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  • @SenzuDuck said:

    Why argue points when I type something like this

    I was answering to this :

    @SenzuDuck said:

    Survivors die more than they survive, there are no balance issues.

    Just commenting on how much you can twist and willingly misinterpret things to fit your narrative depending of the subject.

    I had nothing else to add, hence why i encouraged you to read it again.

    and your reply is one sentence? You can't argue your side and instead ignore all points made by other people so you can then call them out later in a conversation and say "you're out of arguments" when it's you that shys away from them in the first place.

    Replying to what ?

    This ?

    @SenzuDuck said:

    Oh yea, that stat they released one and a half years ago that people like you constantly bring up, LOL.
    You defeat your own arguments one after another.
    As if stats don't change or anything?

    all in all, another useless post from Giche that means nothing.

    Strawmans, ad hominem...

    Are you blaming me for not taking the bait ? lmao

    I never bringed their stats as an argument, the only time you could see me mentioning it was in answers to peoples like you who always used it as a proof that SWF isn't a problem.

    I personally never trusted anyone of the Devs stats, they are ALL skewed from the get go, hence why not reliable.

    But hey, i wonder why i even bother, you are not here to discuss anything.

  • @yeet said:

    that would be fun, i enjoy competitive games.
    imagine saying "OMG IT WOULD BE RIDICULOUS TO BALANCE THE GAME PROPERLY" as an argument

    Silly huh ?

    Even more fun is the fact that it worked for 2 years long lmao

  • @SenzuDuck

    No u.

    Lul keep lowering the bar, that's what you do the best .

  • @SenzuDuck said:

    all in all, another useless post from Giche that means nothing.

    Don't complain about your lack of reading comprehension if you're not even willing to read what others has to say lol.

  • The fact that many people are liking his comments is sad but honestly I’m not surprised with how immature and illogical this community can be

    You know what are they enjoying in his posts ?

    The fact that he can spew as much non sense as possible to start flamewars without facing consequences, and the facts that peoples still reply to him even knowing his usual shenaningan.

    And that peoples replying to him, unlike him, has to choose their words carefully.

  • @SenzuDuck said:

    Survivors die more than they survive, there are no balance issues.

    You are usually the first to say : escaping =/= winning.

    That a PIP is enought, and that the killer should content himself with it instead of tryharding for his 4K.

    LUL you just found with these stats a new toy to troll peoples with .

    As usual, Devs brings sketchy and non clear data to help fitting the survivor mains narrative in the community.

    So killer mains can "shut the hell up and quit winhing "

    Remember this time when they pathetically tried to make peoples believe that SelfCare was only used in 1/4 of the lobby, hence why it didn't need a rework and there are no problems, killers are just crybabies...

    So much disrespect for one part of your community.

    But nothing news, Devs and toxic survivor mains tends to hope that peoples are stupid enough to forget about their behaviors and shenaningans, i'm not even surprised.

  • @SenzuDuck said:

    @Zaram said:
    I wonder if DCs by the killer we're counted as "escaped"

    Killers & Survivors really don't DC that much tbh.

    You used to be more creative when trolling, what happened ?

  • @Wolf74 said:
    Do you guys even remember that the killer FOV got nerfed to "fix" a survivor issue?
    It was meant to be a temporary solution and never got changed again.

    Peperridge's farm remember.

    Devs tend to hope that peoples would be stupid enough to forget this kind of "details", and hide them behind the carpet lul.

    When it only affect killers, of course.

  • @powerbats said:

    Straw Man in a nutshell again.

    The killer isn't entitled to anything ever, neither is the survivor and you keep using entitled when you know for a fact they're not getting a FREE ESCAPE.

    That hatch doesn't guarantee them an escape 100% of the time which means they're not entitled to it.

    The killer didn't have a perfect match because if they had a perfect match not a single gen would be done and thus the hatch wouldn't spawn ever.

    That is in a nutshell is the failure of your entire argument once again, the only entitlements here is you killers wanting that free 4th k and claiming your entitled to it. The other entitlement is from the survivors who want to have a 100% guaranteed escape.

    The only one to blame for a hatch standoff is you as the killer because if you're going to stand there stubbornly going for that 4th kill that's your decision to hold the game hostage not the survivor.

    Because for the amount of time you ego is holding you there you just wasted that time that could be spent in more games earning way more blood points.

    Meanwhile the rest of us want it to be balanced so that both sides have a chance.

    As killers:

    We don't want an easy free 4th kill.
    We realize if we got 3k we've already won the game.
    We realize that the Entity feeds off the survivors hopes of escape and if the hatch wasn't there it couldn't feed.
    We realize that we can be good sports and give the 4th person the hatch if they've played well.
    We realize that there's another human being on the other side that wants to have fun as well.
    We realize that the issue needs to be better balanced but it doesn't have to be all about me me me me and only what benefits me.

    As Survivors:

    We don't want an easy escape, just the chance that we might be able to make it out.
    We realize a hatch standoff can be frustrating but if we've done 2 gens, cleansed totems, or even did more gens/unhooks we shouldn't be screwed over.
    We realize that the Entity feeds of our hopes and when we make a hatch play and fail the Entity feeds off our hope and despair.
    We realize that killer wants to kill us most of the time but we're also not giving you a free kill just because you want a free kill.
    We realize that there needs to be an improvement that benefits both sides and not just our side.

    So both sides need to seriously stop with the entitlement victim mentality here, it's embarrassing.

    TLDR:

    'Don't be so stubborn/ mean/ tryhard, do you really NEED to kill them ?"

    Why is the killer the stubborn one in this case ?

    "B...because he can hurt us while the opposite is impossible, mean ! >:'o"

    Is the usual answer AKA no legit answer.

    I'm not gonna bother answering this anymore, too much non-sense and entitlement, it's even creepy at this point.

  • A Outlast like asylum's backyard would be pretty neat for Lery and Crotus Prenn, i agree

  • @Attackfrog said:

    Oh that's what happened! That makes sense. And now they eat ostriches to celebrate.

    Now, I do believe they will eat kangaroos for Easter (since kangaroos are simply Australian rabbits, no?).

    Correct me if I am wrong, but I do know science and history quite good.

    And English, cleerly.

    World's History is really amazing, the same thing hapened in Japan, a long time ago :

  • I heard they're still waiting for the Clown's release.

    What kind of company let situation like this rotting for months ?

  • @BigBadPiggy said:

    He's a hacker on youtube who uses wall hacks and other garbage like that. He got called out by N00b3 when the devs did that ban train for no reason. Zekeo has videos of himself hacking and calling the devs ######### in DBD and he wasn't banned when tons of legit people were.

    Who ?

  • @DocOctober said:
    Pallet looping is just one thing: extremely cheap

    It's low risk, high reward and just boring to play against and borderline cheating if you ask me as it abuses collision box differences to diminish the Killer's speed advantage.

    ^^^
    This.

  • @Rebel_Raven said:

    The killer can back up off the hatch then suddenly move forward and grab the survivor as they try to enter.

    That doesn't work with competent players on both side, peoples would certainly try this at low rank for sure.

    I'm, of course talking about middle to high rank.
    The rank 20 to rank 10 bracket shouldn't be took into account balance wise, since they're theorically still learning the in and out of the game.

    You again described a hatch standoff with others words, that's smell like a bait at this point.

    The survivor can run off and finish gens scoring big points, and if it goes on enough, screw the killer hard as the killer has to guard both gates and the hatch. The survivor can circle around and see if the killer is still at the hatch and hop in if not.

    On that one i can agree, but we both know that nearly no one will do it.
    I'm also for finding a new way to end the match quickly, so everyone can start a new match as soon as possible.

    It just need to be fair for both side.

    Wich isn't at the moment.

    Personally, i think that the first who get to it should have it.

    The killer by closing it.
    The survivor by jumping in.

    Increase the BP gain for escaping with it, to counter balance the fact that it will be "harder" to take it, if it can help survivors to swallow this pill.

    You got any ideas that don't boil down to "hurr durr, the last guy is screwed! I'm entitled to that kill!"

    Repeating this over and over just make you look salty, and entitled for a hatch escape.

    Other things to say than :

    "Huur duur 3 kills is enought don't be so mean and sweaty "

    ?

  • Thanks to Samination for this new piece of art :

  • @samination

    Thanks a lot for this piece of art :

  • @Rebel_Raven said:

    At this point it's mind games over the hatch.

    Give me an example.

    Because when asked for it before, you answered by describing an hatch standoff.

    There's no mindgames in this situation, only the most stubborn win.

  • @Rebel_Raven said:

    HEY! Guess what happens after that scene?! She tries to jump in, gets GRABBED and carried off to get hooked!! Reality sinks in!
    Do that! It's an actual game mechanic!

    Making you swing is exactly what they want. You don't have to swing, though.
    fake out the survivor and make them think they have enough space to leave, then grab'em!

    No one is forcing you to give up when you screw up as a killer, and open the hatch, or when someone takes the bullet to let someone get the hatch.
    It's not like the game paralyzes the killer once the hatch opens.

    Thanks for describing an hatch stand off.

    It's cancerous, it shouldn't happen, it has to go.

    The survivor entitlement is showing.

  • @Malakir said:

    Yeah then if you wish I could do that same. I'll take a dumb comment of yours apply it here. I think would be fun ^^

    You sound salty.

    Can't figure why tho.

  • @Dreamnomad said:

    I look at it a little differently though. The skins aren't for the casual player.

    Stoped reading here.

    I mean ######### ?

    How is this even an argument ?

    Like said above, Devs are blinded by greed since the release of their store, and it will only stop when there will be no cucks left willing to pay DOUBLE a DLC's price for a set of 3 skin.

    Why would they stop at the moment ? It work like a charm.

  • @Michiko said:

    LMFAO 😂 Idk why I'm laughing so hard at this post, maybe because its so true LOL

    It's called a nervous laught.

    Had a lot too since i got the game :p

  • @Malakir

    @ChesterTheMolester said:

    And we weren't shaming Bats for his opinion, we called out and made fun of his dishonesty, its clear that he bets on people being to lazy or stupid to realize that he lies.

    Print this in your mind, it will help you to take things in perspective while speaking in this forum.

    It apply to a lot of peoples down here sadly.

  • @ChesterTheMolester

    Thanks, i was too lazy to screen it.

    The link is above for the complete experience.

  • @DocOctober said:
    Let me rephrase the question: you say that I'm not entitled to the 4th kill, but why should I be the one to forfeit the game and let the Survivor escape? That comes awfully close to the Survivor being entitled to a Hatch escape even if you didn't say it directly.

    They won't say it because even them know how ridiculous it sound.

    They will still defend it in the most disingenious ways, as usual.

    As said in another thread, if you summarize most of their "arguments" all you get is :

    "Why so rude ? Let him win, don't be so mean you freakin' try-hard ! Do you really NEED to kill everyone ?"

    Kids shouldn't have a say balance wise.

    Brace yourself for the incoming wave of LOLs on your logical posts ahah.

  • @powerbats said:

    Oh yes the logical fallacies fail you yet again, I didn't forget it since it'd already been addressed but you totally ignored my point because it negated yours.

    Also I'm a killer main currently so again epic fail on your part, but you keep on throwing out nonsense to try and discredit me.

    ...Or peoples could read by themselves and make their own opinion :

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/18218/man-for-people-thinking-freddy-is-bad/p1

    To keep things in perspective when talking with you about balance.

    @Malakir

    I'm gonna stop now, but i disagree with you on one thing : It totally is on the topic.

    Like Tsulan explained, this mindset allowed to keep Infinites 8 months before being finally fixed.

    The pallet vaccum took them 2 years.

    Cancerous meta and sketchy mechanics like the Hatch still not fixed.

    No debuff of any kind for SWF. While they get some aura perks for free and the possibility of insane coordinations. Basically the peoples harshly defending the actual state of it want the advantages without a bit of drawback to balance it.

    The list goes on.

  • @Tsulan said:

    Don't forget the people that opened threads about Freddy being good and that he doesn't need a rework. 

    Yeah I'm kinda pessimistic about killer buffs.

    No worries he didn't forgot it.

    He was actively siding with this lobby in this exact thread.

    You shouldn't forget.

  • @Tsulan said:

    No, instead of serving the 4th kill on a silver platter, we serve the escape on a silver platter, and even award more points. 

    Killer did everything right. He applied pressure, he caught everyone, but the last one gets the escape and writes "gg ez", while he totals 11k points. 

    Yes, truly a deserved victory for that survivor. 

    Mortal kombat: one player is about to get a perfect win... naaa, let's call it a draw.

    CoD: one team completely destroyed the other team... but little timmy from the losing team still gets his match won screen. With his k/d ratio of 0/30...

    They know no worries.

    They will just disingenuously pretend they don't understand.

    In order to keep their usual unfair advantages.

    Doesn't matter which subject, when you read their "arguments" You can nearly ALWAYS summarize them by :

    "Why so rude ? Let him win, don't be so mean you freakin' try-hard ! Do you really NEED to kill everyone ?"

    See how ridiculous it look ?

    They still get away with it since release sadly.

  • Didn't knew they encountered the Trapper at some points in the Walking Dead Comics ahah.

    Good job !

  • New Samination's parody incoming yeaaaaaaaaah !!!

  • @Nickenzie said:
    BigBubs said:

    Oh ok , nothing interesting here.

    Just like you when you don't tell me WHY you disagree or agree with something. I can't understand your point of view if you're always being vague with me.

    Don't bother with this low quality bait.

  • @Peanits

    I'm simply gonna copy/paste what i already said in another thread :

    So the meme changed from "4 man SWF aren't that common" to "4 man SWF aren't that hard to beat".

    Now promoted by mod ?

    Can someone explain to me how peoples can say to paying customers :

    "We know it's unfair... so what ? We have fun with it.
    Deal with it or move on, removing it would kill the game huur huur"

  • After some kilometers i finally got it ahah.

    One less thing to think about lol

    I don't congratulate them for the waiting and the shipping which were atrocious.

    The mask and the poster are awesome at least.

  • @Raccoon

    Maybe hide their names next time, that would make one less reason to nitpick for closing the thread.

    For what it cost.

  • @RSB said:
    Only if you make the swivel hooks not only swivel for survivors, hypocrites.

    Oh, what's this? Bodyblocking is so much fun, tactical "outsmarting the killer"? That's sad.

    @Master said:

    Just ignore 1-post guys who start with "I main both". Its always the same story

    "You say that because you have no friends huuur duuur"

  • From Generator Jack's video memes.

  • @SenzuDuck said:

    @Giche said:

    The mental gymnastic there is golden.

    Yea, I'm really trying to struggle to understand what you're talking about, talk about a brain workout.

    Keep going.

  • @SenzuDuck said:

    @Giche said:

    Or you've realised how stupid it looks to imply these statements can't be made separately and both still be true.

    The mental gymnastic there is golden.

  • @SenzuDuck said:

    @Giche said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    You'll get better, just practice - 4-man swf isn't as hard as the forums would lead you to believe, they're entirely beatable, especially now.

    So the meme changed from "4 man SWF aren't that common" to "4 man SWF aren't that hard to beat".

    The bar keep getting lowered each day lmao.

    Both of these thing are exclusive, I don't think you truly understand what you're saying.

    They are still uncommon.
    They are still easy to beat.

    I've always said both of these statements.

  • @friendlykillermain said:

    why cant the killer have even a chance for a 4k the end game is so survivor sided its ridiculous not all survivors are entitled to an escape

    " You don't get it : WE are entitled to a 4 mans escape
    WE are the Heroes of this story.

    You filthy killer main ! "

  • This thread in a nutshell ahah :

  • @Attackfrog said:
    It's all perspective.

    If they said "gg" or "wp", then you truly failed.

    But they wish you to die or get cancer or any other terrible ailments! That means you did it! You won!

    You, as a killer, in a digital (fake) world, caused another human being who is playing the same game as you, so much distress, that they wished the worst their feeble minds could conjure upon you! What greater feeling is there!?

    If this bothers you, perhaps you should play survivor. Otherwise, keep it up, killer!

    Yup, it's good to keep in mind that we all mostly face, and kill this :

    It also help to put things into perspective.

  • @SenzuDuck said:

    You'll get better, just practice - 4-man swf isn't as hard as the forums would lead you to believe, they're entirely beatable, especially now.

    So the meme changed from "4 man SWF aren't that common" to "4 man SWF aren't that hard to beat".

    The bar keep getting lowered each day lmao.

  • @SpaceCoconut said:
    27:15 is relevant to this discussion.
    https://youtu.be/IOFLUvAJAJ4

    Some local Ochidolings will say that it's totally fair and a good punition for try-hard of your kind.

  • Done this gif few days ago.

    Thought it would be cool to share it.

  • So like said above, these morons still shipped it to the wrong adress.

    I signaled it months ago, and even sended a mail 1 week ago to make sure that they took it into account.

    No answer.

    Then the confirmation that they still shipped it.

    After some research, i now have to keep track of it as much as possible, and when it finally arrives, i have to quickly go to my old city (100 km from where i live) and try to intercept it.

    Thanks again BHVR and Games Legends, really.

    You are able to troll peoples without even realizing it, that's something lul.

    That was the last thing i buy from you (good thing you can now grind for DLC ).

    I will stop now or i will end banned.

  • @Peasant said:

    Oh sure get rid of even more survivors. After all, they only need to make up 80% of the player base for quick lobbies. /s

    I prefer waiting more to have a good match against decent peoples than getting instant lobby full of entitled toxic brats.

    Quality over quantity.

  • @Spicybarbecue said:
    I mean if you are using noed you DON'T have any skill.
    same with ds
    same with nurse
    these are things bad players need to win games for them.

    You're right.

    Real legitimate gamers goes to rank 1 with Freddy without using his power.

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