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That is the main reason I love the abandon feature, no more waiting for the killer to hump and bleed out at 99% after they bm the third person on hook for their STALE repetitive animation that is available in store and YouTube.
A lil bias I confess from myself Wesker/Ji-Woon/Vecna are the only 3 respectable and cool moris cause those are the killer I like to vs and play as and their is not over excessive compared to most killers. Overall other than said 3 I never liked moris overall. Like the person above me says yes its pretty much feels humiliating and am not gonna hide that. Where at least the entity plays a COOL animation that I died and am being send to heaven or least hell(entity version) xD.
They should never have brought this thing and whether people admit or not while slugging was always a thing it got way worse when bots and now the finisher mori was added.
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@BillsWrinklyballs said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3928637#Comment_3928637
Now type this in a coherent sentence so I can understand you.
Oh you just made this account just now, probably someone who was already banned before, pretty common lol.
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Use your 50+ info perks, scratch marks and blood pools. This topic and that video reeks of just usual survivor complaints. He literally sounds like he wants all survivors loud as a damn jane/Jeff am glad devs dont bother with some of this. The equalization thing was cause of iron will nerf and it was bull and unneeded and was mostly the qq of spirit mains.
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@BillsWrinklyballs said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3928597#Comment_3928597
Don't be so dishonest and just say that players pick certain survivors to gain an advantage. Why do you think Renato, Ace or Ada have such a high pick rate?
I Play Leon Yoichi and Trevor so your question is irrelevant.
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I did only the requirements for the awards and wont look at it again as it seem they just gonna keep adding obnoxious killers as if spirit and mend simulator was not bad enough.
What is next ghoul and Hound master? As per every 2 v 8 only collect the stuff and go back to regular mode. Double tapping is boring too as usual. Sorry I love my perks and I hate chaos.
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More qq nerf survivors. Run stridor its been buffed back to counter iron will. Also with the 50+ aura reading perks and add ons, people still can't find survivors who are quiet? Pathetic and petty. We can't have 3 quiet survivors over the other 40 loud ones?
No surprise its always a spirit main complaining about as no other killers seem to have an issue and she's still op with no counters so if he wants that then she needs more nerf like the nerf they didn't give her to kick dust up while phasing
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@Langweilig said:
Just had a match on garden of joy and NOT ONE of these stupid jungle gyms had A SINGLE WINDOW.
You can‘t seriously call this balance devs!!!!There is no way you get anything done on this map. You are treating your survivor players so bad. There was no chance to win on this map. Why do I even need to play when I will lose from the beginning due to insanely unfair map design?!?!? I should just be able to leave when I have 0 chance at winning!!!! What am I supposed to do with almost no pallets and no ######### windows!!!!!
Jungle gyms should have windows!!!Same in the borgo realm. There the jungle gyms also have no ######### windows!!!!
I don‘t even need to talk about the coldwind jungle gyms, which are just bad, but at the very least they have windows.
The new double window, double pallet tile on the new desert map is also insanely bad. The windows are unplayable and if you play them the killer just runs half a meter around the wall and hits you regardless on how well you play. There you only drop the pallets and leave.
I really hope you fix those tiles, because there is no way anyone has fun in those matches or delete those maps if you are unwilling to balance them fairly.
They still say that eyrie, is survivor sided and from the time the rework and shrunk it I beg to differ. I sometimes just give up and just let people think what the want to say about maps.
I see survivor's brining killer sided trashwitch, killers brining surivor sided the game, maybe maps aren't x sided yet they are idk anymore. Overall agreed with you.
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@JPLongstreet said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3927460#Comment_3927460
Dunno what to tell you. Microsoft and Sony and Nintendo all resist changes to the achievements and trophies mightily. If it's still possible to get then nope.
Sony did change the trophy requirementment for hatch, when hatch was changed for having 3 people escaping to something else which I was believed was change to pen closed hatch with key though I already had the challenge done before they did. Can't speak for the other two companies though.
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I want to use my 100 escape cakes+ in peace from my Trevor 100 aready and I can't because either sides keep brining maps offerings making me having to use my 500+ sac wards between having to switch to my 3 p 100s Leon/Yoichi and Trevor.
I had a goal to make all my chars survivor and killer all to p 10 but I can't because of map offerings. It is annoying having be sitting on sac wards ever since they become common for months now .
Other asymmetrical games I played never had a bring map option unless it is a custom lobby. Get rid of them for peeksakes.
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How many of these topics are there now?
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This is the problem with this game, one thing is nerfed and indirectly affects others, let's take distortion for example. See now it works vs scratch Myers which is quite funny and helps to slightly counter scratch mirror Myers as Old distortion once all the tokens was gone the perk is useless now its actually j8ce vs him while useless on all the other killers like huntress who love using 5+ wall hacks.
Wraith/Artist/Nurse lightborn removed buffed them but hag got nerfed indirectly cause you would need a flashlight to burn her traps and now you can wipe them easily.
What am saying is people need to be careful what they ask for as it may indirectly affect something good or bad but I hate to say it in the end am glad scratch mirror is dead soon because everyone who runs it plays in the most obnoxious way nothing but hit and run, proxy camp for nothing but boring hook trade, free gen grabs. Turning my camera while trying to do a gen like 500 times out of being paranoid of being grabbed or hit is not my cup of tea and its not all the time I feel to wear head phones.
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@jesterkind said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3926717#Comment_3926717
I can think of six if you're counting altruistic anti-tunnel too.
Decisive Strike, Off The Record, Blood Rush for personal anti-tunnel, then Borrowed Time, Shoulder The Burden, Babysitter for altruistic. Maybe I'm missing a few though.
Where people often go wrong here imo is that they count things you can also use while being tunnelled, like Dead Hard or Resurgence, but those aren't really anti-tunnel so much as they are also useful in that context as well as many others.
Shockingly the only 2 I sometimes see is off the record and ds. I dont ever think I seen a single blood rush use even after its rework, shoulder the same thing only seen it when it was apparent people only was going for adept taurie. Don't see baby sitter or borrow time either which is shocking considering how strong baby sitter can be. The 3.0 overated duty of care is another perk I have not seen at all yesterday in my 8 hour stream.
You know the obvious its too op on swf. Hence why I call duty 3.0 because like blood rush and shoulder the burden while potentially strong there is still way better perks.
@iloveandhatethisgame said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3926666#Comment_3926666
yeah I can only think of 3 anti tunneling perks. These people exaggerate
I know couldn't help but still ask for giggles lol.
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@StalkingYou said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3925785#Comment_3925785
im not phrasing it in a very aggressive way lmao… when the killer goes for their objective quickly in response to survivors doing the same thing it is seen as a problem that must need fixing with 2 million new meta anti-tunnel perks and mechanics. if you ever complain about it as killer you are gaslit by others who will tell you you're just a bad player and those strategies are never needed ever.
its funny not only due to the fact that the same treatment (behavior-wise and balance wise) is NEVER given towards survivors, but in fact killers are blamed for complaining about survivors doing their objective quickly. it is literally never the survivor's faultFrom 700 anti tunnel perks to 2mil anti tunnel perks. Can you kindly provide some of those, I would love to try them or see how they work?
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@AmpersandUnderscore said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3925572#Comment_3925572
Just chiming in here for a couple of notes.
Fully agree that they have announced nothing on these mechanics, so almost everything is speculative.
Imo, "anti slugging" should target exactly and only 2 main things: what I refer to as "excessive slugging" and "slugging for the 4k".
Slugging for the 4k is pretty self explanatory, and could also be targeted by reworking hatch (again).
Excessive slugging is generally slugging as a strategy (not using hooks at all, deliberately, and not simply because someone is lurking for a save, for example), or slugging to bleed out. Generally this is everyone slugged to bleed out, or possibly one person being humped on the ground for 4 minutes.
And while this is just my opinion and speculation, these are the kinds of questions they asked about in the surveys, so at minimum there is evidence the devs are thinking about these cases also. What that mechanic looks like, I have no idea (nor does anyone else).
Secondly, there is exactly and only one reason I ever see anyone use the phrase "tUnNeLiNg GeNs", and that's because it's a phrase from a content creator who generally complains incessantly about survivors, and people who watch this person just mindlessly repeat these ideas. Even and especially when they have no basis in reality.
All this phrase actually means, is the killer not pressuring survivors, and it's somehow simultaneously the survivors' fault. Period.
In reality, if the killer is afk, survivor gameplay is "do gens and leave", and it's on the killer to give the survivors something other than gens to focus on (this is pressure). That can be a lot of things: killers power, "interactions" (body blocks, saves), healing and recovery, hexes or other perk counterplay, but usually the primary one is chases and hooks (one in time out, one going for save).
Any time I see someone say survivors are "tunneling gens", they're expecting and demanding that survivors do nothing until they're ready for them. Most of these people will hard tunnel and play killer like it's comp, even using "comp" as justification for why this play style is "necessary", while deliberately ignoring that comp survivor is literally "gen rush, pre drop, run to comp corner" with situational "body blocks or saves".
It is easy to know who you speak of but I wont call their name. I Had them blocked along with another for 3 to 4 years ago as they are the most biggest bias babies ever.
A survivor can even start pre running as soon as they hear their terror radius and they qq about it lmao. I guess we are to stand still and be in their line of sight for them to get a quick hit on us.
I think I vs one of their fan girl yesterday cause it was another streamer like myself and they was playing a pyramid head.
They was busy chasing a Leon clearly good at looping and me and my 2 man ( 3 man swf) was ofc doing the gens.
I decide at last gens since now they a wanted to tunnel Leon out so I took a down for free and they hook me instead, last gen pop and ofc it was the face camp.
Sadly hero Leon came in pulls me off anf die ( when I got hit into stage 2 ) as one of my 2 man is still new and unsure on how team saves work lmao so we got a 3s. End game chat said streamer said quickly yall gen rush that is why I attempt to camp and tunnel immediately leaves chat.
I kindly went in there and said maybe dont waste too much time chasing one person and gens will not go by so fast and left after they like ill ban you for that lol.
I kindly left anyway without a another word. As killer streamers 100x fold hate survivor streamers anyway like said person I know your speaking about
Yet if we ran head on and stun build they say oh bully squads who wont stay on gens. Idk can't win either way.
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@jesterkind said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3925366#Comment_3925366
I don't think gen defence is weak, at least not overall.
The perks are weaker, but even then, most of them work perfectly well as long as you're using them to support basekit slowdown, not replace it.
This is true and idk if its just me but I been seen an uprise of ruin being used again. Yet killers say how useless it is.
Can't tell you how some matches lately have been longer than expected worst if solo q cause ruin is in play and a strong Killer like ghoul is in play.
It may not work as good for some killer's as not all killer's work well certain perks but it does. Surge is good since it always work from a down as well, not sure though if it procs work if ruin is in play though? 🤔
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@Aven_Fallen said:
This happens when you close the game in any unexpected way. E.g. Task Manager or simply crashing. Then it resets to the same things you had on your previous start of the game, so Killer and Survivor which were picked when you started the game the last time and also any Items or Add Ons equipped (or Perk Builds).
Ah yes I had a Nasty black screen crashed (first time this happen) just as loading screen came up before trial start, thank fully I got no penalty but that real unexpected. Then again this patch ofc alot of things is BUSTED.
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@crogers271 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3925082#Comment_3925082
I'm jumping into the middle of the convo, but I think the following is missing the point @AmpersandUnderscore is making
Let’s get one thing straight: therealproblem isn’t that killers are too aggressive or unfair, it’s thatsurvivors are getting more tools than they need. They’ve got perks that let them heal across the map in seconds, escape from almost any chase, and slam out gens at lightning speed with little to no risk.With how perks have been treated, survivors have no reason to do anything but gens. Set up a circle of healing so survivors can self heal? Not just nerfed, eliminated. Go for a flashbang save or ftp+buckle up, nerfed on the former and, again, on the latter out right destroyed. Run a build to make yourself very hard to hook, which also really limited the area of the map you could pressure, nerfed.
Even things like MFT and Dead Hard that allowed survivors to more willingly engage in chase have been nerfed.
So what can survivors do? Well, you can load up on anti-tunnel, or gen perks, you can run an exhaustion perk to shift-w, and you run a chase build if you're really confident in your looping ability. But in terms of gameplay, you stay on gens.
There are some strong, situational perks, but they all revolve around 'just do gens'. Some of the game changes above should have happened, but being you're original post talked about why killers play the way they do, we need to look at the reason survivors play the way they do. There isn't a reason any more to get off the gen because all of the strong (and sometimes just more interesting) options have been destroyed.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3925045#Comment_3925045
Meanwhile, survivor-side changes roll out fast, broad, and with full dev blogs explaining the logic.As a few others have said, calling these fast is crazy given how long some of these changes have been. Even with things like anti-slugging and go next, BHVR has been saying they've been coming for years now.
As for explaining, partly this is due to interacting with the killer complaints. 3 gen change, AFC, we got lots of complaints (many outright absurd) about how these were going to be abused. BHVR's explanation is frequently trying to get killers to see what is happening (which is usually 'this isn't a big change at all, just don't do this one specific thing').
Don't forget stealth build nerf= distortion. I already said all you said in various posts but lately am a point that topics like these I skip over or let others talk lol.
Killers will always think the game is survivor sided and only survivors care for meanwhile I wonder why am still having long killer queues and when will I ever see bonus incentives for for killer.
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@100PercentBPMain said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3924544#Comment_3924544
The ol' "I'm death hook and yall haven't taken chase yet" maneuver
Or the opposite your not injured and 9 hook but your 3 teammates are death hook injured or dead. Imo bond users are 100x worst than distortion users. Solo q run bond and sprint burst in the more selfish of ways in my experience compare to distortion ones.
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Mean while in I wonder why killer queue times are still long and why survivor incentives been a thing for almost 2 years land.
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Don't tell me dredge ate him again.
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@TragicSolitude said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3924589#Comment_3924589
Tbh I'd want a perk that hides my aura from teammates but the killer is still able to see me, as you said sometimes your teammates are the real killers lmao.
Sometimes I'd really, really like survivors not to see my aura if I use Plot Twist. The killer having Deer Stalker? Fine; I reserve the right to complain loudly to myself, but yeah, they countered my perk. My teammates bringing the killer to me, however, is beyond frustrating.
The day my teammates stop killing me will probably be the day DbD hangs up its hat and shuts off its servers.
Even playing killer here and there I see this and like you seriously lead me to your injured teammate? I wont hook them if I hit them since I dont tunnel and that is the rare circumstance I slug so someone else gets them up.and go for the sandbagger.
Yeah, I try not to let sandbaggers get away with it: maybe I'll slug the victim, but I let them get back up. I am very, very grateful to every killer who does the same for me.
@ChuckingWong said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3924589#Comment_3924589
Yea there is so many situations I am in where I need a button that spams
"Please stop following me"Yes lol!!!
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@TragicSolitude said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3924528#Comment_3924528
Bond users love to sandbag at gens, and my god I've had so many Claudettes with Empathy run across the map (in chase) to me after I get unhooked and am at a pallet healing… in those situations, I decide I like the killer more than my "teammate": those Claudettes get a pallet to the face.
Tbh I'd want a perk that hides my aura from teammates but the killer is still able to see me, as you said sometimes your teammates are the real killers lmao.
Even playing killer here and there I see this and like you seriously lead me to your injured teammate? I wont hook them if I hit them since I dont tunnel and that is the rare circumstance I slug so someone else gets them up.and go for the sandbagger.
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@jesterkind said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3924528#Comment_3924528
That's a massive stretch on both counts, in my opinion.
I hope not many people dodge for perks this common and strong, or we'll have huge issues whenever this system drops.
Well I agree with you like distortion swfs use them properly like my 4 man cept me since I dont use exhaust perks, they use those perks correctly.
Solo q however use them wrong just like how they cause distortion to be garbage now. See even solo can affect swfs.
We shall see how this goes.
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@jesterkind said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3924516#Comment_3924516
…Sprint Burst? Bond?
Those are some odd ones. Why dodge those?
Bond= people sandbag when your on a gen by purposely running killer to you or other teammates on gens. They also sandbag by running killer to you injured who is injured, yet they are healthy or other injured teammates who just got unhooked. Finally big shocker, they use it to hide and let everyone die for hatch. They are 100x worst than distortion users.
Sprint burst= getting put in stage 2 hook from 1 exists still because people trying to save their sprint burst.
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I can't wait, if I see any urban, sprint burst, bond, trashovations, no mither, and boons out I go.
Edit= Scene partner because as soon as I see a Steve am also bouncing. That perk is atrocious and not funny to me period.
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Use Stridor. I Doubt she be even a popular pick and be a another Jonah, Taurie and what not . Geez 3 quiet survivors over the 40+ loud ones how terrible and game breaking.
Side note can we please then remove exhaust off iron will and let stridor, not counter it or off the record?
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@SoGo said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3922933#Comment_3922933
Ok, at least there's that. I just can't count.
@HunterRayder93 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3922959#Comment_3922959
For a moment I was scared that the pass wouldn't give you back 1000 auric cells.
There is usually that weird bug/glitch that sometimes make you get -25 yet the game seem to self fix it or devs patch it xd. Kinda strangely common as well.
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I wish this rule apply to bubba, billy and demo too. Its so no skill to just break a pallet immediately and being able to use your power again.
Wesker is the only one who can't even do that since after a vault he stops and his power have a hell of cool down compare to all the others mentioned.
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@xGodSendDeath said:
I bet survivors said they didn't like it in on Twitter so it's low key not going through. Whatever happened to that spawn change too where the survivors were going to stop spawning all separated on top of a gen?
Why the us vs them? You act as if killers do not bring map offerings too like boring scratch myers with indoor maps, nurses with mid witch, blights/huntresses with the now trash wind maps and what not. Both sides is annoying with it.
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If you use a purple flashlight with a low amp+green battery + street wise and build to last and even trevors perk that recharges your item when you get a stun off via a pallet, you pretty much can have a long forever flashlight. Same thing with green flashy.
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It is apparent the forums is more killer sided like the game is like come on I am not calling no names but I seen in a topic a person(survivor player) got 40+ downvotes. I have never seen any killer got that many, at most I saw was 20. Overall the reason alot of survivors refuse to indulge more (unless they dont care) is ever since the DOWNVOTE button was added. The button is just used for maliciousness and nothing more.
This is became reddit 2.0(another killer sided place ofc) Idk if steam forums has this as I do not indulge in steam community, I just play the game. Hell I am not perfect and I know I have my times that irritates people, but I know there are topics I do not complain or ask for nerf or something and literally agree with the topic even if not aint survivor related. Example I will agree with something like hey pyramid add ons are TERRIBLE.
Ofc I agree with that as he was interesting and can be fun to play as but even I know his add ons are very whack cept the ranged ones .I do enjoy vsing him as a survivor and feel he does need some love. Still will get that mysterious 1 downvote which is actually more annoying than multiple downvotes which indicates to me there is a person apparently who never speaks but if they see me post they push it lol.
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@Prometheus1092 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3921008#Comment_3921008
Again I don't expect a griefer like you to under the difference between stealth as a means to do the objective and stealth as a means to avoid the objective. The objective of survivor is gens. If people want to be rats and avoid gens, it's not ideal but I have my way of dealing with it. and when the anti hiding mechanic comes in people will understand that hiding to avoid the objective doesn't pay off.
Are you seriously under the impression I'm mad about something? I already explained I adapt and treat people as I'm treated, doesn't bother me personally but for the health of the game I offer my opinions lol.
You ask what the difference between mori bot and survivor? Answer is the same difference between custom matches v bots and PvP for some people. But honestly for me I don't care that much a win is a win for me but I wouldn't yank them out of the locker out of principle and my own form of justice. but in the same argument you have the power to do gens? So why hide?
I wasn't sure if you were being dense or a deliberate greifer but it's clear from this discussion your sole intention is to grief. Your not dense, you know exactly what your doing when you do what you do and your motives are crystal clear.
Your driven by attention it seems, as many griefers are. many times you say your done with replying to me but your compelled to reply each time... Very much like you relish in trying to grief players in your swf. Yet another thing to add to this of things you say but your actions say something very different.
I think the main issue with some streamers is that they don't play the game for their own fun. They play up to the crowd and if the crowd likes seeing someone get bullied some streamers will play to this to get viewers. Not all but there are streamers out there that care more about pleasing a mob of people laughing at someone being bullied than they do about actually playing the game. You certainly seem like one of those streamers. I play for me, you play for other peoples amusement like a puppet and play how they want you to play if it means getting more views. But streamers that genuinely play and don't act like a child seem fine when I play against them, they say GG, we have a laugh post game chat and move on. If you want to know why killers target streamers look in the mirror, because you give streamers a bad name and a bad rep imo.
Yeah good ways to try your pack of lies. You really trying I give you that but your failing. Your a hypocrite period and simple, the way you qq of swf or streamers for that matter all of you what your trying to justify because you ADMIT in every thing you post I tunnel swfs/streamers. Buddy I get alot of love vs hate tyvm because you can think in your delusional mind that am a toxic streamer but my 1k+ of videos says difference.
Just because someone acts a way on a stupid forum does not equal that they are actually like that on live/or in real so am sorry to give you a little education on this. I am driven by attention, says the one whos ready to counter point and say the most stupid non sensible thing to every survivor post. It can be as simple as why is this add on the way it is and your usually the first on spot to talk about skill issue or this and that.
Gimmie one post of me ever asking hey this is op or please nerf/change this. I doubt you will find any. You are so out of what to say that now your saying am grieving my swf LMAO that is a new one. So a group of friends all decide to do another game and its grieving.
Thanks for the laugh that really did made my day. You can call my griefer all you want but you are just as guilty of it for not doing your JOB. Also to add more on your ever hypocrisy it is you first who say oh your one of those survivors who is last go in a locker to deny being moried. Well I will just stare then for 1 hour. Would you like me to qoute that point for you?
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@Prometheus1092 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3920971#Comment_3920971
Firstly it's rare I hump people on the ground, I slug them hook. Only in extreme circumstances would I do that like a hacker that I managed to down. But you have openly admitted to being childish and hiding for however long in a locker with no reason other than your one of those griefers that throw a tantrum when they get caught.
Secondly once again your hypocrisy astounds me. You being the first person to instigate the petty immature action of deliberately hiding in a locker to avoid a mori knowing the match is over regardless then accuse someone like me that plays by your rules and acts as petty as you which you started, as being hurt ego killers? I fight fire with fire, play reasonable and I play reasonable. Play like a petulant child and I will play it your way. You seem to fail to understand that your the instigater, your the one that intentionally tries to abuse the system and go out your way to be petty first. If your getting humped on the ground that much I can honestly see why if you play the game that way. Definitely sounds like you have been griefing for a while and killers have been putting you down for it which you sound very bitter about.
Thirdly, I deal with swf my way which I won't say here because apparently it's not permitted in the forums but it is permitted in the game however. They use coms as a tactical advantage I use my own legitimate methods to counter it which works and inevitably upsets swf. Doesn't change the fact that I think swf has major advantages that solo doesn't have which is why when I'm going against soloq I get 4k at 4 or 5 gens but against swf I get 3/4k at 1 gen remaining by using my methods. I pride myself in being able to counter anything thrown at me, adapting and maintaining my wins even against op swf bully squads.
First off all learn to spell. Second of all the term survivor means to do all to you want to stay alive. If you wanna be stupid and not pull the person out the locker then its on you.
The hypocrite is you as in alot of posts you admit to tunnel or slugging to deny hatch specially when its vs swfs. Must I remind you a big hypocrisy of you is saying I hate distortion rats, am tired of people stealthing and not doing objective.
Then afterwards when there was a topic about do you think looping is fun? Your response is it takes no skill or is boring and you prefer stealth instead. Who is the bigger hypocrite? I dont be toxic to killers at all, killers just auto hate ttvs so even if we do a simple pallet stun or a 360 they get so pissed, like am to just stand there and let them hit me. Then again when people like you who do not stream ofc you wouldn't have a clue of this.
You should look up the term survival, of denying your stale mori makes you so salty tough ######### bro. If you think tombstone piece takes any kind of skill then do you bro, dont be mad when someone dont hand you your free mori. Your mad cause I use the counter design to your cheap style, does it say in the rules, do not use lockers vs a tombstone mori myers?
You have the power to pull them out and yank them and even if the leave you get the on the bot. Still can't answer my question bri what's the difference of watching a mori on a bot vs a person? Why so scared to answer?
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@I_Cant_Loop said:
There are definitely far more survivor mains (people who play killer rarely or never) than there are killer mains. There are a couple reasons: 1) It’s a matter of how the game is set up by numbers (4:1 survivor to killer ratio), and 2) the fact that killer is the more difficult role once you get to a higher skill level, so some people play killer a lot less once they get to this level.
It’s unfortunate that more people don’t play both sides, because that would eliminate a vast majority of the “us vs. them” toxicity and trolling that we frequently see here.
You are doing an us vs them stating that survivor mains only play survivor or not much killer yet killer mains play both sides evenly which is not true at all.
There are people who play only killer or very little survivor cause I have a friend who plays like 90% killer of time so anytime he does survivor which is with me and other friend, we gotta always be prepared to give instructions.
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@smurf said:
I only abandon to skip being slugged or skip the mori. And MMR change isn't a win or loss in my mind, so as both survivor and killer, I don't take any of that into account. Instead, I just use it to skip things I find annoying.
Besides, just because someone's MMR goes up or down doesn't mean they won the game. If I had the lower score at the end of a game of basketball than my opponent, but I advanced to the next round of a tournament through some quirk, that doesn't mean I won the game (unless my opponent got disqualified for cheating or something).
I agree no more being humped and bleed to 99% before mori has been such bliss.🤭
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@Prometheus1092 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3920925#Comment_3920925
Lol I'm aware of streaming multiple things but as a viewer if I'm streaming someone playing dbd and they hide in a locker then stream something else I wouldn't be switching to watch them be just as petty in a different game. As a streamer you should take onboard the views and opinions of the public also you admit to playing swf so while your streaming a different game what are your 3 team mates doing? Playing without you? Forcing them to play another game with you? You see how what you say makes no sense?😊 but no worries iv come across swf griefer squads before so I know your mentality and know there simply is no reasoning with your mentality. Impossible to find logic from illogical mindset. You do you 😁
Bro your just mad cause you can't hump and bleed out someone at 99% anymore and I get it. So make up all the if and butts you want. Yes we play another game when killers like you wanna be clowns and my audience too rather see something than a stare down or immature hurt ego killers like so you dont tell me how to stream as I been doing for 5 years and my viewers go with the flow so it does not bother them what I do, it aint even sometimes about the game you know?
Sometimes even joking and talking about stuff also is what makes streaming enjoyable as dbd am sorry to break it to youbis not the onlynsource of good entertainment. My friends dont stream so nice fair attempt there. Continue to brag about your 4ks yet complains at the same time about swf.
How do you 4k all the time but complaining about swf hmm? See how silly you sound? Anyways clown the show is over I shall not waste my time on you anymore as you are one of the biggest stage fest here and the most disliked. Sorry you have no friends why you ever booboo about swf, streamers just a miserable bitter person.
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@SeriousRain said:
Like... Why did they not change them. Just today I faced two killers with free mori addons... Oh wow so fun to play 3v5 at 4-5 gens and have 0 hooks, so cool and balanced guys.
Yep everytime I face a Myers I instant go in lockers even if its a slim chance they do not have it. They nerf the Judith which was like not even what we ASKED for as that one already had its limits. The piece is what we been asking about but you know like Sable players doing Sable things, bvhr does bvhr things.
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@Prometheus1092 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3920856#Comment_3920856
Ah well luckily for me I get 4k very very regularly. Actually don't remember last time the hatch spawned in my matches so I'm good.
You seem to make less and less sense as time goes on, you admit to doing other things in such situations such as play switch but also say you have viewers to keep entertained.... Ye that doesn't add up. People want to watch you hide in a locker for an hour? Due to the constant hypocrisy you spew out and the contradictions you say it makes very difficult to believe anything you say to be honest. Just makes you out to be a griefer that throws a tantrum when your caught.
Listen you if you dont know what multi streaming is and the ability to run more than one application then you may want to look up how to stream via Google or YouTube.
A capture card is a device allow me to easily stream a console game via stream labs. I play dbd on pc now. I have 3 monitor so 1 for dbd pc stream, the other for console capture card and the third for whatever I want on it. So hence I can play another game or do something as switch stream while you waste your time being a looney toon staring at a locker.
Hopefully you learned something, now I shall not waste no more time with you. Also your final I 4k all the time but is the same hypocrite who qq swf this swf that wah wah wah. Who is the one not making no sense? Or is hate distortion rats yet complains and say looping is boring and take no skill?
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@INOK said:
For now game have search option to speedup perk search but it is not perfect solution as sometimes you forgot how perk called so i propose to add also option to hide unwanted perks from perks screen so this way you will get much shorter perks list that will improve needed perk search. Why hide unwanted perks is good idea because many perks not very good anyway to use them so why not just hide them and decrease clutter in perks list. Ideally need to fix useless perks but that is very unlikely to happen so at least give option to hide unwanted perks.
I support this cause 90% survivor perks are so trash anyways.Like no mither and trashovations will be the major ones I'll hide.
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@Prometheus1092 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3920847#Comment_3920847
Oh I love it when people like you do that lol. Many times last survivor will hide in a locker under the impression they are preventing me getting the achievement, I just stand by the locker and wait. If a survivor is going to be petty like that I will do the same. They get very annoyed when they find out I had that achievement long ago.
I haven't had an issue with people leaving me on the ground to 99 as survivor but then I escape often so I suppose I wouldn't witness that.
well enjoy you skill free DC to save your precious eyes from witnessing your own defeat because i can almost guarantee it won't stay as it is for long 😊
Yawn yeah stay at the locker all you want while I play my switch or simply stream another game because my pc can handle more than one game lol and I also have a capture card to stream a console game too.
I care not about your achievement it is more denying your stale animation while my audience and I laugh at you as we do other things.🤗 You are correct my eyes are certainly precious how kind of you.
You can also enjoy yor bags to pick up at the gate or go take out your defeat on the pallets and breakable walls to ease the anger.
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Lol.
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@Prometheus1092 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3920833#Comment_3920833
How do you not see the hypocrisy lol? I could say if you hate mori animation so much just watch YouTube while it's happening. You pretty much are complaining about killers that smack on hook, but replace smack on hook with mori. I have a feeling it's people like you that DC mid mori when I tombstone them...I mean why? The DC penalty is longer than the Mori but they just can't bare to have a taste of their own medicine. Drop pallet, tbag, drop pallet, tbag, drop pallet, tbag, TOMBSTONE! DC. the hypocrisy is astonishing.
When survivors DC abruptly like that it always looks like they have thrown a tantrum and shut everything down in a rage like a child.
Am sorry you wont be able to hump on ground for 99% of my bleed meter before moring me . Am sorry I think I know the same stale animation 1 million times.
What does Myers has anything to do with this? Ok ill bite when I see one I instant go in lockers all the time so unlike other survivors you ain't getting me with your no skill tombstone piece so try again.
Also I do not DC in games cause am play with a 4 man and am a streamer which means I got a community to please and show am not weak minded to dc in normal play, if am the last one and down the game is over may as well save myself more time and my viewers too DO NOT CARE about your stale mori. Try again and you have yet to answer the difference of moring a bot vs a player.
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@adawong300 said:
Constantly. Constantly. Every match my aura is constantly being read. Distortion has been the only counter to this, and, with its recent nerf, it makes it almost useless.
Either revert these changes or limit Killer aura reading perks. It is getting so ridiculous and tiresome constantly being located at any given moment.
This game was fun because there used to have tension. Now, its just being found, 2 second chase, instant down. Some players will simply never be able to run insane loops. Even with my 1500 hours. If anything, slow down gen progression to balance instead of giving us 100 perks to chose from and then nerf them all into uselessness.
This also feels like part of a larger problem where solo queue is being nerfed due to SWFs. Create separate game limitations for SWFs so solo queuers no longer have to pay the price.
While I agree with you and hope some day they consider making aura reading stacking no longer a thing, distortion nerf was solo q fault not swfs.
My 4 man and I ran it with particular build which usually then may make said killer DC or give up. We save heal, take hits, hook trade, take chases and What. Solo q ofc didn't really do as such.
However even after its nerf people aka solo q still hides without it. Its just beyond no skill that killers have add on and perk that shows survivors now for EVERYTHING they do. .
I had a Jane yesterday did nothing but urban around the entire map as me and the other 2 did all the gens, take chases and what not. The 2 died and I barely on my death hook and injured escaped after she open the gate and dont even try to have be there to take a hit. She had no distortion btw.
Until more people start making a riot like how killers make a riot about things survivors had like endurance stacking it won't change.
BBQ is only healthy and fair aura perk imo with locker use. However telling me to hide in a locker to avoid no where to hide is the most funniest thing ever since smart killers will check any close by lockers by gens and then what? You just gave away free pressure.
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@LockerLurk said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3920731#Comment_3920731
Friend I wouldn't bother with them. I've NEVER seen that user comment in good faith, ever. I recommend just blocking them and their heavy bias, in this case towards Survivor.
Oh really but who agreed with your complaint on map idea offerings? I had agree with some things you said compared to others a fair amount of times but aight lol.
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@Ryuhi said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3920463#Comment_3920463
Trying to stay neutral, regardless of my prefered role, is not "acting pure." I have biases as well, we all do. I just keep them in check and focus on being constructive, like we all should. Stating you claim flashbangs are not worth using is different than what you said and how you carried yourself, which was my point. You were simply a good example that people can hopefully learn from. Just be less antagonistic and stick to opinions rather than instigating toxicity.
Blast mine is superior in every way which means completing the objective and ofc waste killers time if they wanna kick so happily. So am getting the best of both worlds. Its typical that when a survivor perk is nerf to garbage and no longer want to use and question why bother.
Yall wanna sugar coat oh but the perk is still fine, great which is pretty much more of sarcastic hahahaha serves you right. Yall do the same with perks like coh/dh/distortion and many other perks I can think of. If anything yall sound more upset that said survivor that they choosing better things over something that is giving no value.
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@Prometheus1092 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3920636#Comment_3920636
Hmm interesting that survivors can't bare a few seconds to watch a Mori but killers are expected to endure tbagging at the gate... I can almost guarantee if killers had the option of abandon when survivors are in the gate area and have it registered as a draw instead of a loss there would be a lot that would have an issue with it. A mori takes a few seconds, so I wouldn't say they can be loading for another match ages ago like it takes 5min or something.
The shop and youtube exist for the same animations over and over. I will walk up and whack any t bagging survivors out the gate because
1 = I will take the extra bp
2= I do not have a frail mind
Stop that few seconds excuse because its not EVERY killer has just a 5 second mori. If chucky is not a prime example. If you hate t bags at gate , switch to youtube or something or break some pallets/walls. DBD is not the only game that t bagging exist and no one complains about it on other games , just like swf no one complains about it like dbd does. It is pathetic again this is the one game where something common swf/t bag exist and people complain. Shall I complain about killers who smack on hook simply cause they couldnt catch you, you ran them for x amount of gens, you pallet save/flashlight save a teammate?
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I personally don't do it cause it makes me no better than the rage quitter, I'll just hook them and be done with it heck it even helps vs some annoying challenges like using a killer power who am not fond of, I much rather just finish the game asap.
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@_Demidrol said:
At first, this system seemed like a good idea—why wait 4 minutes, bleeding out on the ground or suffering because everyone disconnected and you're left alone? But now, in every match, if the last survivor is downed, they immediately disconnect. If I wanted to watch Mori animations on bots, I could just do that in the store.
And now there's a new message from the developers saying that even when the killer is left 1v4 with bots, leaving the match counts as a loss!
My suggestion: make it so that abandoning the match is only possible 30 seconds after everyone is downed, or 30 seconds after the last survivor enters the dying state.
And in a 1v4 situation with bots, the killer should be allowed to leave the match—and not only should that count as a win, but also as a completed match for challenges.
What's the difference of moring the last survivor person vs moring the bot? I dont think a player cares to waste their time watching a stale animation a million times when they could have long been loading for another match ages ago
Anytime I see this complaint only comes to mind that killers are frustrated they can't dry hump last person on floor for 99% of their bleed out before then moring them specially if its a streamer like myself since killers seem especially to target ttvs since their mind is every ttv is evil.
As a streamer I have people to keep my viewers entertained and my viewers dont care for stale animation more killers with their ego. Now the oh I made this streamer mad video to post on whack toc has finally come to an end.😎
