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@Sarief said:
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@SariefAlso, WGLF is not even in the top 5 used perks for survivors. While BBQ is strong #1
Also, nice job assuming I’m the worst, and that I’m fine cause I DC to save a flashlight. I want the points to get everyone p3, including killers!
read previous comment. I didn't even assume you bring it in the first place, just pointed that survivors DC to save it, so there is no risk and items can be saved. You want to say it was about you?
Why’d you even mention it? This is about BP (that can and will be spent on killers) not some flashy stick
BP = more items/addons + perks + prestige.
Killers need addons. Survivors don't and even save it.
less items spent = less BP needed.
I explained it 3 times, you can't seem to grasp it. wondersBP is shared across both factions. Let’s give you a hypothetical. If I want p3 Dwight. But I’m fine playing either side. Which side is better to play to get points fast? Killer, or survivor? When I’m spending the points on Dwight? It’s killer. Stop assuming I play survivor to spend on survivor. I want everyone p3. And I have one p3 killer and survivor already. And billy don’t need add ons
I play survivor to farm. I have BBQ, but with survivor it's much faster, efficient and relaxing. your point is..?
ps: Billy uses up addons. Survivors can find item+addon in trial and retrieve it.
Survivors don’t make more, not if you’re even somewhat good with killer. I get like 26k a game with billy. Also, I don’t use items for survivor or killer, so that point falls flat on its ass. I said it earlier but you ignored me and repeated yourself like some busted up record.
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Each time you ATTEMPT (but fail) to message during the 180 it resets
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@OrionQc24 said:
It keep telling me no discussion found. Anyways yes that's why they are always 2 bodyblockers.
But as I said you can still hook after you hit em both
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@vampire_toothy said:
Being the obsession should come with risks that you should prepare yourself for. Currently rancor is the only obsession perk that puts the obsession in real danger rather than being passive to the obsession or putting your team in danger after being tunneled to death and even then this perk could potentially encourage passive behavior until the end. Keep in mind that rancor gives the obsession (you) 5/4/3 seconds depending on the tier to see where the killer is heading, use that information to your advantage and avoid the killer. Keep in mind that rancor only applies to one person per game unlike devour hope which can apply to everyone and unlike any insta downing perk or power ever made in existence (with the exception of MYC which applies to one person at a time but even that has the potential to activate on different survivors at some point in the match). Keep in mind that rancor can be made entirely useless if you die early on or by simply knowing when to hide and where. If you're the obsession as often as you say you are you should consider getting rid of DS and instead get a perk that will be more beneficial to you throughout your match (For instance lithe, dance with me, iron will and lightweight makes a pretty solid combination just as an example here). If you're not running DS, object of obsession or sole survivor and you're the obsession this often then I would honestly recommend playing stealthy if you're that unlucky.I die inside whenever I’m rancor obsession without an obsession perk. It happens quite often too
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@Sarief said:
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@SariefAlso, WGLF is not even in the top 5 used perks for survivors. While BBQ is strong #1
You'd think that would be a reason to think why survivors have 5 more broken perks than wgfl analogue that makes you grind faster
It's not in top 5 because top 5 is so stupidly broken and survivors don't need to farm to be viable. They don't need items or addons and they even keep them if they survive -_-
Again, give me a single NEGATIVE effect if tokens were easier to get, and required less farming.
1) economy problems. Killer and Survivor should be in equilibrium so that it does not become reason to play either side. Both sides should have balanced point gaining way
2) look what happened when WGLF was 200%
3) Less insensitive to help teammate. This is what this perk is for, right?
3 is not enough?1) then buff killer gains too hot damn. 2) did I say make it 200% it’d still be 100%, but it’d be consistent like BBQ is if you don’t suck. 3) It just causes farming, and you should know that. 4) three isn't enough if all three are ass
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@Sarief said:
@Jack11803 said:
@Sarief said:
@Jack11803 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@SariefAlso, WGLF is not even in the top 5 used perks for survivors. While BBQ is strong #1
Also, nice job assuming I’m the worst, and that I’m fine cause I DC to save a flashlight. I want the points to get everyone p3, including killers!
read previous comment. I didn't even assume you bring it in the first place, just pointed that survivors DC to save it, so there is no risk and items can be saved. You want to say it was about you?
Why’d you even mention it? This is about BP (that can and will be spent on killers) not some flashy stick
BP = more items/addons + perks + prestige.
Killers need addons. Survivors don't and even save it.
less items spent = less BP needed.
I explained it 3 times, you can't seem to grasp it. wondersBP is shared across both factions. Let’s give you a hypothetical. If I want p3 Dwight. But I’m fine playing either side. Which side is better to play to get points fast? Killer, or survivor? When I’m spending the points on Dwight? It’s killer. Stop assuming I play survivor to spend on survivor. I want everyone p3. And I have one p3 killer and survivor already. And billy don’t need add ons
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@OrionQc24 said:
This forum comment posting DAMN !That’s damn spam man
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@OrionQc24 said:
That's a lie. Borrowed time and sides unhook are literally there to counter face campers.That just causes a trade off. Two, you can use killers power and spam it to slowly clip into the hook. Blocking the prompt.
Using a bug isn't a good argument.
The same killer mains screaming at me that a buff to WGLF is somehow bad, are the same ones that say “it’s not face camping unless you block the prompt” wanna argue with their nonsense.
Nevermind I’m sorry. I wouldn’t wish having to argue with them on my worst enemy.
I'm not trying to say face campers aren't annoying, just saying bodyblockers are too. To me they're on similar lvls. Trolls exploiting flaws in the game to win BUT I'm saying face campers actually have real in-game mechanic counters as oppose to bodyblockers.
The counter to bodyblockers is hitting them...
Then you have a 5s animation during which they switch, forcing another hit 5s again, the dude wiggles away and you're back chasing while they're healing/repairing waiting for you to try again. Rince repeat as many times as you want since you can't hook they can be downed an infinite amount of times.
It’s 3 seconds if you count the swing. And that’s 6 seconds. It takes about 12.5 seconds to wiggle free. That’s if you don’t have iron grasp or Agitation, with iron grasp giving more time, and agiatation usually able to circumvent bodyocking
So as I said 2 hits, he wiggle away.
.....no. You’d still have 6.5 seconds. Though it takes time to reach the hook, you’d still have 1 or 2 to hook if it’s nearby. Bodyblocking is only a problem when you walk really far and one hit gets em Look you understand perfectly the situation so stop pretending like this is fair and can be work around, it cannot unless they're terrible survivors and stop teaming up to bodyblock hooks. You keep saying 2 hits he's down but it's NEVER 1 bodyblocker.
You only hit a bodyblocker once... then they lose collision.... did you know that?
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@Sarief said:
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@SariefAlso, WGLF is not even in the top 5 used perks for survivors. While BBQ is strong #1
Also, nice job assuming I’m the worst, and that I’m fine cause I DC to save a flashlight. I want the points to get everyone p3, including killers!
read previous comment. I didn't even assume you bring it in the first place, just pointed that survivors DC to save it, so there is no risk and items can be saved. You want to say it was about you?
Why’d you even mention it? This is about BP (that can and will be spent on killers) not some flashy stick
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The perk will be useful after healing cube. Only buff it should get is less severe penalty. But same end result of 50%
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@Giche said:
@Jack11803 said:
We need one of leatherface for the “other” mains too
As i said in another thread, it's already ingame :
That’s pretty..... smart
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How bout’ add points for NOT tunneling. Add points to survivors as a hook “distraction”. Add points for hiding but not being seen as the killer passes. Etc etc
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Because it’s a strategy. Never ever should we remove points. Just add
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@OrionQc24 said:
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@OrionQc24 said:
That's a lie. Borrowed time and sides unhook are literally there to counter face campers.That just causes a trade off. Two, you can use killers power and spam it to slowly clip into the hook. Blocking the prompt.
Using a bug isn't a good argument.
The same killer mains screaming at me that a buff to WGLF is somehow bad, are the same ones that say “it’s not face camping unless you block the prompt” wanna argue with their nonsense.
Nevermind I’m sorry. I wouldn’t wish having to argue with them on my worst enemy.
I'm not trying to say face campers aren't annoying, just saying bodyblockers are too. To me they're on similar lvls. Trolls exploiting flaws in the game to win BUT I'm saying face campers actually have real in-game mechanic counters as oppose to bodyblockers.
The counter to bodyblockers is hitting them...
Then you have a 5s animation during which they switch, forcing another hit 5s again, the dude wiggles away and you're back chasing while they're healing/repairing waiting for you to try again. Rince repeat as many times as you want since you can't hook they can be downed an infinite amount of times.
It’s 3 seconds if you count the swing. And that’s 6 seconds. It takes about 12.5 seconds to wiggle free. That’s if you don’t have iron grasp or Agitation, with iron grasp giving more time, and agiatation usually able to circumvent bodyocking
So as I said 2 hits, he wiggle away.
.....no. You’d still have 6.5 seconds. Though it takes time to reach the hook, you’d still have 1 or 2 to hook if it’s nearby. Bodyblocking is only a problem when you walk really far and one hit gets em off
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@DocOctober said:
Please have the game save our current Bloodpoint-progression mid-trial (for example whenever a Generator is completed). I just lost surely 200-300K in Bloodpoints because my game decided to crash randomly.This would be a godsend on PS4, with the stupid killer close app causing survivors to lose data #########
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@FrenziedRoach said:
Tell you what, I'd be okay with seeing WGLF buffed if I stop seeing threads that ask for a nerf to BBQ and Chili.Get back to me when you can accomplish that :chuffed:
I’m sure they would decrease. At least somewhat
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@OrionQc24 said:
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@OrionQc24 said:
That's a lie. Borrowed time and sides unhook are literally there to counter face campers.That just causes a trade off. Two, you can use killers power and spam it to slowly clip into the hook. Blocking the prompt.
Using a bug isn't a good argument.
The same killer mains screaming at me that a buff to WGLF is somehow bad, are the same ones that say “it’s not face camping unless you block the prompt” wanna argue with their nonsense.
Nevermind I’m sorry. I wouldn’t wish having to argue with them on my worst enemy.
I'm not trying to say face campers aren't annoying, just saying bodyblockers are too. To me they're on similar lvls. Trolls exploiting flaws in the game to win BUT I'm saying face campers actually have real in-game mechanic counters as oppose to bodyblockers.
The counter to bodyblockers is hitting them...
Then you have a 5s animation during which they switch, forcing another hit 5s again, the dude wiggles away and you're back chasing while they're healing/repairing waiting for you to try again. Rince repeat as many times as you want since you can't hook they can be downed an infinite amount of times.
It’s 3 seconds if you count the swing. And that’s 6 seconds. It takes about 12.5 seconds to wiggle free. That’s if you don’t have iron grasp or Agitation, with iron grasp giving more time, and agiatation usually able to circumvent bodyocking
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@Sarief said:
@Jack11803 said:
@SariefAlso, WGLF is not even in the top 5 used perks for survivors. While BBQ is strong #1
You'd think that would be a reason to think why survivors have 5 more broken perks than wgfl analogue that makes you grind faster
It's not in top 5 because top 5 is so stupidly broken and survivors don't need to farm to be viable. They don't need items or addons and they even keep them if they survive -_-
Again, give me a single NEGATIVE effect if tokens were easier to get, and required less farming.
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@Sarief said:
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@Sarief said: Delfador said:
@Jack11803 said: @Jack11803 said: @NextKillerSpongebob said: @Jack11803 said: @NextKillerSpongebob said: @Nickenzie said: Since I seen a lot of fog travelers who wanted to buff WGLF, I wanted to give my 2 cents on it and hopefully you'll agree! WHY IS WGLF WEAK COMPARED TO BBQ? The main reason why WGLF is weak is because the requirement to gain a stack isn't the survivors objective and it's not reliable! On the other hand, BBQ gives you stacks for rewarding the killer for DOING THEIR OBJECTIVE instead of not going out of your way to do something risky such as let's say "Hooking a survivor in the basement to gain a stack". So here are my two suggestions on how we can buff WGLF while being balanced: WGLF: (More Ways to Get Stacks) Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, repair a generator, stun the killer with a pallet, gain 20 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 60/80/100 %.The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial. WGLF: (A Warning if The Killer is Coming) Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, gain 25 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 50/75/100 %. When you perform hook rescue, after 3 seconds, receive a notification if the killer is coming to you. The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial. The notification will warn you if the killer is coming by looking at how fast the distance between you and the killer is getting smaller! If the distance between you and the killer is getting small real fast then the notification will go off after 3 seconds but it wouldn't if the distance between you and killer gets bigger or it's inconsistent! Thoughts, opinions? Leave your civil feedback below!
Sorry for not making your easy game more rewarding. That statement doesn’t make sense. How doesn't it make any sense? The survivors already get rewarded with easy pips and easy pallet loops, why give them a reward for being dicks? Giving more ways to get tokens to discourage farming = rewarding dicks? Also, if you somehow didn’t notice, there’s way to many killers in matchmaking right now. Yet none of them are playing spirit. Care to explain why they are playing killer if it’s not for the new one? Oh right, for points. You are arguing for no reason. What I have learned from this forum is that if the opposite side is biased, there is no way to convince them therefor no reason to continue to debate. This forum is so divided. You can't even want additional ways to get tokens for BPs. Same people also cry about 'strong survivor meta build' which is borrowed time, adrenaline, DS, exhaustion perks etc. If the killer mains think about it a little bit more, if the WGLF gets buffed, survivors will have to sacrifice one perk slot. 1) if you think a little more, if everyone starts taking wgfl it means it's even more broken than DS, adrenaline, self care or SbBt is long ago in a good spot and not broken They won't sacrifice, they will just be more broken. 2) you have 4 ways, I'm getting so much done, I would normally have 6-8 tokens in a normal game. Limit is 4 and reaching it is not hard. Git gud SO BBQ IS BROKEN!? It’s the most used killer perk Lol, same as wgfl. The only difference you don't need points for survivors, since you can dc to save your purple flashlight ;) And tell me what is better for killer than wgfl analogue, when killer needs so much points?
And don't tell me about aura things, it only works for Billy and nurse, and it's so easy to counter, It effectively is wgfl.
Since some time I only see survivor using bbq, if he memes
And to add to it, what does it matter if perk is strong or not on one side in assymetrical game, where goals are different and perk usage as well?)
I want to own you in this argument. But you keep doing it for me. Like the other people I
disagreed and thought they were wrong. But this is just stupid.
screw the forum formating
keep doing what for you? What other people? Disaggreed with what? what is stupid?
what you talk about? you don't make sense! to much "this, it, other, they, this"
I’m saying you’re losing the argument by typing contradicting stuff that proves MY point. And how it’s stupid. The people I disagree with but still make actual sense that’s not a train of emotional wreckage are those above you like zombie genesis
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
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@OrionQc24 said:
That's a lie. Borrowed time and sides unhook are literally there to counter face campers.That just causes a trade off. Two, you can use killers power and spam it to slowly clip into the hook. Blocking the prompt.
Using a bug isn't a good argument.
The same killer mains screaming at me that a buff to WGLF is somehow bad, are the same ones that say “it’s not face camping unless you block the prompt” wanna argue with their nonsense.
Nevermind I’m sorry. I wouldn’t wish having to argue with them on my worst enemy.
I'm not trying to say face campers aren't annoying, just saying bodyblockers are too. To me they're on similar lvls. Trolls exploiting flaws in the game to win BUT I'm saying face campers actually have real in-game mechanic counters as oppose to bodyblockers.
The counter to bodyblockers is hitting them...
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@FrenziedRoach said:
In fact, let me spell it out for you plainlyTick rate is the number of times a game updates it's state per second. When I looked it up a couple years back, a locally hosted game in Unreal Engine has a default tick rate of about 35 - that's 35 game state updates PER SECOND. It's this low for a reason - as the game not only has to send updates to the clients, but it has to compute and run the game for the host itself.
This game was created from the ground up with that tick rate in mind. And thus, it has been created from the ground up (poorly) to be lean on whatever host it runs on.
A shooter is a completely different beast. Not only because of the precision of headshots and so-forth, the game also has to compute the any projectiles that are not hit-scan, usually multiples.
But yes, please continue to act that one game is enough like the other RE
The point is its be nice for dedicated servers to be added, and they need to re-code the spaghetti anyway.
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@Jack11803 said:
@SariefAlso, WGLF is not even in the top 5 used perks for survivors. While BBQ is strong #1
Also, nice job assuming I’m the worst, and that I’m fine cause I DC to save a flashlight. I want the points to get everyone p3, including killers!
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
That's a lie. Borrowed time and sides unhook are literally there to counter face campers.That just causes a trade off. Two, you can use killers power and spam it to slowly clip into the hook. Blocking the prompt.
Using a bug isn't a good argument.
The same killer mains screaming at me that a buff to WGLF is somehow bad, are the same ones that say “it’s not face camping unless you block the prompt” wanna argue with their nonsense.
Nevermind I’m sorry. I wouldn’t wish having to argue with them on my worst enemy.
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@elementira said:
Jack11803 said:Too many people playing killer. How do they fix that? Oh right, buffing survivor point gain
Screw that I'd rather wait an hour 😂😂
What? Are survivors gonna bully you with bloodpoints? Do you even read what you type?!
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@OrionQc24 said:
That's a lie. Borrowed time and sides unhook are literally there to counter face campers.That just causes a trade off. Two, you can use killers power and spam it to slowly clip into the hook. Blocking the prompt.
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@Sarief said:
Jack11803 said:@Sarief said:
Delfador said:
@Jack11803 said: @Jack11803 said: @NextKillerSpongebob said: @Jack11803 said: @NextKillerSpongebob said: @Nickenzie said: Since I seen a lot of fog travelers who wanted to buff WGLF, I wanted to give my 2 cents on it and hopefully you'll agree! WHY IS WGLF WEAK COMPARED TO BBQ? The main reason why WGLF is weak is because the requirement to gain a stack isn't the survivors objective and it's not reliable! On the other hand, BBQ gives you stacks for rewarding the killer for DOING THEIR OBJECTIVE instead of not going out of your way to do something risky such as let's say "Hooking a survivor in the basement to gain a stack". So here are my two suggestions on how we can buff WGLF while being balanced: WGLF: (More Ways to Get Stacks) Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, repair a generator, stun the killer with a pallet, gain 20 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 60/80/100 %.The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial. WGLF: (A Warning if The Killer is Coming) Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, gain 25 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 50/75/100 %. When you perform hook rescue, after 3 seconds, receive a notification if the killer is coming to you. The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial. The notification will warn you if the killer is coming by looking at how fast the distance between you and the killer is getting smaller! If the distance between you and the killer is getting small real fast then the notification will go off after 3 seconds but it wouldn't if the distance between you and killer gets bigger or it's inconsistent! Thoughts, opinions? Leave your civil feedback below! :) Sorry for not making your easy game more rewarding. That statement doesn’t make sense. How doesn't it make any sense? The survivors already get rewarded with easy pips and easy pallet loops, why give them a reward for being dicks? Giving more ways to get tokens to discourage farming = rewarding dicks? Also, if you somehow didn’t notice, there’s way to many killers in matchmaking right now. Yet none of them are playing spirit. Care to explain why they are playing killer if it’s not for the new one? Oh right, for points. You are arguing for no reason. What I have learned from this forum is that if the opposite side is biased, there is no way to convince them therefor no reason to continue to debate. This forum is so divided. You can't even want additional ways to get tokens for BPs. Same people also cry about 'strong survivor meta build' which is borrowed time, adrenaline, DS, exhaustion perks etc. If the killer mains think about it a little bit more, if the WGLF gets buffed, survivors will have to sacrifice one perk slot. 1) if you think a little more, if everyone starts taking wgfl it means it's even more broken than DS, adrenaline, self care or Sb
Bt is long ago in a good spot and not broken
They won't sacrifice, they will just be more broken.
2) you have 4 ways, I'm getting so much done, I would normally have 6-8 tokens in a normal game. Limit is 4 and reaching it is not hard. Git gud
SO BBQ IS BROKEN!? It’s the most used killer perk
Lol, same as wgfl. The only difference you don't need points for survivors, since you can dc to save your purple flashlight
And tell me what is better for killer than wgfl analogue, when killer needs so much points?
And don't tell me about aura things, it only works for Billy and nurse, and it's so easy to counter, It effectively is wgfl.
Since some time I only see survivor using bbq, if he memesAnd to add to it, what does it matter if perk is strong or not on one side in assymetrical game, where goals are different and perk usage as well?)
I want to own you in this argument. But you keep doing it for me. Like the other people I disagreed and thought they were wrong. But this is just stupid.
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
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@OrionQc24 said:
See again it isn't how it's suppose to be used. That perk is for when you free someone or they're being chased and are trying to escape the killer. Are you really rank 1 ?Blocking during a chase is bugged and doesn’t work
And for when it does work, one of its conditions is “if you take a hit while killer is carrying someone” what else would that be for?
What I'm saying explicitly is that; if I'm right in front of a hook, the game shouldn't allow you and 2 others to literally block that hook. Even face camping have counter methods even if the killer's right there. Not bodyblocking since I can't hook from the sides.
The thing is, face camping ends someone’s game, with no chance to escape. Bodyblocking is a small inconvenience that can actually snowball into your advantage.
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And the current problem is too many killers, not rank.
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That defies the whole purpose they put rank in the game for
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@FrenziedRoach said:
DBD does not require as much precision as a shooter, have you seen the size of the huntress axe hitboxes before they screwed them up?Try again
Have you actually played any skill-based shooters? (COD does not count)
It’d be real nice if it had em though. And it is the cause of several cheaters getting away, and other bugs and issues with the game.
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@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
See again it isn't how it's suppose to be used. That perk is for when you free someone or they're being chased and are trying to escape the killer. Are you really rank 1 ?Blocking during a chase is bugged and doesn’t work
And for when it does work, one of its conditions is “if you take a hit while killer is carrying someone” what else would that be for?
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@OrionQc24 said:
See again it isn't how it's suppose to be used. That perk is for when you free someone or they're being chased and are trying to escape the killer. Are you really rank 1 ?Blocking during a chase is bugged and doesn’t work
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@Jack11803 said:
@Sarief said:
Delfador said:@Jack11803 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Jack11803 said:
@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Nickenzie said:
Since I seen a lot of fog travelers who wanted to buff WGLF, I wanted to give my 2 cents on it and hopefully you'll agree!
WHY IS WGLF WEAK COMPARED TO BBQ?
The main reason why WGLF is weak is because the requirement to gain a stack isn't the survivors objective and it's not reliable!
On the other hand, BBQ gives you stacks for rewarding the killer for DOING THEIR OBJECTIVE instead of not going out of your way to do something risky such as let's say "Hooking a survivor in the basement to gain a stack".
So here are my two suggestions on how we can buff WGLF while being balanced:
WGLF: (More Ways to Get Stacks)
Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, repair a generator, stun the killer with a pallet, gain 20 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 60/80/100 %.The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial.
WGLF: (A Warning if The Killer is Coming)
Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, gain 25 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 50/75/100 %. When you perform hook rescue, after 3 seconds, receive a notification if the killer is coming to you.
The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial.
The notification will warn you if the killer is coming by looking at how fast the distance between you and the killer is getting smaller! If the distance between you and the killer is getting small real fast then the notification will go off after 3 seconds but it wouldn't if the distance between you and killer gets bigger or it's inconsistent!
Thoughts, opinions? Leave your civil feedback below!
Sorry for not making your easy game more rewarding.
That statement doesn’t make sense.
How doesn't it make any sense? The survivors already get rewarded with easy pips and easy pallet loops, why give them a reward for being dicks?
Giving more ways to get tokens to discourage farming = rewarding dicks?
Also, if you somehow didn’t notice, there’s way to many killers in matchmaking right now. Yet none of them are playing spirit. Care to explain why they are playing killer if it’s not for the new one? Oh right, for points.
You are arguing for no reason. What I have learned from this forum is that if the opposite side is biased, there is no way to convince them therefor no reason to continue to debate.
This forum is so divided. You can't even want additional ways to get tokens for BPs. Same people also cry about 'strong survivor meta build' which is borrowed time, adrenaline, DS, exhaustion perks etc. If the killer mains think about it a little bit more, if the WGLF gets buffed, survivors will have to sacrifice one perk slot.
1) if you think a little more, if everyone starts taking wgfl it means it's even more broken than DS, adrenaline, self care or Sb
Bt is long ago in a good spot and not broken
They won't sacrifice, they will just be more broken.
2) you have 4 ways, I'm getting so much done, I would normally have 6-8 tokens in a normal game. Limit is 4 and reaching it is not hard. Git gudSO BBQ IS BROKEN!? It’s the most used killer perk
You’d think with a trapper profile pic you’d have avoided stepping right into that one
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@Sarief said:
Delfador said:@Jack11803 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Jack11803 said:
@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Nickenzie said:
Since I seen a lot of fog travelers who wanted to buff WGLF, I wanted to give my 2 cents on it and hopefully you'll agree!
WHY IS WGLF WEAK COMPARED TO BBQ?
The main reason why WGLF is weak is because the requirement to gain a stack isn't the survivors objective and it's not reliable!
On the other hand, BBQ gives you stacks for rewarding the killer for DOING THEIR OBJECTIVE instead of not going out of your way to do something risky such as let's say "Hooking a survivor in the basement to gain a stack".
So here are my two suggestions on how we can buff WGLF while being balanced:
WGLF: (More Ways to Get Stacks)
Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, repair a generator, stun the killer with a pallet, gain 20 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 60/80/100 %.The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial.
WGLF: (A Warning if The Killer is Coming)
Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, gain 25 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 50/75/100 %. When you perform hook rescue, after 3 seconds, receive a notification if the killer is coming to you.
The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial.
The notification will warn you if the killer is coming by looking at how fast the distance between you and the killer is getting smaller! If the distance between you and the killer is getting small real fast then the notification will go off after 3 seconds but it wouldn't if the distance between you and killer gets bigger or it's inconsistent!
Thoughts, opinions? Leave your civil feedback below!
Sorry for not making your easy game more rewarding.
That statement doesn’t make sense.
How doesn't it make any sense? The survivors already get rewarded with easy pips and easy pallet loops, why give them a reward for being dicks?
Giving more ways to get tokens to discourage farming = rewarding dicks?
Also, if you somehow didn’t notice, there’s way to many killers in matchmaking right now. Yet none of them are playing spirit. Care to explain why they are playing killer if it’s not for the new one? Oh right, for points.
You are arguing for no reason. What I have learned from this forum is that if the opposite side is biased, there is no way to convince them therefor no reason to continue to debate.
This forum is so divided. You can't even want additional ways to get tokens for BPs. Same people also cry about 'strong survivor meta build' which is borrowed time, adrenaline, DS, exhaustion perks etc. If the killer mains think about it a little bit more, if the WGLF gets buffed, survivors will have to sacrifice one perk slot.
1) if you think a little more, if everyone starts taking wgfl it means it's even more broken than DS, adrenaline, self care or Sb
Bt is long ago in a good spot and not broken
They won't sacrifice, they will just be more broken.
2) you have 4 ways, I'm getting so much done, I would normally have 6-8 tokens in a normal game. Limit is 4 and reaching it is not hard. Git gudSO BBQ IS BROKEN!? It’s the most used killer perk
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
Point is; I think they should get rid of bodyblocking, near the hooks at least. I have no problem about face campers bc it's rather easy to work around (borrowed time, sides, etc). It's my opinion that It would then let ppl learn how to use actual game mechanics.Itd make getting WGLF tokens even harder. And if you’ve seen me in other threads, you already know how I feel about that.
I think the wiggling should be buff BUT I think it's fair and logical that it would be hard to escape with a full team.
Not sure what you’re trying to say here.
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@ZombieGenesis said:
Well, everything else aside, I stand by my points that this is meant to be a perk to make survivors choose between in-game impact and farming and that the gap between Killer and Survivor BPs isn't that great (if it exists at all). That said if they change it, whatever. It's not like it's going to break the game.In that case, please let this change happen.
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@Sarief said:
Jack11803 said:@Sarief said:
Jack11803 said:
@Sarief said: Jack11803 said:
@Sarief said: Jack11803 said:
@UncannyLuck said: @Nickenzie said: WGLF should only award a stack if you perform a safe hook rescue so survivors don't swarm the hook lol. That would just make BT mandatory for WGLF, unfortunately. WGLF does not need nerfs and that'd qualify as a nerf. It needs more ways to get tokens, or just require 2 tokens It's ultra easy to get 4 tokens. 2 are almost guaranteed if you play decently.
What is the problem with tokens? You haven’t played enough with it then. Tokens are way harder to get than BBQ. It requires the killer to get hooks to not risk your life (which means they got their BBQ). Protection is bugged to #########. It has no bonus. 4 people are COMPETING, you could die! It’s not the objective! You’re not on gens! ANYTHING ELSE THATS COMMON SENSE I NEED TO LIST? Calm down. What are you talking about?
There are 4 ways to get tokens. 1) unhook, the easiest 2) take a hit while killer carries survivor. Second easiest. 3) take a hit near downed or unhooked survivor. This one is harder, since it has know risk 4) while killer is in Chase with you and one other survivor, take a hit. This one is moderately difficult, since killer quickly loses Chase on survivor. Not impossible. Just not guaranteed What is so hard about that? let’s address 1) last. 2) Not always possible, sometimes they ignore you, most killers can get past you. If you block hook, they hook and you’re their next very easy target. Also, it’s bugged 3) They all have risk. This one is both bugged and suicidal. 4) Bugged. This one NEVER works. Other ones do occasionally, this one never works. 1) This would mean BBQ is acquired, thus its easier to get stacks. Not to mention 3 people competing for unhook. 1) lolwut?
2) all killer have 4.0 speed when cariying, (except for agitation perk), same as survivor. If they get past you, it's your fault. Wait on hook prompt and they cannot hook until they hit you. Body blocking.
3) don't want risk - don't play survivor.
4) it works for me. It's tricky. And you should not really try it. But when is open exit, and you take hit for someone...
If you have problem with "bugged" stacks, all for fix, not for freaking buff. Or just admit bring entitled.
BBQ has its own risk. You give away hook, sure is almost always not shown, making it as useful as wgfl, you still can get lopped for whole match, etc. Wgfl is much easier to get stacks. When I farm, I use survivor. It's much simpler.
You’re still failing to address how detrimental it is to doing gens, or that people compete.
Jack11803 said:
@Sarief said:
Jack11803 said:
@Sarief said: Jack11803 said:
@Sarief said: Jack11803 said:
@UncannyLuck said: @Nickenzie said: WGLF should only award a stack if you perform a safe hook rescue so survivors don't swarm the hook lol. That would just make BT mandatory for WGLF, unfortunately. WGLF does not need nerfs and that'd qualify as a nerf. It needs more ways to get tokens, or just require 2 tokens It's ultra easy to get 4 tokens. 2 are almost guaranteed if you play decently.
What is the problem with tokens? You haven’t played enough with it then. Tokens are way harder to get than BBQ. It requires the killer to get hooks to not risk your life (which means they got their BBQ). Protection is bugged to #########. It has no bonus. 4 people are COMPETING, you could die! It’s not the objective! You’re not on gens! ANYTHING ELSE THATS COMMON SENSE I NEED TO LIST? Calm down. What are you talking about?
There are 4 ways to get tokens. 1) unhook, the easiest 2) take a hit while killer carries survivor. Second easiest. 3) take a hit near downed or unhooked survivor. This one is harder, since it has know risk 4) while killer is in Chase with you and one other survivor, take a hit. This one is moderately difficult, since killer quickly loses Chase on survivor. Not impossible. Just not guaranteed What is so hard about that? let’s address 1) last. 2) Not always possible, sometimes they ignore you, most killers can get past you. If you block hook, they hook and you’re their next very easy target. Also, it’s bugged 3) They all have risk. This one is both bugged and suicidal. 4) Bugged. This one NEVER works. Other ones do occasionally, this one never works. 1) This would mean BBQ is acquired, thus its easier to get stacks. Not to mention 3 people competing for unhook. 1) lolwut?
2) all killer have 4.0 speed when cariying, (except for agitation perk), same as survivor. If they get past you, it's your fault. Wait on hook prompt and they cannot hook until they hit you. Body blocking.
3) don't want risk - don't play survivor.
4) it works for me. It's tricky. And you should not really try it. But when is open exit, and you take hit for someone...
If you have problem with "bugged" stacks, all for fix, not for freaking buff. Or just admit bring entitled.
BBQ has its own risk. You give away hook, sure is almost always not shown, making it as useful as wgfl, you still can get lopped for whole match, etc. Wgfl is much easier to get stacks. When I farm, I use survivor. It's much simpler.
You’re still failing to address how detrimental it is to doing gens, or that people compete.
I can't fix this on mobile
You fail at baby things
1) two gens is almost 8k points. You can do to gens guaranteed, unless you are tunelled.
So, you don't need more for points.
2) blocking killer is rarely competed. Only unhook, but that's not the only way, so stop crying.
3) your not entitled to 4 stacks, just like killer, you have to earn it. It's not easy for killer, why should it be for you?
4) stacks don't matter without points so you still have to do objectives. So gens, if you can't get stacks.
5) if killer camps, get free 5k escape p points
6) it killer does not camp you have 6 attempts to get stacks. Someone would be chased, if not you - there is only 1 competitor. You can't seriously argue that you fail to get unhook 6 times with such conditions.
7) not everyone the the perk, so don't think many will try to get ahead of you so much
I get 4 stacks with bbq REALLY easily. Other points you made are redundant and I addressed earlier
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
Point is; I think they should get rid of bodyblocking, near the hooks at least. I have no problem about face campers bc it's rather easy to work around (borrowed time, sides, etc). It's my opinion that It would then let ppl learn how to use actual game mechanics.Itd make getting WGLF tokens even harder. And if you’ve seen me in other threads, you already know how I feel about that.
Oh wiggling free
Not wiggling drew. Taking a hit would be harder. You get tokens for taking hits for teammates. I could care less if they stay on your back
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@Giche said:
@DocOctober said:
You know, whenever someone starts a thread requesting buffs to Survivor Perks with "I'm a Killer main/high rank Killer/Killer player", it's almost always a Survivor main trying to give themselves a shred of credibility.
We need one of leatherface for the “other” mains too
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@OrionQc24 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@OrionQc24 said:
Point is; I think they should get rid of bodyblocking, near the hooks at least. I have no problem about face campers bc it's rather easy to work around (borrowed time, sides, etc). It's my opinion that It would then let ppl learn how to use actual game mechanics.Itd make getting WGLF tokens even harder. And if you’ve seen me in other threads, you already know how I feel about that.
First time here. WGLF ?
We're Gonna Live Forever
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@OrionQc24 said:
Point is; I think they should get rid of bodyblocking, near the hooks at least. I have no problem about face campers bc it's rather easy to work around (borrowed time, sides, etc). It's my opinion that It would then let ppl learn how to use actual game mechanics.Itd make getting WGLF tokens even harder. And if you’ve seen me in other threads, you already know how I feel about that.
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@Peasant said:
I play killer and survivor but recently I have been trying to stick to survivor for the shorter queue. While I don't make nearly as many points as my doc can (72k BP < 170k BP) the faster games balance it out a little. I already have all of the previous teachables and I got Spirit Fury earlier so honestly I just need Adam's perks now and I will be content.This is the problem. Survivors need to make more, so people actually play em and balance matchmaking out
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@ZombieGenesis said:
I rotate killers. The only killers I don't use are The Nurse, The Clown, and (and this makes me sad) Freddy.I use wraith and billy. Sometimes Myers and doc. Got em all p3 and perked up
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It’s good if you haven’t memorized pallet or vault locations yet. Other than that, yeah it’s a waste
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@ZombieGenesis said:
Well, that's flat out not true. It's a myth that killers "earn more points than survivors". On average I earn 15k to 22k as a killer. It's the same as survivor if I make it to the end of the trial. The shorter the amount of time I'm in the trial the fewer points I get but you know what? I can go right on to another game earning more BPs, which the people that are still in the current match cannot do.And it's not just me. I've been keeping tabs of average points for survivors and killers across various streamers and the averages are all roughly the same, 15 to 22k before any BP buffs. So, again, it's a myth that killers earn more BP than survivors.
I earn 22-28k every game with killer, even if I lose (not counting 4 BBQ stacks I get 90% if the time.) what killer do you use?
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@OrionQc24 said:
Anyway what is even happenning here were not even debating bodyblocking anymore...Yeah, this is bad.
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@Delfador said:
@Jack11803 said:
@Jack11803 said:
@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Jack11803 said:
@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Nickenzie said:
Since I seen a lot of fog travelers who wanted to buff WGLF, I wanted to give my 2 cents on it and hopefully you'll agree!WHY IS WGLF WEAK COMPARED TO BBQ?
The main reason why WGLF is weak is because the requirement to gain a stack isn't the survivors objective and it's not reliable!
On the other hand, BBQ gives you stacks for rewarding the killer for DOING THEIR OBJECTIVE instead of not going out of your way to do something risky such as let's say "Hooking a survivor in the basement to gain a stack".
So here are my two suggestions on how we can buff WGLF while being balanced:
WGLF: (More Ways to Get Stacks)
Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, repair a generator, stun the killer with a pallet, gain 20 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 60/80/100 %.The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial.WGLF: (A Warning if The Killer is Coming)
Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, gain 25 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 50/75/100 %. When you perform hook rescue, after 3 seconds, receive a notification if the killer is coming to you.
The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial.
The notification will warn you if the killer is coming by looking at how fast the distance between you and the killer is getting smaller! If the distance between you and the killer is getting small real fast then the notification will go off after 3 seconds but it wouldn't if the distance between you and killer gets bigger or it's inconsistent!
Thoughts, opinions? Leave your civil feedback below!
Sorry for not making your easy game more rewarding.
That statement doesn’t make sense.
How doesn't it make any sense? The survivors already get rewarded with easy pips and easy pallet loops, why give them a reward for being dicks?
Giving more ways to get tokens to discourage farming = rewarding dicks?
Also, if you somehow didn’t notice, there’s way to many killers in matchmaking right now. Yet none of them are playing spirit. Care to explain why they are playing killer if it’s not for the new one? Oh right, for points.
You are arguing for no reason. What I have learned from this forum is that if the opposite side is biased, there is no way to convince them therefor no reason to continue to debate.
This forum is so divided. You can't even want additional ways to get tokens for BPs. Same people also cry about 'strong survivor meta build' which is borrowed time, adrenaline, DS, exhaustion perks etc. If the killer mains think about it a little bit more, if the WGLF gets buffed, survivors will have to sacrifice one perk slot.
“but giving survivors more BP will somehow oppress killers!”