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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/470602#Comment_470602
Legion is definitely better imo, the only change I want is for deep wound to prevent certain actions being available like for instance you can’t do gens or cleanse totems while in the deep wound effect.
That will at least make DW mean something again.
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You know it's random don't you? Sometimes it "benefit" a killer and sometimes survivors.
Why guarantee the spawn rules and take the luck factor out? This is one of the few balanced things in the game and changing it to one side don't make any sense to me.
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The only time that having a huge ass box as a killer is useful for something. Survivors benefit from smaller boxes all the time in loops and sometimes in places where survivors can pass and killer don't.
So i would say well thought Nurse. She got 2 💀💀
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@tt_ivi_99 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/470223#Comment_470223
Because he can hit multiple people in no time.
Mangled and broken status effect aren't good debuff addons anyway, when you can just equip sloppy butcher and use better addons like the ones that reduce fatigue and increase FF duration. I don't find that change broken.
And about Frank mixtape, i think any change would make the addon better.. they literally trashed it.
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3 things for Legion:
A totally reworked power is one option. Or:
Better addons. God most of them are awful.
QoL changes. Like the older vaulting speed and no penalty for miss.
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I agree they should have completely remove the DW effect if they where going to make it like this and rework the entire power.
But i get why they left it, and the anwer is: if they remove it then they only have 2 choices, make FF do normal hits (very broken) or make FF just a running power without the posibility to hit (a boring power). So they decided to give us what they did and i guess they didn't want to reword his entire power.
So now the only whe can ask is to get reworded addons, because most of them are useless. An addon that applies exaustation would help legion to cut those long chases for example, intead of the pointless mangled and broken status pins he have.
And QoL changes like not losing you power if you miss, and a faster vaulting like it was before won't hurt anyone.
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@cbocbo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/61822/again-you-didnt-listen-to-our-feedback
Have you really give legion a chance, beacus legion is not bad, he is acctualy more fun to play as and play aginst. just play him as all the other killer like trapper but nobody step in a trapp.
Legion is very balance, but if you do strugel use the rusty knife and filty blade, or just the coldown add one that reduce fedigue.
'For you: yes agine i have played aginst a full swf groups at rank 1-4 that have die to me and not. but i still pip and most part of the time you do still dobble pip, even thoughe you dont get the last guy or 2.
I wouldn't suggest anyone to use the reduce mend time addons, DW is pointless right now.
The only good addons legion have right now is the ones that reduce fatigue and increase power duration. And when you think about that one can say that "balance" don't fit legion when he only have 2 good addons. Think about that.
He needs better addons, like a poisoned blade that applies exaustation for example.
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@Taelance said:
Looks harder to see than the Wraith.
The funniest and sad thing is that it's true 🤣
Sometimes finding claudettes It's like trying to find waldo.
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Because survivors can't have enough until a killer is weak and a clown. A very unnecessary change to please survivor mains. The common coin here since game release.
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Change your name to "ihatekillers" or "survivor main" then the devs will surely listen to everything you say and even offer you a cup of ☕️...
*sigh*
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Absolutely not. Not only they are working around a similar power like michael instead of working a new one from scratch but also he will be nerfed sooner or later like every killer.
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I love when a survivor main like you start insulting, its so cute.
You say that a single survivor should always have a counter againts a killer, but yet you miss the fact that this game it's a 4v1 game. So the asymetrical downside for killers is already there, therefore a killer should always have an advantage in 1vs1 chases or all of them will escape, and that is the asymetrical part while playing survivor.
The changes they did to legion are very survivor sided. Only a few needed but most of them not. If you enjoy easy matches then good for you, I not either if i play one side or the other.
They finally did the same as with freddy except this time not in the next week of release but later.
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"FF being able to down people meant cheap cheesy down with not outplay"
Are you serius? Having to hit someone 3 times for a very long chase when at least 1 gen is powering up is op for you? Hiting people with his power until you down them was only viable when using frank mixtape, and only with that it was a "cheesy" way, but without it its not. So a neft was needed to the addon, not the power, and yet we get a power nerf *clap clap clap*
So for you a way to balance a game is nerf a killer until a survivor can sucesfully counter or escape any mechaninc he have? You know that this should be and asymetrical game don't you?
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@twistedmonkey said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/462117#Comment_462117
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/461960#Comment_461960
Legion was wrongly designed from the start, there is no excuse to release a killer who had no counter play, that was the biggest issue.
Players also found a major way to abuse the power and make easy down happen, for a killer who's whole purpose was to be fun for both sides to turn out how they did negated the whole vison of them.
The devs stated have stated they are collecting stats on them now to see how they do and what they may need to change.
You can take that as a lie or whatever but it's happening, just because you don't agree with something doesn't mean it wasn't needed.
Sometimes you need to take a step back and realise why something happened and give feedback now on what can be done.
The ptb had many changed for testing some were simple numbers but major ones generally don't get overhauled before going live as they need a lot more testing.
They can't test thing on live when we have a broken matchmaking system. It's like having corrupt data. You can't balance a game right when for example: I with 2 friend with more than 1k hours plays a match with a killer with 3h.... and viceversa.
And about legion changes, the only thing that needed to be changed is the abuse of deepwound, but the rest it's uncalled nerfs to just make survivors life more easy and make legion even weaker, because he never was an op killer.
And here we are again, nerfing killers for new players with a bad matchamking and i assure you that doing this it's not for the healh of the game but a corporative action like some people are saying. Because no one with a clear mind can say that all those changes are good, the mayority are very bad.
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@twistedmonkey said:
Legion is in a better place to receive some buffs now, the cup is always better looking at it as being half full.
Yea a better place for survivor maybe.. Come on that its just an excuse to not balance him in a proper way and just trash a killer.
That's is the purpose of the ptb not the live. And they didn't implement anything from all the feedback, except one from piggy.
The responsable for legion changes is very reluctant to the feedback we give and im pretty sure that not much will be changed after this butchering.
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The worst update ever. Only one that is happy is freddy because he doesn't occupie the bottom tier list now.
They didn't listen to any of the suggestions, they just go with all the legion ptb nerfs to the live version. What a way to kill a killer and ignore feedback from people.
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An awesome and lol button would be better. A vote down button is like a dislike in youtube, its uselss and boring.
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Nah, don't worry, if you didn't abuse any bug you will be ok. Those are just random threats. Enjoy legion all you want before he gets downgraded. Im doing that along with burning my good addons.
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Pufff... survivors this days dc from every match they are downed the first, are going to be killed, want to save their very rare items, see a secret killer offering and other examples... I doesn't matter wich killer you play.
I got dcs when i play every killer no exceptions. Obiously not every match, but pretty often. They really abuse the no penalty for disconecting. And because the solution is a time penalty to join another match like many games have, but it implies to touch "the so beloved survivors" we as a killer have to deal with it.
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It looks like we are going to need that perk combo to compensate a little this massive nerfs madness and give free killer stuns to survivors... what a sad end for legion.
And yes they really need to change addons to something interesting, like for example"a venenous blade that applies exaustation", the ones that applies mangled and broken aren't useful at all. And fmt is a joke.
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@rNine_ said:
It's a time waster, and a free first hit killer. He's more than fine, and I say this as a Legion main.
Nice, another camouflaged survivor main in a Legion skin.
*Behaviour forums.. Behaviour forums never changes..*
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*Hits invisible Lol button"
*The nurse float away..*
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@rNine_ said:
The new Legion is amazing unless you play him like the current live version of legion. If you spammed FF hits, and tunneled one survivor then you're going to have a bad time. If you actually play Legion how it's intended you are going to slay. I've been getting consistent 4Ks on PTB all day, and the changes feel absolutely amazing. The map pressure is very real my friends....
The only thing I'd like to see changed is the power diminishing on M1's, and maybe a reduction of the blackout effect coming out of FF.
Amazing yes... for survivors that just want killers to be nerfed to the ground and get easy matches.. Hes far from being balanced in the ptb.
Also don't take ptb matches seriously, people just test things there, i got one of the matches i played a 4k too but that doesn't mean hes balanced... i got some matches that i just killed one and none, and im not a bad player i have 1.4k hours in this game.
The changes are bad and makes him very weak to looping. It needs a lot of adjustments or removal of some of the changes. In a overall the changes are bad if not terrible.
If you find amusement in a killer that can be easy looped and his power is a joke, you can't be taken seriously because you are not being impartial here.
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@Okuu46 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/439044#Comment_439044
Not really? If done correctly, Freddys power can actually take control of the game, withholding survivors in an endless dream realm; which makes the game go by slower then usual.
Legion on the other hand, is just like you said; a killer that moves at 115% the speed; His power has no negative effect whatsoever towards survivors and the game; Yeah he may walk fast, but that still dosen't accumulate the fact that he can endlessly be looped, as he waits for a long ass time to get a power that does absolutely nothing!
It's like your being punished when you use his power! You miss an attack, the gauge goes goes to zero, you hit a survivor in frenzy, as long as the survivor is in your 32 METER TERROR RADIUS their absolutely safe, no need to mend; His vault speed is just, no, i can't even... and not only that, but your gauge is just, god awfully slow...
Freddys power can actually do damage to survivors under certain circumstances; while legions power dose not, for anything.
yes i understand it takes 7 second to pull a survivor in the dream realm, but Freddy isn't limited with his power; he can endlessly use it without being punished for it; which makes him a bit higher then legion.
also, not to mention that Freddy's getting a massive rework next month too, so theirs that.
Legions F- tier
Wise words, Freddy power may be not perfect but he have aura reading and stealth and that is something, while Legion get nothing from his power other than damaging himself and applying a meaningless effect.
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@GT_Legend2 said:
As expect, the legion changes eliminated countless BS exploits and gave him a 115 movement speed
A speed change that doesn't mean anything. Most 4,6 speed killers are weak to looping. Legion is now one more of them in the low tier list. Why don't you try to be impartial instead of survivor sided?
No one can't deny that his power is now useless and that he is another weak m1 killer susceptible to looping.
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Not as bad as the new Legion. At least she can still benefit from her ambush and traps in the early and mid game. While legion can only chase and expect to get an m1 hit, and hope they don't have MoM or DH.
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It really hurts her playstyle.. Looks like we will have to use the traps as soon as we down someone instead of saving it for the late end game..
A very stupid change. Looks like the devs wants to give survivors more advantages than ever in this ptb update.. what a surprise... not really..
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I never through legion was a nurse tier killer..
"increased the fatigue time when feral frenzy ends from 3 seconds to 4 seconds"
Why dont you guys just delete legion instead? They have killed him at so many levels..
Indeed as expected he is unplayable.
Also RIP RBT from piggy.
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@Arroz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/436089#Comment_436089
The legion rework looks fine too me, no more moonwalk
That's the only good looking change. Others... not so good. We'll have to see how it turn out on ptb and after.
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There have been rumours that they will rework her addons long time ago, but nothing happened at the end. So i think they won't touch nurse again for a long time.
And back to the question Legion needs more attention. I hope he gets a decent rework and not a massive nerfs to his power like it's looking to be.
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Nurse need a rework?
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Its worse when you and or your friends puts more than one bps and the killer dc for depip. I hate when that happens.
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i was thinking the same. Im waiting for this one to come out since plague release.
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What happened to the other leaked cosmetics like sky diver meg, wedding dress claudette, and night party kate?
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@Tzeentchling9 said:
If 115% is enough to end a chase, why aren't any of the M1 Killers tearing up the meta then? Why do Trapper, Wraith, Pig, Doctor, Leatherface, Freddy, and Clown all suck?
Trapper don't suck, you just need to place the traps properly and make your playground, when they fall it's a huge reward specially if you hook them in the basement.
But i agree with the thing that a 115% it's not what makes a killer good. A trapper is good by his power not his speed.
The less skilled killers like leatherface, freddy, wraith and pig suffer more from that because their power isn't very good. And all this ones suffer great from looping.
So back to the topic, a legion with an increased speed but a nerfed power is guaranted to be a trash killer sadly. The devs needs to re-think the changes a lot.
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It's not that hard to avoid her vomit, and you can always not use a fountain and make her weaker.
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If the devs keep going with the changes they are going to do, i agree with compensating with those buff as it is obvious that if they are going to nerf him, he will need a buff to be good in something.
A reduced terror radius is a very justified buff if deep wound would only deplete it's bar outside of legion terror radius. That will be a nice compensation.
Mending survivor auras showing with nurse calling will be also a good thing.
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That depends.. if the change will be exaclty as they described i give it a 1/10.
They need to re-think and have some balance and common sense, or legion won't be the same in any way. And that's not a good thing, because yes he needs some adjustments but that dosn't mean nerf him to trash tier and making him a boring m1 killer.
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I agree it's not worth it anymore with so many characters and perks. To get ruin lvl 3 in my p3 pig i spend like 5 million bloodpoints, it was insane.
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Lack of balls, and self confidence probably.. I play with everyone, i don't care if they are a 4 man swf. Some people just don't accept the challenge and want easy matches.
Oh and if you butthurt a killer sometimes is also a reason they dodge you.
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Freddy: Is it my time?
Entity: Yes, you are no longer the worst killer Freddy.
Haha +1 to you, F for Legion, R.I.P.
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You can mind game them in most windows, bait that you are going to a side and moonwalk, that will make them do mistakes and give you a chance to hit them.
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From the creators of The wheelchair Freddy nerfs post release,
Here it comes the part 2 of nerfed killers:
The Legion.. ¿Will he be able to smile after? Coming soon on in your nearest theater.
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@fluffybunny said:
@Ihatelife "Most" people is an overstatement. There's plenty who are fine or even happy with the changes and there's some that are waiting to see how it plays out in game. They've been needing an increase to speed for a while and their ability can easily be cheesed. Legion is very strong in 1v1 since they can ignore windows and pallets. With the changes, he'll be viable for chasing people down, too, without his power. Getting a free first hit and chasing down for a second is far better than having to chase people down with his power and hit them repeatedly.
If you would play legion a bit more you will realize that he doesn't need a speed change at all. His power with the righ addons and the right selections of perks makes him a decent and fun killer.
You say there are "plenty" who are fine with those absurd nerfs hes going to get, but i, many friends and a lot of people here are taking their time to comment and tell the devs that this changes are far for being balanced and will mostly, if not totally, damage legion making him a bad and boring killer.
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Sadly that will never change, it's part of the game, like a killer that can bodyblock a pallet and prevent them from using it, or just bodyblocking them for a desired purpose.
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@Mister_xD said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/429728#Comment_429728
not necessarily.
rework can also mean "buff" or simply a rework of how the power works with no balance changes.
like the wraith rework, or the spirit rework.
Well i hope it doesn't change her very much. I didn't like the augmented terror radius change they did, it ruined the fun with M&A.
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@CakeDuty said:
Seems like Pig will be getting a change.
Omg here we go again.. more nerfs.
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@Mister_xD said:
they said you would be able to bring down the timer with add ons.
you just cant do it with the basic ability anymore.
It looks like playing legion would be a nightmare is they do those changes. Better they work some balance there, like 2 hits only required to down someone, compensating for having to get an addon to do that an waiting for the power to be fully charged, or it will be another killer going to the trash bin.
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@Raccoon said:
Burn all your FMT's this weekend, they're not worth hanging onto.
What he says.. The offering will be retired after those big nerfs.
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@CallMeSpidey said:
You still get a free hit without getting looped.
You're at 115 speed.
It'll take actual skill/timing to get a hit in Frenzy mode in.
No more moonwalking exploit.
I hope they go through with the changes.
A majority, even on reddit were asking for these changes.
People are complaining that there have been no nerfs to Nurse, well...remember when she was 3 blinks and at increase speed?
Everyone goes through a nerf stage at some point.
You don't know what are you calling for. Those changes kill legion in every way.
For start, his power won't mean anything anymore, deepwound nerfed, power cancelled with a miss hit, longer recover time, slower run, and not been able to see bloodpools or scrathmarks. And im surely missing more nerfs.
All that in exchange for a faster mov speed... Its a total joke. All those changes would only make legion a boring m1 killer and harm him to a point that no one will play it anymore or it will be rare a see a legion after that.