etc from immediately using their power to go after the same person.

  • Meh. Let them have it. If killers in high ranks wanna bring pop and pain res then let them have deja vu resi. Especially with the reworked Grim embrace coming. Yea. Survivor is about to be even more insufferable anyways

  • That reworked Grim embrace will be like a mini eruption if they leave it as is. It's even more effective when paired with dms and pain res.

  • The only time I remember they changed something about gen animations was during the descend beyond chapter with felix and blight. I know because I remember vividly when I watched live on a streamer who still plays to this day when they played the ptb of it. He was shocked by the changed and I remember laughing.

  • Because it takes forever for them to test it out and implement even the simplest thing at all. I give it several more months before we get anymore answers to this.

  • @MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:

    You can't defeat Sadako lol. She is not 1 v 1 killer, she will kill you if you watched the tape. Unless you find the way to stop curse, you are dead and from David's lore i don't think he is that smart.

    And Freddty? No way. Freddy killed stronger characters than David. Like he has zero chance because Freddy is simply god level villain.

    And i don't understand no supernatural part anyway. Some of them are dead and ghosts. If there is no supernatural power , then they just simply don't exist.

    You know. I think david is smart. In his basic lore, it said he excelled in academics. But we definitely never got to see that side though. Lol

  • @pigslittlepet said:

    The idea is not to three gen with her. Use her drones for stealth or to counter specific loops. She definitely doesn't need to go back to how she used to be. That was boring in comparison.

    But given how 3 gen hostage situations will be impossible next update, I say bring her back to how she was.

  • Without a doubt, it's Renato with his default pants. His sandals are so quiet when running.

  • It's so ironic. The people I get as teammates still dc or give up the moment they hear her terror radius. I remember the devs said on a discord stream recently that they really try to rework some killers that make ppl dc quickly when talking about sadako's rework. Then ppl in the comments instantly said skull merchant which was funny.


    I honestly truly believe they can revert her power back to what it was. The only issue with her original powers was that she was able to hold 3 gens indefinitely with strong gen perks. But now that holding 3 gens forever will be impossible now soon, they can revert her back honestly.

  • @GeneralV said:

    Skull Merchant, I presume.

    The one killer who gets the most amount of DCs, although I have no doubt Twins would be a contender if they weren't as rare as they are.

    That's correct! It was indeed the infamous extraordinaire, Skull Merchant! Somehow the bots all stayed on gens, didn't save, and we managed to finish all gens. Poor dweet was hit with noed and I was able to escape alone.

    Pretty tragic this killer can cause people to give up. I was so alone. Lol

  • He's honestly been getting at least 1 skin every chapter/midchapter. With the exception of alien midchapter/Halloween event. It's just that it's the same type of skins related to his lore genre while survivors like vittorio can branch outside his own. They really need to do something about his lack of variety though. Cause these skins just can't be mixed and matched with each other. Especially with his limited options.

  • @mikewelk said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3629506#Comment_3629506

    No I just thought maybe it'd be an entire match recording and that might be putting them off... That's super weird.

    Yea. I'm just wondering maybe its because I'm just on console or something. Idk. Cause they ppl I've only seen online who get feedbacks ingame are PC players so far

  • Probably around 15 seconds. With blatant sandbagging. Like pointing to lockers to rat me out. And i know that they will rat me out because the killer would slug and let them wiggle off. So i record the moment they run to my locker, point and killer opens it. And thats the video.


    But unless they are asking for a longer video. Thats hard for me. Because the file would be too big to even upload unfortunately.

  • I've done 3 reports months ago with video proof before. I never got a response back if an action was taken ingame and date it was taken. I don't know if it's because I'm on console or what but to receive nothing at all really diminished my feelings for taking actions tbh. If I'm sending proof and I'm getting no response at all ingame, I rather not try anymore. But hopefully others get responses i guess.

  • Gabriel is my #1 main. And I plan to never change and mean it. The Sci-fi genre when it comes to dystopian future is my obsession. My favorite book is A Brave New World. Movies, shows involving it, a must see for me. The icing of on the cake is that gabriel, although he doesnt have a confirmed race dating back to our own as he just a "Proxima Centaurian", he's a POC in my eyes like me. And he's not so bad to look at either.

    Yes. I am one of those that dont have a problem with his collection of skin choices, as I favor space suits anyways. But i do hope one day, they diversify his skins soon. I know its very difficult to do based on his genre, but im hopeful they'll find a way.

  • @Spare_Them_Mori_Me said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3628664#Comment_3628664

    The way you play has nothing to do with what we were discussing. But I'm glad you're having fun! Most can't look past their own selves and thats why certain playstyles become toxic. Not anyones fault but BHVR's tbh. Assuming people will have DBD etiquette and such for other players is silly on their part and now they are struggling in finding a balance for it all.

    It simply won't happen. But glad you're enjoying the game :)

    Yes my comment actually does have something to do with the discussion. I commented initially to someone because i believe boon illumination will have some value for certain solo q players who want to help give info to their fellow teammates. Especially on indoor maps where gens can be hard to find for some. But I'm happy that you're happy that I'm enjoying myself with diversity in my build. Not many can do that. So I feel special. :)

  • @Spare_Them_Mori_Me said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3628524#Comment_3628524

    What a major assumption. Terrible way of thinking. Anyway.

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3628369#Comment_3628369

    Clearly you aren't playing Solo Survivor.

    Thats another thing I've noticed. A lot of people will state something specifying SoloQ survivor play, and eventually it'll just be lumped in with 'all survivors'. I think people are talking about two different aspects of survivor gameplay and thats when things get muddled.

    Guess that only works for some people cause it works for me and I don't get bored of dbd. Oh well. At least I have fun. That's all that matters for me.

  • @Toaster427 said:

    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3628093#Comment_3628093

    I don't care that they nerfed it.

    Its the fact it was a very new and exciting mechanic for game and BHVR just completely gutted it and then just obliterated every other boon in the game.

    I mean look at the new one coming out....literally nobody is going to use that...you seriously couldn't write a worse perk if you tried.

    Meh. It has some usages for solo q.

    Besides, people who complain about a stale gameplay run the ssame 4 perks over and over again. How about you spice it up and use different perks you normally wouldnt use. It'll change up your playstyle a bit.

  • Before I even started reading, I knew it was going to be blight being the culprit. I swear every blight player plays the same way. However.........in this case. The blight honestly probably had no way to make it to a hook. Now I don't like it either. Personally as a killer, I would've tried to get you to a hook and if you wiggle off, I'll just try to get you again and down you near hook.

    But I feel your frustration. People on this game take it a bit too seriously. The best thing you can do is do your best to not be too bothered by it. For your own mental health. I couldn't be bothered to be too stressed out over a casual video game. I just get on my phone and wait to bleed out if im slugged.

  • Sorry. But if you're having too much fun on one side, then that most likely not good for the other. There has to be some balance. Reminds me with a ptb in the past when endurance could stack. Survivor mains I know had that same feeling you had. Fun. But the other side was so stressed out by that on ptb. But I do believe they will adjust blights iri tag tho. How? Idk

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