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@Devil_hit11 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3678155#Comment_3678155
he looks around demogorgon tier. C-tier. he has teleport but the mobility is average. He has chase power but the chase power is unrewarding.

As a Demo main, I really disagree.

The two Killers have the same power on paper but work vastly different in practice and ultimately have vastly different play styles and strengths/weaknesses.

To put it bluntly, the two are not really comparable due to them fundamentally working differently when you consider nuance.

Also both Killers are better than people give them credit for. Demo is low B-tier to high C-tier. Unknown is low B-tier to high B-tier.

in Unknown is Singularity, again. Comment by Iron_Cutlass March 17, 2024

@CrypticGirl said:
"Additionally, to make matters even worse, I cant even AFK the match either, since the anti-AFK system will just kick me and give me a DC penalty for a match that is effectively pointless to play."
I've never seen that happen with an afk Killer, or does it just not show for Survivors that the Killer gets an afk DC penalty?

It just displays like a normal DC to all players, but the anti-AFK mechanic only triggers if you sit completely still as Killer. Moving counts as activity so the system hardly does anything to counter AFK Iridescent Shard farming.

in Remove Killer DC Penalty Versus 4 Bots Comment by Iron_Cutlass March 17, 2024

@coolgue1 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3678361#Comment_3678361
You could just waite out the timer or insted of being blood thirsty u should know where the BU guy is and hit him then down the other guy can't ftp when injured and it takes forever to heal now a day and and their tons of per like 90% of killer perk can't be counter by the survovurs so what the difference and even if their was a counter people still wouldent run it they just complain about it untill it nerfed look at adrenaline it getting rewoked because no killer would dare through on termi us to make people broken when the last gen pops

"Just hit the other Survivor," did you not read my reply from earlier?

If I down the Survivor I am chasing, the other Survivor will instantly use For The People and Buckle Up to ensure that both Survivors get away with no consequences. If I hit the Survivor with FTPBU, the Survivor I was chasing makes a massive amount of distance. This perk combo puts the Killer into a lose/lose situation.

Also what do you mean by "just wait out the timer"?

What timer? The bleedout timer? When they can just pick up? Or are you talking about the Endurance? Which waiting it out would be pointless since they have 10 whole seconds and 40 whole meters that they can use to reach a pallet or loop?

Also Idk how you can make the argument that "90% of Killers perks cant be countered" when:

1. Most perks can be countered, it's not the game's fault that you dont understand the counterplay for most perks
2. Perks that dont have meaningful counterplay (but have incredibly strong effects) should be changed regardless of the role to begin with.

And finally... what does Adrenaline have to do with anything Ive said?

I think you are trying to argue against a preconceived notion of what you think I am or opinions you think I have rather than actually acknowledging what Ive been saying. Im not a Killer main. Im not a Survivor main. I play both sides rather evenly and do my own thing bc apparently that is a hard concept for people to understand.

You can respond if you want. Im not dragging this on further beyond this and I will not respond. We have diverged too far from the subject of the original post.

in Ultimate Weapon is fine Comment by Iron_Cutlass March 17, 2024

@glitchboi said:
Yeah there's really no point in keeping the server up when all survivors left the game other than to spite someone. Supporting this

I did a 360-flick using Shred on the Steve, that had 4 different P100 characters that they showed off in the lobby. The Steve instantly DCed and everyone DCed instantly after.

I dont want to be forced into a match where Im punished bc other players want to throw a tantrum.

in Remove Killer DC Penalty Versus 4 Bots Comment by Iron_Cutlass March 17, 2024

@coolgue1 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3678295#Comment_3678295
"This combo is just to instantly undo the Killer’s work in their face and to put them into lose/lose situation" And most killers don't do that already by trying to tunneling the weak link out because they can't get downs fast enough i not saying it balanced but it is the only current counter to tunneling in dbd so until their a counter for tunneling that any better than that i don't see why it should go it no that bad and everyone knows OTR and DC are complete trash in the current state even dead hard is trash i mean if dead hard was back to the way it was or even token based for each gen that pooped so u could get more use out of it i think you would see a back off of FTP+BU plus they have to sacrifice 2 perk slots as well as the time they are not on a gen trying to FTP it just helps the killer and hinder the survivors really on top it is base kit for killer they don't have to sacrifice any perk slots to tunnel some out and make the match almost guaranteed to be in their favor and i can tell you over 70% of killers tunnel the weak like almost every game then they have to hide and have no other choice but to do so i mean that why their so many hiding survivors now a day it just killer try's to tunnel some out in 7 minutes then the games over with the game need to be better balance around chase and not about tunneling the first person you see (BTW all of this is not point toward anyone in particular i just saying the way the state of dbd is right now because it quite bad to be honest) their hasn't been a survivor buff in over a years it just the devs trying to kick killers out of boring playstyles that are unbearable to go against like the anti-face camp and ant 3 gen system they are not killer nerfs nor are they survivor buff they are system put in place to stop those particular playstyles from happening

First, you say camping and slugging. Now, you say tunneling. You are moving the goalpost.

Also like, I dont tunnel, I dont camp, and I only slug to avoid flashlight saves. Ive had many people use For The People and Buckle Up on my downs with basically no counterplay for me. Your argument that "it's fine since it counters a playstyle" does not account for the fact that this perk combo extends beyond that.

If For The People and Buckle Up made tunneling impossible but affected no other aspects of the game, I wouldnt complain, hell, Id be happy even, but the fact that it extends beyond that is what upsets me, it's just anti-fun.

in Ultimate Weapon is fine Comment by Iron_Cutlass March 17, 2024

@coolgue1 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3678254#Comment_3678254
BU AND FTP counter killer base kit of slugging that most of the community does to gain an advantage and a turn the match 80 % in the killer favour so unless people stop slugging I don't see it ever going away too many killers are boosted mmr with slugging and camping and then cry on the fourms because their matches. Are hard because God forbid they not get a 4k every match

“Countering slugging” is when the Killer downs a Survivor and the other Survivor uses FTPBU while the Killer is in the hit recovery animation...

All jokes aside, For The People and Buckle Up isn’t used for slugging since if the Killer is slugging you would not need For The People. This combo is just to instantly undo the Killer’s work in their face and to put them into lose/lose situation (i.e. if you hit the healthy Survivor, the person you were chasing gets distance; if you down the Survivor, your work gets undo and both Survivors get 10 seconds of Endurance).

I don’t see why people defend For The People + Buckle Up as if it isn’t a busted perk combo. (Likewise, Idk why people defend busted perk combos on Killer either.)

in Ultimate Weapon is fine Comment by Iron_Cutlass March 17, 2024

@Devil_hit11 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3678213#Comment_3678213
yes it was. eruption was 22% pick-rate perk. it was #1 perk followed by pain res. I don't use ultimate weapon on most my builds. the biggest issue is that it alert survivor that they've been spotted which encourages survivor to pre-run and play defensive. It is best used on mobile killers that can close-gap quickly.
Ultimate weapons falls under an anti-meta perk. The main strength is being able bypass distortion and turn off Window of opportunity. It can help support play-styles such as scouting near hook, tunneling survivors off death hook and helping killer close out end games but other information perk are able to do same thing.

I never said didnt Eruption have the #1 usage rate. I said “not every Killer was running it.” A 22% pick-rate is not every Killer. My point being that even if something is meta or the best out there, usage rate is not the best way to determine it since there will always be people who run other things or opt into other options depending on their playstyle.

Also I wouldn’t count Ultimate Weapon as anti-meta.

Distortion is not “meta,” it isn’t the most efficient tactic possible, blocking Aura Reading can be nice but there are better perks and more effective ways of playing the game; likewise Windows of Opportunity is not “meta,” since most people who use it are new players or SoloQ players requiring the information.

Meta’s are defined by WHY people run the perk, not HOW MANY run the perk, the distinction between the two is abundantly obvious since things can be popular but not necessarily be efficient.

in Ultimate Weapon is fine Comment by Iron_Cutlass March 17, 2024

Usage Rate =/= Strength

Eruption was a busted perk but it was not used every single match by Killers.

Also you have to consider Killer powers. Killers like Nurse, Wesker, Blight, and Huntress will feel more inclined to bring Aura Reading since it provides more accurate information relevant to their power; all of which are highly used Killers. Ultimate Weapon can still work for them but to a lesser effect. (I know Nightlight says otherwise but Nightlight is not reliable since it is player submitted information which can easily be spoofed or lied about.)

Ultimate Weapon has a stronger effect on other Killers who just need the tracking but not insanely accurate information. Ultimate Weapon also synergies with certain builds/powers seeing how Killers that rely on interactions being interrupted (Sadako, Pig, etc.) can reliable use it.

in Ultimate Weapon is fine Comment by Iron_Cutlass March 17, 2024

@Xernoton said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3675204#Comment_3675204
I'll admit, I haven't read the other posts. Sorry about that.
That's terrible. I really don't understand why anyone would care about that. But I guess, using logic to explain this isn't the right approach in the first place. That's definitely despicable behavior and I hope these people get banned.
It's just a pattern of colors after all. To some it means something but to me it's nothing more, so I really don't get the fuss about it. If it makes people feel happy to have a specific pattern of colors in the game, then good for them. But why would anyone else care?

It's a bit more than colors. It's a symbol of existence. It's a symbol of being able to stand after being dragged down repeatedly.

It holds a lot of meaning to those who wave it, which is why certain people dont like it.