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Just spreading the cold hard truth
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@Shad03 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/393512#Comment_393512
"And Joey’s probably a psychopath"
"And Joey’s probably a psychopath"
"And Joey’s probably a psychopath"
"And Joey’s probably a psychopath"
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-Looks at all the killers that people wanted to do various things to- NI🅱️🅱️A WHAT?!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/9dqy1x/gay_myers_ok/
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@Shad03 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/393512#Comment_393512
"And Joey’s probably a psychopath"
"And Joey’s probably a psychopath"
"And Joey’s probably a psychopath"
"And Joey’s probably a psychopath"
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-Looks at all the killers that people wanted to do various things to- NI🅱️🅱️A WHAT?!
The only psychopath whose booty I would touch is thicc daddy Myers
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No because Julie is ugly and Susie and 16
And Joey’s probably a psychopath
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This was way back in the beginning of the game, before the Nurse even existed. I had a glitch where I was just unable to move, at all, out in the open and completely helpless. The Killer, a Wraith, stood and watched me for a bit, then went off and killed the other Survivors. I thought he was gonna save me for last since killing me then would have wasted time, but instead, he killed everyone else, came back for me, downed me, picked me up, and carried me to the hatch.
What a gamer.
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#########: Frank Morrison because he's a skinny legend
Marry: David King because the inevitable domestic conflict that happens with every marriage will be s p i c y
Kill: Any of the weakest Killers because none of them are fun to play as or against
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I had to
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Here, have DBD Quentin edited to look like movie Quentin
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Quentin Smith’s actor edited to look like DBD Quentin
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The time has come for a DBD tv show gamers
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She not fat she T H I C C
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@Hoodied said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem No it wont, I said it several times not and I am fine
Well other people have and they got yoten upon
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@Peasant said:
Stolen from u/RyGuyTheGingerGuy on Reddit:
I think saying the words “Evil Dead” will get you banned in the official Discord server so be careful
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@PiiFree said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem Now I'd be really interested in playing a KYF against you. I'm sure we can find some other players here willing to join for a full lobby, you're in?
No, I don’t associate with Billy mains.
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@PiiFree said:
I have serious trouble understanding what you're trying to say and I think you completly missed my point here.
Of course there is a huge difference between a 110% ms killer and a 115% ms killer, as I clearly stated: You'll catch up with 0,4m per second instead of 0,6m per second which is a huge difference regarding the strength of said Killer.
But we are not talking about the strength of the Killers, we are talking about the difficulty of controlling a Killer. There is effectively no big difference between chasing a Survivor with a 110% Killer or a 115% Killer, skill-wise.
You press W and chase them. That's it. Time will tell when you catch up and are able to hit them. That's the skill required to control them. Now of course some Killers require more experience and map awareness to play efficiently but that doesn't change the difficulty in controlling them. It's just how a Killer can utilize your knowledge, such as mindgames ect. That's an universal skill requirement for every killer, even legion.
I could go on here and list all the Killers powers and the skill requirements to make use of them just to make a point but I think most players will agree that predicting a chainsaw sprint across the map or hit good jukers with the chainsaw is a lot harder than placing traps or landing M1 hits. Hatchets and blinks are the only things that require more skill, arguably also clown bottles, spirit phase walks and maybe doctor shocks. The rest requires less skill to use compared to chainsaw.
...but I guess in the end you're right, I'm just a really bad Billy and DbD player in general so I actually believe landing a 180° chainsaw spin around the corner takes more skill than hitting a basic M1 attack. Taking personal note of that btw, because I didn't expect you to go personal in a discussion about skill requirements of Killers.
- The speed difference causes a need for extra skill. It hinders you to the point where you NEED to be more maneuverable and much, much better at mindgames than the average 115 Killer to do well, because if you aren’t, you’re going to get clowned on. HARD. Being mechanically the same means nothing in terms of skill requirements. They suffer from a far greater hindrance and need to be better than others to make up for it. So, yes, being a 110 M1 Killer requires more skill at base.
- I’m assuming you’re talking about Hag, since Trapper isn’t even worth arguing about. So having the map knowledge, predictions, and game sense to figure out where Survivors are going to fall into your Hag traps so that setting up isn’t a waste of time is easier than landing a Billy saw? Keeping up your map pressure when the only thing that grants it is Survivors falling for your deceit is harder to pull off than holding M2 to skate across the map in 8 seconds? Using the camera flick that triggered traps force on Survivors to pull them away from loops is easier that revving up a massive instadown hitbox? Sorry, but you’re wrong on every level.
- No, that 180 spin doesn’t take skill. That’s simply knowing the sensitivity of your mouse, not actual mechanical prowess. You don’t need to “flick” for anything to pull that off, especially since the chainsaw’s hitbox on Survivors is so inexcusably huge. Hell, even if you miss, you’ll probably still hit it, considering I’ve hit Survivors not on my screen before.
In short, I’ll put it to you this way: When I’m a level 15 Billy and STILL don’t even need to try at rank 1, even against Survivors that are actually decent, something is up with that character’s skill level in proportion to his effectiveness.
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@PiiFree said:
Please explain to me how hitting the chainsaw is easier than hitting a basic M1 attack. Slower movement speed (the example with Legion) has absolutely no impact regarding difficulty, the only difference is that you catch up with 0,4m per second instead of 0,6m per second.
What makes you think a chase with a 110% ms killer is harder than a chase with a 115% killer? What you do is exactly the same, nothing changes regarding gameplay. But as example of Legion, you can hit people during frenzy and moonwalk them to death so the chase is effectively limited by the time it takes until they bleed out. There is no counter to that, it's straight forward math and facts.
Billy chainsaw, even if arguably still easy to hit, is still a lot more difficult than hitting basic M1 attacks.
Basic M1 attacks are easier to hit because chainsaws can be held for as long as the Survivor isn’t near a loop, and as I discussed before, the chainsaw’s hitbox is so massive to the point where locking into people when they’re behind cover is far from uncommon.
And being a 110 M1 Killer is the exact same as being a 115 M1 Killer? I’m sorry, but that 0.2 meters of difference means everything. If you want to talk straight math, 115 Killers are so called because they move 15% faster than Survivors and 110 Killers because they move 10% faster. This means that the closure rate of a 110 Killer to a running Survivor is only 66% that of a 115 Killer. The pace at which they catch up is nerfed by an entire third.
This third will lead to unsafe loops becoming safe and lunges falling short of their shots that 115 Killers would have easily landed. Even at a small distance, such a large closure rate reduction will remove harsh amounts of mindgame potential and the ability to actually outpace Survivors.
110 Killers are 110 Killers because in their current state, they need to be. With the exception of Legion because he’s garbage, every single 110 Killer would become top-tier if they were 115, even and especially if they already are top tier. If Hag was 115, a good Hag player would be without a doubt better than Nurse in all situations. If Huntress was 115, she would be overpowered. If Spirit was 115, she wouldn’t need to rely on phase-based plays nearly as much.
Being a 110 Killer absolutely makes a difference. I’m sorry, but the fact you genuinely think being a 115 M1 Killer is the same as being a 110 M1 Killer says all that needs to be said. This is why you’re a Billy main. This is why you think Billy takes skill.
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It’s because Jake is the hottest skinny queen on planet Earth, second only to Frank
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@Hoodied said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem real question, *how can you find claudette in the first place*
Somebody just showed us where she was using an outline
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@PiiFree said:
Billy comes with a drawback, you just won't really notice that when playing Survivor because you're so used to it but as Billy those drawbacks are very present.
After a chainsaw sprint you'll get into a recovery cooldown of ~2 seconds in which you can't move or attack. During this short period of time Survivors can easily win additional distance to reach a pallet or window, which is often enough to turn him into a basic M1 Killer. Sprint Burst obviously makes this an even bigger drawback. During a loop, his power can't really be used.
The second drawback is that his chainsaw can very easily be juked unless you have the perfect distance to the Survivor.
- if you're too far, they can easily juke you the moment your sprint starts
- if you're too close, they can relatively easy confuse you and make you miss the chainsaw by pulling quick 360 around you
Whenever you miss a chainsaw, you get in that recovery I mentioned earlier, which is a lot more punishing than just missing a regular hit. You lose more time, you lose bloodlust and in worst case you accidentally hit a nearby objective which will stun you even longer.
Billy does require skill, it just looks very easy to control him when you watch good players but it's not always that easy. Hitting the chainsaw is ultimately only as easy as Survivors allow it to be.
During loops, knowing when to release the chainsaw and move your mouse to spin around obstacles requires perfect timing and I'm talking about miliseconds here. It's definitly not easy.
Also, what makes you think Billy has the "uncontested easiest-to-hit instadown"? Myers EW3 has aimlock with the biggest lunge in the game, you can't juke that. Leatherface can fully control his chainsaw during the sprint and you don't even have to 99%, you can just charge up and release whenever you feel like without having to keep the charge up manually while keeping track of the Survivor.
Did I already mention that I'm highly offended by the content of this thread? I know I did but I wanna throw that out once again :P
#RespectBilbos
My Billy is level 15 and not only do I rarely face any of these issues, but he’s also so easy at rank 1 that I find it more entertaining and engaging to simply Tokyo drift all game than actually kill people. He’s the easiest Killer in the game.
That cooldown drawback is nonexistent, especially when compared to the drawbacks of all the mobile Killers that still have less map pressure than Billy. If you stop a chainsaw next to or even close to a Survivor, they are NOT going to get much distance on you UNLESS they can turn on an Exhaustion Perk.
Also, being an M1 Killer REALLY isn’t all that bad a lot of the time. Sure, a lot of loops are brokenly stupid, but there are so, SO many more chase situations outside of those loops where it really isn’t a big deal. If I can M1 Survivors with Legion, a 110 speed Killer, then you can do it with Billy.
No single chainsaw hit I have EVER earned has felt deserved. The hit box is so absolutely massive that it literally does the work for you. You’ll lock onto Survivors around corners, around trees, and sometimes through solid objects. If you have half-decent aim, it is literally impossible to miss. The ONLY discernible skill I could ever see coming from chainsaw instadowns is having the basic timing knowledge necessary to use it near a vault or pallet and still get the hit. Aside from that, nothing about Billy has ever felt like I ever, EVER need to try.
I genuinely feel I would be putting more skill into Rank 20 Survivor or Frank’s Mixtape Legion than Hillbilly in any given match.
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In order from least to most hated:
- Hillbilly
- Wraith
- Bad Hags
- Doctor
- Spirit
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@Carpemortum said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/069/YXS3HY3RLKAE.jpg
In case anyone STILL wondered.
Okay now that you’ve pointed it out
How in the PHUCC was I supposed to find that
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Here's the main issue I take with Billy:
When a Killer has high mobility and map pressure, it comes at a cost, because that is a very powerful attribute.
Hag? Her mobility and map pressure requires setting up and depends on Survivors falling for it.
Nurse? Her blinks are hard to control and put her into fatigue.
Wraith? He can't attack while cloaked.
Spirit? She can't see Survivors.
Legion? His bonus mobility is literally fake.
Billy, on the other hand, gets the highest map pressure in the game, and not only does it not have any drawbacks to it, but also has the added bonus of having CONSTANT access to the uncontested easiest-to-hit instadown of any Killer.
You can see where the problems would arise.
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@Master said:
Never heard of that before, quick google search lets me guess that this is one of the fluid sugar food they consume in NA
I’m not sure which is worse, the fact that you’ve never heard of Dr. Pepper, or the fact you just called soda “fluid sugar food”.
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im a root beer gamer but Dr Pepper has its merits
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@Caretaker said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/369544#Comment_369544
I just play as if I have double cd. Use power to get the first hit, switch targets if possible. If not, fatigue, chase to M1. I play Susie so she's short, and people forget they normalized lunges, so easy hits. That and I can body block at a pallet if I play it right, and if I want points I'll double stab someone if I have pressure/don't mind the extra sprint and can't find anyone else.
I do all that as well. It’s the closest Legion can come to being actually good.
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@Caretaker said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/369533#Comment_369533
I play Legun, without addons so. I'm done with Billy now that he's maxed. Billy punishes hard, that's what he does. Sniping is pretty spicy though. Always feels so good.
Man, don't you love the way Legion literally gets punished for attempting to play in a skill-based manner? That's my favorite aspect about him, the fact that when Legion's in the game, the Survivors aren't the only ones who aren't allowed to try.
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@Caretaker said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/369516#Comment_369516
My fave part of Billy is hitting a chainsaw, only to have it hit air and watch them run. You win this time Megan.
My fave part of playing Billy is chainsawing someone around a tree, through a wall, over the river and through the woods.
You know, I agree with you when I play Survivor because I actually like the idea of trying. But that's also why I don't play Billy.
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@Caretaker said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/369505#Comment_369505
It's W and M2, and flick thank you very much. Also, can't get hit if you slam a pallet into his face. Or use debris/flick yourself. I don't recommend flicking yourselves kids, leave it to the professionals.
I tried flicking once but the chainsaw's hitbox did the work for me before i had the opportunity
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Low effort photoshop memes are epic amirite
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/369478#Comment_369478
The great meme lord is using my meme! 😱 I feel honored!
I steal memes on a daily basis tbh
If anything you're unlucky
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@Caretaker said:
Yea, cuz running pallet to pallet and teabagging is super difficult amirite? It's why I hardly see Billy at all right?
At least Survivors have to hold shift and w to win
Billy only has to hold M2
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Just gonna leave this here
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Change NOED...
Just a little bit?
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@Chaotic_Riddle said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem Ohhh, I wouldn’t suggest DQ. I worked there for a year and a half and there’s a lot of stuff there that would gross people out. ;0
It’s fast food; my food most likely has human ######### in it. As long as it doesn’t TASTE like it, I’m fine.
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Literally anything other than those two options.
Wendy’s. Five Guys. Whataburger. Dairy Queen. Arby’s. Carl’s Jr. As long as it ain’t either of those two abominations.
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I can’t tell if that man is waiting for a comeback or waiting for me to give him my number.
I think the latter is the most likely outcome either way.
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The phrase “change my mind” is a rhetorical challenge that forewarns any audience members who hope to argue that the rhetor is deeply enthused in their belief, which could possibly imply a deep and thorough knowledge of the subject and thusly is useful as a rhetorical tool.
... Change my mind.
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@Sharmarko said:
How the ######### is susie cute?
She has a creepy ass smile, scars all over her face, ugly shoes, and has blood on her clothes. What part of that is cute?
I would explain it but the Quentin in your pfp is making my eyes boil in their sockets so there’s really no hope for you
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I tried using Dead By Daylight to explore a less kid-friendly side to a famade Pokemon of mine once.
So if you're fine with a crossover as outlandish as that, the link is here:
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@Sharmarko said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/368817#Comment_368817
Good job at attempting to evade point number 4, the strongest one. If a legion is tunneling you, you will not escape that match. As soon as the deep wounds timer is on you, you are marked for death.
As for point 1, its rare for me to ever match up against a Nurse I cannot mindgame. Since it hardly ever happens, I feel like there are barely that many good nurses. Decent ones yes, but they don't end up killing me even if they wanted me dead.
Legion at base takes no skill. Thats the ######### issue. Why would anyone bother learning cool trickshots and tips when they can just spam M1 with no cooldown at 1000% movement speed and get an easy 4k. If you play legion and genuinely dont get a 3k (Hatches dont really count) then you are just bad at pressing M1.
Nobody plays legion without addons. If he's playing naked, then maybe 1 or 2 people will get out. If he is using any half-decent addons then just stop acting like it takes 15 years to down someone when I can do it in 15 seconds.
I did argue point 4, it was simply listed as point three because my device automatically makes it into a bulleted list.
- Then you simply aren't going against good Nurses. I literally don't know what else to tell you. Once you get the muscle memory down, everything else you need to know as Nurse is something you need to know as Nurse in general. Nurse's skill sets that are unique and specific to her are, frankly, really easy, including the mindgames. If you have basic prediction skills, then the muscle memory does half the mindgaming for you.
- Why would you learn how to do all that? Because Legion is the worst Killer in the game if you don't. It's either a 4-hit down, waiting for the 30-second timer to go away if you don't M1. Neither option is fast or efficient in the slightest. That's why. If a Frenzy-spamming Legion ACTUALLY manages to get a 4k, that is ENTIRELY the fault of the Survivors. During that entire time Legion is taking to spam Frenzy for a 4-hit down as well as waiting on fatigue to end and the power to recharge enough, that is more than enough time to get gens done aplenty.
- I play Legion naked all the time and consistently get 3k's and 4k's at rank 1. Don't beleive me? That's fine; I don't believe you when you claim to be able to "never meet a Nurse you couldn't mindgame".
- NO addons are going to help you end a chase faster save for Frank's Mixtape and the Cold Dirt+Joey's Mixtape combo. Outside of that, NONE of his addons will ever substantially aid you in a chase if you rely on Frenzy, because they do nothing to abate the 4-hit downs or 30-second Deep Wound timer. If you're downing people "in 15 seconds" without either of the addons mentioned above, then you're either actually M1'ing—which, if you are, good on you—or you're just flat-out lying because the math of needing to hit them twice, enter a cooldown, recharge Frenzy, hit them a third time, enter a cooldown, recharge Frenzy, and then finally down them on the 4th hit means that downing someone in a time even close to 15 seconds through M1 spam is literally impossible.
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Don't you just love Bubbas?
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@Sharmarko said:
1.) Nurse has counterplay, Legion does not. Legion can miss as many hits as he wants in frenzy mode and not be punished. If a nurse misses her swing, she suffers from an inbuilt stun kit. So point 1 is just wrong.
2.) This is true - do not group up when playing legion.
3.) Legion doesn't take skill. All you have to do is activate frenzy, hold w and spam M1 until everyone is dead. 'Cause remember, you don't get punished for missing attacks or getting mindgamed.
4.) If legion wants you, he does indeed get you. You cannot escape a tunneling legion. They are way faster than you, can go through pallets and windows, and of course can spam M1 so no 360s and no mindgames.
- You know what counters that counter? Being a halfway decent Nurse. The “counterplay” is irrelevant when it can be voided so easily.
- Frenzy spamming takes no skill. Legion at base takes no skill. But if you want to actually do well with Legion at high ranks and get consistent kills across the board, good luck. Using his power to its full effectiveness to create stall and pressure while actually learning to be a 110 M1 Killer (something that, ironically, will end chases much faster and more efficiently than Frenzy spam when mastered) is no easy feat. Regardless of how “uncounterable” it is in a chase, Legion’s Power in terms of actual effectiveness is undertuned to the point of being garbage, and you’re gonna need to take some time learning how to do well with it.
- Being “easy” is not synonymous with being good. Legion is one of the worst Killers in the game, if not the worst if you don’t know how to effectively end chases as a 110 speed Killer. You’re making it out like Legion is an unstoppable force when he abuses Deep Wound when that couldn’t be further from the truth; literally just do gens while he’s taking 15 years to get that 4-hit down he needs to win with Frenzy. It’s not that hard.
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@Arroz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/368788#Comment_368788
Get the hell out of here, you legion main
I’m struggling to take you seriously, partly because I’m unsure if you want me to.
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You’re actually physically using this meme as a form of ad hominem rhetoric instead of just a meme?
I think this’ll be ten times more effective at birth control than being a Legion main.
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if you’re reading this, you know who you are
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@Swiftblade131 said:
I like facing a good nurse, because at least I know they had to practice a bit.
You don't have to practice with Legion lol
Trust me, my son, if you want to consistently get 3k’s and 4k’s as Legion at rank 1, it’s gonna take some learning to figure out how to stop using Frenzy in the most spastic ways possible and actually be effective with it.
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I just have this screenshot of me on Discord and I don’t know why
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Thot patrol DIO here
