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@Tucking_Friggered said:
@Giddawid said:
@KingB said:
The more threads there are the more the devs will listen. Persistence is key.Sometimes, one good thread is all it takes; with a good discussion, the pros and cons, the change itself, pros and cons of the change, and a summary of why it would improve the game. Aim for quality over quantity.
And yes, we are always happy to listen to your feedback
There is no way you said that with a straight face. I bet you had the office laughing like hyenas.
Such respect for their paying customers LUL.
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@SenzuDuck said:
Or are you continuing your method of making things up and hoping no one realises?
Accusing peoples for what you are exactly doing at the moment.
98% of your posts can be summarized by this :
I'm gonna add that there are more insults in them and they sound even more condescending than in the past.
But yet, here you are, never banned...
Speak a lot about how this community and this game are handled lul.
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@Nickenzie said:
Oh yes, let's assume every survivor is a try hard and every SWF is the depip squad. You get a gold star for assuming the absolute worst about every survivor.
There are way enought of them for it to be a problem.
I'm also gonna add that there is no need of "SWF try-hard SWAT teams" for SWF to already be a problem.
In regard of the importance of informations and how efficiently they can be communicated, balance wise.
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@twistedmonkey said:
All these replies just prove my point, dodging for anything that is accepted is just because you think it's unfair and not fun.The devs accept voice chat, the devs could easily disable swf if they believe it is not meant to work that way, the devs willl not as playing with friends and voice chat go hand in hand and it would impact sales, that's the bottom line it IS part of the game third party program or not.
You want to keep cherry picking games and try to justify it nothing else, yes swf is unbalanced but it's a game and everything in it accepted should be fair game, the devs need to sort it it is not on the players to decide that and to think otherwise is just using an excuse to fit your narative.
Keep dodging though as like they did with those survivors who abused it as it was rh right thing to do the ability will be taken away from killers as well, you will then threaten to leave and say the queues will become long but in the end like all of what has been complained about in the past the game will go on and those of us that do accept the game as is flaws and all.
The decent players will continue to give feedback and the stats needed by playing each and every game helping the game become better without stamping our feet and cherry picking games pouting behind a monitor stating thats unfair.
Devs said back then that "Infinite take skill" to please the majority (temporaly of course).
Couple that with their in game store...
Nothing else too add.
(Such greed tho...)
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@twistedmonkey said:
Why do you think you have the right to dodge for something accepted by the devs just because you deem it's unfair?
Because the game is unbalanced in favor of survivors.
Denying it or not mentioning it so it fit your narrative is being disingenious.
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Can't really play killer while drunk, it give me more headaches than anything else.
Whereas as survivor... it nearly improve my gameplay lul.
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Would be a cool feature against some AI killers.
Obviously not when you face also real persons, as much paying customers than you, whether the side he play.
Someone can't get shits throwed at him forever without him reacting at some points.
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@Nickenzie said:
You're not entitled to a win anyways and besides, why not take a challenge for once? It's how you improve and when you go against survivors that you know won't pose not even a challenge to you, then why even play killer at that point? Sure, if you want a relaxing game that's understandable, but why play killer if that relaxing game will never happen because your idea of a relaxed game is when survivors don't use certain items, perks, add-ons, and skins? You minus well play survivor at that point and quit wasting the time of survivors who actually wanna play a game, ya know?
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@Master said:
Just no fun atm, either you are genrushed or some toxic SWF wants to make you feel terrible.
Even if you 4k them with ease, I dont feel like a powerful killer that has achieved sth since I know very well how bad the survivors played for this to happen.
Also the broken ranking system doesnt help either.Amen !
Honestly ?
I recently realized that i nearly only played during the halloweed blight event last year.
Like, maybe 40 hours for the whole 2018.
Speak for itself, since it's still (sadly) one of my favorite game, but at least i realized it's mostly due to the lack of real competitor for this genre, and i always gave props to their artistic department ( killer's appearance, etc...)
Still wasn't enought for me to keep the will to still play.
Pig's release (and all the bugs that came with it, staying in the games for a moment of course) started my break, after Freddy's fiasco and the usual bugged game during the winter, i already got enought of this shits.
Wanted to go back for Clown's release, he looked cool, Devs promised major changes...
...and the in-game store was the last straw.
Only played the halloweed blight event because the skins looked amazing and only costed some playtime.
Completed my Legacy I Trapper and took my 3 other favorite skins from differents killers.Never really returned back since then.
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@Master said:
But on the other hand Im not even really playing right now anymore....
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@Vietfox said:
DocOctober said:Fix the causes of lobby dodging first.
^ Lol, lobby dodger spotted.
All they need to do is grow some balls.
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@BACKSTABBER said:
How does it feel when a killer or surv QQ so much cuz you make them fail their adept achievement?should I feel bad? how ridiculous~~
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@NekoGamerX said:
it maybe poor matchmaking or it was a SWF group.It's SWF.
The actual matchmaking only take the SWF host's rank into account.
So if you are rank 20 and you invite your rank 1 friends, you will still be matched against a rank 20-15 killer.
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@Dark_Whorse said:
I don't even know what to do about them anymore, if my game isn't a 3 man these days from the ######### servers DCing someone mid match it's a game against people who have hundreds of hours on me all communicating together. Gotten to the point that I am no longer having fun playing Killer, and I don't enjoy Survivor, this has pushed me to the edge of uninstalling with how utterly frustrating dealing with SWFs is. I'm a Pig main, obviously by the avatar choice, and now that I've been playing through the purple ranks and dealing with mostly red rank parties (just got destroyed by 3 red ranks and a rank 19 SWF); I have to ask myself is it even worth playing?This game seems to encourage a Peter principle when it comes to playing, as I'm now running into players that playing and winning against is a chore in and of itself. "Git gud" is the usual answer here, but if getting better just means I eventually hit the red ranks and am stuck in nothing but frustrating matches with no alternatives other than to play some busted killer to do well instead of one I enjoy, I don't see why I should bother playing my heart out.
Is there anything I can even do to beat SWFs that are all spread out and working together, letting each other know when I'm in a chase so they can work on gens, or blinding me and running perfect loops. It seems like as soon as I knock one down, a generator goes off across the map or my totem explodes, and I have to choose between dealing with that person who is down and also more than likely has their flashlight friend running up to blind me or their toolbox buddy sabo'ing the hooks, or trying to put pressure on my gens.
TL;DR: This sucks, I'm not having fun anymore because of SWFs and the ranking system. What can I do?
It's been years that peoples complains about it, nothing new, and i feel you.
Here's the Dev's official answer to this complaint :
That's what i have done a long time ago, and it seems that some peoples got the same idea, in regard of all these "Lobby dodging/Lobby simulator" threads popping everywhere.
The irony is tasting good at least !
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@PiiFree said:
Played killer all night yesterday, straight from Rank 9 to Rank 1.Only dodged a handful of times due to ping, but it's no surprise to me that Killers pay more attention to who they're playing against.
Not a single lobby without SWF, always at least one DS (not even kidding here) and the gen rush is absolutely insane because of the event. I also noticed that many map offerings like badham preschool or black water swamp are played.
Look, I know it's annoying to constantly get dodged but if you keep going to make it as hard as possible for Killers to get their event points, you gotta expect that people start to cherry pick to increase the chance of success. They're not trying to get easy matches, they're trying to get FAIR matches.
"NO THEY JUST WANT EZ 4K HUUR DUUUR !"
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@Tzeentchling9 said:
Bongbingbing said:Obviously it is.
Even casual SWF will know whats happening most of the time all it takes is small something like "he's on me", "Oh killer left me" or "totems here" and things most people will usually say when playing casual or not.
1000% this. All these bullshit "Oh, we only play CaSuAlLy" excuses mean totally nothing. Unless you are playing with your mics turned off and tape over your mouths, that is total bullshit. ANYTHING mentioned over the mic is information YOU ARE NOT INTENDED TO HAVE!
@Nickenzie said:
@PinkEricka
I have to agree, not every SWF is an absolute commando unit! I lose 1 in every 10 SWF games because most SWF just wanna hangout with their friends, ya know?A lot of killer mains, not all, are so histrionic about SWF games that it's outrageous to see the things. Perhaps if they looked at their mistakes rather than complaining, then less players will see that SWF isn't all that bad.
To summarize the actual game state :
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@Thaznar said:
If the devs have any degree of integrity left in them they should go with the change to DS.
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I'm personally more amused to see that you all still believe/hope it will eventually come one day.
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@Nickenzie said:
@Rebel_Raven
Translation: (Histrionics => English)
"Every SWF is a commando unit waiting to waste me including the SWF who just wanna chill with their friends. Furthermore, I'll get bullied by every SWF even through some of those games might be my fault due to my mistakes and not because they are a SWF. Nickenzie is a dirty tryhard sweaty survivor who wants smurfs to bully lower ranked players and want killers to suffer so he's also @SenzuDuck follower, ignore him!"To recap: (Unpopular opinion) Not every SWF is a commando unit so please stop with the exaggeration that every SWF is one. Furthermore, I lose on average 1 in 10 SWF games (depip) because the majority aren't the depip squad. Lastly, I obviously don't advocate smurfs to bully lower levels so please do not put words into my mouth. If you disagree, perhaps tell me some things you'll change to make it better instead of assuming the absolute worst about me.
Looks like you finally accepted all the survivors mains shenaningans.
If you can't beat them, join them i guess ?
LUL.
Yes we know :
"not all swf iz a SWAT team, u baby killer crybaby, SWF iz here to stay so suck it up !"
(To summarize all these posts)
Hope you enjoy the Lobby simulator too.
Because most killer players are not, and don't want to be the survivor's bitches, they will simply leave like it's already the case.
One can only endure a certain amount of bullshits, it's natural.
I guess survivors will finally be able to repair their generator in peace !
What ?
Wasn't the final goal ?
But why doing all this to... whatever ^^"
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Sorry i prefer Friday the 13th
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I got PTSD from 2016's Dead by daylight by watching this.
Look like things never change as usual.
@Chi said:
Eh, it compensates for the dead areas right outside of it.See ?
Even peoples excusing/defending it, like in the past.
Bwhahahahahaha
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@PiiFree said:
Where ignorance is bliss...
I hope you realize that you are the root of the problem you constantly face? And now you're basically asking Killers to have empathy with you for those waiting times.
Can't lie, I'm fascinated by that logic!
I imagine them like this while reading :
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@Nickenzie said:
Increase re-queue times when you dodge or leave a lobby.
First: 15 seconds
Second: 30 seconds
Third: 1 minute
Fourth: 5 minutes
Fifth: 10 minutes
Etc etc etc...You know what ?
I actually think it could be good to add this into the game.
Really, with this at least, the last few peoples willing to play killer would finally stop playing, and the Devs will maybe finally do something.
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@SenzuDuck said:
And so what if they "have trouble" killing them? I have trouble killing solo players too, why should killing be a cake walk and surviving be impossible?
you're acting as if working for your kills should be abolished and it should all be handed to you, it's utterly ridiculous.
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And this, kids, is called a strawman
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@NathanExplosion said:
@Poweas said:
@NathanExplosion said:
They're all rodeo clowns for survivors, except Nurse.What's your point OP ?
Except Billy, Hag/Spirit. The top tier killers are never rodeo clowns, they're dominant as hell.
I agree that these 3 are indeed top tier compared to the others.
But against an optimal survivor team, only Nurse stand a chance, and even there it's tedious.
Buffing the lower-tier to Billy's level would be a good start, indeed.
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@Orion said:
One of them already said they wouldn't do it. We should take to the streets shirtless as a form of protest and post shirtless selfies here! I won't because I'm busy, but you guys go on ahead!
Yeah go on !
For protest... of course !
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@TheBean said:
Now what?... Doesn't matter... Neither of us have anything to prove to one another. That is the way it is.
All I have to say is... "Suck it up buttercup, SWF is here to stay, don't like it, then don't play."
That's already the case no worries, and it looks like a bunch of peoples shared the same idea.
Remember this thread, so we can come back to it one day. I want to see which side will be disappointed.
Agree, and i think it will come sooner than you think
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@TheBean said:
Well sucks to be them then.
I've been under the assumption that EU and ASIA are 2 of the biggest populations, but I'm wrong. BHVR has gone out of it way to include Asian specific content into their game... has made some convention trips to Asian countries.. but since they have a low population.. why would they do that?
When I look during say 12 noon EST, I see the biggest size of the population during this time in DBD. Is that all Chinese players or EU?.... It isn't North America cause their peak times won't be till around 6 to 8 PM EST or evening time, which is when you will see a dip in the population. There is less people playing in North America during it's peak times then there are during its non peak times. So who is making up that other portion of the population?
Keep up with the condescending attitude you seems to share with a good portion of the survivor population.
That will definitely give to other peoples the will to play with you, of course.
Hence the current game's state.
No matter how much you all deny it
And here i am, tasting this sweet irony with a zest of karma
Yee... I navigate those on a daily basis.. Sorry not seeing what you see. The most of the posts I see on a daily basis are ones like this, where it is the same players over and over stroking each other with the SWF tissues.
Same here, and i didn't see the same.
Now what ?
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@Chicken said:
how is that balanced? or are you goin to tell me to "git gud" like a p3 claudette main?
Still waiting for them to finally release this avatar :
Pretty sure some peoples would enjoy it, and would also totally fit.
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@friendlykillermain said:
@ArkhamRobot said:
From a fellow killer (main), I have to agree that this event is encouraging gen rushing more than ever. Just for the coins. So I've caved and playing survivor now for the remainder of the event. Quite fun actually !Will return as killer once the event is over and folks start to play team-driven again.
you have forsaken your true self we killer mains stand proud and tall and we never switch to survivors even if it is easier i hope you change your ways good sir
And he shall smite the wicked and send them into the firey pit !
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@Vietfox said:
Well yeah, but there's no way to be a powerful monster if the player behind it isn't skilled.
Were those killer players expecting to be fed with a baby spoon? That's cute.I saw better bait coming from you.
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@friendlykillermain said:
poor trapper always shafted
You are damn right !
Better putting an end to this :
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@friendlykillermain said:
that sucks i love trapper his play style is the most enjoyable and nothing is more satisfying then when you successfully pull off a trap whether it be a false chase or random odds however swf completely neuters him
2,5 years old Trapper main here o/
Here have a cookie, that's all you'll get for it.
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@TheBean said:
That is weird.. I play mostly survivor and live in Canada... Never any issues getting lobbies for survivors over the past few months. Killer lobbies...this is where my wait is.
EU, West America and Asian server want a word with you.
Yee... And the large portion of lobby simulator posts I see... Since I'm usually on these forums daily... Are those complaining about lobby dodging... Killers waiting over 10 minutes for survivors.
I rarely ever see a post about survivors not getting into killer lobbies unless they are in some country that doesn't have many players in it and they keep getting red ping lobbies, or dodged all the time cause they are in a SWF.
While there was indeed threads like you described, this is definitely not the "large majority" of of the threads about Lobby simulator.
Peoples could simply witness this by navigating between this forum and the Steam/Reddit ones.
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@TheBean said:
You serious?... I think we've been playing different games then.
I never had any issues or time waits getting into a lobby as survivor... Not before the event.
I was with killer though... getting several minute wait times.
Now with the event.. I get instant lobbies as killer... but not as survivor, but maybe only 30 second wait.
So I'm not sure what game you've been playing before the event. I was having no issues getting a lobby as survivor. Barely even ever dodged too.
I wonder too.
Killer lobby are instant since Hallowed's blight ended.
While the waiting time only increased for survivors since December, to the current proportion.
All these "Lobby simulator" threads popping on every forums since then are not coming from nowhere.
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@TheBean said:
The issue with the event is, it is easier for survivors to get the points for progression than killers. This is why you see more killer "mains" playing as survivors. The population doesn't have a shortage of players... It has a shortage of players who want to play killers during this event.
That was already the case before the event, weird huh ?
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@TheBean said:
I actually am happy more and more killers are dodging. Best thing to route out the dodgers... You remove their ability to see anything in the lobby anymore other then 4 other players... That is it. Nothing else. Then the lobby dodgers stop playing. The queues get better. More people enjoy the game because of bullshit like lobby dodgers. <---- This is what will happen to killers... so keep on dodging.
I think you will be disapointed.
And gosh, the salt is real, i don't think you're as confident in the current game state than you pretend to be.
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@TheBean said:
Yeee... I understand why killers want to dodge them. However giving killers another reason to be selective on their dodging won't fix lobby dodging and make the game better for people.
I can already feel that for you it's nothing more that "Baby killerino tearz"
I don't think the Devs would want to make a choice of... Make it better for a handful of players while ruining the experience for another handful, when the one handful of players, SWF, far out number the other side. Why choose the side with the most players that would be effected? Especially when it isn't their fault that they want to play with friends, which is a feature included in the game. Just because they use VOIP which is upsetting some killers?
Why some peoples should play this side then ?
Knowing that because you can't "offend" the majority nothing will change and that you have to suck it up ?I guess you just want to ruin the game for a big portion of the community simply because you can't suck it up and play the game like many others are doing.
This is what has been applied for a long time now.
Hope you're enjoying the current Lobby simulator too.
It's been nearly 2 months that it was "released", can't stop laughting since then
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@MegMain98 said:
Not every killer will be nor needs to be on Nurse/Billy level. Tell me how exactly Freddy or Wraith will EVER be as powerful as those two? Their powers are just not as good as top tier killers. If they stand any chance of being buffed it needs to be their OWN power that gets the buff. Not a general killer buff. Nurse and Billy don’t need it, Freddy and Wraith do.
Sorry if I may have misunderstood you, but that is how I interpreted it.
Of course i'm talking about changing them individually to, at least, close the gap between them and Billy.
I know that everyone of them are different and that they can't mechanically all be at this level, but i also know for sure that actually the difference is so big that it's laughtable.
But hey, knowing these Devs, i know it's not gonna happen ^^
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@Tsulan said:
Oh yes!
I was tempted to post a civ 5 reference.I think this one will solve you a lot of times in the future
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@Poweas said:
@NathanExplosion said:
They're all rodeo clowns for survivors, except Nurse.What's your point OP ?
Except Billy, Hag/Spirit. The top tier killers are never rodeo clowns, they're dominant as hell.
I agree that these 3 are indeed top tier compared to the others.
But against an optimal survivor team, only Nurse stand a chance, and even there it's tedious.
Buffing the lower-tier to Billy's level would be a good start, indeed.
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@SenzuDuck said:
SWF Players are the majority - but you shouldn't be able to cherry pick, 2 players playing together aren't communicating with the whole team, are they?
According to out of date depip squad data that people keep referring back to as if their haven't been any killer buffs since then, according to 4000+ hour players that were better than most killers... almost no teams are playing the way they did, they aren't all running dstrike and unbreakable, I bet you could go play 100 matches today and not see a single game with all that stuff in it.
You should not be balancing a game around 1% of matches.
of course everything I said was TOTALLY disingenuous, right?
Yes we know, you're right !
Hope you enjoy the current Lobby simulator (who was already there before the event), seems like it's here to stay.Wonder which banned forum user you are.
I wonder too
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@SenzuDuck said:
According to the forum: Everyone is SWF
According to the forum: SWF is unbeatableShouldn't matches be unwinnable as a killer, then? Because they certainly aren't.
According to the Dev's stats, SWF players are the majority of the playerbase.
According to the Depip-Squad 's huge data, it's indeed unwinnable with all killers except Nurse, if the survivor team play optimally.
Of course you will disingeniously deny it or twist it, but at least peoples who will read this threads will be acknowledged of the usual survivor 's fallacies.
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@Blueberry said:
+1 I never understood how this wasn't just done on the games release, seems like common sense.You summarized very well this game's history.
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@Tsulan said:
Have you tried playing killer?
You get instant lobbies.Can you taste it ?
The sweet irony of this whole situation ?
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@fluffybunny said:
I like challenging stuff that isn't boring and brain dead. Camping and tunneling is brain dead and boring. How is this even an expectation? It's like some people can't be reasonable with alternate viewpoints or something.
Keep up with this mentality, it's all good.
Also i hope you enjoy the Lobby simulator, because it look like it's here to stay .
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@Cymer said:
Why should a killer let a survivor give the chance to get up? to win the game and gain an advantage you should finish off weak targets if you can. One survivor out of the game is such an advantage and potential to snowball of it. If you make a suggestion, make one that is valid and of equal impact.
Noone likes to have a handed victory! And if you want to have a handed victory, play another game.Brace yourself for the wave of :
"Don't be such a sweaty tryhard, it's not FUN (TM) "
...incoming !
