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@XtremeDBD said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883427#Comment_3883427
Thats not all, if the legion is fast enough from previous hits, he can move away from a pallet before getting stunned
I have seen that as well! I have also been hit through downed pallets….which was strange. Not as dropping, standing on the other side of the pallet as if it isn't even there.
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@hermitkermit said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883620#Comment_3883620
You started by saying you didn’t understand why people disliked the mode, and when they explained, you dismissed their reasons as just ‘emotional’ because they weren’t positive like yours. But your own reason for liking the mode is emotional too.
So if emotions invalidate criticism, wouldn’t they also invalidate praise?
Either way, if you don’t care how people feel/what they think about it, thats fine, but then there is no point in starting a discussion about it, as communication is a two-way street. In any case I think it’s clear you’re not really looking for more than just agreement, and as I don’t think I fit in that category I’ll end it here so I don’t clog up your post anymore.
Gliyn!
I was making a statement of something I was reading on the forums, which of course you can see. I did not call out anyone or ask for any explanations. I also did not say my thoughts were positive at all, I clearly said all of that was my opinion. Opinions don't need explanations. The only things I dismissed was anyone trying to get me to have some kind of Eureka moment…..which clearly did not happen. I did not ask for a discussion either, if someone wanted to make a comment they could. I really don't have to discuss with anyone about anything. Many people disagreed with me, and they moved on. I applaud you for not caring what people think! I say that all the time! "What other people think of me is none of my business!" Good stuff! You too M8!
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@AGM said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883641#Comment_3883641
Idk if you've ever tried to play 1v4 while 2v8 is going on, but it's more miserable than usual. There are longer queues all around because many people (especially a lot of casual players) play 2v8, and so the only people left in 1v4 queues at my mmr are legit sweat lords. The occasional sweaty game is fine, but it's not very fun if it's nearly every game (as it is when 2v8 is going on).
Oof. Yeah, I am terrible at this game so I am always in casual matches. Lot of giveups/dcs/trolling. Never a dull match though! I still enjoy playing. I saw a video about the skill caps in DBD and you are either really good at DBD or really terrible it basically said. I am on the terrible end. I have played this game for years and none of my friends play it anymore, so I am in solo que all the time. I would think the competitive players wouldn't even bother with 2v8 as it is a total meme game mode.
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@Prometheus1092 said:
To be fair the zombies alone are enough to stop people doing gens or turn it into a survivor running from 2 killers then the zombie gets involved and you find yourself dealing with 3 enemies instead of 2.
I was on a gen with 2 other people and a zombie spawned right next to me. All 3 of us had to stop working the gen, lure the zombie away very slowly then continue the gen but then wesker comes dashing by to kick the gen that would have been completed if it wasn't for that 1 zombie smh.
Yep! Same in my matches. They spawn right on the gens and you have to ween them off or flashlight, or ye ole pallet drop.
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@AGM said:
I didn't start playing this PvP game to end up getting matched at the start with or against bots, and I don't intend to now. Full stop.
DbD is basically dead to me for this entire 2v8 event, because 2v8 screws over 1v4 queues too. So, if I'm either forced to play this game with bots, or play another game, I guess I'm playing something else. I was going to buy some RE skins too, but I'm not rewarding these devs for their poor decision making.
The bots are only added in the 2v8 mode, not the main game. You will get bots in the main game ONLY if your teammates give up for some reason. You can choose not to play the 2v8.
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@Peppa_Pigsaw said:
I don't personally get the hate for the bots, most of them are better at running than the actual human players. I just think it's people screeching just to screech.
Complaining about Legion in 2v8 is valid though because he is not okay.I feel the same way about the bots! I can say I am not bored on RPD with a legion! He has that bigger terror radius so makes me a nervous wreck! LOL! See ya out there!
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@hermitkermit said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883542#Comment_3883542
Sometimes tone can be difficult to convey over text both in writing and reading so if I’m incorrect in the interpretation of your tone, I apologize and I will try to clarify.It seems like you’re saying that criticism is only valid if it’s emotionless, but that’s not how discussion works. People can be frustrated and still provide valid feedback. One doesn’t cancel out the other. If a game mode is frustrating, that frustration is part of the feedback, not something that makes it invalid. Expressing how much you like the game mode is also feedback even though it involves emotion.
Perhaps you’re not aware of the way it comes across, but the way you’re using the word ‘triggered’ in this context is inherently dismissive. It’s not a neutral term—it’s a way to mock people for having a negative reaction, which is why so many have pushed back on it regardless if it was your intention for it to be mocking or not. As you’re not engaging with what’s actually being said; you’re just deciding that anyone who doesn’t like the mode is being too emotional to take seriously, which comes across as a way to avoid the discussion entirely if someone has a different opinion than your own.
Again, this is the way the messages are coming across. I’m not accusing you of saying these specific things or believing them, but the phrases you’re using, and the way you're dismissing feedback unless it meets your individual expectations of what you believe feedback is— comes across as intentionally dismissive or backhanded.(Also, for clarity, the example I provided wasn’t meant to show someone being emotional- it was to demonstrate how that kind of logic could be used to dismiss anything, even when it shouldn’t be. If I clarified that someone was frustrated because they got into a match with a cheater, and then voiced their frustration about wanting a fair game, that doesn’t mean their feedback about not wanting a cheater in the game because it frustrated them, isn’t valid.)
I am not too concerned how my statement came across. I made a statement. I was not talking about anyone in particular at all. If the phrases I use illicit responses in other people, I cannot control that. The only thing I can control is my own actions or reactions.
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@OrangeBear said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883597#Comment_3883597
You opened a Discussion, on a Forum and i made a Comment.
If you're here to make statements then you don't even need to respond to my comments.
I really don't appreciate your dismissive attitude.Ok. Again, not everything needs a response. You can choose not to make a comment, especially shouldn't get emotional if the response is not what you wanted.
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@Foxtrick said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3882880#Comment_3882880
You clearly haven't played 2v8 as survivor long enough because if you had, you'd realize how untrue that statement is
This is my own point of view, in my games it is very true. LOL! I been playing this game for years, so yeah….
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@OrangeBear said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883586#Comment_3883586
Because the discussion isn't going to be constructive if you don't try to make people understand your point of view. Why should we "Control your reactions to your emotions" if you don't explain why we should?
I am not asking for a discussion? It is a statement? Maybe you should ask yourself why? Or ask yourself why not? Only you can answer that question. Statements don't need discussions. Everything doesn't need a response.
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@OrangeBear said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883577#Comment_3883577
You stand by, yet you can't explain it?
You ok there? Why would I need to explain anything to you? It's a statement. It doesn't need explaining. Pretty cut and dry. LOL!
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Same! I haven't had one boring match at all! See ya out there!
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@OrangeBear said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883560#Comment_3883560
Then why make that statement?
Why not make that statement? I stand by what I said….
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@Leon_Loves_Cheryl said:
I'm having a total blast with 2v8. I really do love it. It's the best DBD has ever been for me personally. I just wish the queue didn't take 15 minutes for Killer.
Nice! I haven't played killer on it. Makes sense though! I have had some interesting games for sure. Definitely not bored! If you see me working a gen have mercy on me! LOL!
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@solarjin1 said:
2v8 is still the most fun i ever have playing this game. The bots are extremely bad but in my opinion better than the average terrible player u get in the 2v8. Yeah bots aren't gen productive but they go for saves and heals when needed. In my experience your average teammate will go down immediately in this game mode so they not even that much better at looping. The bots like to pre-run so they will stay alive longer but they also just less gen productive because of that. I
Totally agree! I did a post not long ago about DCs and quitting. I legit just had a match with two players quitting in 2v8 after one hook…LOL! I find that to be pretty silly. At least bots don't quit. Bots gonna bot. I am glad you are enjoying it! See ya out there!
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@OrangeBear said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883504#Comment_3883504
"Control your reactions to your emotions" is saying that the way people are currently reacting is a problem to you, why is it a problem for people to react emotionally?
Never said it was a problem for me? I made a statement. If you want your emotions to run your life, that is on you. I choose not to. The only thing I can control is my reactions to things. That includes reactions to my emotions.
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@BorisDDAA said:
Another one that gaslights you with "bots are fine"
There it is! The "Gaslight" comment! Mention people being triggered and it is sure to follow! LOL! I don't mind the bots, that is all I said…derp.
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@hermitkermit said:
Hey, It's great you're enjoying the mode. I'm glad you'e having a good time!
But, respectfully, framing valid critcism as people veing "triggered" or "too emotional" comes across as very dismissive. The reality is that many players have expressed clear, reasoned concerns and criticisms they've had about the mode, and brushing all of it of as an overraction rather than actual experiences that matter, doesn't come across as having good faith nor does it add to the overall discussion.
Also, to be honest you could justify anything with that response. "This person was clearly hacking, I loaded in and they completed every gen in 2 seconds and floated around the map and I could't reach them." "It's just a game, they're having fun don't be so emotional."
It being a game doesn't mean is it immune to critcism, nor does voicing those critiques make you an emotionally triggered individual. Your opinions, just like others can completley change the game, because the game is always subject to change based upon feedback.
I'm sure the devs will appreciate hearing your praise for the mode, as positive feedback is just as important as negative.
The "feedback" I have read is what I am talking about. I said what I said and would say it again. Criticism is fine, if you leave out emotion. Once you do that it is based on emotion and not actual constructive feedback. The example you gave I would not call emotional…maybe learn the difference if you are going to have an opinion on it. I have not once said do not criticize? Where are people reading that? People see "triggered" and get triggered. LOL!
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@CryingHex said:
So, when i first started dbd i used to play on the ps4 but i didnt buy the full game i just kept only buying psp plus, then when i decided to fully buy the game it worked and i didnt need to buy ps plus anymore, but then when I bought the ps5 i went back into dbd which was still purchased but then when i entered the game in couldnt click either survivor or killer without it asking me to buy ps plus, when i had already bought the full game, so i could enter the game but only the selection menu and even play the starter things but not the actual games
You still need PS PLUS to play I think? I play xbox and we cannot play on xbox without Gold etc to play online.
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@Belzher said:
Queues are brutal, and they will never fix this by just giving more bloodpoints.
For killer? I remember it being about the same last time they had 2v8. But I don't play killer much.
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@tjt85 said:
There's nothing wrong with the player base voicing their opinions and giving constructive criticism. And that's mostly what I've seen from people on the forums, not people being over emotional about a video game. After all, that's partly why BHVR maintain this forum, so they can hear our feedback.
My feeling is that Killer is an absolute blast in 2 V 8. But the Survivor role is currently very under developed. We should have at least 6 new Survivor classes to try out by now. The novelty is wearing thin for me and I don't personally feel much urge to join the Survivor queue. I mean yeah, I'll still play a few games here and there, but for the next two weeks I'll be playing less DBD.
It might be that myself and others on the forum are among a tiny minority of players not enjoying the latest 2 V 8 so much. That's fine I guess. If Survivors keep queuing up in the numbers they have for previous iterations, I'd be willing to conceed that most players do infact enjoy 2 V 8 for what it is - a silly low stakes party mode. Maybe they don't need to change anything and I'll just sit the mode out next time it returns.
I get that! I guess it is just silly that SOME players don't see this game mode as a chance to have fun and do something different. It is obviously not a serious mode of the game, not saying DBD is serious to begin with. Fact is, no matter what the game mode had or didn't people would still feel some type of way. Don't likey game mode, don't play game mode. Simple. Not everything needs a reaction or response.
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@100PercentBPMain said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883502#Comment_3883502
I am Goku in real life...I always try my best and want to face the world's strongest. Being chased by 2 killers at once really fires up my competitive spirit.
rock on! It does feel nice to juke two killers who are chasing you! I was in a game earlier where a player got a double stun on them somehow. LOL! I think we were all surprised!
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@Iron_Cutlass said:
I think it is fine and cool that you are enjoying the gamemode, but disagree with the approach of not allowing people to hold an opinion on the gamemode if it is remotely negative. You can express how much you enjoy it, but people are also allowed to express how much they dislike it, both should be and are fine.
Based on the feedback Ive been seeing, both on and off the DBD Forums, people really dislike this version of 2v8, specifically from the Survivor side, because of the changes (and lack of changes) made to the role. Queue times, as a result, are longer even with the introduction of bots to "help with queue times" since people dont want to play the gamemode at all.
I sat in a 50-minute queue for 2v8 Killer, just for some perspective. 2v8 Survivor queue is instant, people just dont want to play it.
I am not "not allowing people to have an opinion" that is silly and makes no sense. I don't see anywhere I said people can't dislike the game mode, at all. I am saying maybe don't be so emotional over a video game…basically. Control your reactions to your emotions. I know I sure try to. That is all we can control at the end of the day, our own reactions.
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@100PercentBPMain said:
2v6 is boring because it's easy win for killer;it's like bullying children. Except when you play survivor you have 2 killers humping you thinking they are great for strategically ignoring the useless bots.
IImagine Loading in 1v4 and 1 survivor just never shows up. That's 2v8, every game. I play this mode competitively but it's the integrity of this mode has been compromised
You play this mode competitively? Ok. Not sure what to say to that. I have won several games in 2v8 as survivor. I don't play killer at all though.
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@ChuckingWong said:
I would just do baskit unbreakable and have the perk do something else.
You should be interacting with the hooks, thats why the devs put them there.Slugging should be a short term thing, not disabling several minutes for multiple people in a match.
Faster bleedouts would just make slugging MORE prevalent. We dont need that.Bill saving us again! Borrowed Time now Unbreakable! Make another of his awesome perks not great. Very strange place the game is in once again.
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@Jadelysta said:
Glad you are having fun with it, wish i could say the same but Bots & Legion killed it for me.
I will say I don't think I have escaped one game with Legion in it. Did have one very bad legion that I just kept stunning, but that is few and far between. Not sure how fast they get their power back though? RPD map is very intense with a legion.
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@PleaseRewind said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3883460#Comment_3883460
I have no feelings about your post either way so I guess you aren't referring to me then.
Guess not chief!
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@iuse2bgood said:
Its the bots. Those are the complaints. Nice deflection.
LOL! Complaints are complaints, no matter the reason.
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@Jspect said:
I love Ada's new outfit but there's something really ugly about it. With TAA disabled you can quite literally see through her hair. I've tried my hardest to ignore it but its SO noticeable, it gets worse in-game. You shouldn't even be able to see her ears.
TAA OFF + LOW:https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/1W1MBHE7Z1NV/image.png
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/LMP2P5A3POLO/image.png
It gets less noticeable by turning up your graphic settings, but even then, if you have TAA disabled you'll still see her ears. I don't wanna hear "just turn up your graphics" or "turn on taa", I shouldn't have to nuke my performance for better looking hairWhat is TAA? I play on xbox series x.
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@danielmaster87 said:
Yeah, I don't see it either. This mode brings something to the game, like it or not. Everyone, for years, was asking for exactly this: a 2v8 mode. But now they're backpedaling and saying, "This mode was never gonna work! Only a crazy person would think this a good idea!" The only thing they said before was that it would be killer sided because both killers would go around both sides of the loop, and down the survivor, which even I agreed with at the time. But to say those last 2 iterations were anything but survivor sided is just wrong. No bots, less killers, and just as ridiculous maps and abilities. I don't see a gigantic shift between those old ones and this new one, except for the inclusion of bots. They are doing something, just aren't playing as efficient as they should for being bots. Nobody enjoys playing with them as opposed to another real human. But if the bots are removed, the killer queue will be even crazier, because it's ridiculously long as it is. So on that situation, the devs are between a rock and a hard place.
I have been in a couple games where the killers seemed to work together, but for the most part if people are doing objectives the killers cannot be everywhere at once. I have gotten out of very few games, couple by sheer luck the hatch spawned next to me. I try not to take this too seriously and know that killers are having a blast I would hope! I am also getting some good looping practice in! Which I definitely need because I am terra bad at looping.
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@PleaseRewind said:
Just because you don't enjoy something it doesn't mean you are necessarily "upset or triggered. It often just means it's not for you. I'm just not a huge fan of the mode but glad you are having a blast.
If this post got you in your feelings, then I am probably referring to you. OR the multiple posts in the forums of people raging about this 2v8 is the target audience.
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@Rogue11 said:
I wish you all the incredible bot teammates you could ever ask for.
Bots gonna bot my guy! This whole game mode is a meme.
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@XtremeDBD said:
Its even more Survivor sided now. Having pampered solo queue players with all these new machanics like cage state restoring herbs, faster mend times, its still obviously survivor sided. The bots are also insane at doing gens, as long as you can loop the killers for long enough
Uhhh….I have seen us get stomped way more than win against killers. I play survivor, and as long as they are pressuring you won't get out. I think it also depends on which killers. Trapper seems to be good at creating chaos with his traps, and if a legion is in the match I haven't won one of those yet.
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@buggybug said:
Hell no just delete the mode period.
LOL! You don't have to play it my friend. I think it is fun and a break from the normal, plus the bloodpoints are noice too. I can also get some of my tomes I skipped done.
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@MaddieMage said:
Every single match I’ve played today in solo has 2 bots. Every match I’ve played both killers only go after the non-bot survivors. They tunnel them out quickly because the bots are clearly easy pickings so if they take out the real players first, it basically guarantees them a 7-8K
So the most useless players, the bots, always survive until the end because they’re ignored the whole match making it essentially a 2v6 as others have said. And they’re not ever on gens. They simply run around the map trying to stay away from the killers terror radius. I had one bot save me from a cage all day.Bots gonna bot! HA! I had a match where they were blocking the cage and I couldn't unhook. I was SCREAMING at my screen and my dog started howling. LOL! 2v8 is a MEME! Fun tip if a bot is opening a chest or trying to get a plant just do a teabag next to them and they will move.
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@PetTheDoggo said:
Just stand under pallet and stun him when he hits you so he can't get more hits…
Right! I have had several legions in 2v8. Same as when you are in a regular game….
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@WolfePhD said:
I haven’t had a chance to play yet. I’m still on the clock. I’ve been watching multiple people play 2v8, but a lot of the matches have 3 bot players instead of expected 2.
When I played 2v8 the first time, DC’ing never happened. I maybe had 1-2 DC’s the entire night (10+ games) when I played 2v8 the second time. What went wrong? ☹️
I was looking forward to playing after work … 😥Wait? You just installed "Quit By Daylight?" Welcome! Once we all agree 2v8 is a meme….people won't care so much.
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@I_CAME said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3882880#Comment_3882880
This is the mother of all gaslighting efforts when it comes to DBD. Bots are not better than most teammates in any capacity. The current version of bots are completely useless at everything. They're so bad that I don't know why they even exist in the game. They seem like target dummies for killers more than anything else.
Maybe in the 2v8…I play solo que as all my friends quit this game years ago…in one out of two matches I get bots from people quitting. Or worse they stay and throw. Bots have a place or they wouldn't be in the game. Most players are either really good at this game or really bad…most are target dummies for killer. LOL!
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@LordGlint said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3882816#Comment_3882816
I've only played 1 game so far today, but there was only 1 bot. Funny enough, the Dwight bot actually was one of the survivors with the most BPs, lol.
Bots are sometimes better than regular players. Lot of folks give up or troll if they make a mistake….
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@CakeDuty said:
Now survivors are just dodging lobbies with 2 empty slots, because they're gonna get filled by bots. So first we gotta wait 10-15 min to get a lobby and then more to find survivors willing to play with bots. :/
Anyone else encountering this?
I have a feeling BHVR is adding two bots in each map. I have yet to see more or less than two bots per match.
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@SelectDevotee68 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3882268#Comment_3882268
Did you read the post at all? If we're doing away with exclusivity, might as make Legacy a reward for P100 a non licensed character.
SO your solution for a problem, is the same problem? Derp.
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@Iron_Cutlass said:
Im actually really, really tired of losing hooks because the game just decides to not play the audio of Flashbangs/Firecrackers being dropped, so I get instantly blinded while going to a hook or going around a corner with basically no counterplay whatsoever.
And it's not even a case of "well, maybe I need to listen harder", it just outright doesnt make the dropping noise sometimes. It makes no sense.
Worst part is that I bring it up to other people, and it feels like Im being gaslit because people are acting like it's normal and fine when it very clearly isnt. This has been an issue for months and months, and it has yet to be fixed.
Like please. Im tired. :(
Run lightborn. They aren't going to fix it, this has been an ongoing topic for ever. Only solution exists right now, also why they probably won't fix it.
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I been playing this game for years and there has always been negativity surrounding it. Always. The only thing I can control in my life is how I respond to things. DBD seems to illicit an emotional response, which is likely due to why it is so popular. I am looking forward to the 2v8!
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@SelectDevotee68 said:
Behavior has been removing exclusivity from most cosmetics. First the event crowns, then the event masks, and now the event charms and Rift cosmetics/charms. Since Behavior has been removing exclusivity from dbd, I think it's about time they turn the prestige portraits and legacy cosmetics into P100 rewards. The portraits and Legacy cosmetics are some of the only exclusive cosmetics left, and yet they haven't been touched. If they turned the legacy cosmetics into rewards for P100 a character, then they'd be able to add more legacy cosmetics as well as make P100 a character special.
Weird. Complain about no exclusivity and then ask for an exclusive that is in place to be released. Weird. LOL!
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I guess I have been playing the game too long. We used to hang by the gate to get killer hits on us for BPs. I don't see it as toxic to "bounce up and down."
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Get them both! I prefer the Dredge skin out of all of them! I grabbed that one and haven't even played dredge. To my surprise I got a really cool banner with the purchase! I wonder if you get a badge or banner with these too?
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@Hunkulese said:
Items and add-ons aren't comparable at all. Survivor teams also get 16 add-ons every game compared to the killer's 4.
Also we get unlimited heals. I always thought that was a bit strange. I main survivor, but used to play killer and stopped after the Spirit release. Seems the killer side of the game just kind of went boop for me.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3881864#Comment_3881864
There would need to be a proper form of context for Ragequitting, one could assume that since Disconnection's are not reportable this would be the player Giving up.
You have your obvious answer's, Game starts, survivor get's hooked before a generator get's done and they force there hook states or continue to refuse normal play and remove themselves from the match outside of Diconnecting.
But then theres the more complex ones.
There are 2 Generators left, Survivor A is working on a Generator, Survivor D has been sacrificed and Survivor's B and C are unfortunatly across map, both on hook in 2nd stage.
Both Survivor B and C give up on hook because Survivor A has not left the Generator to come save them for 40 seconds.
Are Survivors B and C reportable for giving up or is Survivor A, as they refused to unhook there teammates and pointlessly finish a generator. Or are none reportable?
This also asks, can you submit a ticket for giving up? Do you need video evidence to submit to make it legible? There is nothing specifying it in the game rules.
As for them determining the difference from Ragequit and a legitmate Disconnection, i have no idea if they even can.
makes sense! I guess this is more of a venting post as there really are no solutions for peoples behavior. I once again had several matches yesterday with this kind of stuff. I have givin up on hook before when it is just me and another survivor left and several gens, simply so they can get hatch. Sometimes the other teammate understands what is taking place, and sometimes they try to save me. LOL!