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  • plus they want to keep it alive for 5 more years! I guess the hour I’ve watched that boring show was worth it
    in Poggers!!! Dedicated Servers Thank You Sooo Much. Comment by Neska
  • Wolf74 said:

    For sure I am NOT voting for DBD.

    I don’t think i saw DBD on their list for voting, could’ve missed it though
    in So at what time and when we should be expecting DBD announcement at game awards? Comment by Neska
  • If the doors are open and you ain’t camping the exit, which is not always possible anyway to camp all 2/3 exits, and the survivor won’t leave it’s banable as far as I know. It’s a difference if you COULD chase them out and you refuse to, or if they hide and you have little chance to find them though..
    in Would asking a survivor to please leave after the gates are open but you can't find them Comment by Neska
  • at least it’s not as bad as it was like one year ago.. 
    Prestige? Dodge
    Items? Dodge
    Legacy Prestige? Dodge
    Swf? Dodge

    Personally I don’t mind getting dodged, it starts to annoy me after 3 times or more in a row because I just want to play the game instead of searching a lobby all over again.
    in Killers dodging lobbies? Comment by Neska
  • thanks guys, will post it in the bug section :) I just didn’t wanted to post it without knowing if I was missing something :) 
    in Screen goes white after entering clown's gas? Comment by Neska
  • ad19970 said:

    Like totally white? As if you got blinded?

    yes, it gets really blurry, more than normally and then the screen goes white as if I got blinded.. happened with 2 different clowns in 2 different rounds, but it never happened before, so I just wanted to check if he got a buff or something.. it’s really weird that you get chased while you don’t see where you’re running
    in Screen goes white after entering clown's gas? Comment by Neska

  • I love that outfit on her, but I won't use it until it gets fixed.. I think it's kinda sad that the devs don't really care about old cosmetic glitches and rather make new ones.. Meg has a weird stretch on her default outfit, but guess what; it's not getting fixed.. I really hope they fix this stuff at the midchapter patch, but I kinda lost hope at this point

    in Feng Min's Purple Cardigan has been glitched/bugged for months now, no fixing. Comment by Neska
  • that wouldn’t work.. it’s a 4 vs 1 vote for maps with a better chance at surviving.. 
    in Map Voting Comment by Neska

  • @holywhitetrash said:

    @Neska said:

    No Killer has ever asked for 4k every trial, so I'll just ignore what you said after that.

    No Killer asked for a 4k every trial, but many want exactly that..

    of course i want a 4k every game , just like a a survivor wants to escape untouched with everyone else , i dont play a game to not try for the best outcome

    i dont expect to 4k or escape (although i do expect to not get farmed by team mates)

    I never said anything else & I agree with that statement :)

    in Camping is part of the game huh? Comment by Neska

  • @Orion said:

    @Neska said:

    @Orion said:
    Looping exploits the different collision boxes that Survivors and Killers have, thereby (almost) nullifying the speed advantage that Killers should have. Delaying the game is also not an intended tactic by the developers, which is why it's being nerfed.

    I call it playing smart. Going after the person who will take 1 hit to be rehooked with less time than they had before is a smart play. Going after the person who will take 2 hits to be rehooked with a full hook timer is not.

    No Killer has ever asked for 4k every trial, so I'll just ignore what you said after that.

    No Killer asked for a 4k every trial, but many want exactly that..

    Which you know because you're telepathic? Or are you just assuming because you yourself can't adapt to Killers actually being the power role?

    I know that, because many play for the 4k, and I watched enough streamers that main killer & even said that it's not a win for them if they don't get 3-4 kills :) I never said all killers or everyone, I said "many" :)

    in Camping is part of the game huh? Comment by Neska

  • @Orion said:
    Looping exploits the different collision boxes that Survivors and Killers have, thereby (almost) nullifying the speed advantage that Killers should have. Delaying the game is also not an intended tactic by the developers, which is why it's being nerfed.

    I call it playing smart. Going after the person who will take 1 hit to be rehooked with less time than they had before is a smart play. Going after the person who will take 2 hits to be rehooked with a full hook timer is not.

    No Killer has ever asked for 4k every trial, so I'll just ignore what you said after that.

    No Killer asked for a 4k every trial, but many want exactly that..

    in Camping is part of the game huh? Comment by Neska

  • @KillingInstinct said:

    @Neska said:

    @KillingInstinct said:

    @Neska said:

    @Sally55 said:

    @Neska said:
    I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

    It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

    I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

    Isn't it more fun to be a bit scared in a HORROR survival game?

    If I wanna play a horror game, I search for a single player REAL horror game. I played this game for 2k hours now so it won't scare me EVER like it did 2 years ago... sometimes you have a little jumpscare if you jump into the killers arms but that's about it for me personally

    If u wanna play a horror game u play something else? Well this game is branded as a Horror game, so a bug making it scary and making survivors look over their shoulders is pretty cool imo

    They can brand the game as whatever they want, if I'm not scared by it (and oviously nobody is scared of a game after they played it 2 years) then it's not a horror game for me. ofc it was scary when I first picked it up, but as I said after 2 years (2k hours) it's just not & the TR will not change that for me personally. So yes, if I want a horror game I would take a single player game, but since I'm an easy scared person I won't do that.

    in So, when do they fix the tinkerer 2 bug? Comment by Neska

  • @Master said:

    @Neska said:
    It would only be bannable if you could take the game hostage with it or would be able to get to spots that are unreachable, but since it's just a TR bug, it's not bannable.

    In my opinion it's the games/dev's fault if people are capable of using/abusing bugs for their advantage, but don't be surprised if people dc because of it..

    I am used to DCs. Everytime I play doc, survivors pull the cable so fast I cant even laugh as doc :wink:

    I think every player is used to dc's - whether it's a salty killer or a salty survivor - but killer's see a dc in every 2. game I guess, where survivors only see a killer dc if he plays bad and can't catch anyone or if he get's a bad map..

    in Is Tinkerer II Bannable? Comment by Neska

  • @Master said:

    @Neska said:

    @Master said:

    @Neska said:

    @Master said:

    @Neska said:

    @Master said:

    @Neska said:

    @Sally55 said:

    @Neska said:
    I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

    It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

    I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

    Surivors still abuse DS, for years now and still its not fixed yet

    are you for real? using a perk that works how intended is not abusing something. Having a perk that is op and needed a nerf a long time ago (still needs the nerf) has nothing to do with a bugged perk that needs a hotfix rather than a fix weeks later, especially if they already have a fix for it internally, after all we're talking about the dev's that put updates just for translation fixes out..

    But equipping tinkerer 2 is a bad thing?
    And honestly, in the days of SWF, no terror radius does less than 4x DS does, at least if we talk about competent survivors

    If you pick it because it's bugged and you're using the advatage of not having a TR then yes, it's a bad thing.

    You can't compare this with swf/ 4x DS because

    1. I don't use DS - I have no interest in getting dribbled to every hook or in other words; have my perk denied.
    2. I only play solo or as a 2 man swf at max. and we both never used ds or items for that matter.
    3. as much swf players there are, there are just as much solo players out there & just because you get the swf groups all the time as a killer (I know that feeling believe me, it's really frustarting when they bully you around the map and the moment you play survivor you have the potatoes in your team because the good players only play swf apparently) doesn't mean there aren't any solo players that rely on the TR during the match (especially while saving someone off the hook)

    I dont care what you say, whether you play solo or whatever. fact is that 4x DS in a SWF is utterly broken and the devs realized it and promised us to nerf it.

    Tinkerer 2 has way less impact on the game, still you cry for an immediate fix.

    At the moment both tinkerer 2 and DS are broken perks that are waiting for a fix, fact is that I NEVER occured a tinkerer 2 killer, but DS is used EVERY game (I play 50/50 killer/surv atm)

    I could also say that I am a bad killer so its fine if I use tinkerer 2 (survivor logic)

    you're still comparing a perk that is working as it should, with a perk that does NOT work as it should.
    and now that you say it; I NEVER occured a 4x swf group, even at rank 1.

    If you have nothing else to say, other than letting out your frustration of ds, I wish you much fun in your games, and since you apparently get all the time 4x ds swf groups, I cross my fingers that you don't get them as often. Have a nice day.

    Thats exactly my point. DS is not how it should be. Devs admitted that it is broken and it will receive a nerf.
    You never occured a 4x SWF? Well guess you dont play killer lol, ofc you dont understand the frustration about DS then

    God, really? I said I never had a 4 man swf group where every single member used ds, which is what you stated happens all the time to you. I had games with 1-2 ds, but that's about it & yes, if I can I dribble them to the hook just like every other killer would. For the "broken" part; there is a clear difference between broken as in; overpowered and in broken as; not working as intended.

    in So, when do they fix the tinkerer 2 bug? Comment by Neska

  • It would only be bannable if you could take the game hostage with it or would be able to get to spots that are unreachable, but since it's just a TR bug, it's not bannable.

    In my opinion it's the games/dev's fault if people are capable of using/abusing bugs for their advantage, but don't be surprised if people dc because of it..

    in Is Tinkerer II Bannable? Comment by Neska

  • @Master said:

    @Neska said:

    @Master said:

    @Neska said:

    @Master said:

    @Neska said:

    @Sally55 said:

    @Neska said:
    I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

    It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

    I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

    Surivors still abuse DS, for years now and still its not fixed yet

    are you for real? using a perk that works how intended is not abusing something. Having a perk that is op and needed a nerf a long time ago (still needs the nerf) has nothing to do with a bugged perk that needs a hotfix rather than a fix weeks later, especially if they already have a fix for it internally, after all we're talking about the dev's that put updates just for translation fixes out..

    But equipping tinkerer 2 is a bad thing?
    And honestly, in the days of SWF, no terror radius does less than 4x DS does, at least if we talk about competent survivors

    If you pick it because it's bugged and you're using the advatage of not having a TR then yes, it's a bad thing.

    You can't compare this with swf/ 4x DS because

    1. I don't use DS - I have no interest in getting dribbled to every hook or in other words; have my perk denied.
    2. I only play solo or as a 2 man swf at max. and we both never used ds or items for that matter.
    3. as much swf players there are, there are just as much solo players out there & just because you get the swf groups all the time as a killer (I know that feeling believe me, it's really frustarting when they bully you around the map and the moment you play survivor you have the potatoes in your team because the good players only play swf apparently) doesn't mean there aren't any solo players that rely on the TR during the match (especially while saving someone off the hook)

    I dont care what you say, whether you play solo or whatever. fact is that 4x DS in a SWF is utterly broken and the devs realized it and promised us to nerf it.

    Tinkerer 2 has way less impact on the game, still you cry for an immediate fix.

    At the moment both tinkerer 2 and DS are broken perks that are waiting for a fix, fact is that I NEVER occured a tinkerer 2 killer, but DS is used EVERY game (I play 50/50 killer/surv atm)

    I could also say that I am a bad killer so its fine if I use tinkerer 2 (survivor logic)

    you're still comparing a perk that is working as it should, with a perk that does NOT work as it should.
    and now that you say it; I NEVER occured a 4x swf group, even at rank 1.

    If you have nothing else to say, other than letting out your frustration of ds, I wish you much fun in your games, and since you apparently get all the time 4x ds swf groups, I cross my fingers that you don't get them as often. Have a nice day.

    in So, when do they fix the tinkerer 2 bug? Comment by Neska

  • @Master said:

    @Neska said:

    @Master said:

    @Neska said:

    @Sally55 said:

    @Neska said:
    I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

    It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

    I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

    Surivors still abuse DS, for years now and still its not fixed yet

    are you for real? using a perk that works how intended is not abusing something. Having a perk that is op and needed a nerf a long time ago (still needs the nerf) has nothing to do with a bugged perk that needs a hotfix rather than a fix weeks later, especially if they already have a fix for it internally, after all we're talking about the dev's that put updates just for translation fixes out..

    But equipping tinkerer 2 is a bad thing?
    And honestly, in the days of SWF, no terror radius does less than 4x DS does, at least if we talk about competent survivors

    If you pick it because it's bugged and you're using the advatage of not having a TR then yes, it's a bad thing.

    You can't compare this with swf/ 4x DS because

    1. I don't use DS - I have no interest in getting dribbled to every hook or in other words; have my perk denied.
    2. I only play solo or as a 2 man swf at max. and we both never used ds or items for that matter.
    3. as much swf players there are, there are just as much solo players out there & just because you get the swf groups all the time as a killer (I know that feeling believe me, it's really frustarting when they bully you around the map and the moment you play survivor you have the potatoes in your team because the good players only play swf apparently) doesn't mean there aren't any solo players that rely on the TR during the match (especially while saving someone off the hook)
    in So, when do they fix the tinkerer 2 bug? Comment by Neska

  • @Master said:

    @Neska said:

    @Sally55 said:

    @Neska said:
    I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

    It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

    I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

    Surivors still abuse DS, for years now and still its not fixed yet

    are you for real? using a perk that works how intended is not abusing something. Having a perk that is op and needed a nerf a long time ago (still needs the nerf) has nothing to do with a bugged perk that needs a hotfix rather than a fix weeks later, especially if they already have a fix for it internally, after all we're talking about the dev's that put updates just for translation fixes out..

    in So, when do they fix the tinkerer 2 bug? Comment by Neska

  • And for all the other people: I never said it's unplayable, but the TR is in this game for a reason & you can change it for a reason and to not have it is just as bad as some bugs survivors have abused in the past. It's not fun and I play games for fun and nothing else. I just said that I hate it that people abuse this bug INTENTIONALLY. Why take insidous for "camping" when you have a 2 in 1 perk for that atm? people who don't know about this bug wouldn't do that because they wouldn't know they don't have a TR, but you can clearly see if someone does it on purpose because he knows.. And I don't know why, but since the 2.0 update survivors play like dead potatoes, so no it's not fun to have a "scare" when 50% crawl and hide all game because of it and the other 50% don't even know what's going on and die left and right.

    For example I remember the bug were survivors got 8k points for stunning a killer once. That got fixed in a hotfix update THE SAME DAY! While bugs like these (which, like some people say, are apparently fixed internally) don't get hotfixes and nobody cares about them. That's all I wanted to say and that's purely my opinion and I have no problem with the fact that you have a different opinion on things like this..

    in So, when do they fix the tinkerer 2 bug? Comment by Neska

  • @Esheon said:
    GhostEuant said:


    Neska said:

    @GhostEuant said:

    Wait... what Tinkerer 2 bug? Asking cus that’s what I have on my Billy and I don’t want to unintentionally abuse it. 

    After tinkerer first get's activated the killer has no heartbeat for the rest of the match instead of just for 10 seconds like it should be.. and some killer might not know that, because not everyone reads the forum/bug reports, but some use the perk BECAUSE it's bugged..

    Oh that’s crazy. Well I won’t use it then. 

    It's only Tinkerer 2 that's bugged. If you upgrade it to tier 3 it's fine.

    nobody that abuses this perk intentionally upgrades to Tinkerer 3 though.

    in So, when do they fix the tinkerer 2 bug? Comment by Neska

  • @Bravo0413 said:
    I dont wanna hear "oh killers get to abuse the hell out bugs etc..." we went like 3+ months without survivor breathing and footsteps and scratch marks being just stupid.. while the issues with the TR Was fixed overnight prettymuch

    That was nothing we as survivors could've changed. That was fully on the game and there was nothing survivors could've done to fix that, so you can't even compare that to this bug.

    in So, when do they fix the tinkerer 2 bug? Comment by Neska

  • @KillingInstinct said:

    @Neska said:

    @Sally55 said:

    @Neska said:
    I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

    It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

    I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

    Isn't it more fun to be a bit scared in a HORROR survival game?

    If I wanna play a horror game, I search for a single player REAL horror game. I played this game for 2k hours now so it won't scare me EVER like it did 2 years ago... sometimes you have a little jumpscare if you jump into the killers arms but that's about it for me personally

    in So, when do they fix the tinkerer 2 bug? Comment by Neska

  • @nooxet said:
    Didn't they hotfix this on PC already? I thought they said it on stream it will be done ASAP.

    no, they didn't.. sadly..

    in So, when do they fix the tinkerer 2 bug? Comment by Neska

  • @GhostEuant said:
    Wait... what Tinkerer 2 bug? Asking cus that’s what I have on my Billy and I don’t want to unintentionally abuse it. 

    After tinkerer first get's activated the killer has no heartbeat for the rest of the match instead of just for 10 seconds like it should be.. and some killer might not know that, because not everyone reads the forum/bug reports, but some use the perk BECAUSE it's bugged..

    in So, when do they fix the tinkerer 2 bug? Comment by Neska

  • @Sally55 said:

    @Neska said:
    I don't know why the tinkerer 2 bug isn't already fixed?! Personally I find it kind of ironic that bugs for survivors (or abusing those bugs) will result in a quick hotfix or temp bans while Killers are allowed to abuse the perk and it's just not getting fixed?

    It's probably going to launch with the 2nd bloodhunt event next month.

    I hope so.. I'm really sick of killer abusing that perk.. I had that like 5 times in a row.. at that point I just left/let them kill me if they had it..

    in So, when do they fix the tinkerer 2 bug? Comment by Neska
  • someone posted a screenshot in another thread where he was an afk killer with 0 points and he still got the ~500 player xp.. I think it depends on how long the game lasted or if you played until the end.  points doesn’t matter and the 18 emblem xp are a joke.. 
    in How can i get these shards quick ? Comment by Neska
  • it’s bad enough that they always start the double bp  at 1am (for me) so i don’t even get to play when double bp start but now they delay it a whole day.. it was always live on friday to monday (tuesday 1am for me) .. they could’ve at least change the time when they delay it a day.. 
    in So when is the Double Blood Point Event Comment by Neska
  • Jack11803 said:

    @Neska said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Neska said:

    I think i’m a game where everybody want survivors to play stealthy, very survivor should get outfits like that.. but killers always complain, that’s why they made the black L4D shirt unglaublich with that red on it, because people complained it’s too dark especially if it’s a claudette..

    One thing is being able to hide from the killer and a completely different is being invisible on certain maps. I had a match as claudette and was hiding in tall grass in front of the shack. Trapper came and set a trap at my position without seing me, then the trap snapped.

    they have the red light to see you.. if he’s not looking down it’s his fault.. had many killers that saw me hiding just because of their red light 

    Killers can’t see that light, only survivors and Doctor

    okay, you’re right. I don’t play killer too often and just assumed that because as I said it seems like killers would only see me because of their light.. but still as I said it’s supposed to be a hiding game right? but if survivors can’t really hide it’s pointless and they loop all day.. that’s just my opinion and you obviously can have another one :) 
    in Claudettes Cosmetics too dark. Comment by Neska
  • Tsulan said:

    @Neska said:
    I think i’m a game where everybody want survivors to play stealthy, very survivor should get outfits like that.. but killers always complain, that’s why they made the black L4D shirt unglaublich with that red on it, because people complained it’s too dark especially if it’s a claudette..

    One thing is being able to hide from the killer and a completely different is being invisible on certain maps. I had a match as claudette and was hiding in tall grass in front of the shack. Trapper came and set a trap at my position without seing me, then the trap snapped.

    they have the red light to see you.. if he’s not looking down it’s his fault.. had many killers that saw me hiding just because of their red light 
    in Claudettes Cosmetics too dark. Comment by Neska
  • I think i’m a game where everybody want survivors to play stealthy, every survivor should get outfits like that.. but killers always complain, that’s why they changed the black L4D shirt and put that red on it, because people complained it’s too dark especially if it’s a claudette..
    in Claudettes Cosmetics too dark. Comment by Neska
  • 51uk4y said:

    I think it's bannable.

    Botting
    Killer spawns and stays at one place, hitting air the whole time. He doesn’t move or change the hit pattern even if gates are opened and some of the Survivors are already gone. Video of the match (showing the tally screen is crucial) is mandatory.

    If this is bannable (a permanant ban), then going completely AFK might be more likely to get banned.

    Botting is bannable because you get bloodpoints out of it & back in the day every 3rd match was a bot match, so they had to do something against that. But if you go afk you don’t get anything out of it if the survivors are not running for boldness points their round in front of you, but if you play as Freddy they can’t really do that. If you play as any other killer (besides wraith) they could to that so they will get points as well as you (obv. your points at the end wouldn’t be more than 8k max) and since that would be an easy pip for survivors as well as easy points I’m not so sure they would really care enough to report you with a report system, where reports go directly into the dumpster  lol
    in DEV HELP PLEASE - AFK Wraith/Freddy O_O Comment by Neska
  • Raccoon said:

    @Neska said:
    Raccoon said:

    What part of my question inferred that I wanted to report someone?

    what part of it stated otherwise? but I guess you’re right, you didn’t say that.. maybe it’s because everyone wants to report everyone these days that we jump on these kind of conclusions, but you could’ve wrote the question with a bit more detail there, then other people would’ve known what you really wanted to know without further asking 

    Can you tell me if it is a reportable offense?

    No, because I’m not a mod, so my guess is as good as yours, but I don’t think you would get banned.. 
    in DEV HELP PLEASE - AFK Wraith/Freddy O_O Comment by Neska
  • Raccoon said:

    What part of my question inferred that I wanted to report someone?

    what part of it stated otherwise? but I guess you’re right, you didn’t say that.. maybe it’s because everyone wants to report everyone these days that we jump on these kind of conclusions, but you could’ve wrote the question with a bit more detail there, then other people would’ve known what you really wanted to know without further asking 
    in DEV HELP PLEASE - AFK Wraith/Freddy O_O Comment by Neska
  • Raccoon said:

    If I'm the "you're" you're referring to, why would I report myself?

    So you wanted to know if you’re allowed to go as a afk killer? then write that next time. from what you wrote we were guessing that you wanted to report an afk killer.
    in DEV HELP PLEASE - AFK Wraith/Freddy O_O Comment by Neska

  • The problem is, that if nobody loops, and killers play like they do now (camping for example) 90% would die and won't pip or get points, because saves would not be possible.. now imagine you wouldn't be able to loop & the killer would never camp and instead check on generators & the other survivors could save the hooked person.. the killer would get kills because he get's the survivor faster and the gens wouldn't be done so fast & the survivors would get pips & points (even though they might died) and nobody would complaint.. but that would never happen because both sides just play so the other side gets nothing out of it.. you can't take something from one side so they have nothing when the other side doesn't give them a chance for it..

    It's just my opinion btw & you can totally have another, just wanted to say :)

    in Pallet looping needs to die. Comment by Neska

  • Always played Meg since release, but I like to play as Feng & Nea just as much.. maybe Kate will end on my "most liked survivor" list too

    in Who is your favourite original survivor? Comment by Neska
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